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Gaming => Clan Announcements and Challenges => Topic started by: New Era Outlaw on April 29, 2007, 09:39:45 AM
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Game: Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Venue: Playmax, Chaguanas
Time: 11:00 AM onwards
A'ight, youse mugs. Listen up.
I'm heading down to Chaguanas to do battle with whiplash, because I want some ACK-SHUN!!
And, as such, I'm inviting anybody here to head down and join in the royal pwnage.
If Marvel vs. Capcom 1 is there, also, I'll also be playing that.
So, head down there and get your game on!
ORIGINAL POST:
Well, truth be told, this was just something between me and Shin Ultima, but, seeing as how rb wants a piece of the action and there's a chance that Imperial X might show up, I might as well take a shot.
We are having a Marvel vs. Capcom 2 sweat today at the JAVA Internet Cafe, at around 12 noon.
There's no charge, so anybody who is interested in popping by can jump in.
Just remember, though...as a friend of mine said before, man has a mouth for a reason, so if you didn't speak up about wanting a turn, don't come bawling later on about us hogging the controllers. I, for one, would be happy to pass up the control when my turn is up, although, during the 'war' between me and Shin Ultima, it'd be between me and him, so, just a little heads up.
This is just a little something I'm doing to drum up some attention for the tournament, the announcement of which will come later this week (it was supposed to be last week, but my hands were tied up bad this weekend.)
Also, I'm considering scheduling the next sweat at Kronix in Arima.
For those of you who don't know where that is, it's upstairs Palms Plaza, opposite Hoi Kam and next door to the Chinese Wok. More on that later.
Well, the last time I faced off against Shin Ultima, he royally whipped me into oblivion.
I've improved on myself since then, so here's hoping for the best.
Sweat Report later.
Until then.....ROCK BUSTER!!
:roll:
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We are having a Marvel vs. Capcom 2 sweat today at the JAVA Internet Cafe, at around 12 noon.
Also, I'm considering scheduling the next sweat at Kronix in Arima.
For those of you who don't know where that is, it's upstairs Palms Plaza, opposite Hoi Kam and next door to the Chinese Wok. More on that later.
NEO.. next time you give a place's location... please put the full address!! and a phone number!!!
I honestly do not know where Palms Plaza is...
I drive up the EMR from Arouca to San Juan looking for the place after meeting SPK. I really wanted to take a crack at MvC2 though I'd have probably been pwned with Dhalsim, Zangief and Anubis
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LOL , java is at campus house st augustine.
expect a rant about java later on.
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they still at campus house? i thought they had move up the road??
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NEO.. next time you give a place's location... please put the full address!! and a phone number!!!
I honestly do not know where Palms Plaza is...
I drive up the EMR from Arouca to San Juan looking for the place after meeting SPK. I really wanted to take a crack at MvC2 though I'd have probably been pwned with Dhalsim, Zangief and Anubis
Damn.....sorry about that.
That's actually the address for Kronix in Arima, which will be the location of the next sweat in May.
I had assumed that everybody knew where JAVA was by now, so I didn't put an address.
Again, my sincerest apologies. The next time I announce a sweat, I'll be sure to put the correct address of the place.
LOL , java is at campus house st augustine.
expect a rant about java later on.
And how. (http://gatt.carigamers.com/index.php/topic,11076.new.html#new) <== Click for RANT.
Anyhoo, without further ado....
SWEAT REPORT
GAME: MARVEL VS. CAPCOM 2
VENUE: JAVA GAMING, CAMPUS HOUSE, ST. AUGUSTINE
DAMAGE: FREE
In Attendance: Rb, Shin Ultima, RedEyesDragon, NewEraOutlaw (that's me)
BEFORE THE TOURNAMENT
A while ago, I had challenged Shin Ultima to a few matches in Marvel vs. Capcom 2, scheduled for the 29th April, 2007. What truly motivated me to do so was, of course, the DOTA All-Stars Challenge Console War held at JAVA a while ago. So, we made arrangements and decided to have a sweat in this game. When I told rb about it, he definitely wanted in to test himself in this game, so I told him he was welcome to do so. (On a side note, this sweat was also done to do a little promotion for the upcoming Marvel vs. Capcom 2 tournament, which will be announced by me this Saturday.)
As I made my way to JAVA, I thought I should bring something to the table.
So I thought, "Green Sands! EVERYBODY LOVES GREEN SANDS! Yay merrily, how we shall divulge in the 1.2% alcoholic plasure."
So, I went to get some Green Sands.
Unfortunately, every place I went to that morning had run out of Green Sands.
A tragedy, you say? Damn right it was. It as probably even more of a tragedy than Operation Anaconda, I kid you not.
But then. I happened to un across this beer garden. And it was open. And I felt several different shades of happy......IN MY PANTS.
....okay, now that we got that blatant Harvey Birdman reference out of the way, let's just get on with it, shall we?
So, I bought like about 10 Green Sands at about a KER-JILLION DOLLARS a bottle.
...okay, so it was actually NINE. But hey, nine, ker-jillion, what's the difference?
But I wasn't in a position to complain. I got my Green Sands, and bolted.
So, I left at around 12:15pm. I told Shin Ultima and rb I'd be there around 1, so I figured that I'd have some time to kill before they came. Perhaps even look around a bit for the place that I had intended to use as my tournament site.
Now....I'm going to just do you guys a small favour and leave out what happened between when I got there, and when the sweat actually got to happen. Long story short, I was severely pissed at what I had to come to, and if I could just get a hold of the person responsible (or irresponsible, I should say) for that level of CRAP, there'd be neatly decorated entrails all over the place. But, I'm going to save that for the rant, the link of which you'll find right here. (http://gatt.carigamers.com/index.php/topic,11076.new.html#new)
THE SWEAT
The sweat finally went underway.
Now, at the time, I was a bit busy (you'll know with what exactly later), so it was rb vs. Shin Ultima.
Basically, the two went at it using the God Tier characters, in particular, MSP, and swapping and discussing strategies with them. I'd have to say, though, that Ultima has some serious mastery of Sentinel's flight manuevers, and it can be a royal pain in the a**, sometimes, I kid you not. I swear, you only drop your guard for a minute, and Sentinel will stomp you so hard, that pygmies and midgets will start givin you the evil eye. rb seemed to have learned some new tricks with Magneto, namely the Slide XX Hyper Grav XX Magnetic Tempest. However, SU beat him 2-0.
I took my turn afterwards.
I swear to God, it was a severely uphill struggle for me. In 11 matches, I only eked out 2 wins. I swear to God, Sentinel was stomping holes in me like the Plymouth Festival did to Diana Ross, and I admit, it did throw me off a good few times. Some of the characters I toyed around with were the usual gang (Mega Man, Roll and Tron Bonne, although I only used them twice as a team), Omega Red, Blackheart and Silver Samurai. I'd like to go on record as saying that Magneto is one annoying triangle jumper. Not even MM's Donkey Kick could repel it fast enough. Surprisingly, though, Roll actually gave SU's Magneto some degree of trouble.....because of her small size, some of the moves actually missed her, and her double jump did save her from certain death a couple of times.:roll:
Next up, it was rb vs. SU again. He again engaged him in a battle of MSP (and sometimes Cable) vs. MSP. I think, in one word, those battles were chaos in a can, because there were Assists flying here, there, and everywhere. Rb managed to win 1 off of him-
"Yes! I got ONE!"
"Yeah....now try to beat my record of TWO." :P
...and then, it was me vs. rb. Rb seemed to have mastered the fine art of backing off, especially with Storm and Magneto, who was driving me up a wall with their meter raising madness. Rb also pulled off some very impressive combos against me with Magneto, using his slide and comboing it off of Hyper Grav and Magnetic Tempest, before rinsing and repeating. At one time, during our fights, I used what I deemed, "Viva la Garbage!", using Dan, Roll and Servbot. :kobun: Yes, they lost (damn Storm and her flying SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEET.) I was a bit amazed at how just well Dan is just flying in with his Uppercut Assist and knocking Magneto senseless, so I used him in a couple of rounds and actually won. Well, how about that.
I won the majority of those matches, but I'd be damned if rb didn't make me earn them this time.
RedEyesDragon also stopped by- and got subsequently creamed. But damn if he wasn't amusing as he was doing so:
"OH GOD!! PLEASE BE ALIVE! LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!!!!"
Still, it was good that he stopped by. Speaking of which, that reminds me that I've got to challenge him in MKA.
He took me for quite a ride the last time.
Afterwards, the guys engaged in games such as 'Fist of the North Star' (a series of matches between rb and SU, which rb won the majority of the time) and 'Guilty Gear XX Slash' (Shin Ultima is just deadly with Potemkin.) Lord knows I can't understand GGXXS at times, seeing as how so much goes on on the screen (Ironic coming from a Marvel player, ain't it?), but, to each his own.
RESULT
I'd have to say, without a doubt, that Shin Ultima ruled this sweat. It pretty much goes without saying, but this guy knows his game. As rb put it, it is definitely going to be a rather interesting tournament this July.
As to how I'd actually rate this sweat, though, I'd say it was pretty much so-so. It was good that the sweat went ahead as scheduled, and all involved were present and accounted for, but bad in terms of what greeted us as we arrived in JAVA.
So, all in all, the sweat was okay. It has me looking forward to the next one at Kronix. My apologies to those who were misled the last time...the next time, I'll put proper directions.
Be on the lookout for the announcement of the tournament, which is this Saturday, as well as the announcement for the next sweat, which will be at Kronix.
This is the New Era Outlaw, over and out (of Green Sands). =(
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Couple notes:
With the exception of maybe one, I lost all the matches at Fist of the Northstar. That's what happens when you play a game for the first time and don't even know the moves, or even what the buttons really do. I think I won one match with Broki, er, Toki. I found his teleport and his launcher and just sorta spammed that and hit buttons. But I really had no clue what I was doing.
I did better at Slash than I was expecting, since I had never played Slash before (only plain XX). Maybe it's because I didn't play Sol, who's been severely de-scrubbified since XX. Pochop's relatively unchanged from game to game, so it wasn't too difficult to do some stuff.
My knowledge of Marvel has been greatly exaggerated. Marvel's skill scale is so vast now, that players like us barely qualify as "beginner", I'm afraid. :(
Also, NEO would win a lot more matches against me if he played better characters. It's not because of lack of skill. There is no dishonour in getting stomped down by Sentinel when you're playing the likes of Amingo, Roll, and Silver Samurai - Sentinel stomps down on everybody, even the good characters, far less the weaker ones who can't do anything about it. :/
Storm is a similar case. There are too many characters who simply can't hit her if she decides to run. If NEO fought against my old roommate with those teams, he would probably have driven NEO to commit murder since my roommate would just runaway for 95 seconds with Storm (which is a lot harder than it seems; I tried it once or twice and it's exhausting, which is why I don't play Storm), and he wouldn't have been able to hit him. :|
rb, on the other hand, plays better characters, and if he gets his execution down with the ROM infinite with Mags I'll pretty much get left behind in a hurry, but he rushes in blindly too much at the moment. Way too much running into assists. Needs to be more aware of what part of the screen is safe to attack from and what isn't (this comes with practice). Also needs more runaway with Storm. :p
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controlling space was never one of my strong points :P, my execution was off for the most part, especially on cr lk cr hk hyper grav i normally never miss that stuff :(
I'm gonna look into the runaway thing. Downloaded a good bit of vids with Justin's storm gonna study them when I get the chance, runaway isn't my thing as I do wanna get my MSP to at least within a faded shadow of Yipes' rushdown style. Don't think I'll ever really use sentinel until someone can show me how that damn fly unfly works while executing it right in front of me.
I'm gonna try to actually play some more vs human comp but it's hard as time rarely permits for it, but i'll what can happen.
I still think Cable is one of my stronger characters even though I've only been using him for a little under 2 months. AHVB rules
it was fun seeing Ultima get all giddy when saying RAAAOOOOOH, for some reason i was expecting him to sing YOU WA SHOCK.
OH I forgot to say this, to the cowards who wanna duck N.E.O's tourney because of a little top tier action. Go learn the effin game. Top Tiers aren't the easiest of characters to learn, even scrub friendly cable has a learning curve with the other top characters being considerably more difficult to use. As I told Ultima, I only use MSP because I love Magneto's rushdown and overall gameplan, its a bitch to do, but the effort put into learning it is damn well worth it when you own someone.
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Here, here.
In all honesty, though, after this tournament, I am going to be holding another one, but in the Low-Tier format.
Truth be told.....I want to see if people actually have the gonads to do without the God-tiers for a change, and see if they'll adjust and pick up some of the other characters, instead. In all honesty, seing Mags and Sentinel all of the time without a true change in pace is getting beyond tedious. Just like in Yu-Gi-Oh!, it'd be interesting to see who'd take up the challenge and alter their strategies to suit, and those who really can't do without their precious (and remarkably cheesy) God tiers.
On the flip side, though, I was disappointed to hear some people chickening out because of the presence of God Tiers. To me, it's just another challenge to overcome, despite their ridiculous priority and advantage (and, in some cases, running ability). This tournament will be interesting, no doubt about that, but if there's one thing that I personally want to see, if who is going to be truly flexible enough to fight against God Tiers, and, on the flip side, come up with alternate strategies when Gods are forbidden to meddle in the affairs of men.
After all, Justin Wong took up that challenge, and, from what I understand, he kicks ass either way. Popular rumour has it that he even whooped a lot of ass with nothing but garbage tiers.
One thing's for certain, either way, I'm going in both formats head first. To me, this should never be a game about 'who has better characters', (although that is a rather sad fact about Traditional Format), but rather, it should become 'who can whip behind with what they've got, regardless.'
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It should be noted that Justin Wong is on a completely different level at MvC2. There have been instances were certain players just "click" with certain games better than everyone else, and nowhere is that more expressed than MvC2 and Wong. Before MvC2, Wong was just Fat Asian Kid #745 in Chinatown Fair. I've beaten him in MvC1. Aside from maybe the very first CTF tournament, Wong has every single MvC2 tournament he has ever been in, with the exception of Evo2K5. Maybe he came second in some random small tournament once, but I'm not sure. I'm definitely sure Evo2K5 was his only major one where he didn't come first.
Anyway, against 98% of the competition, Wong can beat down people with the likes of Team Interpol (Cammy, Guile, Charlie). I think he also plays Marrow. This isn't limited to him - the random schmoes in CTF, for example, could probably beat all our asses with random characters. But Wong beats all of them with random characters as well, cause he's simply that much better than they are. That's the main issue with lower tier characters - you generally only win with them when you're that much better than the competition. When you face players much closer to your level, using weak characters is only putting yourself at a needless disadvantage. That's straight up stupid, especially if there's money on the line. And playing with weak characters and losing proves nothing, since any idiot can do that.
That said, I'm a firm believer in playing characters you like. I play a lot of Mags/Sentinel because Mags and Sentinel are my favourite characters to play. They were my favourite characters to play before everyone realised how stupidly good they are. I've been forced to not use Juggernaut much anymore since he dies to too much nonsense, but I'm fortunate in that I still have Mags/Sent to do stuff with, plus I can throw in a few others that I like into the mix and still get good results, like Tronne, BBHood and Commando. I do have a team that I use that I can barely stand to play - Doom/Blackheart/Sentinel - but I seldom use it.
There are levels of "seriousness" to a fighter when it comes to winning. That is, how serious are you about what it takes to win? Say your favourite character is not top tier and you don't win much. You have three choices about what to do about it:
1) Get more skillful. Practice your character so that your skill level + your weaker character is more than sufficient to overcome the opponent's skill level + better character. I did this in good old SF2 Turbo, which is why I can beat about 90% of the players I come across with Bison, who's the worst character in that game.
2) Pick a better character/team. Sometimes, your favourite characters are so terrible that it's just not possible to overcome the skill gap in a reasonable amount of time, especially if you have players who are on the same level as you, or worse yet, way better than you. So if you're serious about winning, you're going to have to upgrade. I had to do this to an extent for MvC1 and CvS2 (back when I cared about said games), when certain members of my team were just not cutting it, so I swapped them out for better ones. I also did this for MvC2 early on - I developed the aforementioned Doom/BH/Sentinel team specifically to beat one person who was kicking my ass whenever I tried my usual team at the time, Mags/Juggy/Sentinel, though this was more of a counter team thing than picking a "better" team.
3) Quit. This is for when you hate the top tier characters and/or hate how the game plays in general at high level and it playing just makes you sick. It's better to just quit and play something else that you enjoy. I've done this for SFA2 (my very first tournament back in 1998, which swore me off the game forever) and Second Impact (playing any SF3 in CTF will make you quit that game in a hurry).
Of course, many players also choose option 4 - Playing the game and never getting any better at it while continuing to endlessly bitch about how "cheap" the top tiers are. >:\
rb:
MvC2 is all about controlling space. Far more so than its predecessors (which is also why it's the best Vs. game, among other reasons). Even when rushing down seemingly mindlessly with MSP, it's really a very focused form of space control. In my defense, I have a fair knowledge of space control in MvC2 - I just don't have the execution or the knowledge to take advantage of every opportunity. :/
There are people ducking the tournament because of potential top tiers? Sad, but understandable I guess. Not everyone can handle getting stomped down by Sentinel, rushed down by Magneto, hail stormed to death by Storm, or shot up by Cable. :/
(Cable in particular irritates me. He's the main reason why MvC2 is unplayable at the, well I was going to say "intermediate" level, but it's a lot lower than that now. Upper beginner level maybe).
NEO:
I have to warn you: There's a huge slippery slope with a "Low Tier only" tournament. Because even if you ban the Big Four, all that will result in is the next 6 characters (Iron Man, Blackheart, Doom, Strider, Spiral, Cyclops) beating up the rest of the cast almost as badly as Sentinel an Co. I mean, I could run roughshod with Strider/Doom even better in that scenario since I won't have to worry about Storm or Cable frying my entire team at once, and nobody's good enough with Felicia (who was once claimed to be a Strider-Doom killer) for me not to play that team. Ban those 6, and then the next tier - Iceman, Juggernaut, Hulk, etc will take over (Team 100% will be even better in this scenario), etc. So you have to ask yourself, where does it end? How good is too good for Low Tier?
Furthermore, winning in a Low Tier only tournaments doesn't prove anything other than "who's best with crap[pier] characters". It certainly doesn't prove who's "better" at the game, if that is indeed your point, because you're essentially changing the rules of the game by disallowing a huge chunk of the cast and the tactics that they use. It would be like having a football tournament, and only allowing goals scored from headers to count - there are people who could win under those conditions, but you're not winning at "football"; you would be winning at "football where only headers are allowed".
Just some things I thought I'd point out. You're free to run whatever tournament you want. Just make sure you post what is/isn't allowed early o'clock, and don't be surprised if I or someone else brings something that's only slightly less horrible than what the Big Four bastard can do. :p
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Point taken, although, with regards to the low-tier format, it isn't really just the God-tiers that were banned.
You see, just recently, the official T8 tournament in Canada implemented a new Low-Tier format (as a side event) in this game. As can be expected, the God Tiers are banned from playing at all in the tournament, but there were also some restrictions on some of the other characters as well:
Banned Characters:
Magneto
Sentinel
Storm
Cable
Iron Man
War Machine
....I was a bit curious as to why Iron Man, and even War Machine, was banned alongside the God tiers, but some people (I think rb was one of them, not sure) informed me that IM/WM has some seriously easy/cheesy infinites that can be pulled off in gameplay, only trumped by the presence of the God-tiers.
Here is where things start to get a bit interesting, now.
According to the rules with regards to the remaining characters:
"The teams allowed must follow the 4 ratio system and must have 3 characters on them. If you have a team with 4 ratios or less then it is allowed in the tournament. if your team exceeds 4 ratios then it is not allowed."
With that said, several characters were ranked 'Ratio 2' because of their impact on tournament/gameplay, and all of the others were ranked 'Ratio 1'. Here's the list:
Ratio 2 Characters (combinable with Ratio 1 only):
Cyclops
Psylocke
Captain Commando
Cammy
Blackheart
Dr. Doom
Strider
Megaman
Iceman
Omega Red
Rogue
Ratio 1 Characters:
Every other character in the game.
With that said, if you look at the list, teams such as Strider/Doom aren't possible because both are Ratio 2 characters. Even if you toss in a Ratio 1, it would end up being a Ratio 5 team (2+2+1). As such, the format somewhat restricts use of Ratio 2 characters to 1 per team, which means that if you want to fill up the void to make use of 3 characters, you'd have to select one of the lower tiers to do so.
To be honest, I am considering this as a side event (I'm not 100% certain about a full tournament as yet, but I'm going to test the waters at this point in time.) To me, it's a matter of flexibility, really. If anybody wants to step up to the plate and work around these restrictions, they can do so. My reason is to test the mettle of players and see who can work with what little they have.
Now, I know you're not really a Yu-Gi-Oh! player, Ultima, but I think I should point this out.
The card game has suffered a period in time where certain cards were simply dominating the game. Unless you had the money to afford these cards and run a particular type of deck, you had no chance in hell of winning a tournament.
Marvel is somewhat like that. Unless you had a Sentinel, Magneto or Storm in your team, people just didn't take you seriously.
In the case of the card game, Upperdeck (the company that makes the game) eventually decided to outright ban those cards, primarily because they were creating too much of an advantage situation and muscling other decks out of the game. What were people's reactions? Initially, it was very bad. Some people started to cuss and get on, because they could no longer use their God level cards anymore. Some even quit the game. Others, while frustrated with the idea, just adjusted their decks and kept on playing. Those people who stayed behind are having a lot of fun now because there are more original decks out there than simply one deck stomping the bejesus out of everything else.
With that said, you can pretty much say the same for the God tiers. They are extremely BROKEN. Any character that can persistently run for the entire match and win by default is broken. Any character that has insane defense, super armor, and goes into a hard-to-hit fetal position when launched is broken. As such, does anybody really stand a ghost of a chance playing against them unless they play the same characters or the upper-tiers themselves?
Probably Justin Wong, but I'd think the answer was HELL no.
So, the way I see it, people have a couple of choices available to them at this point. They can attempt to play with those barriers in place, and still show people that they have what it takes without insane flying tactics or advantageous unblockable overheads. Or, they can do what several people in the Yu-Gi-Oh game did. They can shirk away, or cuss and scream till their throat runs ragged because they need Magneto to win a game. To me, if you didn't test yourself by playing with the whole cast (or at least as many characters as you can tolerate) to see what strategies you can build with them and only rely on one or two characters to win, then that's just simply weak, if I do say so myself.
Even I have taken time off from playing the Mega Man team to elarn what God tiers are all about, and some of the Uppers as well. I can actually play Gods (excluding Magneto, because he's a God tier that takes some skill to play good), but I don't want to. The last thing I want is for people to think that the only reason I won at all was because I did what everybody else is doing. Me? I strive to be different. I want to be that guy who everybody instantly knows just by my own choices. I may fall flat on my face a billion times in doing so, but I'm certainly not going to make a name for myself by picking characters people think I should be playing. As far as I'm concerned, those people (I don't mean you, Ultima...much respect for you for saying that people should choose what they want) can seriously play in traffic with unpinned hand grenades.
That's basically all I've go to say about that.
In any case, it was a good sweat, and I look forward to facing you again some time.
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re: ratio format
Interesting. I know some folks had been trying to iron out something like this for years, but didn't bother with it.
(BTW, yes, Ironman would have to be banned under such a system, and to a lesser extent War Machine, since they have easiest infinites in the game, and have little trouble beating up the rest of the cast. I'm also surprised Juggernaut and Tronne, and to a lesser xtent, Colossus, aren't in the Ratio 2 list. I also just now noticed that Sprial isn't on the list... is that a typo, or are they insane?).
Most [2D?] fighting game players are traditionally very resistant to any alterations to the games they're familiar with, especially with regard to balance. The main reason for that is that the companies have an extremely hit and miss record when it comes to balancing their games. Capcom's most notorious method of balancing their games is "take out anything that's good, and make every character only able to do the same crappy stuff". Not to mention, the infrastructure just wasn't there for constant tweaking. Yugioh and other card manufacturers are in a much better position, and seem to have a much better track record, at tweaking and balancing their products.
(Though it was hilarious what happened with Sentinel. On paper, Sentinel is a much MUCH worse character than his stupidly good form in X-Men: COTA [Note: besides taking away two of his best moves from that game, he also had the ability to block while flying; Capcom was certain Sentinel was going to absolutely suck, so they sorta overloaded him with useful stuff, though really and truly, the only reason why he's in the Big Four is because of the lack of restrictions on his flight mode).
To be honest, though, most of the time the West is afraid to ban anything because they don't want to get left behind by the Japanese, who traditionally have been much more hesitant to ban stuff. The main example of this is with Crouch-Cancel infinites in Street Fighter Alpha 3 - US learned it, didn't like what it saw and didn't bother to learn it, and just banned it outright. Japan saw it, learned it, incorporated it into their playing. As a result, the first time JPN and US clashed in SFA3, Japan mudhole-stomped them something like 23-2.
Some other things:
- The Big Four in MvC2 aren't broken. They're just better than everyone else. It's not so much that they're too good, just that the rest of the cast is not good enough. The Big Four are not only the best characters, but are among the most fun characters (by people who actually play them) to use, mainly because they have the most options and get to actually play the game more. This is another reason why Low Tier tournaments are strictly side things that no one cares about - not only are you changing the game, you're changing the game into something that a lot of players consider to be less fun than the real game.
Furthermore, and much more important, the variety provided by the Big Four is much greater than any other games. With those 4 characters, and a handful of assists, you can get, what, 12 tournament-winning teams out of them? Add in a few more notable characters from the second tier and number of "really good teams" swells to probably 25 or more.
Also, Storm doesn't win by default necessarily with running. Okay, if you pick rubbish characters, she has a 98% chance of victory. Still, running sufficiently to win with consistently is hard work, especially gainst good characters and against good players. It's not as though it's a skill-less process. None of the Big Four characters can you get by with without being skilled at using them. Cable's a skill-less bastard at lower levels, but at lower levels, there are other sorts of rubbish that one could also get away with, and it means nothing at the higher levels. Cable's actually probably the hardest of the Big Four to win with at high levels, because he has more weaknesses and is more 1-dimensional than the other three.
The whole act of "diminishing" players who use top tier characters is a mistake that too many players make - "Oh, he can't win without top tier" = nonsense. Sure, there are a lot of folks who parrot and repeat what they see, but there are a couple things to note here: 1) If you can't beat random Magneto scrub #761786 with your boss team of X/Y/Z, then you're not as good at the game as you think you are, because you can't claim to be better at a game, where the goal is to win, when you can't prove it by winning. And 2), virtually ALL of the top players will destroy lower players with any random characters. As I said, playing the best characters is really mainly used for when they play each other, since they're on each other's level. When facing weaker players, they can go random select and still win.
Personally, I couldn't give a rat's ass about what "other people" think about me, the tactics/characters I use, etc. I don't care if I'm "known" for being "that guy who plays M.Bison in HF" (which I am) or Magneto scrub #7864 in MvC2 (which I also am) or whatever. All I care about is if I win or if I lose. And technically, I don't even concern myself with that anymore, being semi-retired as I am.
Remember, I'm not telling you who to play with or anything, Just that I noted you were keeping track of the wins, and I was letting you know what the situation is. As I said, I'm a firm believer in sticking to characters you like, but if you're at all concerned with winning more against me, you're pretty much going to have to use option 2 (i.e. pick better characters), cause your current menagerie isn't going to cut it. IF you are concerned with getting more wins, that is. :p
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http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=34747
http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart1.htm
http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart2.htm
http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart3.htm
here are a few links that I've found to be of good use.
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Hah. While the fundamental points in those articles are still true, there is some outdated stuff in them. Like CvS2, much maligned after Evo2K2 because Tokido came in and wrecked everybody with RC-Honda, is now given much more respect and no one who's good at the game thinks anything's really wrong with RC. Not everyone actually likes the game though (me included), but no one who's any good thinks that CvS2 became a worse game because of RC. Also, no one seriously thinks keepaway tactics dominate MvC2 any more.
Sirlin is a real bastard at SFA2. Guy once won an SFA2 tournament by bashing the other guy with nothing but Rose c.MP. You know where he says (paraphrasing) "If you can't stop my 1-dimensional tactic, why should I bother to do something new?"? He practices what he preaches. He fought a guy who was a really good player in general, but didn't have that much experience with SFA2, and especially not against Rose. Thus, even though he picked the best character in the game (Chun-li), he just kept running into c.MP and died. It was hilarious and awful.
BTW, just in case NEO's planning anything soon, I won't be available this weekend. Supposed to be taking the wife and the unofficial adopted nephew to see Spider-man 3 at Cinema 8 in Sunday. I hope to be there a few hours beforehand so [strike]I[strike] the kid can play some games before the movie. Last time we went, I actually ran into the first good Chun-li in HF... shit, ever. He actually *gasp* knew what to do against my Bison, which meant that he read it somewhere, cause there's no way that's common knowledge. I still beat him something like 4-2, but it was a major pain in the ass. I'm actually hoping not to run into him again. I don't need that kind of stress! Give me 192387098 Kens any day, since 99% of the time they suck! ^_^
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And hey, to get a taste of this game is like at the highest levels:
Sanford vs. Justin Wong, East Coast Championship X Finals (Second Set) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4igNUCQfUvM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ehighervoltage%2Enet%2Fmb%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D12181")
Note: Sanford is on the left (Mags/Storm/Psylocke), and Justin is on the right (Mags/Cable/Sentinel).
That was in 2005 I believe. This, along with Evo2K5, are the only tournaments Justin has lost at since MvC2 came out in May of 2000. It should also be noted that he has stopped playing Magneto "seriously", and now his "business team" is Storm/Sentinel/CapCom or Cyclops, probably because of the ass-beating he got at those two tourneys (Jesus Christ at that last round!). Mags is SO random.
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link no work :(
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Link fixed. Sorry. :p
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BTW, just in case NEO's planning anything soon, I won't be available this weekend. Supposed to be taking the wife and the unofficial adopted nephew to see Spider-man 3 at Cinema 8 in Sunday. I hope to be there a few hours beforehand so [strike]I[strike] the kid can play some games before the movie. Last time we went, I actually ran into the first good Chun-li in HF... shit, ever. He actually *gasp* knew what to do against my Bison, which meant that he read it somewhere, cause there's no way that's common knowledge. I still beat him something like 4-2, but it was a major pain in the ass. I'm actually hoping not to run into him again. I don't need that kind of stress! Give me 192387098 Kens any day, since 99% of the time they suck! ^_^
Argh. You know, I meant to up and announce the tournament since two weeks ago, but that damn Major Project for school put it on hold. Now that it's out of the way, I'll have to use this weekend instead. Sorry, folks. =(
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While we're here:
Evo2K6 Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXygZIhyKt0)
Note: The bit at the end, is from a US$6000(!!!) MvC2 money match series (albeit not one bet, basically just a ton of small bets by various people) between Sanford "Santhrax" Kelly (the guy who beat Justin Wong in the vid I posted earlier) and Duc Do, the winner of B5 (Evo's name before it became Evo, also the only one where Wong didn't attend) and Evo2K5. That was only the first match that Sanford won. There were 10 more after that I think, with Sanford winning 7-4.
The geeky asian kid at 4:21 is Justin Wong, BTW. Your undisputed MvC2 world champion. =/
And holy CRAP at the Ryu comeback from Daigo "The Beast" Umehara! That's why they call him THE BEAST!
re: gaming
I should be available this weekend, if there's anything going on. But no promises.
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uh didnt wong win b5 mvc2 ?
I have that somewhere here on a dvd that I downloaded recently.
This weekend I'm supposed to meet Redeyes in Java to play some Melty Blood if anyone is interested.
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Might have been B4 then. Whatever. Whatever the first of the Evo tournies, before it became known as Evo, but after B3*.
BTW, a bit of history: The Evolution tournament series used to be known as the B[N] series. This occurred because there was a tournament in BOston called the Boston Brawl (B2), followed by the Battle By the Bay (B3) in California in the late 90s. This name convention was revived for a major west coast tournament in 2000 I think, and they called it B4 to continue the tradition of the "B" series, though it didn't stand for anything like the first two did. This was followed by B5 in 2001. HOwever, after that, they decided to give it an official name (original code name was !B6, or "Not B6"), so starting in 2002, they started calling it "Evolution".
Melty Blood? Ugh. I saw that in the arcade in CTF. I saw it for about 20 seconds before I lost interest and went to look at something else. >:|
I'd be up for some Slash or maybe MvC2 though. Or hell, I still haven't seen Samurai Shodown Tenka. But if you're having a challenge against someone else, I'll leave that up to you. Send me an e-mail or something.
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rb
what time this weekend
yu know i in that melty blood goodness
its melty blood one on pc right???
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nope is on ps2
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is the tournament still happening ???? been awfully quiet..
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Whoops....sorry about that. I've been awfully busy as of late. Drop me a line this Saturday or so and we'll continue our plans for world domina-(AHEM) I mean, the tournament. Tournaments....yeah.
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So did I miss the tourney? Or has it been postponed?
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Oh.....sorry about that, Ultima. Haven't had much time to check out this neck of the forums lately.
I'm afraid that due to the lack of a venue as well as rb taking ill, the tournament has been postponed.
Mind you, it's not cancelled, we're just looking for another place for the meanwhile.
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wow yesterday was a blast, seems i'm bridging the gap slowly.
damn i suck with sentinel...
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so lets go old school n sweat mvc 1 in trincity mall where ultima can show me the ultimate warmachine combo n i can train again with strider n ryu
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Sure. I'm down with that.
By the way, currently sweating the arcade version (MvC2) down in Curepe.
Man....something is just wrong with Silver Samurai in that version (MK doesn't seem to work in Aerial Raves). It may not seem like much, but that really screws me over sometimes.
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where has it NEO ? j00 must tell meeeee
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The Game Zone. It's in the same building complex as the CD store at Curepe Junction, opposite the gas station.
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Is there any good or great mvc2 players around.Im looking for some challenge.
Me and by friend from the states.Perferably high tier.New age outlaw SOUNDS like he has
skill. And the rest of the ppl here. Hit me back soon.
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New Era Outlaw SOUNDS like he has skill.
Fixed. :)
Anyway. Like I said in the MvC1 thread, I'd be happy to take you on.
When and where would you be available?
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Well ill c wats going on next week then. Since my buddy came from the states for vacation his msp is kinda unstoppable, also his scrub.except for me that is.We are the two current best at playmax especially with mag. We are looking for some real challenge and not 20+ wins. Looking forward to playing u guys.What teams do u guys use?and do u play with snapout inf
Saturday or whenever u free
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well i met Rb this saturday. I only found out it was him after i played him I asked him if he's from Gatt.
Player one had only 5 buttons working so i didn't get a good challenge. He's good with msp. The game should be fixed by this evening so we should have a better challenge next time. Need more people to come though.
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Yeah...rb told me about that.
In any case, how long is your friend from the States staying, whiplash?
I definitely don't want to miss any of that action, for sure.
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he staying till march. he asks when are u guys gonna play us. chaguanas game fix yesterday. its works like a charm.
if u cant beat me then u cant beat him so worry about me first. He has expierence against the boys in chinatown and beat sanford once. no joke. bring some of your friends to. IS there any big tournaments comming up soon with mvc2 or tekken?
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Hm.....lots of time, then.
I'm curious.....would that arcade be open on the 29th of this month, by chance?
As for the tournament.....rb and I have been discussing that for the longest while, and I did have one planned since July. Unfortunately, a whole lot of factors indefinitely cancelled that one.
However, I am interested in jump-starting that idea again.
Perhaps you can impart some knowledge on us, though...how are tournaments in your neck of the woods run?
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The 29th would be open. As for the tournament u can get some ideas from http://zachd.com/mvc2/tourney.html
It can be a ps2 tourney but arcade would be better. Any arcade with more than one Mvc2?
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preppy's guide is outdated...
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hey rb when u commin back playmax. The game fix. Msp vs Msp vs Msp. :violent5:
3 msp players will battle it out.
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next week most likely
tings real busy in jk
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cool man cant wait. Been praticing like a bitch. we should do a recording
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Yes, we should.
Anyway, would I be right to assume that you and your friend would be there on the 29th?
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most definitely.
Who is the guy with the expierence against jwong. ultima or imperial x?
whichever one bring them all.Sentinel's stomping will get a surprise, I can use my dcamera but without audio.sucks.
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Most likely, Ultima. Imperial X doesn't really play this game so much.
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whats teams do you use mainly?
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Me? Oh. That's my little secret. Do some digging up on me, though, and you'll see.... ;)
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I've never played Sanford actually. Actually, I've never played against any of the top tier CTF crew at MvC2.. I've seen them play a couple times in person years ago (my last US tournament was March Madness 2002), but never really played against them in MvC2. There would be no point anyway: Even at my peak, I wasn't even good enough to beat CTF scrubs, far less the good players there.
whiplash:
Where is your friend from? While a one off match win doesn't prove anything, if he's had any sort of experience against CTF players, I would likely be no match for him, and probably not you either. As I noted in the MvC1 thread, I've been playing Magneto since May 2000, and I still can't even do beginner Tempest combos with him consistently; y'know, the kind of combos that stopped working back in early 2002. My Sentinel stomping is hella basic, nothing at all you haven't seen. Can you do ROM infinite? Last time I played in NY was in late April, and I managed to hit a CTF guy once before being used as a combo dummy for the next 50 seconds by Mags (MSP).
So yeah. If you're friend is going to get a challenge in this country - unlikely, IMO - it won't be coming from a washed up hasbeen/neverwas like me. :(
rb:
Can you do ROM yet?
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yeah i can
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Cool. Practice makes perfect I guess. Your Mags is now officially better than mine. That's way beyond my dexterity.
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nah man when i beat it down then it'll be better that yours, your grasp of the basics is much better than mine.
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most definitely.
All right, cool. I'll make a spin tomorrow, from about 11-ish.
Hopefully, I can find the place.
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(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7513/vmarvelvscapcom2newageoke7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Game: Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Venue: Playmax, Chaguanas
Time: 11:00 AM onwards
A'ight, youse mugs. Listen up.
I'm heading down to Chaguanas to do battle with whiplash, because I want some ACK-SHUN!!
And, as such, I'm inviting anybody here to head down and join in the royal pwnage.
If Marvel vs. Capcom 1 is there, also, I'll also be playing that.
So, head down there and get your game on!
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come and get it then
sat 11am
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Not really marvel related , but good game to Ultima in Accent Core yesterday. Lots of good matches and comebacks between the two of us, I'll leave it to you to give a little report, outside of that one match where every round ended in destroyed combos I'd say we were pretty even when we were playing our main characters with the odd streaks inbetween (ok I lie I feel Eddie got the better of Potemkin once I got my rhythm in :P)
good riddance 2007, may 2008 bring sweatage abundantly!
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nice sweat sat fellas. neo, ultima and a lil from rb. about 7 full hrs of mvc2 was great!.it was cool dat u guys came down.
neo,
ur megaman and roll were great. u know what u were doing.the beat plane was a lil confusing. u know how and when 2 use ur assist. u had my msp like a lil vagina for a while. BUT.. u seriously couldn't beat team scrub. The only time u wre cursing alot was while playing scrub. "that fu**** commando!!",sorry for the harsh truth. u are truly a great low tier player.very clever. mad schiznit to u man.Ur sentinal has a lot to learn. That being the art of stomping for one. Roopie says that u and ultima are great blockers. I agreed. u know the general score though?. I hope ur foot
is better. u got stamina bro! dont worry about the coins cuz most of em was free.
Ultima
U surprised me when u came man. Didn't thought u was comming. It was great playing a good expierenced player like urself. I didnt get much matches against u but probably next time. I envy your ability to get out of the hypergrav trmpest combos. Help with that would be appriciated. Ur fighting style is lil different. I dont know how. U have the makings of a great player if you get back in the game. I hate your blocking. U could block.good. Wish u stayed longer like neo did. He stayed till the arcade closed!
The easiest air tempest combo goes like this Cr Hp (air)lp,lk,mp, "mk and hygrav immidiately with HK"(not lk),"immidiately tempest after".after tempest is finished hit lp. lk, immidiately airdash up forward immidiately
hit lp, lk, mp imm hygrav with hk tempest.. I cant stress the immidiately enough. thats a two rep tempest combo.
If u are still interested u can practise the combo.
Rb
We finally played each other on a fixed machine. NICE TO PLAY ANOTHER MSP PLAYER IN CHAGUANAS. I want to
play u when u are at your best. that would be with your joystick 4 ps2. Im really interested in one probably by next month. I can stll kick a$$ with a normal controller. We should do a ps2 battle. U should come playmax more often when u get chance. I need to get more expierence against good players like yourself. Snapback is a mofo eh.
Well fella i really enjoyed sat. wish everyday was like that.seriously. cud u guys ccome everyday? lol.
hope we could do it again soon also before roopie goes back to the states. till march. Till then i will be practising like a mad man literally. hrs upon hrs. i have to master the rom inf and the slide method rushdowns with mag.
Hope u guys still practising...oh..... HAPPY NEW YEARS!
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nice sweat sat fellas. neo, ultima and a lil from rb. about 7 full hrs of mvc2 was great!.it was cool dat u guys came down.
neo,
ur megaman and roll were great. u know what u were doing.the beat plane was a lil confusing. u know how and when 2 use ur assist. u had my msp like a lil vagina for a while. BUT.. u seriously couldn't beat team scrub. The only time u wre cursing alot was while playing scrub. "that fu**** commando!!",sorry for the harsh truth. u are truly a great low tier player.very clever. mad schiznit to u man.Ur sentinal has a lot to learn. That being the art of stomping for one. Roopie says that u and ultima are great blockers. I agreed. u know the general score though?. I hope ur foot
is better. u got stamina bro! dont worry about the coins cuz most of em was free.
Much obliged, partner. Glad to finally meet some more fellas who could give me some serious competition down here.
Team Scrub gave me sheer horrors, I'll admit.
Captain Commando + Cable = PRESSHA.
It go to the point where I just had to nuke that Commando off of the face of the Earth, at any cost.
Yup, I'm pretty much aware that my Sentinel sucks.
I don't really practice so much with him, so it's true....he does have a lot to learn. As an example, the same day when we faced off, was the same day I learned about the advantages of an overhead Jab.
As for my team....yup, they are awesome. :awesome:
A lot of people take the kids for granted, but the key difference between my Mega Man and Roll and anybody who picks them up on a whim is that I have a whole decade of experience using them (in both MvC1 and 2), and it takes somebody with a true knack for top-tiers and how the game works in general to beat them.
As for the general score....I think you guys netted quite a few over us. Don't worry, though...when next we meet, the tables shall be turned. ;)
As for my foot...it's a lot better now, thanks for asking. It tends to get numb, given the way I stand on it in the arcade for extended periods of time. Last time, at Galactica at Trincity Mall, I went up to the MvC machine up there, and stood my ground for 6 hours straight. I got a few challenges here and there, but overall, I must have made between 37-40 wins on that day. After that, I practically keeled over on myself, because the right side of my body was so numb, you could've rubbed me raw with broken glass, salt and fire ants and I wouldn't have felt a thing.
.....in other words, it was great.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to doing this again.
You've got another date in mind, by chance? ( I can't make it for this Saturday or Sunday due to the tournament that I'm planning).
:roll:
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cool.Well im in the arcade almost everyday after 4 except on sat. so when u are available just let me know.
Any sat would be better though. And bro rem i only playing for about 4 months now and look where i have reached
so imagine next time we meet what will happen :mellow:
peace dude
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who wants some licks trhis saturday? NEO u comming?
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I might be able to come this Saturday. Last Saturday I was asleep, cause I had come home from work 9:00 PM and 10:00 PM on Thursday/Friday (and 11:00 PM on Sunday! >:( ).
whip:
re: Getting out of Tempest
Would you believe that is the FIRST time I've ever mashed out of Tempest? I was just as surprised as you were. It's also the only time, so I don't know why you claim that as an "ability". I've never had much chance to practice it. I know the method for it: You need to mash the joystick and buttons after the Hyer-Grav hits but before the first hit connects. You supposedly only need a quick left-right-left-right motion (ending with joystick away from opponent so that you end up blocking), but as I said, I haven't had much chance to practice.
I'll try using the HK Hyper-GRav in air combos. I always do the LK version, and my biggest problem is canceling too fast, where the Grav doesn't come out. Maybe that was my issue all along? I'll see if I can't swing by St. James this week and test it out. I know what to do after the Tempest hits, though it seems to be very inconsistent for me: Most of the time, the opponent is too low for me to tack on any more hits. Is it just a matter of hitting the button sooner?
I block decently well I suppose. And I can run a fairly deal too! Sometimes it's all I can do! :p
(BTW whiplash, you need to run more with Storm).
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who wants some licks trhis saturday? NEO u comming?
Well, I would, but...
( I can't make it for this Saturday or Sunday due to the tournament that I'm planning).
Probably some time later this month. The family would be coming in back from Florida this weekend, and I've got to prepare for their arrival.
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coll neo, im always here,
ult.
pratice the combo over and over using different speeds for the hygrav tempest.one variation must work.
usually after the 1st rep the opp is very high so hit lp lk mk then dash up then lp lk......repeat..pratice bro.u'll
get it. if ur opp cant break out of the the hg it can be very irritating.
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All right. How does the 26th of January sound?
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ok then the 26th it is. On another note Im going to build an arcade stick by sunday 4 my ps2.
that means.... well you know. :mellow: I hope u praticing 4 d 3 weeks hard and not hardly. its going on yuotube 4 sure
RB
u orgazin. the evo dvd 4 me?
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yeah, i just ordered the 2k7 also, should be here in a few weeks i hope.
btw my cell is down so if anyone has been trying to call now u know why.
bah so little time so much to do :(
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Would you be able to make it for the sweat, though?
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i work saturdays so its highly unlikely, i'll see what i can do, but I already took some time off this week for some personal reasons so I dunno.
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anybody else interested.
Shin U ?
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Well, if there's anything going down tomorrow, I'm not going to be able to make it. Have to get something sorted out with my car.
Not gonna be able to make it to Java on Sunday either, if anything was happening. Sunday is my company (HILO) fete, and I sorta haveta go. Hell, I might have to do work while the fete is going on. :(
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well that just buss....
who's for chinese ?!
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who's for chinese ?!
Women? YUS.
Food? Blech. Too much MSG.
Well, if there's anything going down tomorrow, I'm not going to be able to make it. Have to get something sorted out with my car.
Not gonna be able to make it to Java on Sunday either, if anything was happening. Sunday is my company (HILO) fete, and I sorta haveta go. Hell, I might have to do work while the fete is going on. :(
The MvC ONE sweat is happening tommorrow. This one's not until the end of the month, so I don't think you'll have anything to worry about.
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I like to eat Chinese.
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....theres a double meaning in there isnt it...
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Yes there is.
(My wife is Chinese :)).
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In fact, I'm eating some Chinese right now as I type this. You can interpret that any way you like.
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....I think my mind just broke. Srsly. DAMN YOU, ULTIMA!!
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lol, I like to eat chinese too.
throw in some spanish seasoning and some yam on the side, better fete.
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l a w l !!!!!
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u guys know that u cud pick 3 same characters :awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xeisD01DlU
How the ass u do that??
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console version only...
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Would Sentinel/Sentinel/Commando be the best team? Or Storm/Storm/Psylocke? Cable/Cable/Cable would certainly be scrubby, but not very good I imagine (burns too much meter).
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How about no triple teams altogether?
Well. Maybe except for 3 Servbots. ULTRA CHEESE!!
Blah, I kid. I keeed.
In any case, 3 Cables are a bad idea.
I can outwit a Cable unless he has very decent Assists to back him up, and Cable x2 aren't good assists for the last one.
I'd have to go with Storm/Storm/Psylocke.
That would be a hard to kill team. If you can even reach it at all.
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I can outwit a Cable unless he has very decent Assists to back him up
And when is this not the case? Cable/A-Cable would still be very annoying. There's not much to "outwit" when facing that type of sheer firepower and screen coverage. BUt as I said, it's not likely to be a good team because it has 3 meter hogs and doesn't generate it fast enough. Mags and Storm would have a field day with that team.
Storm/Storm would likely be an exercise in criminal frustration. Get a lead, then run away for the rest of the match. And if one Storm dies, another comes in to keep up the running! ARGH! >:|
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Well, I went to St.James yesterday to try out using HK Hyper-GRav instead of LK Hyper-Grav in Mag's air combo. And the results were... inconclusive for the time I played, which wasn't that long. I managed to hit the combo fairly often, but I STILL missed by canceling way too fast before the Hyper-Grav even came out. But I believe my hit rate went up compared to how I've been hitting it in the past few months, roughly equal to how I would do on a "good" day with LK. Need more play time (which isn't coming before Saturday for the earliest) to confirm.
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ur problem is the cancel speed after the hg. mixup speeds and find the correct one 4 u.
where are the arcades with good mvc2 players at?
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the US lolz
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and you'll be hard pressed to find them even there. fancy driving around a few thousand miles? lol
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Noob:
Yuo just have to go to the right areas. Anywhere around NYC is a good place to look. I was in a random mall on Long Island one Saturday in late April, and got totally destroyed by a guy who was obviously CTF trained. Hell, that same place I bounced up a former roommate of mine whose ass I used to kick 6 years ago, and wow, I can't kick his ass any more. The boy's been practicing. I'm so proud of him. :p
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I'm glad to hear the arcade scene still has some life up there in NYC.
Kane, the legacy continues.
It is always heart warming to see a young grasshopper come into his own.
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hey whip did u get the stick made as planned ? i hoping to get some free time sometime before carnival, i should start back practicing marvel around then.
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I have all the parts Just waiting to drill the holes and do the final wiring. By sat it will be finished. :mellow:
Battle with the sticks? :icon_pirat:
Where are all the good players in trinidad at?. Where. seriously.
I want some friggin challange before i get fedup and stop playing this game and start back playing tekken. :angry:
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NEO............. R U PraTicIng? :icon_pirat:
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Yup. Trying out a couple of new things here and there.
Nothing the level of ROM infinites or MSP, mind you, but just a few things that may come in very handy later....
By the way, what time would you be there for?
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How does 11 sound?
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Sounds like a plan to me. Ultima, you're still in for this one, right?
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This is for when and where now?
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Read the thread title.
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u think we could do a ps2 sweat sometime?
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Sure, I don't see why not. However, I can't make it after the 26th. Carnival is just around the corner, the following week have a tournament to organise, and after that I'm leaving the country for a while.
We'd have to see what we could organise for March.
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So this Saturday.... where and what time again? Is this by Java?
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No....Playmax.
This Saturday, at 11.
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Looking foward to playing you guys again :mellow:
I'll make sure the buttons working properly
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Ah. Okay. PlayMax it is then. Is Q showing up to this or no?
This is gonna be my last opportunity to play for a while. Between Carnival and a cousin who's staying with me, I'm not going to have time to jaunt off when I want for the next 3 weeks or so.
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na,he says he has to work.me ,you,neo and my boy roopie will b there for sure. Maybe RB.
RB if u commin c if u cud bring me the evo dvd nah.And neo bring a knee band for your feet. :happy0203:
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Oh hardy har, har.
I'll have you know that that numbness in my legs is 100% pure adrenaline. Sure, it sucks feeling as if I'm standing on two chopsticks, but the thrill of playing to my fullest?
Best feeling in the world.
EDIT: Is anybody bringing a camcorder with them to this sweat? I'm beginning to think Q has the right idea when he said that we should start taping our matches.
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May i remind you that not only he has suggested this as a couple of years ago i started a thread titled
Gamers caught on tape...
ne way we ready need to start taping our matches not only in mvc2 but mvc as well. maybe even make a amv out of them lol..
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FOr the record, I personally have no desire to see my suckage recorded for posterity. :p
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Good sweat, everybody.
whiplash, you and Roodie (that's his name, right?) kicked some major ass this time around.
It's a shame the air conditioner broke down, though.
That heat (and the smell) was getting unbearable.
Still, good matches were to be had by all.
...by the way, folks, just giving you a heads up....whiplash now has a severe dislike of Servbot.
Really. Let him tell you that story. It's funny. Really. :awesome:
:kobun:
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lol..his name is Roopie..sad....
Anyways the "SWEAT" was literall. good game fellas. But as usual Team scrub dominated :icon_pirat:
The funny thing neo is i do well against top tier char's but against your mudass low tier i have a a lil trouble.
Who would of tought your servbot-tom would be a pain. Probably my lack of expierence is the cause. He would die eventually but cause real trouble especiall with that damm super where he chips me away..fuck u servbot!. Next time i won't underestimate the lil bitch who humps ppl's knee.As always your game is great.Im glad shin and rb came as well and put up a fight.I cant believe shin STILL cant get the damm air tempest combos :shakehead:.I hope rb gets back in the game so i cud fight him at his best. Neo if u train a bit with sentinal u wud be a LOT harder to beat.
Hope u guys could come back soon, sadly(or not for u ) next time roopie wont be there for he's out next month.he would be back hopefully next year.He's my training buddy and the reason why i reach this level in 5 months of playing.
When next fellas???????? Rb said sumtime before carnival..................
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I won't be available until way after Carnival.
whip, I told you: I've been playing Mags for nearly eight years (sorta; see below). I have never been consistent with his combos, because I am not a combo player. Never have been, never will be. My reflexes and dexterity aren't up to it. Even if Cable weren't in the game, I was never going to be that good in MvC2 because of physical limits. I try to make up for it by being smarter than my opponent, but MvC2 isn't a game that usually rewards outsmarting your opponent - it's heavily skewed towards taking the biggest advantage out of the smallest opening, which only comes through tons of experience and practice, and I have no time to practice. In fact, I really stopped playing this game seriously sometime in 2001, and have only played it a handful of times since.
Sometimes I have a good day, sometimes not. The first time we met up was a good day for me. Last Saturday was definitely not a good day for me. Oh well. *shrugs*
(BTW, Servebot = Flight + Sentinel Stomp).
Speaking of MvC2, this thread title (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=148388) is the funniest thing I've read in a while. :D
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(shakes fist @ Neo for not having the matches recorded after being offered a cam, lol)
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u want me to post the last month sweat? i will try to fix the quality and stuff?
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NEO Neo neo... Where are u??
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I'm here. Just a little busy organising a tournament right now, though.
Sorry I couldn't have made it for last week.
I just flew in, and BOY ARE MY ARMS TIRED.
:awesome:
......:awesome:
.......
>=(
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k..whenever you ready then.
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Just letting you all know: I have exams, and it's highly unlikely you'll see me before April. Check you guys later.
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D MVC2 scene dead right now yes.oh and roopie on a plane as i type this.Ill miss him and his mvc2 skillz.
It's Tekken 5 Idmc for now..... :lol:
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play guilty gear :D
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I learnt the frigging ROM infinite...finally. :awesome: MAG+ROM= hard
NEO..
Megaman (proj) Cyclops (AA) Doom (AA)
does that team makes sense? Any suggestion on order or diffenent assist type(doom remains AA)
MM is strictly point.that frigging team covers almost the whole screen.I starting to like this not- so -megaman.
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I learnt the frigging ROM infinite...finally. :awesome: MAG+ROM= hard
NEO..
Megaman (proj) Cyclops (AA) Doom (AA)
does that team makes sense? Any suggestion on order or diffenent assist type(doom remains AA)
MM is strictly point.that frigging team covers almost the whole screen.I starting to like this not- so -megaman.
Mega Man has some serious zoning potential, so I wouldn't give that team wrong.
Team him up with Sentinel, though, and you'll really see people tear their hair out.
By the way, are you available next week Saturday?
I'm looking to start up sweats in this game again.
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The team shouldnt have any god tier in it thats why no Sent. You know i love a challenge
That would b on d 30th rite. wonder if Shin and Rb cud make it
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The team shouldnt have any god tier in it thats why no Sent. You know i love a challenge
That would b on d 30th rite. wonder if Shin and Rb cud make it
Actually, the 29th. The 30th is the Sunday, but I think that works out better for me.
I'll drop Ultima and rb a line.
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I'm out, don't think i'll be playing mvc2 ever again.
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I'm out, don't think i'll be playing mvc2 ever again.
LIES, WE SHALL BRING YOU BACK IN THE FOLD.
...join us.....
....JOIN USSSS......
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I'm out, don't think i'll be playing mvc2 ever again.
whaaaaaat??? :angry:
aye neo we seriously have to do some proper recordings. u also have to give me some pointers on mega-can when we meet..i dont like roll :happy0203:
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so we still on for sat rite? if so what time?
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Playmax sat?
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Playmax on Saturday, for sure. I was thinking around 1:30PM.
Anybody else in?
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ultima said he might be in.
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Cool. The more the merrier, I say!
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I hope u ready for tomorow :icon_pirat:
btw...Megaboy's beatplane is useless if the other guy is in t corner rite? cuse you cant go behind him.
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Megaboy's beatplane is useless if the other guy is in t corner rite? cuse you cant go behind him.
EEEEEECH... WRONG. The only thing they did to screw up that super was to slow it down. It's no longer easily comboable but it's still a good tool to use and since NEO's Megaman is the only one I've ever fought that surpassed mine, I'm sure he'll still find some way to bomb the Baghdad out of you.
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I'm sure he'll still find some way to bomb the Baghdad out of you.
lol..In the corner I doubt but anywhere else he could.I usually catch this guy behind his back midscreen with the BP but when he was in the corner I couldnt do sh**.
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It really depends on how hard you're pressing your back to that corner. In MvC1, at least, I have my ways of nagging somebody out of a corner....
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So its 1:30 for tomoro?
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Yes, indeed! :awesome:
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Dude there is some guys up in trincity "claiming" titles from MVC 1 & 2. I of course silenced them all last weekend (even though i am not well with the kidney stones thing an all, dont worry i am fine taking treatment n painkillers. now there is just a hint of the uncomfortable feeling) they came in one by one and left one after the other. Now its your turn to rough them up in MVC 2!!!
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Dude there is some guys up in trincity "claiming" titles from MVC 1 & 2. I of course silenced them all last weekend (even though i am not well with the kidney stones thing an all, dont worry i am fine taking treatment n painkillers. now there is just a hint of the uncomfortable feeling) they came in one by one and left one after the other. Now its your turn to rough them up in MVC 2!!!
WHERE AND WHEN.
...cause I reckon it's time to put some peeps in their place.
WITH CHILDREN!!!
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I don't mind being the opening act for this one time vs these guys.
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Sorry guys, I can't make it. I found out this afternoon I have to work tomorrow... rat bastards... >:|
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Argh. Well, better luck next time, Ultima.
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nice sweat sat neo.man my megaman is shitty but he did his job :awesome:. call im a pussy...small thing.ill try to put up the vid asap.
Dude there is some guys up in trincity "claiming" titles from MVC 1 & 2. I of course silenced them all last weekend (even though i am not well with the kidney stones thing an all, dont worry i am fine taking treatment n painkillers. now there is just a hint of the uncomfortable feeling) they came in one by one and left one after the other. Now its your turn to rough them up in MVC 2!!!
boy those fools sounding like noobs.But i dont mind neo humilitating them with his low tier and me toying with them with my super-godly-all mighty-tier.its a shame trincity doesnt have MVC2 :angry:
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A shame indeed. I'll have to ask them about that.
In any case, looking forward to that video, whiplash. =)
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wasn't there an arcade in curepe with mvc2 ?
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There is. He closes at about 2 on Saturdays, though.
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I think I know who that crew was. Some n00bs I knew from Back to Basics arcade told me that they were going to the mall to sweat. I told them that there were bigger fish in the water but they didn't believe me. I use to take it easy on them and even teach them a couple things. If these guys you schooled are the same ones I'm thinking about, I am going to LMAO.
*singsong* "I warned you..." :awesome:
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Well, then. I say we head down to Trincity this Saturday at about 4 and cobbo sweat these peeps. Any takers?
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does that make any sence beating a set of noobs who never faced a good player?
but u could just go to see their faces when they loss.
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I think they are the same Q... they were very confused prob asking them selves "Did I just lose?!?!" but i played different characters than i usually play i mean Zangief n Chun Li? When was the last ne 1 ever saw me play that team?...Venom n Gambit... Ryu n Wolverine speaking of which i was in Sando on saturday went to Gulf City arcade...nice place nice people plenty noobs couple challengers (literally 2) that can PLAY MVC1. we battled for 2 hours. i felt like it was a tag team one comes in loses then the other... i played over 50 games that day n lost only 16 (wifey accounted for 3 loses) they have potential plus i was playing random teams. when i played as double hulk / warmachine / chunli / venom. i pulled crowd since most people never saw these people before.... shame... oh well saturday in trincity ne1?
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does that make any sence beating a set of noobs who never faced a good player?
Beating? No, no, noooo, my good whiplash.
I prefer to use the term "initiating." As in, initiating them into the New Era Outlaw's School of Hard Knocks.
Activities may include finger painting, arts and crafts, cake decorating and getting beaten within an inch of your life by teeny, tiny childrens. =)
:roll:
oh well saturday in trincity ne1?
I'm game. Bonus points if we get to school the merry band of noobs at the same time. Q, are you in? If so, have your camera on hand. I wants to see some footage of the pwnage.
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Dammit, I've got to work. Thank God for the job but I'll have to pass. I would've LOVED to see the looks on their faces.
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should have cammed the d@mn pawnage down south ...lol
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a lil off topic..how's the tekkentag and 5 crowd there on sat's?
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Pretty good, actually. I've seen a pretty decent crowd around those machines.
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someone mentioned vids earlier ?
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I'll wave my magic wand tomorow
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I'll wave my magic wand tomorow
...whiplash, PLEASE! There may be children present!
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megaman, tron and roll?
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All right guys....some bad news.
Apparently, MP on the 2nd player side of MvC in Trincity Mall is sticking horribly, and the arcade told me that they'll be repairing it on Saturday. Unless I can get some confirmation that it would be up and running by 4 on that day, I'm afraid I'll have to scrap that sweat.
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At $2.50 a coin... WTMC o_O
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Indeed. A few of the machines, in fact, are broken down. It also looks like a few more of the machines are missing as well. I'm beginning to wonder if that arcade's jumped the shark in popularity.
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Ah, good sweat, whiplash. I only wished Ultima and rb were there to make things more awesome.
By the way, what's the word on the footage?
Also....anybody up for some beatdown in MvC1 on Sunday?
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nah not sundays dread that be the day i spend with d wifey...
ill be out on saturdays the day i lime n sweat ...:P
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All righty. One thing, though. Did they fix that machine as yet?
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All the damm footage too friggin dark :angry:..I got a video editor to do some fine tuning yesterday
but it real hard to brighten the clips without reducin the allready low quality.Im working on it so it will b up soon.
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send me the clips and i'll fix eeet
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On a completely unrelated note: Hey rb - Who is rootsmannick on SRK, and why should I care?
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http://www.youtube.com/user/rootsmannick
check his vids and judge for yourself.
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if i get a chance i'll drop all the footage by jk this saturday. u doing all the converting to rite?
NEO
lets arrange a ps2 session.
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oh i'm off work for a few weeks to finish my projects for school i may be able to make a ps2 session..
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Awesome. Would this Sunday be all right?
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rb:
That footage tells me nothing really. But as I said on SRK, I've faced him already, beaten him with Bison, don't need to face him again. :p
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I can make it for this sunday.also my ps2 stick.what say rb and ultima?
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Nope. Sundays are out for me until the 2nd week of May. Saturday's not too good either. So yeah: Check back with me in 3 weeks or so.
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Sunday's AWESOME. I hate MvC2 but I'm always up for a good sweat. Saturday's a definite no-no. I got Southern business.
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Awesome. So, I take it we're rolling by JAVA, then, or did you guys have another place in mind?
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Hey Q drop me a line when you get a chance, I won't be online much since some stupid truck pulled down the cable and fone lines in my street (see internet video thread).
Re: JAVA
one I push enough school work on saturday I guess I can make a sunday sweat.
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Q:
make sure and bring your recorder so u can continue your Quest :happy0203:
*whiplash wakes up MM/Cyc/Doom and goes to practice room*
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WEY WAS DE F*CKIN SWEAT?
I ended up staying in South overnight but I got to Java mins to 6 on Sunday and saw NOBODY.
Allyuh pee and went to bed awat?
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Sorry, Q....we had to cancel the sweat at the last second. Crap, I totally forgot that you were coming. Sorry.
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No scene. At least I didn't miss anything. :awesome:
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anyone got a phone contact for ultima ?
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795-9783
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Well, we'd definitely have to organise something in this again. Sadly, now that I work on Saturdays, I won't be able to make it until about 5 in the afternoons, tops. We'd probably have to organise a console sweat sometime on a Sunday, probably by JAVA or somewhere convenient.
What say you guys?
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I have a arcade stick waiting to share some licks. this sunday?
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I'm afraid not. I think this Sunday's Mother's Day, and you know what that means...
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Dug this up from four years ago. Ordinarily, I wouldn't bother, but this statement amused me so much, I just had to repost it.
How honourable is it to play with ppl like Servbot, Roll and Megaman. 2 of those can duck under projectiles and are hard to land combos on and you know that. Where is your honour?
...thoughts?
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lol @ that quote.there's nothing dishonourable about playing with those kids.U proved that they can beat n e body especially hi tier.megaman and servbot can hold there own w/o assist,Im not sure about Roll though as from wht Ive seen she needs an assist to make her effective(I could be wrong)
I have been trying megaman and Juggs(switch glitched) lately.Next time we meet Juggs will eat you :icon_pirat:...
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No, you're quite right. Roll does need help to be effective.
Sadly, though, she's nowhere near as being effective in MvC2 as she was in 1 (such as it is.) At the very least, she could have held her own ground in 1 even if she had no assists or a partner (Beat Plane and tic-throwing/sweeping.) I could even tell you this one time where I almost made a complete comeback vs. Wolverine/Strider in that dire situation. (Keyword: almost.)
As for glitched Juggernaut....you do know use of him is generally discouraged in tournaments, right?
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no he's not
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Rb is right.in tournaments someone has to be mad to pick Juggs except if they are playing Team Beast(tron,doom,Juggs).Juggs gets raped all sides in high level play.
Imo no character should be "discouraged" from tourneys.
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no he's not
He's not? Hm. Perhaps I got a hold of some bad information.
Imo no character should be "discouraged" from tourneys.
Different game, but....Gill.
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Glitched Juggs is not only not banned, he should be doing that much damage in the first place. No one seriously uses Juggs since at least late 2000 - he dies to the Big Four and gets stopped dead by Doom Rocks.
Also, Servbot and Roll are rubbish. MvC2 MM is average. MvC1 Roll is also rubbish. MvC1 MM is interesting if you don't know how to fight against him, but he really dies to the top tier as well.
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MvC1 MM is interesting if you don't know how to fight against him, but he really dies to the top tier as well.
Only if you don't know how to play with him. With the exception of Wolverine, there are quite a few things you can actually pull off with Mega Man that counters some of the tricks that the higher tiers (in MvC1) use (Beat Plane, for example, stops an Ouroburos induced Strider cold. Just ask quite a few people in Trincity.)
Really, Ultima....you've got to let go of some of these ideas you've been having. Namely, "If you don't pick A, you cannot beat B." In MvC1, it's rubbish thinking. True, GWM and the like are notoriously evil, but they definitely are not Storm/Sentinel/Cable-level broken. This Saturday, I'm going to have to personally free up your mind, because, as you will learn, not everything in that game is set in stone.
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GRUDGE MATCH!!!!!
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Really, Ultima....you've got to let go of some of these ideas you've been having. Namely, "If you don't pick A, you cannot beat B." In MvC1, it's rubbish thinking. True, GWM and the like are notoriously evil, but they definitely are not Storm/Sentinel/Cable-level broken. This Saturday, I'm going to have to personally free up your mind, because, as you will learn, not everything in that game is set in stone.
you really need to stop NEO, considering he was playing at the peak of the game, and saw the game at the highest level with the recognised best players in the world says a whole lot more than your notion of freeing up his mind.
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Yeah. When I talk about these things, I'm really talking about the highest levels, not necessarily our little random giggle fests. And the thing is NEO, to compete at the highest levels, Mega Man and Beat Plane simply don't cut it. Mine is not rubbish thinking, it's reality thinking.
As I told you, you're not even the third best MM I've ever seen or faced, and those guys got crushed by Strider/GWM/WM/Red Venom (Wolverine is actually the worst of the top tier, at least in the arcade). I've done some of that crushing myself, but I was really just kinda average at the highest levels. And that was 9 years ago.
Don't take the roughly even (might have been slightly in your favour) wins against me as indicative of anything other than than you're fighting someone way past his prime, and who wasn't even that great (compared to the other really good players at the game) in the first place. And JD's DWM barely counts as a DWM team since his WM is barely being used at his potential (if you can't do Unfly infinite with WM, you're not using him right). The best players in the world couldn't stop a good DWM with anyone that didn't include Strider or a WM when the game was at its peak, far less now, barring perhaps keyboard Wolverine (certain Wolvie infinites become possible only on keyboard with macros) or HUGE gaps in skill.
BTW, you're right that GWM/WM aren't MvC2 Big Four - they're worse. At least the Big FOur in MvC2 are balanced against each other and there is no single best team. That doesn't apply to MvC1, where 1 team singlehandedly destroys all other teams, save for itself and, to a lesser extent, a team with Strider and a WM. If I hadn't seen this all first hand, perhaps I wouldn't believe it either. But I have, so I do.
Whip:
There wouldn't be much of a point to a grudematch since I'm not good enough personally to prove all the things I say (e.g. I can't do WM Unfly Infinite, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, nor does it mean that a good WM won't likely kill you off of one knee dive), nor do I give enough of a rat's ass to try. The last time I got beat by Megaman, it took six months of heavy duty training to overcome (a former roommate of mine, perhaps the second best MM and definitely the best Cap A I've ever seen; I stole my Cap A from him), but once I did so, I never looked back. That was ten years ago and I no longer have the time or the will to do something like that. Maybe if I still liked MvC1 to any extent, but otherwise, no. I'll take my losses from children just fine, cause it proves nothing.
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you really need to stop NEO, considering he was playing at the peak of the game, and saw the game at the highest level with the recognised best players in the world says a whole lot more than your notion of freeing up his mind.
Know what? Just save it, rb. I'm through talking. It's time for results, not words.
See you at four tomorrow, folks.
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Just a lil heads up mvc2ers. Another friend of mine (not roopie) is visiting trini from away sometime next month.
Oh and he plays top tier.
Aside from that, lets organise something on ps2 soon.. what say?
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This sunday at JAVA :icon_pirat:
Im gonna pwn NEO
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Final Score:
1st Hour: NEO - 13 wins, Whiplash - 10 Wins
2nd Hour: NEO - 14 Wins, Whiplash - 12 Wins
...and you are such a bastard for picking three Sentinels right off the starting gate, whippy. :P
We should definitely do this again sometime, but next time, we bring our own PS2, and we arrive dead early at JAVA (cause $15 per person, per hour is TOO MUCH at Virtual Zone when you can pay $25 for the whole day at the coffee house. Yes, we had to change venues.)
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look how neo remember d scores....... :ko:
just 4 dat next time yuh getting 3 runaway storms.MOO WHO HA HA!!.
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So I hear whiplash/NEO are having a MvC2 tournament this December. I heard it from Alan, one of the guys who frequents St. James arcade. IF this thing goes through, since this would be about the second or third time I've heard NEO trying to organize such a thing since last year, I will definitely NOT be attending, because this December my wife and I will be expecting our first child. If it's at the very end of the month I might be able to make a quick appearance, but other than that, no. I'll be waaaaaay too busy. Just though I'd give you guys a heads up in case you cared.
Also, Alan told me whiplash/NEO had some sort of preview tournament a couple months ago, won my NEO. Alan told me that NEO changed teams after every match. IF this is true, since it's possible he may been mistaken, I would like to point out that's a no no. The rules are winner must keep his character/team, and only the loser may switch. Just FYI.
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So I hear whiplash/NEO are having a MvC2 tournament this December. I heard it from Alan, one of the guys who frequents St. James arcade. IF this thing goes through, since this would be about the second or third time I've heard NEO trying to organize such a thing since last year, I will definitely NOT be attending, because this December my wife and I will be expecting our first child. If it's at the very end of the month I might be able to make a quick appearance, but other than that, no. I'll be waaaaaay too busy. Just though I'd give you guys a heads up in case you cared.
Also, Alan told me whiplash/NEO had some sort of preview tournament a couple months ago, won my NEO. Alan told me that NEO changed teams after every match. IF this is true, since it's possible he may been mistaken, I would like to point out that's a no no. The rules are winner must keep his character/team, and only the loser may switch. Just FYI.
whiplash and I? No....not that I recall. I know Carl is attempting something this December.
By the way, yes, it's true, I did switch teams between matches. But, there wasn't any rules in that particular tournament that said that I couldn't (heck, everybody save Carl was doing it) so meh. Whatever.
Congrats on the latest addition to your family, by the way.
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It's been awhile NEO since we had us a brawl. Remember the guy who said he was the best in trinidad..... I dusted em out last 2 weeks.His friend quoted him saying "I dont have a fix for sentinal and commando". Appanantely he never tasted high level of play before he met me. If u have the time let me know if this could happen and I might invite "the best" and his parthner for and extended beating.Tell carl and whoever else that might be interested.
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Yep. It's been far too long, old friend.
Where and when do you propose we do this thing we do so well?
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Just letting you guys know, my wife gave birth to our daughter last Saturday. I'm more or less done with MvC2 (have been for years, actually; playing you guys merely reactivated these old hands temporarily, but even reaching my old peak is a fleeting fancy, far less surpassing it), so even though you haven't really seen me in a while, you really won't be seeing me for a while now. :p
However, I'll be looking to pick up SFIV and SFHD when I get my PS3 (hopefully in January). I already have the TV setup for it: A Sharp AQUOS 42" 1080p I got from Courts!
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Just letting you guys know, my wife gave birth to our daughter last Saturday. I'm more or less done with MvC2 (have been for years, actually; playing you guys merely reactivated these old hands temporarily, but even reaching my old peak is a fleeting fancy, far less surpassing it), so even though you haven't really seen me in a while, you really won't be seeing me for a while now. :p
However, I'll be looking to pick up SFIV and SFHD when I get my PS3 (hopefully in January). I already have the TV setup for it: A Sharp AQUOS 42" 1080p I got from Courts!
Hey, congrats, Ultima!
Glad to hear the good news.
In any case, while I'm going to stick around with MvC2 for a while, it might be only a matter of time before I move up the food chain to Tatsunoko vs. Capcom. That game is serious fun.
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Congratulations Papa Ultima. Always great to hear good news. :banana: :banana: :banana:
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Wow. TvC is serious fun. I haven't played a game of MvC ever since I got it. Roll is like a ka-zillion times better in this game than in Marvel. So much so, that you will catch your ass to beat her.
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Congrats on bringing a new life into this world Ultima. I've got two kids myself, so I know the joy and the demands those bumpkins bring.
Question for you. Why a PS3 for the SFIV action?
Don't you think there will be more of an online/competitive community around the xbox 360 version?
I'm deliberating on the same issue right now and I really want the best online experience for my next gen fighting console. Hoping DSL can bring warriors closer together without having to leave the little kids and misses at home.
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I'm guessing the stick is the determining factor, seeing as he already has a PS2 stick which can be used on a PS3 with a ps2 to pc adapter. Tournament standard will most likely remain PS3 due to the fact that many tournaments already use it to run Tekken DR.
XBL will most likely be better for the online component if Super Turbo HD is any indication.
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seeing as he has that nice tv
maybe hes thinking of bd goodness
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If anyone has played the Street Fighter Turbo HD Remix on Xbox Live, they will tell you that it runs FLAWLESS, no LAG! NONE!
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On PS3 it is quite the opposite...
seeing as he has that nice tv
maybe hes thinking of bd goodness
that too