Nehalem - Core i7/i5, etc...

[W1nTry]

Intel fanboys rejoice, for Intel hath cometh down from the mountain bearing Nehalem and the silicone gods said, it was good:

Final Words

First keep in mind that these performance numbers are early, and they were run on a partly crippled, very early platform. With that preface, the fact that Nehalem is still able to post these 20 - 50% performance gains says only one thing about Intel's tick-tock cadence: they did it.

We've been told to expect a 20 - 30% overall advantage over Penryn and it looks like Intel is on track to delivering just that in Q4. At 2.66GHz, Nehalem is already faster than the fastest 3.2GHz Penryns on the market today. At 3.2GHz, I'd feel comfortable calling it baby Skulltrail in all but the most heavily threaded benchmarks. This thing is fast and this is on a very early platform, keep in mind that Nehalem doesn't launch until Q4 of this year.

Over six years ago I had dinner with Intel's Pat Gelsinger (back when he was Intel's CTO), and I asked him the same question I always do: "what are you excited about?" Back then his response was "threading", Intel was about to launch Hyper Threading and Pat was convinced that it was absolutely necessary for the future of microprocessors.

It was at the same dinner that Pat mentioned Intel may do a chip with an integrated memory controller much like AMD, but that an IMC wouldn't solve the problem of idle execution units - only indirectly mitigate it. With Nehalem, Intel managed to combine both - and it only took 6 years to pull it off.

Pat also brought up another very good point at that dinner. He turned to me and said that you can only integrate a memory controller once, what do you do next to improve performance? Intel has managed to keep increasing performance, but what I really want to see is what happens at the next tock. Intel proved its ability with Conroe and with Nehalem it shows that the tick-tock model can work, but more than anything looking at Nehalem today makes me excited at what Sandy Bridge will bring.

The fact that we're able to see these sorts of performance improvements despite being faced with a dormant AMD says a lot. In many ways Intel is doing more to improve performance today than when AMD was on top during the Pentium 4 days.

AMD never really caught up to the performance of Conroe, through some aggressive pricing we got competition in the low end but it could never touch the upper echelon of Core 2 performance. With Penryn, Intel widened the gap. And now with Nehalem it's going to be even tougher to envision a competitive high-end AMD CPU at the end of this year. 2009 should hold a new architecture for AMD, which is the only thing that could possibly come close to achieving competition here. It's months before Nehalem's launch and there's already no equal in sight, it will take far more than Phenom to make this thing sweat.

Read in all its glory from the start: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3326&p=1

[Crixx_Creww]

*sigh*

everything ive been saying for years

they charge the appropriate amount of money, to fund research and development to make the best product for their customers.

Amd is suffering cause of their own cheapness

[TrinithereturnofGamez]

 Waiting for this to release before i upgrade my CPU or buy more RAM...

Looks like intel will maintain their lead in performance  , and have started taking back innovation , one of the new features of the Nehalem is that each CPU core can automatically overclock itself...
 
 It is designed so that even if an application can only use say , 2 threads, the CPU core that is being used can overclock to increase performance for that application.
   Combined with hyperthreading , Nehalem will be a monster in both highly threaded and single threaded apps.

[W1nTry]

You guys are both wrong in one respect or another. First @ Crixx, AMD isn´t cheap, in fact they themselves have been spending all of the profits (limited now) on furthering their business from a technical standpoint, hence they can ACTUALLY COMPETE with a FULL platform now. Their merger with ATI wasn´t CHEAP so that cheap shot was uncalled for.

At trinithen00b, dude even BARCELONA aka Phenom can clock each core independently so that isn´t anything ´innovative or new´ in fact Phenom has better power arbitration than Core 2, this is well known. And what separates Nehalem from Core 2 is really the CSI or ON DIE MEMORY CONTROLLER which AMD has had since HAMMER or 754 socket.

I think Nehalem is GREAT, the performance increase for bringing the mem controller on die is fantastic and it´s the next step. HOWEVER what I shake my head at is what ur praising. If you gonna praise Intel at least do it for the RIGHT THINGS DAMNIT. The article I linked from the start says all the things new and/old and what AMD has done in contrast. Nehalem is CORE 2 with an ON DIE MEM controller and a few tweaks. The bulk of performance comes from CSI NOT the core logic itself as it IS CORE 2.

[Prowl]

Drools

I'm saving my pennies from now

[Arcmanov]

People are free to praise what they like.  Don't like it?  Tough.

Anyway, check out some early CPU comparisons between Nehalem and current CPUs.
Quite impressive for such 'young' silicon.

As for upgrades.....next year for that, or maybe year-end, once the price is right.

[Prowl]

hummmmm $150 q6600's and $200 9450's anyone,

lol @ trinireturnoob hahaha good one winny

[Crixx_Creww]

aye look prowl face yes
long time mengz

[Philosophical45]

hummmmm $150 q6600's and $200 9450's anyone,

lol @ trinireturnoob hahaha good one winny

i'll take the $200 dollar 9450's and a side order of a $219 dollar 780i sli board thank you... 

[Captain Awesome]

$200 for a 9450's would be reallly good.

[Prowl]

780? ewwww nvidia chipsets suck monkey balls sorry man.

here have a X48 instead

[Arcmanov]

I'm forced to agree with Prowl.  Those new Nforce chipsets only make sense if you are dead-set
on putting together a SLI rig.  Other than that, P35/45 and X38/48 fo tha muthaf@#kin WIN!!!

[Philosophical45]

DETAILS AND PICS IN LINK BELOW................

http://www.techpowerup.com/73557/Core_i7_965_XE_Races_Through_to_4.20_GHz.html

[Kraeoss]

unless they can get the oc voltage down that chip will have a very low life.... 1.7 v! well hopefully that will be rectified by the mainstream release... hopefully

[W1nTry]

See the translated review:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://hardware.mydrivers.com/2/118/118851.htm

And just a small snippet of the hardware specs:

The following is our summary of some of the characteristics of Nehalem.

1. Based on the Intel Core microarchitecture
2. The core of stars 2-8.
3. Built-in three-channel DDR3 memory controller.
4. The core of each exclusive 256KB secondary cache.
5. 8 MB cache shared three.
6. SSE 4.2 instruction set (a total of seven new instructions).
7. Hyper-Threading Technology.
8. Turbo mode (automatic overclocking).
9. Optimized micro-architecture (to support 64-bit mode of macro integration, improve the data flow ring monitor performance data on the launch of the six ports, etc.)
10. Pre-contracting unit to enhance performance, increase in the second branch of the cache sight.
11. The second group of 512 road TLB.
12. For the whole of the non-SSE instructions to enhance performance.
13. Enhance the performance of virtual machine (based on the Intel official data showed, Nehalem relatively 65nm Core 2 in the virtual two-way potential at 60% of the upgrade, and the relative 45nm Core 2 products increased 20%)
14. QPI new bus.
15. New energy management unit.
16. 45nm process, 32nm process, followed by product line, code-named Westmere.
17. New 1366-pin interface.

Nehalem has the equivalent of 65nm products following the most important new features.

1. SSE4.1 instruction set (47 new SSE instructions).
2. Deep sleep technology (C6-level sleep only in the mobile chip).
3. Enhanced Intel Dynamic Acceleration Technology (only in the mobile chip).
4. Fast Radix-16 divider and Super Shuffle engine, to enhance performance FPU
5. Enhanced virtual technology, virtual machine interaction between the performance of 25% -75%.

[Captain Awesome]

Time to change that sig, W1n. Really not so safe for work.

[Kraeoss]

indeed... yea men cyah tune in to ur stuff and let their superiors see ass in their faces lol

[Philosophical45]

CORE i7''s FOR SALE:

check link ---> http://www.gamepc.com/shop/category.asp?catalog_name=GamePC+Online+Products&category_name=CPU&Page=1&cookie_test=1

so who selling their kidney to get one of these..lolz

[Arcmanov]

Ha...they will keep dat...

[Philosophical45]

Ha...they will keep dat...

ent, dat is mc ridiculous... but i see the site kinda goes overboard with prices, so newegg will give a better idea of real retail prices. but FCK!!! dem tings XXXPENSEEEEEVVVV