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Off Topic => Projects and Charity Work => Topic started by: W1nTry on May 07, 2007, 11:55:31 AM
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Inspired by Apprentice' PS3 Folding @ home thread, GATT has officially created a Folding @ Home team and we hope to encourage as many GATTers whom own PCs, Mac, PS3s etc to join in on the efforts being made around the world with Folding @ Home project headed by Stanford Univ. Its one of if not THE largest distributed computer network who's sole purpose is to take over the world... ok that's not true, its actually all to do with Protein folding and research into different types of diseases. Visit there home page at: FOLDING @ HOME (http://folding.stanford.edu/) for more information.
If you are already familiar with the collective effort and you are a member of GATT, our team ID is 71093
So please, join the effort of thousands even if your PC isn't that powerful, every little helps. Also if there are any questions related to the application, please refer to the site or if more specifically questions regarding F@H and GATT feel free to post here. We hope to see you out in your virtual numbers!
[Edit]/me added Sig Image for Team Stats
Link for Team Stats: http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=71093 (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=71093)
(http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/sigs/sigimage.php?t=71093) (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=71093)
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:) yay more crunchies out there
hope to see all the c2ds in gatt aiding the project!!!
all the yonahs as well.
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And the A64s, X2s, Athlons, Durons, PIIIs, Celeries, etc. Basically as much help as can be mustered cause EVERY LITTLE HELPS!!!
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Hmmm...
I will join up on that team ID with my PS3 and see if it works...
Work Unit Tally for me thus far = 7WU (under another team :( )
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I have 2 machines in the group atm. My Desktop @ home and my work laptop.
Thats X2 and Yonah. Will consider my other laptop (another Yonah) as its there.
OH PS the resized GATT Logo to use in your F@H display is:
(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1960/gattsmallpj0.jpg)
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4831/gattii8.gif)
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Could everyone on GATT contributing to this effort please put up some kind of stat? like how many PC/PS3 you have working atm? I have a total of 4 PCs working on F@H at present. Crixx? Apprentice? anyone else?
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I haven't gotten time to join the GATT team yet...
So I'll let ya'll know when I do...
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just checked my stats
ive contributed 9 WUs so far ^_^ go northwood yayyyy.
gonna make the switch to the gatt team now.
too bad i cant carry over my WUs to the team, we looking poor with only one WU to our name so far, come on ps3s do you duty
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Well i've completed around 12WU to date... 2 of which weren't under the GATT team. Of the 8 or so registered completed WUs... 2-3 ARE NOT BEING SENT TO THE work servers for some reason. So though our teams should read about 6 or 7WU completed, its more like 10WU completed by myself off of 7 cores :lol: 12WUs in under 2 weeks ain't half bad.
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Hey, it doesnt show my WUs under the gatt team.. :(
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Has it registered in the logs that the WU was sucessfully uploaded to the work server? i've had 2 WUs so far unable to send. Also sometimes it take a while to register even though the logs say it was sent. So don't get alarmed yet. I will give it another day or 2 to send those 2 WUs that refuse to send. Failing which I wil post something on the F@H forum board.
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Crixx, if you're using the GUI client or console client make sure (if you're running WinXP and IE7) that you UNcheck the 'use internet explorer settings' checkbox. Even on IE6, I would suggest trying that. I did so on mine and i'm up to the correct # of WUs for GATT team now 9 :D
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13 WUs and counting!!!! come on ppl, where the support???
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i used to fold awhile ago.... probably look into getting into it again
addendum : currant work unit is taking 83 days to finish , so don't expect any contributions in the short term.. they really hitting the core 2 duos hard.
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i used to fold awhile ago.... probably look into getting into it again
addendum : currant work unit is taking 83 days to finish , so don't expect any contributions in the short term.. they really hitting the core 2 duos hard.
Nah, it only says that. Leave it be and you'll see it'll finish faster than you think. Cause if I can fold on a 4400 X2 in about 1-2 days or rather 3 nights, then Core 2 is NOT supposed to STICK like that. Tweak the settings a bit. Which client are you using? set utilization to 100%. It says 100% but it will ONLY use 100% IF its available. Thus not SLOWING other apps. That's why its priority in the task manager is never higher than low/normal.
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it went down to 30 hours after awhile.. probably just a minor bug , probably will use a second install of it to use the second core so i can be pushing out 2 every few days .
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I use either 2 console versions or a GUI + console version. The SMP version for windows is still in BETA and thus I wouldn't recommend it. If you want to utilize the 2nd core you need to run a console version and MOST IMPORTANTLY set the Machine ID to 2 or higher as the first one you install unless explicitly set otherwise will be have a Machine ID of 1. I actually have it running on a server @ work with 4 cores. It's running 4 copies of the console app with IDs 1,2,3,4. So expect my WU count to keep rising ppl!!! that aside WHERE ARE ALL THE OTHER multicore ppl on gatt that could be helping darnit!!! 17WUs and counting at the time of this post!!!
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my wus still not showing up under gatt team :(
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???? hmm... check the F@H FAQ... what do your logs say? post em here so we can analyze and try to sort this out...
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bahh logg file have more than 20k characters
basicallly last 4 entries in log file say that its working for the gatt team
but its not reflected on the F@H site..grr and when i check my stats it doesnt show my new work
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well I was reffering to the part of the log related to your latest WUs.... in particular the logs involving the sending of data to the F@H receive server...or perhaps what does your queue have in it? if the completed WUs are still in the queue then its sending issues... the queue should only have the units ur working on so 1 entry.
Woi I see Trinimc on the Gatt F@H team now. See I told you it wouldn't take that long
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20 WUs and counting b1atches!!!
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what about getting some of the GLs in on it? The machines that just surf all day could be put to good use , and some of the newer ones for gaming are dual core , could fold and run all the games just fine .
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Well that would be nice, but I think as with most GLs power consumption is already a concern. To have your machines running at full load for the day would prolly add up in the longer run. On the F@H site there is an estimate of how much power a system would generate. Its not actually that much (depending on the rig in question) but a GL would have serveral such machines running and it would prolly become costly over time. Still 1 or 2 machines running it couldn't hurt imho. Let's see if anyone bites... 26WUs and counting :)
-> Errr... atm the site is saying I have folded 66 WUs :awesome: but somehow something is wrong with that number... 30 at least.. but 65??? like whoa...
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Ok just signed up folding@home with gatt ill put it on anytime i can :D. My pc would sux with it so im using ps3 :D.
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Ok just signed up folding@home with gatt ill put it on anytime i can :D. My pc would sux with it so im using ps3 :D.
I wouldn't put it like that. I have an old P3 650MHz that I also use for F@H. You have to remember that the benchmark for F@H will calculate a timeframe based on the system. So even if its SLOW like molasses.. it's still helping ultimately. So I say go on and add you PC to the fray as well. Every little helps. PS Welcome to GATT Folding @ Home. We hope to see that PS3 cranking out the WUs.
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I just get my first workin unit but it aint register yet and damn W1nTry u have 80+ units lmao, with my 1 unit we gonna have 100 now :). Oh and i use same internet connection for ps3 and pc so, if i have to chose 1 ill go with ps3 it should get units faster than pc.
Update: Ok my 1 WU show up so Gatt have 100 WUs ;D
Update: Second unit finished i dont think it registered yet.
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Ok have 4 WUs now tried to hook up my pc but.... it looks like my pc wont work hehe... lets just say the finish date was a long time from now pretty sure past deadline.
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yay now in second place :D watch out W1nTry im gonna pass u :D
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Hmmmm those ps3's are folding monsters. When the hell are Nvidia and Stanford gonna get their $hit together and relese a GPU folding client for Nvidia gpu's
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yay now in second place :D watch out W1nTry im gonna pass u :D
If I really make a concerted effort to not allow that, i'll leave you in the dust... but since that doesn't matter to me all that much, by all means take lead (if you can ;-) it's all for the greater good either way.
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You see in my case, I don't set the ps3 to fold all that much..but when I do its under another team.. :(
and thats already at 12units...
So to switch to the GATT Team I'll lose those units... :( :(
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Nah man, join the effort, everyone else has had at least 1 unit under a different team/name and we started it under GATT. Your PS3 should chew through those WUs in no time. You could leave it to fold @ night, not even every night and I am sure you'll wrack back up those WUs in no time. I don't have a PS3 to fold, but what I lack in sheer processing power, I make up for in numbers :) I have about 11 cores at my disposal to fold @ present. Some faster than others.
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lol dude..you got 94 work units!
Yea well... I'll hopefully join in soon...
Iz just that my ps3 not directly connected to the net at all times.. + it far from my router for wireless...
and next i getting problems with the cable to the ps3 when connected to the router to share the connection.
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Hmm... well you don't need to be online to fold, just to download new workloads and upload completed ones... as for that cable... its' just a cat5 cable so a simple replacement should be easy to find no?
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Its a super long one I bought cuz the ps3 is 80+ feet from router (i.e. through rooms etc..lol)
I analysed the problem and realised that I originially configure the cable for pc to pc use...
In the case of the PS3 its router to PS3 thus I got some RJ-45 connectors and reconfigured the cable...
All i need now is the special tool to lock it in...and i shud be online...
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Crimp tool, that should be easy to find, I have one somewhere around.... otherwise there are converters, little junction boxes that change a straight to a cross over and vice versa... that might be a better way to go, that way you don't have to cut off the end you already crimped.
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lol..I done cut the ends.. They just waiting to be crimped...
My dad had one of them but it missing :(
(and yes i still looking for it..lol)
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using cat 6 for that length i hope.
attentuation is a beach
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80 ft ain't squat crixx, cable runs of cat5e can go to 300ft before you really see attenuation. 100m is the range limit so 80 ft is WAYS below tolerance.
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yea no notice of attenuation here on the CAT-5..
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I started using the GPU agent for F@H so I coming fuh allyuh PS3 men! well not really, but I realize the workloads for the GPU client are MUCH LARGER than the CPU client... and it does it in the same if not less time... ate up 10000000 in under 6hrs... as opposed to 4mil which is the usual size for the CPU client and that takes me a day or two depending on how long the PC on.... so yeah :) I coming fuh allyuh!
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lol you doe need to come after we at all..
ent you have like over 90 something work units?? :P
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yeah i told him i was gonna pass him >.< doesnt look that way anymore but if it continued at the pace it was goin before id have passed him.
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yeah i told him i was gonna pass him >.< doesnt look that way anymore but if it continued at the pace it was goin before id have passed him.
Well by all means try :-p ohh 102 btw... But the thing is alot of my WUs don't go to completion. That's why the # is so high. Now that's not to say that it ended short as it could be the end of the simulation (at least that's the msg it gives) so inspite of my high WU count, alot were incomplete, hence in terms of points awarded your 20 or so off WUs have more than 50% worth. I am not sure why so many don't complete or for that matter the weighting of the WUs. If you notice Trinimc 20WUs are worth 50% of urs (cannon) thus its safe to presume the PS3 takes the larger WUs probably akin to the GPU client. We'll see as soon as my GPU finishes it's first unit sucessfully.
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just signed up... running arredy :mellow:
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Welcome aboard!!! that 6000+ should churn out WUs every 3/4 of a day I recon... or at least 2 a day... 3Ghz x2.... I think my CPU @ 2.5GHz churns them out at about 1 every 1.5 days... and meh GPU 1 per day... so ur processor should be a nice addition to gatt. We done into the TOP 10k pplz!!! YAY!!!
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Yay 200wu's and people are signing up. Nice.
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Good stuff, we're up to 6 members I think, keep em coming ppl! it'd be nice to see us in the top 1000 someday... I eh even bothering to say top 100 cause dread... if yuh look at THEIR WU count... its RIDICULOUS... teams in the MILLIONS of WUs... and we talking 10s... no 100S of Millions...
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Hey Bloodwar I see yuh was making some serious strides to catch up with meh... so I had to maintain meh distance ahead :) but by all means keep up the effort and convince ur fellow PS3 owners to join the ranks!
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lol i stopped folding for about 2-3 weeks so im folding alot more now :P besides all the good games coming out later this year and early next year so i wont be playin much till then.
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That would explain why its difficult to maintain my 4000 pt lead :awesome: lol well BRING it ON I say!!! lol
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We're in the top 5000 ppl!!! 4982 of 75600... if we had MORE PPL, i'm sure we could make a top 2000.... what's up with greygoose? he eh fold a single WU yet?
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yeah i was watching that my bro playin online alot lately so i hardly gettin to fold now though :) keep up the good work W1nTry
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posting this from my moms new dell inspiron e1705
using wireless from two rooms away on our brand new linksys wireless n router
router works really well and so does laptop now that ive done some more anti vista tweaking.
added the f@h on this machine
should add some more points to our WU total.
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who is greygoose ? did he just join and leave?
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that's what i was thinking XD, i was like did he sort've steal my name or something?
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Greyfox only 1 unit still? anyway Hooray i cross the 100 marker im now 3 digits :D i feel charitable lmao.
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well gray goose is a brand of canadian vodka ... dont think it has anything to do with that stupid mgs game
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I see a well known AMD hater who shall remain unnamed has joined the GATT f@h ranks. Your wu every two days will add to the score nicely :lol:
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i think i see who u mean lol.
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LOL, actually he's tried to add to the score a long time now but for some reason it wasn't working... prolly an intel P4 thing... :p that aside the more the merrier... its getting harder to keep ahead of Bood... but I will see how best I can :p
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well gray goose is a brand of canadian vodka ... dont think it has anything to do with that stupid mgs game
I wasn't referring to MGS at all...I was talking about my name. You seemed a lil jumpy there ,Have a drink.
Blood war you know I must be doing some damn wrong since I sometimes leave that thing on like 5 hours straight and there's no change.
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PS3 Folding@home Update
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1204/1187811090_9737abcddc_o.jpg)
We are all very excited here for the release of the new Folding@home (FAH) client for the PS3! This latest update addresses issues in two major areas: user requests and improving the accuracy of the core that we have running on the SPU. In addition, we totally revised the rendering engine for the molecules and added a more sophisticated display format, which is closer to the imagery you find in biology textbooks. This actually required a protocol change and the protein needs to be described in much more detail from Stanford University’s side of things.
We’re lucky to have a very dedicated group of FAH users and many of you have submitted requests, and ideas, for improving the application. While it’s challenging to address every issue raised, we did try to address your burning ones, especially those that interfere with the science or slow down the performance of the PS3 computation network.
Another really cool feature that was also requested by the FAH community is the support of PSP Remote Play. In this latest version we enabled this feature so you can now access FAH remotely from your PSP (that you already own, since it’s such a cool little gadget) which is an awesome combination since the CELL processor is actually doing the Folding job, but the PSP fully controls the UI so you can carry it around with you.
Of course, we still kept all the familiar and useful features of previous versions, such as the IP lights and Multilanguage support for all PS3 supported languages.
It is heart-warming to watch the community rally behind this project - this passion is in turn encouraging us to continue to look for ways to make it better.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/08/21/foldinghome-update-2/
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it takes 8hrs to complete a unit fox.
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it doesnt have to take that long
my problem at first was that i opted to take on WUs larger than 5mbs
and when they see yu have bw they give yu realllyyyy big projects lol thats whats happening on my moms lappy too.
at first the lappy cranked thru a bunch then when i set that option, it took into account teh c2d and bw and now all the wus have over 2000 parts but ive sat and watched the c2d just blaze thru them
so watching it on a ps3 must be really cool.
thanks again ps3 people for contributing to the project.
unbelievable that it still didnt add my units from before! sayin i only have 1 unit done!
and its not counting the units i have done on my moms laptop wtf... grr
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pfft @ 2000 parts, my X1900XT chewing through those large units in 1-2 days depending on how long i leave the PC on... the GPU units are 25000 a pop, how do you think I manage to keep ahead of Blood? XD
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It's about time nvidia/stanford released a f@h client for nvidia gpu's, dont y'all think?
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on a ps3 it takes almost exactly 8hrs
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@W1ntry...
25,000 parts?
If i'm not mistaken ent on the PS3 bloodwar...we does do 399,999 parts??
O and to clear up why i not on Gatt Team yet is that if i do switch to the gatt team won't i lose all the work units i've done before???
ME:
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=TheApprentice
My Team: lol
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=59298
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@W1ntry...
25,000 parts?
25,000 is what shows, its actually 25,000,000 iterations :p
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Looks like its only a matter of days now before Blood overtakes me as the F@H leader of GATT...
*W1nTry looks on into the sunset....*
"it was a good run... but it seems my time has finally come.."
*W1nTry polishes his revolvers and saddles them in their holsters*
"I'm ready... to go out with one more fight..."
to be cont'd....
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on a ps3 it takes almost exactly 8hrs
Bloodwar...did u notice that our work loads have increased since the new update?
from 399,999
It gone to 750,000
And running @7hrs:30mins a unit..
Sweet :P
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I know lol since the update i Racing towards passing W1nTry lol cuz once i get a good game that will occupy me ( not warhawk ) ill be folding less lol.
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So Blood, you've been nipping at my heels for some time now... is the overtake taking longer than you expected? :) not without a fight my young padawan, not without a fight!
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WTF u know i wondering how de Azz i aint pass u lol u add some more pc's or something? lmao
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Lol i've been looking at y'all score...I thought vulcan would have overtaken W1n lonnnng time now hahaha just a "umph" to go again.
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I know that man put he pc on steroids
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yay I just crossed triple digits.
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Congratz :)
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Congrats on triple digits... as to how i've managed to stay ahead by the narrowest of margins... well I have my ways... shame I could have really been pumping out more units and given him some real headaches... but circumstances have disallowed me that luxury... either way its really is a matter of time, its alot of effort to stay in the lead and I guess it wouldn't hurt to hand over the reigns to some young 'blood' (pun intended). Time will tell...
*W1nTry walks away from thread smiling... guns still holstered*
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Lol if i take the lead it wont be for very long Warhawk is on its way lol :)
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Ohho... ah well
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aye
i was checking stats this morning and noticed on the front page, the map of active folding cpus
its america, england, some in france and the rest in the carribean!!!! including a dot where trinidad supposed to be!! yayz!! we on de map fellas!!
very sadly though, none in japan or china
what a massssiveee waste of potential crunchies :(
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^yes agreed....
Even on the PS3 there's no presence of Chinese PS3's running....
There's occasionall a dot or two I think...
Also in India :P
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Today has to be the closest blood has come to taking the lead.. I believe he will today...
*W1nTry pulls out his revolvers... 'this is it... the moment of truth' *
(http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/6465/fahzb5.th.jpg) (http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fahzb5.jpg)
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hey iam not second to last in points anymore w00t
wtf is with them increasing the frames to 5000?? omg!
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I think its more of an automatic thing, cause I have seen as low as 1500 and as high as 25000... when you can't relaibly finish WUs it will automatically downgrade the WU size. However once you sucessfully complete more and more units, the size may increase. My GPU get 25000 sized units (note this is in the thousands so its actually 25mil) whilst my CPU receives on avg 2500-5000 sized units.
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GG....
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/613/toocloseforcomfortwy2.th.jpg) (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=toocloseforcomfortwy2.jpg)
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Well although i wont stay ahead for long it feels good to be #1 for a lil while lol :).
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Well although i wont stay ahead for long it feels good to be #1 for a lil while lol :).
Ah well, didn't last the night...
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9981/ahwellak1.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ahwellak1.jpg)
But I am sure you'll take it again during the day since I fold mainly at night which limits me.
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But I am sure you'll take it again during the day since I fold mainly at night which limits me.
o_o So you know what that means...no more COD in the night just fold like mad :lol:
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And let you continue to run amuck? NEVER!!! doubt i'll be on later though, liming most likely so folding away anys :p I definitely need some practice, the whole console controller to PC thing is almost like a culture shock atm... I need to get back in practice!!! cyah have yuh pwning everyone by the margins we saw last night lol!
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:( everytime i find a good match in COD3 it disconects me with about 10 mins left :( COD3 interface on ps3 sux but its gameplay is so fun waaaaaah.
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I honestly prefer COD2 on Live to COD3 on live, COD3 is faster and more hectic... a lil too fast for me on a controller... on a PC sure... controller... errr... either way meh 2nd 360 RROD so PC ftw... oh btw Blood... congrats on making it to #1 folder at GATT... for a few hrs anys. We'll see how you fair over the next few days since i've got some new tricks up my sleeve :)
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Aye blood, I find yuh folding slow down. What game yuh sweating so?
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*cough* Warhawk *cough*
:crybaby2:
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Warhawk nonestop i havent folded in a while lol.
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Seems like you folded a bit recently though cause I was REALLY close to hitting yuh a 10k pt difference :p ah well
Ah well :happy0203:
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5622/foldingkb3.th.jpg) (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foldingkb3.jpg)
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Err... only 200k PCs?
PS3s boost Folding@home to a petaflop
Claims to advance medical research by 10 years
By INQUIRER newsdesk: Thursday 20 September 2007, 14:07
Click here to find out more!
SONY ANNOUNCED today that PS3 gamers lending spare Cell processor CPU cycles to the Folding@home project have boosted it past the petaflop mark.
The Folding@home project is a distributed network of volunteer computer users who donate their idle CPU cycles to perform complex protein folding calculations. It's run by Stanford University and, according to its boffins, Folding@home works in support of cutting edge medical research aimed at gaining better understandings of diseases such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and some forms of cancer.
Until recently the Folding@home project had only about 200,000 PC users worldwide who together delivered about 250 teraflops of computing power. With Sony making it easy for PS3 console users to participate too, nearly 600,000 PS3 gamers have contributed significantly more processing power, lifting Folding@home's aggregate compute strength above one petaflop for the first time.
A "flop" is shorthand for one floating-point calculation per second. A megaflop is a million of those, a gigaflop 1,000 megaflops, a teraflop 1,000 gigaflops, and a petaflop 1,000 teraflops, or one quadrillion calculations per second.
The Folding@home project leader, Vijay Pande, Associate Professor of Chemistry at Stanford, said "Thanks to PS3, we are now essentially able to fast-forward several aspects of our research by a decade, which will greatly help us make more discoveries and advancements in our studies of several different diseases. "
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Well ppl we're in the top 3k NOW!!! pat yourselves on the back and continue to fold away!
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Yes i've noticed that we're sub 3k!! If e keep going like this, we could be in the top 1000 in no time!
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The real aim is the top 100... but well that is a pretty LARGE goal.. but if we can encourage more GATTers to fold then it can become a reality. Why don't you PS3 owners encourage your brethren and I can't understand why more ppl with kick @$$ rigs haven't gotten into the motions yet... them men who real bragging in the benchmark thread!
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Hmmm for real. Men with quad core and ting. Even the dual core people. Sticking I tells yah.
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Hmmm, can I install this behind a corporate firewall?
If yes, then I've got at least 100 PC's I can install it on...
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sounds good voidy hole try eeet
i just haxzored us our first very own server runnin f@h for our team!! YAYZ!! ^_^
its dual xeon e5310 @1.60 ghz and 2 gigs of ram
i recently moved next to two schools that have labs as well, but alas no net access there as yet so i cant dark archon them yet ^_^
ill let it run over the weekend and see how it contributes to my stats and ours
edit...
damn,just thought about the fact that id probably have to stay logged in to the server for f@h to run as its not a service... crap...
oh well, its not like its a personal logon, one generic logon so it shoulndt be an issue to stay logged in.
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It can run behind a firewall provided port 8080 is open to OUTGOING connections. As for crixxx I would advise you to run it as a scheduled task, that way regardless of the account logged in at any particular time, it will run as a service (according to the account you use for the schedule) and you won't have to worry about it running during peak hours as you can schedule it for the evening/night periods).
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will do when i head back there monday or so
left the account logged in, no one but us has access to it for the time so its no biggy as yet
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It can run behind a firewall provided port 8080 is open to OUTGOING connections. As for crixxx I would advise you to run it as a scheduled task, that way regardless of the account logged in at any particular time, it will run as a service (according to the account you use for the schedule) and you won't have to worry about it running during peak hours as you can schedule it for the evening/night periods).
As a scheduled task you say? Rather than the service idea... cuz I was actually considering that one.
I read that I needed to go to each pc and dl a copy directly as each client will have it's own MachineID number (http://folding.stanford.edu/console-userguide.html)
Is this for real? Then it'll take a while to get all 100+ PC's set up.
I found these instructions for the Run As Service idea here (http://www.overclock.net/faqs/21059-how-run-folding-home-console-service.html)
I also read about using the screen saver instead of the console version, and setting it to like a 1 minute timeout and to run when no one's using the PC. How does that sound W1nTry, Crixx?
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For any multi-core machine, you have to change the machine ID of the second console instance to 1 if the first is set to 0, or 2 if the first is set to 1 and so on. On single core machines, there's no such hastle. You can set the instances to "below normal priority", therefore, if the machine is being used, only extra unused resources are used to fold and performance is virtually unaffected. Personally, I find the GUI version folds slower than its console bretherin, and also, it cant utilize multiple cores like the console can.
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crap i forgot about the machine ids damn
omg i just saw baby spice in an ad for prego spaghetti sauce....
saying that even a former spice girl cant find any more spice to ad to the sauce....
wow, how the mighty have fallen..
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You can run both the console and client versions as a service, however I suggest that you use the console version and as opposed to running under utilized, schedule it for off hours and run it at 100% with a minimum of 256MB of ram dedicated to EACH client run. As for having to download a different client, the simple answer is NO. All you need to do is download it ONCE and make as many copies as you intend to use, please EACH FAH copy in a SEPARATE FOLDER. Then in the initial setup for each client, simply set the Machine ID on each client different 1,2,3, etc. Just a point to note, when you use the windows scheduler to run the app, you may not even see the console, but just the 100% cpu utitization. That's why I say, its a safe bet to run it using the scheduler and just set the duration it should run.
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Okay, so let me get this straight, I can download the client on my laptop, then while installing it on each of the lab pc's I have to specify a different Machine ID
That's a bit of a pain, I was hoping to add it to the image we deploy, so that it's there everytime we do a lab deployment...
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No No No... the machine ID ONLY refers to the machine itself... meaning if I had a QUAD core machine I could run 4 instances of the program, the 1st client would be Machine ID:1. The 2nd instance would be Machine ID:2, etc. The machine ID refers to a SINGLE machine... as such if you had a LAB with a SINGLE instance running on EACH machine, they would ALL have the same Machine ID:1. If you ran 2 instances on EACH machine, EACH machine would have a machine ID1 AND 2. I hope that clears it up. Also the first time you run the client most of the options are default, it takes all of 1 minute to set up a client IF that much.
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I've already resigned myself to doing it on each machine, will try to recruit some help though
I'll run the install manually, so that I can set the options one time...
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So it seems we have another PS3 folder!!! good stuff, but may I ask.. who the HECK is it? please feel free to identify yourself! also aye bloodwar.... if yuh eh realize... I close to 20k over yuh score :)
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So it seems we have another PS3 folder!!! good stuff, but may I ask.. who the HECK is it? please feel free to identify yourself! also aye bloodwar.... if yuh eh realize... I close to 20k over yuh score :)
Whatever made you think its a PS3 doing the folding??? :lol:
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Stanford team finds blood test to help identify Alzheimer's disease
A breakthrough no doubt aided by the folding effort...
(10-14) 10:16 PDT Stanford - -- Researchers at Stanford University have developed a potentially pathbreaking blood test that, according to preliminary studies, is able to identify patients with Alzheimer's disease - an ailment that has been notoriously difficult to diagnose.
The test has also shown promise in predicting which patients with mild memory loss are at high risk of developing the dreaded syndrome, which kills 66,000 Americans each year and inflicts incalculable heartache on the families of its victims.
Scientists have been working for years without success to develop a simple way to diagnose Alzheimer's disease, a degenerative brain disease that saps memory, sows confusion and will eventually kill patients who may have lost the ability to speak, walk or swallow.
In a paper published Sunday in the online edition of the British journal Nature Medicine, a team of scientists led by Stanford neurology Professor Tony Wyss-Coray describe a unique method that can spot Alzheimer's patients by screening for a set of 18 chemical signals that consistently turn up in the blood of people suffering from the disease.
The 18 different molecules are drawn from a phrase book of chemical chatter that occurs among cells in the body. Together, they present a pattern that with surprising consistency appears in the blood of Alzheimer's patients.
"These are signaling proteins that cells use to communicate with each other," Wyss-Coray explained. "Our idea was to ask, 'What are the most important proteins we could find in Alzheimer's patients?' "
The Stanford professor and his team screened 120 such proteins that commonly circulate in the blood and settled on 18 that showed the signature of Alzheimer's. Using existing laboratory technology, they developed a test that will light up when the 18 molecules are present in a blood sample.
In one experiment using stored blood samples, the test was positive for Alzheimer's disease in 38 out of 42 patients who had been independently diagnosed by clinicians as having the disease - a 90 percent accuracy rate. It also classified as non-Alzheimer's disease 34 out of 39 who did not have the illness, but nevertheless suffered from other dementias or mild cognitive impairments - 87 percent accuracy.
More intriguing is a test that examined stored blood samples and predicted Alzheimer's disease in 20 of 22 patients who developed the disease two to five years later. Eight patients who subsequently developed other forms of dementia were correctly diagnosed as non-Alzheimer's.
Although the studies were small in scale, researchers said the experiment proves that the concept of screening for chemical signals is promising and that the first Alzheimer's blood test might be within reach after further large-scale studies.
"I do see great potential in this technology," said UCSF professor Dr. Lennart Mucke, director of the Gladstone Institute of Neurological Disease. "This study shows that the chemical fingerprint found in the blood of these patients was pretty reliable. It could be a terrific addition to our diagnostic toolbox."
Mucke acknowledged that there are very few medical treatments for patients once they are diagnosed with Alzheimer's. But he said a test showing the likelihood that the disease will develop would help patients and family members prepare for what lies ahead.
"I'm personally a proponent of knowing what is ahead. It is important for us to increase the number of people who realize they are at risk and can still speak out for themselves," he said.
Mucke has no financial interest in the technology, although Wyss-Coray trained in his laboratory.
The test initially will be used in research labs, where scientists are trying to learn more about the memory-wasting disease that is one of the most feared consequences of aging. An estimated 4.5 million people in the United States are living with the disease.
Wyss-Coray has founded Satoris Inc., a small company headquartered at the UCSF campus in Mission Bay, to commercialize the technology. He said it will take at least two years and additional studies before such a test might reach clinics around the country.
Dr. Jerome Goldstein, director of the San Francisco Alzheimer's and Dementia Clinic, said there are very few objective tests to diagnose Alzheimer's disease, and most of them are complex and expensive. MRI scans, for example, can detect shrinkages in parts of the brain targeted by the disease.
Goldstein's clinic is involved in other experimental tests, such as one to detect ApoE, a protein implicated in Alzheimer's disease, as well as other uses of MRI and PET scans. While much of the scientific work, including that at Stanford, is promising, Goldstein said all the technologies are a long way from being available in clinics.
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Men falling behind in the folding, what going on? I nearly 30k above meh closest competition :)
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hey iam not last or even second to last no more w00t
hey more good news
seems like our team score move up by about 300 points of late!!
alright guys gj
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Oh GG I am over 25K ahead of the next guy... what going on apprentice?
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hehe.... I did a unit on my desktop under the GATT team....
Takes pretty long....
Soon my PS3 will join in don;t worry...
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Like nobody else but me folding. Every single person on the team just there for the last few weeks.
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That ain't true, my lead is steadily growing :p and to his credit crixxx has been moving up the food chain. I wish I could remove that vodka guy since he ain't done squat and well... some ppl seem to have stuck... prolly just cause of gaming etc, either way we're in the top 2600 now.. my real aim is sub 100 but that will take time. Either way keep up the work those who are and to those that are sticking, a few CPU cycles couldn't hurt.
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yup iam a rising star baby!!!
churning away i over took like 4 people and now iam biting at trinis heals!
ill figure out a way to get 2 more prcoessors doing my bidding soon enuff
i keep having to take the dsl off the school servers so bleh but i have a plan for one in patna
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I'm up to 200wu's now taking me into 2nd place and hopefully catching up to the person in 1st place. Also bringing up the 1000wu mark. 1/5 of the entire team's units...not bad. Keep it up pple.
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I'm up to 200wu's now taking me into 2nd place and hopefully catching up to the person in 1st place.
:) one can aspire can he not lol! good job ppl, I really do want to see the 100k mark personally and the 1mil mark for gatt!
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100K B1ATCHES!!!
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2116/100khc8.th.jpg) (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=100khc8.jpg)
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^Dude Congrats on the major milestone!!!
I'm a longs wayz off...lol
Here's my status under my own team + Gatt
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=TheApprentice
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I wonder if I can fold and crunch wgc at the same time?
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I'm not sure what "wgc" is, but yeah, you can do both at once.
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Auto shutdown of the system as well as playing of music in the background!
These are incredible additions for the PS3 -
More info here:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/12/18/new-foldinghome-features-coming/
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Ok I am almost wondering if this is in the right thread... sure its a FAH thing... but seems more like a PS3 thing since its not really additions to the folding process itself... but as its here question: Doesn't the PS3 have a auto-shutdown feature normally? and can't it play music in the background even when playing games?
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I get flustered and didn't know where to put it...
Too much threads for that post...lol
As for in game music... Not yet unfortunately...
Its coming Sony says..lol
and Auto Shut Down...nope...
F@h is the first hint at that feature coming...
But so far there was no reason to leave the ps3 on, other than for folding...hence it being implemented there...
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Hmm well the only reason I asked is because the Xbox can play music from a media connected PC, or the HD even when playing a game. It can be used to stream video, pics, music from a PC on your LAN as well. Also it has a built in shutdown feature in case yuh downloading content and its taking a while (as it does on our slow connections) or if yuh run out de house and leave it on, which is also a possibility. But that's enough bigging up the 360 XD I am surprised the PS3 didn't SHIP with those features.. considering it generates heat like a nuclear reactor... O_O
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considering it generates heat like a nuclear reactor... O_O
and kills 360's :D
The heat ain't that bad... If I leave my system on over night downloading, no AC just, a warm room...It still runs cool..
When folding though, it blows out some really hot air... but no red ring of death :happy0203:
lol...PS3 also can stream media from PC over a LAN... wireless and wired...
Use it all the time :mellow:
The lack of in game music is sad...a few titles do allow it thus far...
But Sony plans to integrate the "XMB" menu into the games, thus leading to in game music...Its ocming...it just not hear yet...
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Here's a really good site for our F@H stats, whats even better is that it remains up EVEN when the actual F@H servers are updating. What's really cool about this site is that it gives graphical information about our statistics, like who's our closest competitor above and below us, a projected workload graph and other cool stats, have a look:
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=71093 (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=71093)
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We're in the top 2000 PPLS!!!! I JES check and low and bhold we're 2000!!!
The proof:
(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3103/gatt2000tm9.th.png) (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gatt2000tm9.png)
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way, and w1ntry you leading the pack! good form.
Top 2000 is quite a mc achievement given the number of teams participating.
I'll throw in a few of my home PCs to the fray (installed the client on one, wu immc)
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great job guys
sub 2000 now
1991
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lol, I now check w1ntry stats, dat mc have 13 machines on the case.
wtmc??? You send it out like a virus across the net or what??
I could imagine it now....
W1ntry: Aye, check out this pic of shakira in the buff (Initiates transfer of file "omg-shakira-in-the-buff.jpg.iymc.exe")
Nooblet: (clicks file....) amm...nothing happened....wtmc?
W1ntry: dsi
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lol@ .iymc.
It dont bound to be 13 machines. It could be 13 cores.
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How long it takes to do a unit? My stats showin a big fat zero and I seeing some ridiculous end times all in February, lol
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ROFLMAO @ n00b comments... I get a good laugh dere oui! actually neither capt nor n00b wrong/right I have more than 1 machine to be sure, but most are multi-core systems. The fastest folder is actually my own personal PC courtesy of my X1900XT which folds a larger unit than even the PS3 in less time than the fastest dual core 2 (to the best of my knowledge anys). So in a sense its 13 cores... but its multiple machines.
As for your question n00b, that depends... it really depends on how you set up the folding agent. If its the CPU agent (which presumably it is) and if your system is not dual core, then chances are also that you didn't dedicate 100% to folding. Basically to fold fastest, its best to use the CONSOLE agent and set it to 100% at least 386MB of memory usage and set the priority higher than default. Also set the program to save progress ever 3-5 minutes in case you know you will be switching it on and off. If you have any more questions i'll be more than happy to answer em.
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lol
I just downloaded the mc, installed leaving all defaults in tact and setup name and team id.
will leave it alone for a week and see how that works out.
On this PC, I'm at 1350/5000 frames. Steady as she goes.
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Ummm, if you leave the team ID as default, you'll be folding as an individual. Join the group GATT effort by using team id 71093.
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Err capt I think he alluded to that... he said name and TEAM ID :p
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LOL all I saw was "leave all defaults". My bad.
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ah boy, I'm officially on the scoreboard now. (see attached)
Done have grey goose under manners, next stop...w1ntry.
muhahahahha
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ah boy, I'm officially on the scoreboard now. (see attached)
Done have grey goose under manners, next stop...w1ntry.
muhahahahha
ROFLMAO!
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Just blew pass PS3 to claim #10 spot.
Watch out W1ntry, nippin at your heals.....muha
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Just blew pass PS3 to claim #10 spot.
Watch out W1ntry, nippin at your heals.....muha
You and what army of cores? muhuhahaha!
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so thats yur secret winny?
your horde of machines are cores:?
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so thats yur secret winny?
your horde of machines are cores:?
tsk tsk crixx trying to guess my secret... nope, I was just reffering to CPU/GPU cores. My secret weapon is my ATI video card which folds faster than any Core 2, AMD or PS3 but I was reffering to the # of CORES running simultaneously. I have a mix of Xeon, AMD, Pentium, Intel Core and ATI CORES folding.
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well my excuse is for me to get internet on my ps3 i have to disconnect it from my pc and im too lazy to change the set up...
but i have a question, since folding@home started, has there been any 'breakthroughs' that all this folding is going towards?
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yeah, there has been me breakthrough-ing the ranks. lol
that silly PS3 never stood a chance, save the excuses.
As for w1ntry, let him laugh for now. I'm gonna find a few more "willing" PC participants to add to my folding horde. Might even port the client to my blackberry for some extra protein crunching oomph.
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well my excuse is for me to get internet on my ps3 i have to disconnect it from my pc and im too lazy to change the set up...
but i have a question, since folding@home started, has there been any 'breakthroughs' that all this folding is going towards?
Yup there have been some breakthroughs at Stanford, breakthroguhs leading to more specific research..
No cure for cancer yet if thats what you mena....
And get a switch or router, lol
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muhahahah, lihixxxxxxxxxx for Apprentice
another one bites the dust.
Looking at the stats, looks like just now we gonna break the 1900 barrier. Way to go team.
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You have angered my Playstation 3 :protest:
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We're in the top 1900 pplz!!! although I can't say for how long since the lower you go, the stiff the competition... all the same:
(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8343/fah1899vr7.th.jpg) (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fah1899vr7.jpg)
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100,000 points for me!!!! Keep it up people!!!
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n310/daaaknite/certphp.jpg)
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Good work, keep it up. Actually that's what I am posting about. I realized that our progress in the top 1900 is ROUGH at best. As it stands, we're ~ 1888 however there are 4 teams within striking distance and based on our avg daily WU turnover they'll pass us very soon... which means we're back down to 1890's if we wanna get into the top 1000 we gotta do more ppl! so here's my call to arms fellow GATTers!!! fold those units and let's move up the ranks! HOO RAH!!!
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Good work, keep it up. Actually that's what I am posting about. I realized that our progress in the top 1900 is ROUGH at best. As it stands, we're ~ 1888 however there are 4 teams within striking distance and based on our avg daily WU turnover they'll pass us very soon... which means we're back down to 1890's if we wanna get into the top 1000 we gotta do more ppl! so here's my call to arms fellow GATTers!!! fold those units and let's move up the ranks! HOO RAH!!!
I'll add my PS3 to the mix once I have my Internet hooked up hopefully TONIGHT!
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Good stuff, since you use it RARELY atm, you can let it fold 24x7 and really wrack up some points!
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we lookin sharp
nice work awesome
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w1ntry, time to stop slacking at the top.
your day of judgement draws closer and closer. Hold on to that ‘Beherit’ for dear life. Only the form of a demon may spare you from my wrath! (a lil too much berserk, lol)
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LMAO!!! i'll be in possession of the crimson behelith for quite some time to come !!!
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We've crossed the 1800 threshold ppl!
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3862/sub1800cw7.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sub1800cw7.jpg)
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yeah i added another server and two laptops to the fray
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guess what i did today??/
^_^ 2 latest folding @ home clients under my belt, courtesy of an education minister's laptop near you.
rofl kek
fellas, we in parliament now~~!!! woi woi woi
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lol, well done.
now looking at the stats there.
Team Ranking (incl. aggregate) 1746 of 115396
We looking well.
ah boy, now pass sadistic and nipping at TriniMc heels.
Soon w1n, soon you too shall fall.
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Soon w1n, soon you too shall fall.
LOL, well my secret weapon is not awaiting it's new build so my Folding won't progress as quickly anymore... however you have much to learn young padawan!
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Awesome job guys!!!
Joined the team
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Just a heads up, we've been in the top 1700 a while now, but I was waiting to ensure we weren't booted out overnight, 1688 ppls keep up the good work!!!
(http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/2839/gattfoldingathome1688nd7.th.jpg) (http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gattfoldingathome1688nd7.jpg)
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i have more WUs than the guy above me but less points :(
guess ill hadda start setting my machines to do harder WUs
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i have more WUs than the guy above me but less points :(
guess ill hadda start setting my machines to do harder WUs
Yup
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go team go!
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I say its about gaddamn time.
by Cyril Kowaliski — 6:00 AM on May 23, 2008
Stanford University has been releasing GPU clients for AMD graphics cards for some time now, and there's even a GPU2 client in the works (the beta is available here). Somewhat surprisingly, though, Stanford has yet to release a GPU client that can harness the computing power of Nvidia's latest and greatest graphics processors.
That will all change soon; according to PC Perspective, Folding@home project head Vijay Pande made an appearance at an Nvidia meeting in San Jose, California to show an Nvidia version of the GPU client. PC Per says the software was shown running on an unannounced Nvidia product, so details are sparse for the time being. However, the Nvidia-compatible client looks to be on the way regardless.
To learn more about folding, be sure to check out our distributed computing forum. As always, feel free to show your support for TR by folding for team 2630.
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/14783
And there is this...
GeForce GTX280 folds three times faster than Radeon HD 3870
Written by Andreas G 23 May 2008 09:24
GeForce GTX 280 is going to be a mighty beast. The GT200 core impressed us from the very beginning in matters of raw performance. Alas there have been little information on the real-life performance of the card, other than statements that it runs Crysis fine at certain settings and that it scores 7000 points in the Vantage Extreme profile. We've been provided some more solid information based on the performance in Stanford's Folding@Home client. A slide recently presented says that GeForce GTX 280 will be capable of folding slightly more than 500 mol/day, which is three times more than what Radeon HD 3870 can do, about 170 mol/day (according to the slide), or five times more than PlayStation 3; 100 mol/day.
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7777.html
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for real.. about time... about damn time... will finally have something for this 8800gt to do other than peong game...
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Not likely. They ONLY made mention of the up an coming GT2xx series. Which means the older cards are likely still out to pasture. Unlike AMD, whose' gpus have been very consistent in design and scaling since the dawn of the HD series and in fact were ALWAYS geared towards GPGPU applications, nvidia is geared towards gaming. The new GT series will be geared more towards GPGPU applications and hence why Stanford NOW took interest. That aside, I studying that they say teh GT280 is approx 3x more powerful, but keep in mind that there is the 3870X2 which means even with CURRENT TECH AMD is already 66% as powerful on a card that does even best a 9800GTX 100% so if we were to extrapolate... what will a HD4xxx series do? or even worse a HD4xxxX2?
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Well I guess you have to look at the percentage increase in folding power that each new generation of ati cards bring. Based on that, you'll have an idea what the next generation can do. Only then can a comparison be made to the alleged performance of the gtx280.
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Alright ppl, it's come to my attention that we're STUCK at around 1645-1650 in terms of rank on F@H. Our daily WU fluctuates QUITE alot and we've reached a stagnant point where our current rate won't get us much Higher. So this is a call to all GATTers, put those idle CPU cycles to better use, DLing nrop isn't everything, get the Folding client and start curing cancer XD or at least helping us get a higher daily work rate.
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Alright ppl, it's come to my attention that we're STUCK at around 1645-1650 in terms of rank on F@H. Our daily WU fluctuates QUITE alot and we've reached a stagnant point where our current rate won't get us much Higher. So this is a call to all GATTers, put those idle CPU cycles to better use, DLing nrop isn't everything, get the Folding client and start curing cancer XD or at least helping us get a higher daily work rate.
OK OK, I finally caved in, I have put my PS3 to work.... :P its not like its doing anything anyway....
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Good stuff!
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Added another core to the fray this morning. Win. We iz coming 4 ur skoor.
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n310/daaaknite/iisanonimuscacopy.jpg)
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WTF is up with the f@h client for Nvidia gpu's? I hearing about this thing ever since g80 came out, and here we are a nearly 2 years later and its still vapourware. When I put in my order for a new card, this fact will be a big factor in choosing. Come on man, how long does it take to develop a f@h client for your gpu?
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Hmm guys we're slipping.. we've not been able to break the 1600 barrier at all and now we've slipped to 1611 down from a high of 1604.... what a gwan?
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What ah gwan is that I eh get my hd4870 as yet. When I do, i'l blow past your score in a matter of weeks. Expect me.
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Umm, since that last update that Sony messed up on, I was not about to run an update and end up like Shiv...I waiting till they issue a good update before running the Folding app again... :P
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What ah gwan is that I eh get my hd4870 as yet. When I do, i'l blow past your score in a matter of weeks. Expect me.
Bring it on!
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So an ati/nvidia gpu client (http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3188) has been out since last month...didnt even realise that...anyway, its working...I think. Installed it this morning, seems to be running some sort of test so i'll see what happens when I get back from work.
If you haven't already, go and get it guys.
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thanks cap'n.. will test this ish out..
EDIT: installed, works, doing a test protein... FINALLY SOMETHING FOR MY 8800GT TO DO RATHER THAN SWEAT GAMEZZ.. :awesome:
EEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDIIITTTT!!!!!!!!: I JUST INSTALLED THE CUDA DRIVERS FROM NVIDIA, AND SON... DAMN... I'M FOLDING AT MUTHA CLUCKIN over 40 times the speed without the drivers, in other words.. PACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE... right now i'm moving at avg 2500 iter/sec and i saw with oc'ing i can get as much as 3000 iter/sec. damn i wonder how those ati cards will do... go 8800gt go!!!!
(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7035/cappd7.th.jpg) (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cappd7.jpg)
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the CUDA drivers, put those 8800gt's to use peoples..
http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_get.html
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...right now i'm moving at avg 2500 iter/sec and i saw with oc'ing i can get as much as 3000 iter/sec...
i smell a new bench scheme
and take chakra for that info on the CUDA
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i smell a new bench scheme
and take chakra for that info on the CUDA
i've been googling, and i see that this gpu client has indeed sparked a benching craze, PPD (POINTS PER DAY)..
currently i'm capable of 4507.83 PPD :happy0203:
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7328/ppdsk8.th.png) (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ppdsk8.png)
you'll have to use the FahMon (http://fahmon.net/) tool to measure your ppd, and don't open the display, since it takes 10% of your folding power (read that somewhere..lol)
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I still cant figure out how that fahmoon thing works...
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all you have to do is right click in the top blank area and select add a new client...
to add the gpu client, go to c:\documents and settings\*user*\application data\folding@homegpu
to add your regular client just browse to the folding@home folder in program files
that's it, it will monitor your client progress and tell you how much ppd you are doing, the points that the current WU is worth, etc..
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Ahhh got it. Thanks. So why is my ppd only 1277?
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Hey Philo you using the CUDA FAH agent on ur 8800GT at present?
If so since i've been bogged down lately, give a step-by-step installation for the rest of us. Which CUDA software we need to DL, what to install, where to get it, etc.
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how long does it take the server to show yo' name up on the team list?
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Once you've completed a WU you should be added to the list in a day's time. Make sure you joined the right team though XD 71093!!!
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Ok my ppd is up to 2261 and counting...
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Hey capn since you're running the Nvidia GPU folding app, give some pointers what we need to run it man. CUDA WHAT? FAH GPU client ver, etc....
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Once you've completed a WU you should be added to the list in a day's time. Make sure you joined the right team though XD 71093!!!
scene just add both ma cores and ma 88 to the mix
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All you need is to check my first post in the thread this morning for the client and the nvidia cuda driver that philo posted. The setup for the clinet is much like the cpu version so you've got no problems there. Also you can use fahmon to view the progress of your gou's folding.
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ok w1n, here's what i did..
1) i first downloaded the client that cap'n posted >>> http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/release/Folding@home-GPU-systray-612b6.msi (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/release/Folding@home-GPU-systray-612b6.msi)
2) I did some research and saw that gpu performance will suffer unless i install the CUDA supported display drivers from nVidia >>> http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_get.html (http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_get.html)
*all you have to do is download the CUDA drivers, the rest are for those who wanna develop CUDA appz*
3) After installing those, i saw that for the gpu2 FAH client to work the way it should, the core priority should be set to "Slightly Higher"
*found in the Folding@home client under preferences under the advanced tab*
4) Being all excited and shizz, i downloaded FahMon (http://fahmon.net/) to measure my PPD.
*note to captain, set you core priority to "Slightly Higher" to increase your PPD, you should be getting at least 3500*
there you go, i think that's all i did, hope it helps a bit.. :happy11:
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Arigato Phil. That being said, my run at the top has just been extended!!!! well... save that #2 will catch up once he gets a HD48xx card.. that could put me under some pressure XD
Study though... the 8800GT has 128 Stream processors... the HD48xx has 800 O_O ....
Also, did you use CUDA 1.1 or 2.0b ???
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Thanks for the tip philo, will check it out once I get home.
Yes w1n, be scared. Card has already left amazon. I should get it by Monday, weekend if i'm really lucky.
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2.0b, that's the only one that has support for the 8series cards, the older ones only support the newer cards
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Yes w1n, be scared. Card has already left amazon. I should get it by Monday, weekend if i'm really lucky.
Right... I was reffering to unknown since he's #2... ur WAY down in the pecking order young one XD Besides 4870 or not, i've got alot more than a single 8800GT up my sleeve!
@ Philo, yeah I figured since it said something to that effect on the nvidia site, thanks all the same though.
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who tell you the unknown getting a hd4870?
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wait wait wait...ent cap awe IS unknown??? we have another unknown...??? :S
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There are known knowns and unknown unknowns also unknown knowns and known unknowns but the unknown in question is known also as captain awesome.
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Hmm I coulda sworn I saw a captain on the list... i've been working hard these days... stress must be getting to me XD
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yea. There is a captain there, I was just trying to see if I could have changed my name from unknown to captain...but no luck. Is there any way I can do that?
BTW, is w1n self who changed my name so you know he's really out of it when he cant remember.
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hey do you guys accept work units larger than 5 for the cpu and 10 for the gpu or just leave them as is?
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I leave that setting default...well I used to when I used to use the gui client for cpu. W1n can confirm/deny.
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yo peeps, i'm like number 10 on the list now, this morning i had 20 work units, now i have what, freaking 24.. and my gpu client alone is running, holy smoke and stuff.. this thing is the shizznaatt
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This thing is strange. Philo, I did what you said about slightly higher priority.
Now the viewing window and fahmon itself gives two very different readings for my ppd. Yall getting that same thing?
Edit: Never mind. I'm mixing up ppd with iterations/sec. This thing is fast indeed. My ppd is currently 3900 and the client appears to take roughly 2.5 hours to fold a single unit. Eat yuh heart out dual core cpu!
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what you seeing in the viewing window, the ppd aint the same thing as the iter/sec...
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Yes, when using the GPU Unit taking in file sizes > 5MB ain't no scene. My GPU will join the fray momentarily b1tches!!!
And yes, i've been really stressed this past few weeks....
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I can't seem to get the FAHMON working.... i've used the help and still not found the file i'm supposed to use.... tiredness and stress... ppl hit meh a instructions. Bless
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you can drag and drop the client's folder into the window and it will just ask you to name it then it takes it from there..
I use the console client so for me it's a folder marked "core 1" and "core 2", just dragged those over and then entered the necessary names...
as for the gpu version you need to copy the link address from the shortcut...
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I had the same problem.
First enable view hidden files and folders, right click on the blank area on the left of fahmon and press add new client. Browse to c:\Documents and Settings\*your user name*\Application data\f@h gpu, give it a name and you're set.
This thing is really flying. My ppd is up to 4600 and within the space of 6 hours, 9.5 units were folded!! Pure pwnage.
I did some research and unfortunately, ati f@h performance is underwhelming on account of the client making use of 320 of the 800 stream processors...which is kinna dumb. I hope they fix this soon.
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But ur talking 320 Stream processors at 700-800MHz... it'll still wtfpwn anything Nvidia has >_<
Oh and I got it working :happy0203:
(http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8838/ppdlw9.jpg)
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In theory, yes, but real life performance does not reflect this.
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&p=34439
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DUDE!!!!... look where we're at in the space of a day... yesterday we were 1612 now we reach rank 1587... yooooo.. GO GPU'Z GO!!
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/teamstats/team71093.html
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Damn Phil beat me to it... I was gonna post that we cleared the 1600 with flying colours before I left home this morning... but well I guess I should have XD. GO GPUs GO!!! Capn, catching me now ain't gonna be THAT easy XD
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8 series and above only huh...mmmm
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I should have gpu folded for a week or so before saying anything...man wouldda wonder wtmc going on with me LOL.
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5047.02 PPD SON!!! :happy0203:
(http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1621/ppdbz0.th.jpg) (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ppdbz0.jpg)
shaders were at 1800mhz (yea i know, insanity)... carried them back down though, during every 10% the work stops due to an UNSTABLE_MACHINE error, lolz.. so back to default for the I.
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Whilst I was looking into the gpu client (prior to yall giving simple install instructs) I remember just passing over a topic of being careful with your video cards whilst folding as they are running at 100% utilization or at least close to. As a result the card generate alot of heat. They even went as far as to suggest only using 8800GTs with NON-Stock cooling solutions. So you single slot cooler 8800GT owners have yall checked the temp of ur cards whilst folding? I can say GPU-Z shows my GPU core at 60 and everything else below. Keeping in mind my card has a dual slot haet pipe cooling solution. What temps are you getting?
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my fan is at 85% and my temps for core are 66 everything else below 60..
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Ok so I did some reading and I am APPALLED at the POOR folding performance ofthe HD4xxx series.... those cards are MONSTERS by raw processing comparison. Goes to show, when software is NOT optimized for tech it SUCKS. Hope they sort out that problem and get the 800 Stream processors in the frey. As a side note, if you look at the Folding @ Home stats wrt types of clients and FLOPS, the GPU has 953 Teraflops from 8666 processors, vs. ANYTHING else be it windows, mac, PS3, etc.
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats)
GO GPU's!!! now all they have to get right is a console client and the ability to run mulitple GPU clients on the same machine. For those with SLI/Xfire.
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65deg @ 660 core and 90% fan speed.
I did say that the ppd performance of the 4870 was poor right? I must be loosing my mind.
But yeah, im certain that with he next drover release this will be fixed...hopefully. Just when im settling down to do some serious folding on my 8800, im getting rid of it so they better do something about the performance soon.
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Ok so I did some reading and I am APPALLED at the POOR folding performance ofthe HD4xxx series.... those cards are MONSTERS by raw processing comparison. Goes to show, when software is NOT optimized for tech it SUCKS. Hope they sort out that problem and get the 800 Stream processors in the frey. As a side note, if you look at the Folding @ Home stats wrt types of clients and FLOPS, the GPU has 953 Teraflops from 8666 processors, vs. ANYTHING else be it windows, mac, PS3, etc.
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats)
GO GPU's!!! now all they have to get right is a console client and the ability to run mulitple GPU clients on the same machine. For those with SLI/Xfire.
whats this??? ati drivers suckinggg @r$e @folding?? omg stop the presses
roflkek big news ati drivers are teh suckage
lololoolool
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Oh yeah poor ati. They beat nvidia sorely on price/performance with sucky drivers. Heaven forbid tey make some proper drivers :p
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it's not the driver dammit.. it's f@h fault, their old programming only allowed use of the 320 stream processors, and they're not using the full 800sp's in the hd48XX's.. and i think captain or w1n mentioned this. no fault of ATi.. read before you down the company.
so captain no need to defend ATi, and if they improve their drivers, yeah, god forbid it!!!!..lol
F@H's FAQ did say that they are working on this (the gpu2 is still in beta btw) and we may see soon 800sp's blazing the trail.
oh as a side note, current gpu clocks, stable btw :happy0203:
CORE: 675MHZ
MEM: 2000MHZ (effective)
SHADERS: 1700MHZ
CORE TEMP: 66 D.C
PPD: 4986.22
somebody say :awesome:
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temps...
anyone else getting troublems to run more than one console version of the client as a service?
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It shouldn't be a problem once you ensure that each client uses a different ID.
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yeah got it working, or rather to show it working...FAHMON was just sticking picking the 2nd core up was working all along...
on another note...those with the Nvidia GPU client who have OC'ed or pre-OC'ed cards. have any of you noticed a regular beeping noise?
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@ beeping noise, nope
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hmmm...it super faint i only noticed it when i took off the side fan today for a dusting as that is the major source of noise in my rig...
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I dont get a beeping, rather a continuous high pitched hiss. Happens when I put on a game too.
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I dont get a beeping, rather a continuous high pitched hiss. Happens when I put on a game too.
yeah i get that one too at 100% usage, it appears to be normal for the cards...they just so faint you real have to listen to hear it...
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Since the advent of 8800GT folding, GATT's score has SHOT UP rather exponentially. Here's where we stand atm:
(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7654/almost1400sea7.th.jpg) (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=almost1400sea7.jpg)
That's some 80 ranks in i'd say 4 days!!! GOOD JOB TEAM!!!
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... no 6800 support...
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... no 6800 support...
:laughing4:
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Time to upgrade, man. You have that card what? 4 years now?
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... no 6800 support...
:laughing4:
ROFL @ that smiley :P
Yea dred..Crixx....You really need a upgrade there...
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As of 11:23am 16-07-08 we stand upon the brink of 1500 :cowboy:
(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3748/1500vo3.th.jpg) (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1500vo3.jpg)
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Well due to TSTT SUCKAGE... I am out of commision ftw... at least on my folding tank aka 8800GT... so capt you got a chance to catch up XD. That being said however, our position has stagnated again.. we've been stuck at the 1490s since we got in and haven't been able to move up at all... my inactivity doesn't help but i'm SURE there are MORE 8800GTs and HD3xxx/4xxx out on gatt to add to the fray!
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So THAT's why i've been catching up to your WU count...
In case you didnt realise, im less than 100 units away from passing your azz, o u better pray that TSTT organises soon.
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So THAT's why i've been catching up to your WU count...
In case you didnt realise, im less than 100 units away from passing your azz, o u better pray that TSTT organises soon.
I've heard that before XD
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wow @ sub 1500
That's some amazing progress there. Real stellar effort.
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Well needless to say TSTT still are MCs and I still have NO INTERNET, so it seems capt you'll catch me proper this time XD
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Just curious, what are you guys folding on and what is your average ppd ?
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Folding with specs in avatar, ppd for gpu folding is on average 3600, cpu folding I use consoles.
btw...who say #1 folder on gatt *ahem w1n pwnt! ahem*
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i fold with my 8800gt solely now, and i get an average of 4800ppd. but i hardly run the program, and my pc's only on when i use it... so i'm kinda behind
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how do i join ? gatt on f@H
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just go to http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download ... download a client(console client recommended).. looking at your rig, not sure if you will benifit from the gpu client or the cpu client though..
once you download it, go to settings and enter the gatt team number 71093
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IMO I think it's a mistake not using the smp client for those with multiple core cpus. With my Q6600 at stock with the new a2 core i get 4200 ppd from it alone. About 1600 ppd on my E8400 which is running the old a1 core due it only having 512mb ram, which is only temporary. While the system requirements for it maybe some what steep it is worth it in points. On average currently a single work unit is worth 1920 points. You're getting more science done and getting a higher ppd average.
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=285623
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On a side note I have officially been taken over. Mind you I am not in the country and thus my GPU has not been folding, however all the same, congrats to unknown for finally taking the lead.
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And yuh eh getting back that spot anytime soon, sorry to say. I just wish the other team members would use their machines to fold more. This feels like a 2...make that one man show alone. Ive been watching how its basically me alone who's advancing us in the rankings. As Dr Hibbert would say, "That aint right!"
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thats not true
my northwood is churning his heart out everyday all day :(
i just recently added 2 servers and 2 desktops to the fold as well
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Sorry Crix. Good work. But the rest of you...take heed.
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This feels like a 2...make that one man show alone.
He did NOT JUST type that... *W1nTry contemplates invoking his Mangekyou and admin powers* :angryfire:
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Hey, pipe down there number 2.
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well i doin my itsy bitsy tiny part with my puny system :D i does be online all the time and my pc not really worth gaming with right now so i said wth. fold
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i guess no.1 have the bridge while no.2 on the away team :D
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How's things at #6?
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till ma quad (or rather my pops one) get here, just fine...considering i haven't folded in like 2 months its remarkable i still at 6
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Capt talking big, I remember when he talked big before and I made him eat some humble pie, he had briefly and I stress on BRIEFLY overtaken me only to be left in the DUST by almost 50k points. Just cause I am on the away team is no reason to brag :p that's like bragging about winning a special olympic event when you're the ONLY competitor XD
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rofl @ riker comin rong picard yess
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I still haven't gotten around to implementing this. :(
Was hoping to set it up in work on the student pc's in the labs... but wasn't clear on how to do it properly.
More research!
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It's been a while guys and I don't know how long it will remain but we've just crossed the 1200 threshold, give yourselves a round of applause!!!
(http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/4944/sub1200hx6.th.jpg) (http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sub1200hx6.jpg)(http://img368.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
:banana: :banana: :banana:
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i'm coming up hehe
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hmm i fold off and on yes, maybe getting in two or three WU a week to be honest. pc's not on when i'm not home, and when i'm home i want my processing power..lol
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Well Capn is folding like he's deciphering the secret of the universe... GG @ that damn Quad and his 4870 XD. I guess he finally left me in the dust. Good going meng. Now if someone else would step up and challenge me, that'd definitely put us ahead some more!
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ah coming Wait !!! :yay:
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I started yesterday...
Pity my username was already in use, but good thing they implemented the "code" thingy (like a password)
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Once my PC comes in next week I'll start Folding again..with my puny Quad Q9550 and my lonely HD4870X2...
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I find certain people reaaaaaalll rubbing in the fact that they gots a 4870x2...
*Cap't calls no names*
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I find certain people reaaaaaalll rubbing in the fact that they gots a 4870x2...
*Cap't calls no names*
:P I may have 2 come Christmas....
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Cap, you have 2 user names in the team?
W1nTry and Crixx, how to get this thing to work properly thru the firewall in work? I entered the proxy settings, but still no dice
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The only requirement of folding is TCP port 8080. If the firewall at work does not allow access to this port, crapo smoke yuh pipe unfortunately. If you have control of the firewall however all you need do is allow and outbound rule for TCP traffic from your LAN to port 8080 on the internet (of if you're really bored you can get a list of all their servers and allow it to just those specific IP addresses. See list here (http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6302)
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The ISA Server itself uses port 8080 (e.g. 192.168.2.1:8080) but the task says
[15:12:01] + Attempting to get work packet
[15:12:01] - Connecting to assignment server
[15:12:04] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[15:12:04] (Got status 502)
[15:12:04] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[15:12:05] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.20)
Worked fine @ home, so it must be the network (firewall, not proxy) that's causing it not to work...
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There is a difference between the firewall itself using port 8080 and the LAN having access to port 8080
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ive found it most annoying to set it up on machines from behind the firewall
but sometimes i think its more a matter of permissions than networking.
If i log into the admin account here at work and run the fah, it wont connect to the servers but if i log on with my regular id, it works just fine, so make sure the account you logging in with has appropriate permissions to necessary innernet group/groups.
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ive found it most annoying to set it up on machines from behind the firewall
but sometimes i think its more a matter of permissions than networking.
If i log into the admin account here at work and run the fah, it wont connect to the servers but if i log on with my regular id, it works just fine, so make sure the account you logging in with has appropriate permissions to necessary innernet group/groups.
damn, so I guess I should look into the console version for teh servers ???
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PPD IN YUH MC!!!!
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2898/ppdeq9.th.png) (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ppdeq9.png)
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We're slipping ppl! we haven't been able to move out of the 1160s for quite some time now. Capn yuh stop yuh beastly folding oh what? (granted both myself and capn are still the top folders at GATT). Where are all the other ppl? Trini, Crixx, REDLUM!!! Philo keep it up. We were churning out 10k a day at one point. ATM I have 3 CPU units constantly folding more or less and my GPU maybe 2-3 times a week at present (will try to fix that). What going on with the rest of yall?
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My GPU died a month ago, same time our PPD dropped :ko:
It's my fault, I admit it. I got nothing folding at the moment...
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I have stopped myself for no reason really. Will resume later when I get back home.
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my primary hd at home giving some problems so my folding is intermittent
and this flikkin LISA link @ work just fuxxin with the results being sent from this fleet of c2ds we now get steups
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hmm left my pc on to do some folding action from since thursday and i see i'm not doing too bad, this gtx260 is da shizznit for folding yo, i get up to 7000ppd at times :awesome:...
edit: well i never noticed this before honestly, but extreme overclockers has a very detailed folding@home stats page >> http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=71093
GATT seems to be doing ok, and just after a few days my ppd average shot up to about 1447... dang.. go team..lol
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edit: well i never noticed this before honestly, but extreme overclockers has a very detailed folding@home stats page >> http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=71093
GATT seems to be doing ok, and just after a few days my ppd average shot up to about 1447... dang.. go team..lol
Its what I use when the stanford homepage is down. It used to be in my sig
On another note, we're in the sub 1100 ppls!!!!
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/297/sub1100lz9.th.jpg) (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sub1100lz9.jpg)
Keep up the good work!!!
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moving on up :happy0203: GTX 260 CORE 216 FTW!!! :happy0203:
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You have a lonnng way to go pleb. Lonnng way.
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well i came from far, but yea i have a long way to go, only if i want to overtake y'all :lol:
according to my current ppd rate, check how long i have untill i pass W1ntry
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LMAO @ 3.8 Years!!! Tsk tsk my young padawan, I ensure you that my current rate of folding is slower than when I was at my peak ask the current #1 how much pressure it was to pass me! but even so, I have plans to change my rate in the form of some upgrades, it'll come.
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Damn, I've slowed to a crawl now :(
Have to get new cores online
/me summons BladeServers to aid...
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The following noobs do not fold anymore and should therefore be banned...
8 CannonVulcan 0 53,381
9 Trinimc 0 22,327
10 noobgonewild 0 21,773
11 Kraeoss 0 19,303
12 sadistic_greyfox 0 13,353
13 TheApprentice 0 10,937
14 ProtoJoe 0 6,449
15 PS3 0 5,893
16 RedlumTT 0 3,162
17 ninja_55 0 3,146
18 Captain_Awesome 0 1,402
19 Slysuki 0 900
20 Xel-NagaOvermind 0 857
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The following noobs do not fold anymore and should therefore be banned...
8 CannonVulcan 0 53,381
9 Trinimc 0 22,327
10 noobgonewild 0 21,773
11 Kraeoss 0 19,303
12 sadistic_greyfox 0 13,353
13 TheApprentice 0 10,937
14 ProtoJoe 0 6,449
15 PS3 0 5,893
16 RedlumTT 0 3,162
17 ninja_55 0 3,146
18 Captain_Awesome 0 1,402
19 Slysuki 0 900
20 Xel-NagaOvermind 0 857
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/me snickers @ Cap suggesting we ban him for being a n00b
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:( I just am playing alot of PS3....
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Yes, I do think Captain Awesome needs to be banned. That dude is a noob extraordinaire if I ever saw one.
*looks around*
That Cap't and that Xel are imposters. I'll find and eliminate them.
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We've Breached the top 1000 team!!!! HOOORAH!!!!
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2710/sub1000hp4.th.jpg) (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sub1000hp4.jpg)
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wow....
Congratulations GATT folders. :)
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just checking and i now noticed it, sweet. amazing how far i've reached with one gtx260, ppd iymc!!!
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My lack of a proper gpu has stuck me at position #6 for the while...
Hurry up RMA!!!
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Down into the 800s ppl! that being said, would the GPU folders sound off please. I would like to know how many PPD does a 4850, 4870 and GTX260 produce. I gather that my 8800GT can manage around 3k a day as far as I can tell. Running WHOLE day how much do yall get? Capt and Xel?
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my gtx260 benchmarked can pump avg of 6500ppd from the stats in f@hmon and eve higher oc'd, like >7000ppd.. but the most i ever got stats wise on the OCC stats page was 4000ppd after i left the client running for a weekend, but that was an increasing stat. gtx260 is a beast with folding, i mean look where i am with that single card, and i run the client now and again these days.....
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This is a shout out to certain other gatt members who have powerful rigs seemingly doing nothing... by nothing I mean they ONLY gaming at best. So here's to ARCMAN, phoenix31tt, Rage, SaxMan, Hard O/C, kgfalby, Nephilim, SPK and Prowl... allyuh start doing some GPU folding nah, even if it's just a few days a week. A single GPU even the 8800GT can fold as much as 4000PPD. If yall started folding even on a off (and for those mentioned that seemingly STOPPED folding START BACK). With just about 7 members, we've breached the top 1000 in fact we're 859th as of this post. If yall all throw in a extra 2-4k a week we'll see some impressive gains I am sure!!!
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ive been looking for a way to get my dell to fold more since its just being used as a SAN box right now.
But i have my "new" pc folding both gpu and cpu
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Where the folding @ home banner w1n? we could advertise this a bit more. I'm sure a lot of folks miss it.
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Will work on it sometime this week
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aight win i have the GPU and CPU (smp) set ups. i running it with large wus.
any settings in particular you runs?
also anyone know hows to set it as a service in vista/7/08?
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have to use the console client for service
find it right on the dowload page
when you going thru the setup, use advanced settings and set all parameters
it will run as a service on restart
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yeah i use the console client on all, but the service breaks in vista/7/08, sometimes. wanted to know if anyone had another way to do it.
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fill in the "Run As" section for the service. Provide valid credentials.
Just a suggestion
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didn't think of that. will try it.
the service option itself is a known buggy area, but i hate to see that thing in the task bar just taking up space needlessly.
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I haven't had too many problems running it as a service under Vista... save the remember option in my firewall and I disabled UAC...
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same here. will give it a go via the normal thing, worst case scenario i just redo it, it still early.
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the smp service works, the gpu service is shot though.
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'EUE limit exceeded. Pausing 24 hours.'
whats that nao?
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'EUE limit exceeded. Pausing 24 hours.'
whats that nao?
HEYYYY. I getting the same error. I thought it was due to my crossfire config so I disabled it.
A wu is running, but still under observation.
It could be due to overclock as well. That's the next thing im going to take off.
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i seeing somewhere is a CUDA issue. and some saying OC
but either way it working now, so all is good in folding land.
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OCing... you are OCing the video card permanently?
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the vid has been at my last bench OC for the last 3/4 months. it can do 750 easily.
i aint gonna V-mod nun. so doh even propose it
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No I wasn't going to, I was reffering to the fact that you suffered a CUDA error and you looking at the OC. I was asking if you OCed the card as well as it might just be a matter of defaulting the card and not the CPU. That aside, keep in mind 8800GTs aka G92 have 'issues'... related to heat and fracturing... let's hope it's not a sign your card.... well you know..
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hardly have heat issues, had switch out the hsf asap when i got the card.
if it happens again then I'll try default, but i highly doubt is that.
just looking at nvidia site it seems i have some old drivers too, will upgrade in a bit.
also, how much better the folding is on a 4870 than a 88gt? from what i seeing it kinda sucks...
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Nvidia folding is a lot better, which is ironic since ATI has supported folding for wayyy longer.
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(looks @ w1ntry cuteye)
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From what I remember, they only use about 300-400 of the unified shaders on the ATI cards (note both the 4850 & 4870 have 800 unified shaders) in the F@H GPU agent. Why this is so, I don't know. If that has been changed since, I don't know, look around the folding at home forums and see what's the latest (could be Nvidia marketing money at work) or it could be just a limitation. Regardless of what it is a 4870 isn't a slouch even so.
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I found something regarding the Error yall received, didn't read all the way through, but they should have some feedback in there to explain:
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9039 (http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9039)
Also check out these BEAST FOLDING MACHINES :ko:
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=7902 (http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=7902)
Excerpt:
70 629 PPD Xmemory + Total OverClock Core i7 940 + 4 x NVIDIA GTX295 read their config post and 70K PPD record <-- WTF
66 300 PPD Atlas Folder AMD Phenom 9950 + 4xGTX 295 (1 SMP + 8 GPU clients) Atlas Folding Blog
55 400 PPD Jaak Phenom X3 + 4 x GTX 295 (total SMP + 8 GPU clients) read more about Estonia Donates
44 135 PPD Anubias Q9550@3825 DDR2 900 2 Gb 3x9800GX2 XPx86 SP3 (SMP + 6 x GPU) = Anubias link (russian)
41 000 PPD Tigerbiten 8 x 9800 GX2 (4 cards, 8 GPU clients ca 5000 PPD) go to the post
37 200 PPD Gadreel 8 x 9800 GX2 (4 cards, 8 GPU clients) = 37 200 PPD go to the post
35 500 PPD MoneyBuyBK Q6600 SMP + 6 x 9800GX2 (3 cards) go to the post
24 300 PPD Leonardo Q6600 3,6GHz (2 SMP clients) + 2 x 9800 GX2 (4 GPU clients) Result's screenshot go to the post
22 400 PPD P2501 CPU + GTX295 (1 card, 2 GPU clients) look into Xtremesystems forum
Update: A post about the folding on ATI vs. Nvidia
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=8245 (http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=8245)
Important summary, the HD4xxx is better at LARGE proteins, the Nvidia small. Since the GPU client is relatively new territory, there aren't as many Large protein calculation, however they should increase with time. Read the post you'll get alot of info.
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those setups are sick, simply amazing performance!
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crap. that mean i running my 88 with the wrong units. i usually use the larger units.
*changes*
those set ups are pretty much on par with what i read too.
i set up the smp as they have it. at 100% my q94 pumps about 2.5-3.5k. i heard that running 2 of them with the affinity changer can yield anywhere from 10-50% ppd increase.
my v/c at 50% about 3k
my dad's CPU temps get to high to leave it home alone without the AC (near 70) so i gonna need a decent cooler for a room about 28-30*C and then that one will come online for the 12hrs away from the PCs...
ah hem
...i saiiiddd i gonna need a decent cooler for a room about 28-30*C...heckle away :P
from what i read it seems to work better in nix, even in VMs so ill set that up later maybe and give it a trial. There is supposed to be a special distro for folding too.
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...i saiiiddd i gonna need a decent cooler for a room about 28-30*C...heckle away :P
from what i read it seems to work better in nix, even in VMs so ill set that up later maybe and give it a trial. There is supposed to be a special distro for folding too.
Feh, my room reaches 36*C and I run the folding 100% GPU and CPU. I use the Xigmatek and my CPU never passes 50. I am thinking of upgrading the HSF... If you interested it might hasten that upgrade XD
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wtf @ 4 x 295!
are they for real? lol i taught it had recession??
i also wanted to run the f@h in a nix vm but for the life of me i cannot get suse to install in a vm steups.
i half assedly tried installing f@h in ubuntu but it was giving me beans... and i can now play lots of games so it was like damn not working? scene back to deadspace and mirrors edge and left 4 dead and crysis warhead and fall out 3.
just a btw, them people who make deadspace... on real s^^&
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Updated first post
Sig Image now included for Team Stats
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what site you using for them awesome stats
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what site you using for them awesome stats
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/?nav=IMAGES (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/?nav=IMAGES)
I ran out of space in my sig to inclulde the [url] tags :P :(
I managed to squeeze it in now. Image is clickable again.
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Great find, chakra for you!
I opted for the image linking to the TEAM page though :p
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hmm the one in your sig no seem to be accurate with what on page
page say yu number 2
say i number 3 ^_^
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That's summary data Crixx
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=71093 (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=71093)
See, W1nTry is #3, but he's the 2nd highest producer atm
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Feh, my room reaches 36*C and I run the folding 100% GPU and CPU. I use the Xigmatek and my CPU never passes 50. I am thinking of upgrading the HSF... If you interested it might hasten that upgrade XD
hit me a link plix, if it the one i think it is then im game.
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Product Website: http://www.xigmatek.com/product/air-hdts1283.php (http://www.xigmatek.com/product/air-hdts1283.php)
Frostytech Review: http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2233 (http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2233)
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Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer FTW!!
Damn my ppd count dropped, haven't folded much recently, plus i only do gpu folding... sigh.. but i'm still doing good in my case huh.
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Product Website: http://www.xigmatek.com/product/air-hdts1283.php (http://www.xigmatek.com/product/air-hdts1283.php)
Frostytech Review: http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2233 (http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2233)
yeah exactly the one i though it was. pm with price when you ready to let it go.
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I'm running the SMP client, but my cpu usage is only at 13% steady. Should I run multiple smp clients??
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yea yu should
i run the gpu client
2 smp and 1 sys tray client and is the only way my usage reaches high
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at the end of the config it asks is you should put in additional arguments.
put in -smp -deino (sub for MPICH if you using that) as the arguments. it will carry the usage to 100% on all your cores (threads?) this is cuz by default the smp client only uses idle cylces.
crixx, can u detail how you run them? I'd like to get 2 smps up but i'm unsure how to do it. Since our rigs more or less on par i might just have to do a few changes.
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the trick is the installation directories and the machine ids
install one in a default location
install the second in a different folder
set them to run as services and to utilise 100% cpu
set them to different machine ids
they will then attempt to max each core they are on.
i use sys tray cpu client for one so i can track progress since you dont get output for the console ones.
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^^He's right. I've used multiple consoles for years. First time trying the smp though. Seems to be pumping those units @ a much higher rate now.
I tried using the -smp arg in the shortcut, returns an "Early work end" error, stops.
First I was getting a Deino etc etc error, installing the Deino credential manager thing fixed that, but got the Early work end error immediately.
3 instances smp AND gpu console utilizes only 55% cpu.
Moreeee instances moreeeeeee
4 Instances + gpu = 65 - 70%
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As was mentioned, the SMP client when running properly will max out all 4 cores. Running multiple SMP clients could result in decreased PPDs. If you're on Core i7 then like yuhself with 2. SMP clients can run and complete on a dual core machine depending on how powerful the cores are, as I said if yuh on Core i7 with HT enabled you have 8 logical threads and it should be no problem.
For details on how to get the SMP running properly read the following:
Deino (32-bit): http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinSMPGuideDEINO (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinSMPGuideDEINO)
MPICH (32/64-bit): http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinSMPGuideMPICH (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinSMPGuideMPICH)
I set up SMP before on a Dual Socket Intel server and most recently on my X3 720 this morning using the MPICH client. I'll admit it took a lil while but the instructions are pretty good. My only advice is DO NOT install the SMP client in your C:/user folder, use the programs (x86) folder once UAC is disabled.
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after the first time it's pretty easy, i been using the SMP since i had the dual. It's like breaking in a new gf. takes forever the first time but then it just gets easier.
Also, i just returned my card to stock...and my ppd increased by about 1500...w1n, any insight?
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It could be that OCing was introducing errors in the calculations or perhaps you're getting smaller WUs that are more akin to the 8800GT cards. Remember the HD4xxx series are better at larger size calculations. Did you also change the WU size on the GPU client?
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I have taken off the oc on the video card as well as disabled crossfire still getting the eue error. No help on the forums etc. I guessill have to give up on the gpu folding for the hour.
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yeah w1n i did actually change the WU size after reading the smaller ones are better earlier in your post.
that EUE error happened after i took off my OC too.
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anybody seeing these large sized projects for their gpu folding? the things weigh 1888points yo! brings my gtx260 @ stock down to its kneees!
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Oh no, I lost a rank?!?!?
Neph, it was you wasn't it, damnit, time to get this new PC going....
Well for sure after my exams this month at least :(
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Well I've finally joined the ranks a little while back, hope my system is helping out somewhat...one thing though, how do they determine the score? I notice how I've passed some people in terms of score, while doing fewer WUs...so can anyone give me a little insight into the scoring system?
I noticed today though that Cpt. Awesome has been overtaken as the leading folder in the GATT squad...I wonder for how long would be the question.
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Up to now I not even sure who Xel is? Has he been posting lately or posting under an alias?
Unless he stops altogether or unless I go nvidia, I wont be able to pass him in a hurry :(
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xel naga has two accounts in our team
hmm
and this scoring system is a little confusing for real
cause i have almost double the WUs of the two people ahead of me
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I've been using the GPU folding agent for a LONG time so my WU count is relatively low compared to my score. I started in the days of my X1900XT. I've been wondering who Xel is cause he is RACKING up PPDs like WHOA... Capn, watch yuhself I tell yuh the man was gunning for yuh XD. Also yall realize we hit the 7xx mark right? so YES SPK you folding IS helping!
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the WU number isn't how they score, it depends on the size of the WU, small units have lower number of points associated with them the larger units have a crap load.
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Oh yeah, it doesnt help that my gpu folding is a no go these days.
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Oh yeah, it doesnt help that my gpu folding is a no go these days.
QUA? explain
Also... Neph...what you doing so to wrack up 5k+ PPD? your benchmarks show a 8800GT, but are you on a GTX260 now and/or what additional clients are you running?
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I was getting an eue error core shutdown after a few mins of folding, sometimes immediately. (See page 17 or 18) but this morning I put on the gpu client again and lo and behold, its still folding happily without making any changes. Hopefully it stays working for the while.
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Oh yeah, it doesnt help that my gpu folding is a no go these days.
QUA? explain
Also... Neph...what you doing so to wrack up 5k+ PPD? your benchmarks show a 8800GT, but are you on a GTX260 now and/or what additional clients are you running?
88gt (BFG OC2). GPU client
q94 @ 3.2 . SMP client
and whenever the servers get rebooted that is some dual xeons in the mix.
and i've been using my lappy more than my desktop as of late so it on 100% all cores for all that time
i haven't been folding in the last 36 hours, my rigs giving a fked up bsod error and i can't figure it out for shit, happens everyday about an hour before i come home. no shit. it's like it timing meh. i can't afford my array getting fked so main rig out of commission till i bring up my 2nd rig end of this month.
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Two Dell Precision T5400 WorkStations (http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/precn_t5400) just now going and add to my workforce...
here @ work, doing nuthin all nite long!?!?!? nah, F@H ftw~!
Specs:
Dual Quad Core Intel® Xeon® Processor E5420 (2.50GHz, 2X6M L2,1333)
NVIDIA Quadro® FX 570 (256MB GDDR3 / 128-bit / 12.8 GB/sec)
4GB DDR2 FBD Memory, 667MHz, ECC (4 DIMMS)
2 x 160GB WD Raptors
What a shame it's running 32-bit XP Pro :(
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What a shame it's running 32-bit XP Pro :(
WTF???? what kind of IDIOT orders a machine like that with a 32-bit OS?
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the kinda that doh wanna lose wuk cuz he didn't stick to company specifications winny. hadda be...not even the crappiest of techs will put 32bit os on a machine like that.
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Nah, IT had nuthin to do with this order... the department retained some training program from foreign, and them was the machines they sent us. I would resign my post as Sys Admin if I was the one who recommended that to them.........
Gonna try to get the SMP service to run on these bad boys later today...
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(still waiting on banner from w1ntry)
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Update on my "new" workforce...
The GPU client, running as a service, caused a blue screen last night. Pressure!
Will try to get the SMP client running as a service.
Then I'll use W1nTry's suggestion and use Task Scheduler to start/stop service during off peak hours.
/me goes back to the drawing board
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If you're going to run it as a scheduled task I suggest NOT running the SMP client as it's very sensitive to starting and stopping.
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If you're going to run it as a scheduled task I suggest NOT running the SMP client as it's very sensitive to starting and stopping.
ack!
So now what? Run 8 of the plain clients?
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Yes you could, or alternatively run the SMP client but not at full throttle. Or schedule it to run for 3-4 days a week (none stop). But 8 single clients should still do nicely as even the basic client can process jobs with as high as 1200Pts.
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Yay me!!! :yay:
(http://www.carigamers.com/media/d/13570-1/100K_cert.jpg)
Wow, it took about 8 months to get that many points... according to one of the other stats sites I check, it'll take me almost a year to double this. :(
Hope I get some more cores online soon.
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Wow, it took about 8 months to get that many points... according to one of the other stats sites I check, it'll take me almost a year to double this. :(
Hope I get some more cores online soon.
GPU folding ftMFw!!!!
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Wow, it took about 8 months to get that many points... according to one of the other stats sites I check, it'll take me almost a year to double this. :(
Hope I get some more cores online soon.
GPU folding ftMFw!!!!
i7 folding ftmfw
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wtf
why is my GPU working on a unit with 20 MILLION parts???
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cuz nvidia pwns all our bases
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wtf
why is my GPU working on a unit with 20 MILLION parts???
You think that strange crixx? lol i've seen as high as 25mil. As for Capn.. bite me XD
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banner for the efforts, nothing fancy
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ok i say i go give this folding thing ah lil try cause like is a big topic round here
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I just realised, 2 years into it, and we're now breaking into the top 700!
Go Team, Go!
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GJ n00b, sorry I didn't get a banner out the door, but if/when I do i'll update accordingly.
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no probs bro. glad to help.
Bone, your PC should be able to do some serious crunching. good processor there.
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Hmm tell me sumn guys, those beta clients for GPU folding are more productive than that normal FAH client??
Can you have both of them running at the same time or is it just one?
And which one of those beta clients is the best one to use?
I usually have my pc on all day at home while I in work so it might as well do sumn for the 8-9 hours...
Once men get the right info on the programs we can jump up in the ranks pretty easy cause we have some serious hardware users on this forum..
How bout we set targets like say we wanna break into the top 500 by the end of July/August??
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GPU folding is epic epic fail for ati cards, but the beta clients are not more productive afaik. What's more productive is the console client as opposed to the gui client, and even so, its just a small increase.
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Hmm ok then kool will take note of that
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One meeeeelllleon points. i've contributed just under a quarter of the team's total score :)
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(http://ericlightborn.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/austin-powers-mike-myers-as-dr-evil4.jpg?w=450&h=362)
congrats
*insert evil laugh here* :lol:
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ok, i've join the gatt folding team but i dont see my name in the rankings
i got the team id correct
did i do any thing wrong or must i first complete a WU?
or updating is just slow?
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Updating is done only about twice for the say. Sometimes maybe more, but fear not, very soon you'll appear on the rankings.
Welcome to the army soldier.
Oh btw, we've broken the 700th marker. Good job guys.
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^^yea, saw that last night, we be working... sorry i was out for about a 2weeks with my OS issues, now start back to fold a lil... my gtx260 chugging along strong...
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current standings. well done indeed
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core 2 quad men, what is allyuh max ppd...????
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i7 alone, no gpu (since ati folding does not work for me anymore) gives me about 6,500ppd.
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that's with all the cores(threads) @ max, that is, all 8 @ work @ 100%?
if so then the VM+linux client really >imba than the std win client
i gets 5500-6000 ppd at max nao
ppdiymc (https://files.getdropbox.com/u/403597/omgwtffah.png)
if so cap't then you could get much moar, plus with your ram it should be even better.
i would like to suggest anyone with a quad/dual to try this shit out.
btw you WILL need @ least 4GB ram to make this worth while, anything less than 1GB in the VM will incapacitate your performance like wanye brady beating choking a bitch (fixed as per caps correctionz)
if y'all interested let I-mengz know will let you know how i sets it upz
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that 6500 is only 50% usage on the 8 threads, although I suspect that its closer to about 75% usage. If I run another instance, each one's ppd will drop but I believe that all in total will be greater than the current 6500 I get. I eh ready to blaze out them guns just yet though. In time.
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9512/foldingppd.th.jpg) (http://img189.imageshack.us/my.php?image=foldingppd.jpg)
And correction...its Wayne Brady CHOKING a bitch. Get it right :)
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fk yo i7
(http://www.crusha.com/gifs/chappeleRickJamesDirtyUpCouch.gif)
but damn allyuh mengz coulda say sum bout this VM madness (i assume vm in the pic is a vm), i was running the win smp so longs failing @ folding :(
also, quick question about graphic card interfaces and folding. does the PCI-e bandwidth affect the GPU's ability to fold?
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VM folding indeed. A friend of mine who folds for evga told me about it. Prety sick stuff. leagues ahead of the shit stanford site calls "high performance clients"
As for the bandwidth, I seriously doubt that PCI-E 1 will cause a performance hit, unless you running something like a gtx295 on it. Most of the lower end cards dont even use enough bandwidth to take advantage of PCI-E 1 so I think you're safe.
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A friend of mine who folds for evga told me about it. Prety sick stuff. leagues ahead of the shit stanford site calls "high performance clients"
Ent! i was getting about 1200ppd with the win client...was expecting a 3k pdd as per the reading i did on articles and forum lurking
to get >4k was unexpected.
VM folding indeed.
what OS?
As for the bandwidth, I seriously doubt that PCI-E 1 will cause a performance hit, unless you running something like a gtx295 on it. Most of the lower end cards dont even use enough bandwidth to take advantage of PCI-E 1 so I think you're safe.
nice, will do some research on the best price:ppd cards prob get a few of those and run the GPU on that.
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8800GS 384MB
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8800GS 384MB
I have one or two of these running as well.
Neph, running the Linux smp client, 64 bit option on top of Win7
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nuh finding the 88gs might have to settle for a 88gt or 96gso if i can find its.
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Dang @ those CPY Foling meng... shame I don't have any servers at my disposal anymore... ah well.
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wow my ppd went up with those SMP clients folding along nicely
Gonna try to get some more SMP on a server or two.
now where did I see those instructions for adding as a service / starting and stopping F@H service...
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Well Gotaku ps3 is up and running for FlodingHome come ps3 users out join the fight :mellow:
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Well Gotaku ps3 is up and running for FlodingHome come ps3 users out join the fight :mellow:
Epic first post. Welcome to the fold (pardon the pun)
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aye, gotaku yes. long time no see bro.
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Thu Jul 2 04:30:00 PDT 2009
team teamname score wu
71093 GATT 4287007 15607
Team rank: 677
Team members:
rank team rank name credit total team
5070 1 Xel_NagaOvermind 1299410 2376 71093
6419 2 the_unknown 1053205 6769 71093
7197 3 W1nTry 954526 3240 71093
31579 4 Crixxtachi 215755 971 71093
32248 5 Nephilim 211023 559 71093
33409 6 Philosophical45 202864 437 71093
50919 7 Netizen 124388 309 71093
95739 8 CannonVulcan 53381 189 71093
116414 9 Rage 39948 77 71093
161875 10 noobgonewild 23761 183 71093
167782 11 Trinimc 22327 144 71093
182608 12 Kraeoss 19303 44 71093
223704 13 sadistic_greyfox 13353 84 71093
235744 14 TheApprentice 12105 57 71093
320669 15 ProtoJoe 6449 31 71093
323399 16 SPK1983 6334 17 71093
334200 17 PS3 5893 17 71093
369623 18 Red_Fish 4702 15 71093
435205 19 RedlumTT 3162 14 71093
436191 20 ninja_55 3146 12 71093
440295 21 Hard_oc 3069 7 71093
540632 22 Bess 1753 7 71093
582971 23 Captain_Awesome 1402 6 71093
587655 24 lil_Bone 1365 4 71093
663974 25 Slysuki 900 3 71093
675603 26 Xel-NagaOvermind 857 10 71093
696680 27 Gotaku 757 3 71093
771822 28 Berzerk 511 1 71093
780726 29 SeaTurtle 499 15 71093
825455 30 Doomtack 383 4 71093
904428 31 Marc_Polo 251 1 71093
943403 32 SamuraiFoX 225 1 71093
1202505 33 greygoose 0 0 71093
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Well Gotaku ps3 is up and running for FlodingHome come ps3 users out join the fight :mellow:
more better good strong engrish! shall win us viccctollyy!!
(couldnt resist sorry)
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lol, crixx....
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Slight overclock on the i7...
7000 ppd iymc.
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6641/ppdiymc.th.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/ppdiymc.jpg/)
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I see we are up to 35 members on the team. well done, the more the merrier
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I see we are up to 35 members on the team. well done, the more the merrier
yeah, but less than half are active
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Half of 10 means 5 active
Half of 20 means 10 active.
All the more reason to rejoice at 35.
It is highly unlikely that we will ever get 100% activity from everyone, making it all the more important to increase the number of participants trying to save the world.
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ok am still kinda new 2 folding
so am hearing bout GPU folding and would like 2 test it out
what do i do?
and how do you get 2 see your ppd n stuff, is that a folding cliet or somthing?
what do i need 2 do in order 2 get these stuff?
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fahmon
http://fahmon.net/ (http://fahmon.net/)
this is what most use to check the ppd
GPU client from F@H - get the gui version if your new you can graduate to the console when your ready.
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther) first one on the page
be warned.
gpu client at 100% can carry your temps pretty high on the gpu
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hey peeps we in the top 600!!! WOOTT!!!!!
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can som1 tell me y am a loseing units after a restart
this has happened 2 me more dan once alredy
1) 79% of an 5000 cpu WU worth like 700 points
2) 85% of an 10000 GPU WU like 1900 points
i have bin 2 the folding site and they say this shouldent happen
+ how can your core affect your overall folding and how can i change it?
my (core = Gromacs)
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Which CPU folding agent are you using? the SMP or the normal? also is your system overclocked?
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yeah good questions winny
if your system is oced and you have the check point frequency set from a long interval, then i could foresee something happening to make you lose work that way.
My checkpoint frequency is set to 3 minutes just incase.
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My checkpoint frequency is set to 3 minutes just incase.
yeah mine too
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Normal folding agents I set to 3 mins, the SMP I set to 15mins as that's the recommended setting. Also since you're running 2 agents, you set the 2 with different IDs right? and lastly what version drivers for the GPU are you using?
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my system isent OCed
i far as i know am useing the normal agent
cpu agent set machine ID #1 GPU #2 like d settings ent saving or somthing
cause yet still somtime some error go come up and somthing bout d machine IDs
since i set IDs i never changed it
oyea and somtimes 1 of the agent starts with windows, d people never put an option 2 change this? nVidia driver 185.85 (forgot d rest ah numbers)
o and BTW am running Win XP x86 SP3
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update your drivers, i think 19x out already, and see if it gives the same error
link:http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_190.38_whql.html
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and yu have a quad core cpu not so??
you may need to change those machine ids to suit
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ok i try d update but it dident play nice with my OS
so back 2 driver 185.85
i go work with it so for d while, i will just try and remember 2 exit folding befor i restart and c if that helps
but dispite my losses am doing good going up in the ranks ehh?
o and another thing, weather i set lowest possible or 100% i still only get bout 25% useage on cpu
but me ent really have a problem with that ehh since i prefer lowest possible anyways
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wow so power just went out
77% worth 1888 points
lost :(
i think i will have 2 give up on duel folding for now since i keep loseing UWs
will untill i get my new HDD and install vista or win7
such a pain 2 lose all that work
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dude, you really need to double check them settings...
the checkpoint is built in just for that same reason... you shouldn't lose ALL 77% if power goes... at most a couple percent, but not the whole thing!!!
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Consider switching to the SMP client, just keep in mind it's more sensitive to interruptions and it WILL MAX out ur CPU utilization. Also get a UPS man.
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only realised this morning that my gtx260 hits 8000+ ppd :awesome:
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wow thats impressive. I wish ati could do that.
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I still don't know why there isn't a decent client / PPD for ATI cards
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I still don't know why there isn't a decent client / PPD for ATI cards
Effort on their part imho. Nvidia put alot of effort into the F@H client for their cards, however AMD I guess is too busy to or just not as interested.. sad really.
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And for that reason alone, I feel like waiting for nvidia's new generation cards and upgrade to those instead. Nvidia came lonnnggg after ATI and beating them hands down in this. Just unacceptable.
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And for that reason alone, I feel like waiting for nvidia's new generation cards and upgrade to those instead. Nvidia came lonnnggg after ATI and beating them hands down in this. Just unacceptable.
Now Capn you're getting ahead of yourself. You have to look at the big picture to understand the possible whys. First off ATI/AMD is focused on smaller cell type architecture for their GPUs, Nvidia has up till the GTX2xx series used, large monolithic cores. AMD has a CPU, Nvidia does NOT they are a graphics house. However the market is shifter towards integrated CPU/GPU and hence intel and amd are in favourable positions as they have x86 in their stables. Nvidia does not. The bulk of sales are ALWAYS in the low-mid and thats' where these new integrated CPU/GPU product are aimed, thus again win win for Intel and AMD, boo hoo nvidia, all they do is graphics.
Thus Nvidia has been pushing like HELL through high waters to show the... more CPU centric possibilities of their GPUs, cause guess what if the low end falls out from below them, they will be pushing up daisys. Folding @ Home is a marketing tool as much as a cancer solving tool for Nvidia as at the end of the day they need general purpose processing benig 'accelerated' by their hardware for ppl to see any real value in the upcoming shift.
That being said Nvidia has been pushing CUDA which is what it uses for folding and ATI has Stream. Nvidia pushing CUDA ALOT harder than ATI stream and most likely for the aforementioned reasons. ATI has been focused on performance and the FACT that you have 2x4870 PROVES it paid off. DO you buy a GPU to fold? or to play games? Last I checked most ppl play games.
That being said, I hope you will rethink you last comment.
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Well the folding ability is not why I bought the card, but its something to do when im not gaming. Right now I cant even fold on the cards AT ALL. All the folding on my main system is done on the cpu. I could understand if it folds but is only slightly slower than nvidia's cards, but I cant run folding on the cards AT ALL. A LOT of people are getting the same issue im getting and its as though they dont care...THAT is unacceptable and this is why im considering switching to nvidia.
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Hmm.. strange... though i've been using my 8800GT so I don't really know the case of your strife. Also the ATI cards are comparable in WU per day when large units are involved. I still wouldn't hinge my card purchase on whether or not it folds as your CPU folds like a beast and to achieve the same on the GPU would involve MUCH higher power consumption (keep that in mind).
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True that. Ive pretty much given up on ati folding, but tis all good. The cpu is doing a pretty good job for the hour.
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Just did a stat check... The GATT Team is at #512 on the leaderboards.
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/teamstats/team71093.html (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/teamstats/team71093.html)
Great great job all of you guys.
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I've been checking lately and I can now for the first time (that I am aware of) say we're in the top 500 ppl!!!
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1676/498p.th.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/498p.jpg/)
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w00t~!
Good job Team!!!
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GPU folding have meh card running toasty boy. time for some fans...
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aye guru you have any benchies with the i5 also any details, imma curious to move over mid next year but i doh wanna move to the i5 unless i get a significant boost over my q94
any info appreciated
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Nice!!! another folder in the frey, that'll add a good couple thousand a day if he puts if full stream!
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folders, a little help plixity
I just started back vm folding (*nix+smp) and i'm looking for some advice/info
set up as follows:
debian 5.0.3
f@h 6.02 SMP
2 of 4 cores (3.2)
2GB ram
as im only going to have this 1 instance running I'd like some help to maximize the ppd, i'd like to know what config should i be looking at to achieve this.
do big units yeild higher ppd?
would more ram allocated to the smp translate to faster WU completion?
i will continue to google-fu but so far the questions have no answers or i'm hitting a brick wall
any helpful input is appreciated
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Larger WUs have larger points, however the larger the WU the more complex the calculations and the longer it takes, so it's a trade off. I've found that the SMP is still a better option than many single folding clients so you're on the right track with teh SMP. I don't believe you need more than 512MB to any given WU. Trick with the SMP client is DO NOT SHUTDOWN. It has to run the full course. If you intend to shutdown or restart regularly then I suggest going with multiple single clients as its been my experience that SMP once shutdown does NOT resume.
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google-fu came up empty. it appears the nix client is as close to smp perfection as it can get - won't get any more crunch unless i up the hardware
never had that wu problem, though i am aware of it, even when i was using the win client it resumed fine, the only thing i could say against it is that it takes long to start back up
also i can pause the vm if i have to restart/shutdown
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As I am now the happy new owner of a HD4870X2 and seeing as AMD has yet (or perhaps its stanford) optimize the folding agent for their architecture I am using my 8800GT to fold as well (in the SAME system). This card is used for PhysX and folding. However just as it's not just plug and play to get the PhysX and AMD cards to play together nicely (Nvidia made this rather backward thinking decision to disable PhysX if an alternative GPU is detected in the same system SHAME ON YOU NVIDIA), so too it's not straightforward with folding as well. Basically there is a walkthough on the Folding at home page here (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinGPUGuide) telling you how to configure multicard setups such as my HD4870X2 or SLI or crossfire, however they do NOT tell you how to run 2 alternative vendor cards in the same system (such as myself). Thanks to the power that is google I am happy to report that I can pass on to you fellow gatt folders the lil extra 'umph' that is needed to get this up and running, it's as follows:
ATI shortcut:
-forcegpu ati_r700Target: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Folding@home\Folding@home-gpu\Folding@home.exe" -gpu 0 -forcegpu ati_r700
Start In: C:\Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-gpuATI
nV Shortcut:
Target: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Folding@home\Folding@home-gpu\Folding@home.exe" -local -forcegpu nvidia_g80
Start In: C:\Users\Peter\AppData\Roaming\Folding@home-gpunVidia
Basically if you read the first instructions on mutligpu setups you already know you need to make CUSTOM shortcuts referencing different work folders etc, to add to that when running multi VENDOR you need to add the extra initialization strings highlighted above. Cheers
Below is a link to the forum I found this solution on:
http://forum.xcpus.com/ask-gurus/29031-fold-nvidia-game-ati-same-computer.html (http://forum.xcpus.com/ask-gurus/29031-fold-nvidia-game-ati-same-computer.html)
Also i've included a screenshot of my shortcut configs:
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7800/multigpumultivendorfold.th.jpg) (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/multigpumultivendorfold.jpg/)
You will notice that the ATI shortcuts reference a different EXE from the nvidia shortcut as well as 2 different work folders. THe Nvidia shortcut also references its own exe and has its own work folder. Because of the -local used in the Nvidia shortcut I am using the default install path for this exe though the work folder is uniquely named.
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very nice guide w1n. +1
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Ppl, i've noticed we're slipping lately. It seems that we are capable of reaching the top 500 and hover at or around 450, however this seems to be our sustained avg position. Our top folders theunknown and xelnaga have done admirably in the past and between them and myself have acrued the bulk of the points that have brought us to where we are (somewhere around 8.8 millions points) and I hereby extend the gauntlet to the other members of gatt to take up the mantle and put those idle CPU and GPU cycles to good use and help us not only maintain our current position, but also to progress ever forward to even higher rank!
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Nope, truth is the better we do the better everyone does, i've not lost the point of it, but giving ppl another purpose other than 'good will' usually helps :p that being said, a man with an many spare cpu and gpu cycles should have a MUCH better ppd, what's ur excuse?
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remote monitoring with hfm.net (http://code.google.com/p/hfm-net/)
recently I've been tuned unto hfm.net, which allows remote monitoring by generation it's own little website, using dropbox's public folder i thought this could be good for all those folders who crunch all over the place like frivolous women on carnival Tuesday, as it allows you to monitor how the progress is and can even alert you by email should anything be amiss.
Here's a quick set up of the current vm i have on it here (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/403597/fah/summary.html)
inb4 install vmware tools, i know i know...
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It's been some time since this thread has gotten the bump. In addition to that I myself have not been folding nearly as much as i'd like to, that being said, recent changes to hardware have allowed me to in the least temporarily do some SMP folding and hopefully put back up some respectable numbers XD. I do encourage all members to join the fray, those are not active, please try to aid in whatever little way is possible. To the stalwart members honourable mention:
Xel_Naga
the_unknown (Capn Awesome I believe)
Great job guys, yal are the supporting pillars of GATT folding effort atm so keep it up.
We've been in the top 500 teams in the WORLD for the past year, however we're on the brink of falling out of that 500. Yes as of writing we're 498... so again those who are new, feel free to check out the FAQ on the stanford website regarding folding and ask any questions you may have, we'll do our best to respond, and to those who are inactive, take up your arms brothers! let's make 2011 an even better year than the previous an who knows, even break the 400!
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unknown is me, dont know who Xel is but whoever he/she is, ive been trying to catch up more than a year now. gg
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unknown is me, dont know who Xel is but whoever he/she is, ive been trying to catch up more than a year now. gg
Xel uses a PS3 if i'm not mistaken... study dat!
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hmmm I have a ps3 too but I dont feel comfortable leaving yet another machine on all day while at work.
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Well guys we've finally been booted from the top 500! it was a good run, well over a year and with myself hardly contributing in that time. In spite of my renewed efforts and crixx as well, it's just not enough power to keep us in the top 500. We need to go on a drive to push past the 500 again and to even break the top 400. We have ALOT of powerful systems on gatt, alot of which have GTX and HD class hardware and those who fold know, GPU folding >> CPU, those that have PS3's as well. The top folder on the gatt team started with his PS3, based on his scores, I am unsure whether he has supplimented with CPU/GPU folding power, but i'm sure his PS3 is still folding away.
So ENLIST TODAY, CANCER PATIENTS and GATT NEED YOU!
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7162/weneedyoucoastartillery.jpg) (http://img255.imageshack.us/i/weneedyoucoastartillery.jpg/)
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Bad news. My 8800 that has been silently folding for the last maybe 2 years has finally buckled under the 24/7 stress. He is now no more. Such a great soldier, still deciding how best his remains can be honored.
Anyway, replaced him with a much weaker soldier in the Geforce 210, basically performance is cut in half. No hope of catching up to xel now plus I see neph, though inactive on the forums is making his presence felt in the folding effort!
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Well with my lack of a Nvidia card and owning a heat behemoth 4870X2 folding on the GPU isn't ideal atm, thus i've been sporadically using the SMP client x2 (6cores). BUt Virtue tends to be on my PC hence it's shutdown oft. That aside I have a peepsqueek client running in the office and if YOU can't catch dem men... even less so I. But once men making the effort is all that counts! Good job Neph and Xel!
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'soup guys
since this is somewhat related i decided to post it here instead of another thread.
Foldit is a revolutionary new computer game enabling you to contribute to important scientific research. This page describes the science behind Foldit and how your playing can help.
http://fold.it/ (http://fold.it/)
so even if running a lil smp on your 65W processor is a snore, take a gander at this maybe this will tickle your fancy.
now for some srs business.
I've been thinking the reason some people may not be folding is more than just digital bystander apathy but also because of a serious lack of WHAT folding is...we know what it is meant to accomplish but not WHAT it really is.
After a hair pulling amount of google-fu and some srsly out-of-my-league chemistry i have reached the conclusion... proteins are fking badass. let me break it down to what i understand it to be:
proteins are made up of amino acids...these fuckers are less complex than protiens but they aint no H2O molecule don't be fooled. these proteins start of as 2d strings and through the folding process create a 3d molecule that performs some required\needed function.
These amino acids determine the way the protein folds and what role that macro molecule will play.
It is capable of folding in less time it takes a neuron to fire in your brain. (think ns not ms) this is also why distributed computing is necessary for the research. it happens too fast for observable science to gather any usable data. taking a page straight out of the physicist if we can't observe it and we can't use math quickly enough to understand it...SIMULATE THAT FUCKER!
MATH AND EVERYONE'S PC TO THE RESCUE!
in order to figure out what protein folds (or mis-folds as the case can be sometimes) into what protein structure, the 2d protein is taken and a computer is used to simulate the folding, however, this is such a complex process that a single computer would never be able to finish a single fold in a timely enough manner to make the research progress. So a large database of proteins was developed and using a distributed client, a single possible protein fold is given to a user to figure out (the work unit).
now for the geekout part...
if we overlook the biological nature of the proteins and then look at the way it works...
we have small building blocks (atoms, molecules, ions, zwitters, etc) that make up larger components
amino acids, that in turn combine to give us, you guessed it, proteins.
wow
diodes, transistors, resistors -> addin cards -> systems
lets look at it harder now
the protein fold is determined by the amino acids in the structure...it determines the fold and the fold in turn performs a role...
this is like building a machine...that programs itself...
fking terminator shit yo
however...this is all capable of occurring in under a few nano seconds...
shit brix
biological structures...surpassing your i7 any day...
correct, add, remove as you see fit.
would like to suggest the veteran folders come together and maybe make a sticky to promote the geekier side of the folding...maybe if we could get ppl excited about what the science is behind it we could pull more ppl. Proteins that have roles determined by the sum of their parts. This shit is fucking fascinating.
also the production of screenshot(ed) guides for setting up linux smp/uni clients would be great for the new guys even with all the resources out there, a picture speaks a 1000 words etc etc
gtg
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The ONE entity that trumps all that?
T&TEC :(
Swyped from another Galaxy
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god yes...imagine i found out recently that harnessing ANY kind of power residentially is illegal...fking T&TEC could charge you for using SUN - fuking - LIGHT...might as well hook up a meter to a baigan plant...
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Save solar powered water heaters as those don't actually generate electrical power, but rather use a system akin to a radiator in reverse. They use them in large scale in other caribbean islands, and I recently saw them for sale in TT newspapers. That aside I think it's a good idea Neph and we can work together on it, i've already made a recommendation regarding GATT's new interface and we'll try to promote more as we move forward.
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Arc hit the nail on the head.
I've been very aggressively shutting off computers/laptops left right and center at home because of an ever increasing T&TEC bill.
Maybe if they had folding clients for modems and wireless routers since those devices are on 24/7.
Or perhaps get some income generating activity that could justify our computers being on 24/7 and offset the costs against that.
Could have probably installed it on an office PC that I have on all the time but they've locked down rogue apps.
Thoughts?
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BYOPC?
Leave it on in the office folding away quite happily?
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You trying to get me fired or what?
I hope you putting an extra room in your house for my family to come live. lol
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BYOPC to work folding yes. Lmaooo
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You trying to get me fired or what?
I hope you putting an extra room in your house for my family to come live. lol
ah yes, I forgot the rules are extra tight where you work.
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You trying to get me fired or what?
I hope you putting an extra room in your house for my family to come live. lol
ah yes, I forgot the rules are extra tight where you work.
lol most business places wont just LET you byopc...
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Guys,
May 7th was the ten year Anniversary of our folding efforts.
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WOW, its been that long huh...