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Off Topic => Ole Talk => Politics & Soap Box Rants => Topic started by: rb on April 08, 2010, 03:39:40 PM
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BREAKING NEWS Election date imminent
Parliament to be dissolved at midnight
Thursday, April 8th 2010 3:32 PM
Prime Minister Patrick Manning has advised President George Maxwell Richards to dissolve Parliament, setting the stage for the announcement of an election date.
A news release from the Office of the prime minister, issued this afternoon, states:
In accordance with Section 68 of the Constitution of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago, the Honourable Patrick Manning, Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago today advised His Excellency, President George Maxwell Richards to dissolve the Parliament of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago with effect from midnight, Thursday, April 8, 2010.
His Excellency, President George Maxwell Richards TC CMT Phd has issued the relevant Proclamation.
woot!
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So no Pnm fete???
stuepsss
i had my dollar ready
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lol wonder if it'll have a repeat of 1995 lol sigh this place eh it so messed up it not funny
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nah man, all you could do is laugh
the alternative is to go stark raving mad and bun dong de place
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So question, do you think our PM has made a brilliant move? or a dumb one?
Way I see it he's thinking that the opposition OR LACK THEREOF won't be able to stop their in-fighting quickly enough to mount a proper alternative political party hence him winning AGAIN.
Wildcard... dooks and cams SMART enough to KNOW that manning thinks this and put up a nice front of disunity to lure him into a false sense of security and now that he announce BOOM BANG all is love and the opposition come out to mount the offense this county SO badly needs... of couse its a pipe dread to think he'll have to tuck tail and run like a hart...
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So question, do you think our PM has made a brilliant move? or a dumb one?
Way I see it he's thinking that the opposition OR LACK THEREOF won't be able to stop their in-fighting quickly enough to mount a proper alternative political party hence him winning AGAIN.
Wildcard... dooks and cams SMART enough to KNOW that manning thinks this and put up a nice front of disunity to lure him into a false sense of security and now that he announce BOOM BANG all is love and the opposition come out to mount the offense this county SO badly needs... of couse its a pipe dread to think he'll have to tuck tail and run like a hart...
In this country, surprises are seldom pleasant.
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the rumor is that the PNM itself wants manning gone , but if he calls an election they have no choice but to support him . It may be out of spite : if he cant have government , nobody in the PNM can.. or he's just taking a large chance of loss over a sure chance of being removed by his own party.
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WTMC going on jed, let me see if i can get a green card oui.
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best we form a party and run for government. With the amount of Grand Theft Auto and Battlefield experience we have, should be easy to deal with crime.
First order of business would be to establish a new Ministry of Gaming and Gaming Industries.
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Sounds good to me, Wyatt. Give me the Fighting Division of that Ministry and I'll rule with a Tekken i.e. Iron Fist.
*Ya see wat i did dere?* :sassy:
My guess is something WORSE than UDeCOTT happened and he wants elections to be over with before de mark buss.
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So question, do you think our PM has made a brilliant move? or a dumb one?
Way I see it he's thinking that the opposition OR LACK THEREOF won't be able to stop their in-fighting quickly enough to mount a proper alternative political party hence him winning AGAIN.
Wildcard... dooks and cams SMART enough to KNOW that manning thinks this and put up a nice front of disunity to lure him into a false sense of security and now that he announce BOOM BANG all is love and the opposition come out to mount the offense this county SO badly needs... of couse its a pipe dread to think he'll have to tuck tail and run like a hart...
i like dah storyline
kinda le louch esque
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It's barely been three years since the last election. Not that I'd want to endure the PNM's epic fail any longer, but he shouldn't be allowed to call them before four years are up. Right now, this is rubbing off on me as "my opponents are barely ready and if they're allowed any more time, they might be an actual threat-BOOP! ELECTIONS."
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It's barely been three years since the last election. Not that I'd want to endure the PNM's epic fail any longer, but he shouldn't be allowed to call them before four years are up. Right now, this is rubbing off on me as "my opponents are barely ready and if they're allowed any more time, they might be an actual threat-BOOP! ELECTIONS."
NAh Neo, he definitely should be allowed to call it before the four years are up.
Its a clause built into the constitution to give the people what they want.
IF you vote a party in and they do a 180 and go bat*&^* crazy and really f&*^&*^ up de country. The people can lean on the PM to call early elections
of course thats not what happened, but its very good that the ability to do this exist.
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It's barely been three years since the last election. Not that I'd want to endure the PNM's epic fail any longer, but he shouldn't be allowed to call them before four years are up. Right now, this is rubbing off on me as "my opponents are barely ready and if they're allowed any more time, they might be an actual threat-BOOP! ELECTIONS."
NAh Neo, he definitely should be allowed to call it before the four years are up.
Its a clause built into the constitution to give the people what they want.
IF you vote a party in and they do a 180 and go bat*&^* crazy and really f&*^&*^ up de country. The people can lean on the PM to call early elections
of course thats not what happened, but its very good that the ability to do this exist.
In fact, i wish they would call elections every year
so every year would be an election year
and roads go get pave and man go get water and place go get clean
basically a performance review that determines whether or not they stay in power.
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This is a well-thoughtout strategy but it shows us that one thing is certain; Patrick Manning worships satan. Either that or his cognitive dissonance is massive and he is far more interested in himself then he is in the country. I can only hope that some members of the PNM would grow a spine and stop his mad reign.
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'Cognitive dissonance' indeed.
I think you might just be right about that one.
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I think he's also right about him being more interested in himself than the country... I mean isn't this obvious?
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Actually, the way I see it now is that he called elections to head off the No Confidence motion that would've been debated had Par-LIAR-ment not been dissolved. He probably figured that he'd have a better shot at winning elections than surving the motion in the face of:
UDeCOTT (Nuff said.)
WASA's epic failure (Who TF is surrounded by water and STILL undergoes a MC DROUGHT?)
WASA scandal (In the midst of the aformentioned drought, ppl using potable water to fill a SWIMMING POOL!)
Gary C. H unt's $2M flag idea. (You mean his middle name isn't "Chester"? My bad.)
Turning on Keith Rowley (Who was vindicated when de Calder Hart mark buss, Rowley - 1, Manning - 0.)
So... When it's a pick between elections knowing T&T's retarded system and even more retarded voting populus and a No Confidence motion knowing the ammo stockpiled and aimed at you, Manning made the smartest choice: Go for the possible win, not the definite loss.
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I think he would have survived the no confidence motion, after all the govt still outnumbers the opposition by a good margin. Word is that Kamla was gonna buss some files on the Calder Hart/Manning connection in the house where they can speak without getting sued. I'm not sure what Manning's gameplan is but he thinks that he can win.
If anything the UNC/COP will join forces with UNC reps fighting the normal strongholds, and COP reps fighting Marginals/PNM Strongholds.
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^That sounds like a plan... Problem is I don't trust anything UNC related as far as I can PEE. I still think Bas has his hooks in there somehow.
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I was contemplating whether to open a new thread or to post in this, well obviously you see the result in light of what's going on (atm it's 10:11pm 24-05-2010) it appears history is being made and we will see our first female Prime Minister!
PS i'll change the name to make it solid.
We are seeing some MAJOR upsets, seats that were safe are evenly contested, a few strongholds seem to have fallen... 30-12 (atm)...
Black Eyed Peas - I Gotta Feeling (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSD4vsh1zDA#ws)
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The magic number is 27 btw....keep an eye on that. 27 or more, means they can pass legislation for reform without opposition.
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PNM, this one's for you.
Dx Entrance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSuqOeEoz4U&feature=related#)
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(http://skepticalteacher.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/pwned-facekick.jpg)
(http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/files/1/3/9/1/0/pwned.jpg)
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(http://gonzogeek.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/pwned.jpg)
(http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/pwned8_20090902_2025217188.jpg)
(http://www.freewebs.com/ut3kowclan/pwned%20DH.jpg)
AHAHAHAHAHA...it GOOOOOD!!!!!
I feel like calling my PNM-die-hard mother and rubbing her face in it with a big 'IT GOOD!!!' Bad Company 2 style. :laughing6:
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^^ lol, arc you not easy. Though by no means am i a UNC or PNM supporter, i did support change. I am glad that uncle pat can run off and spend some time with his prophetess and leave the running of the country to someone better suited at this time.
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lolz @ Arc
i agree with UG
but i didn't think it would be such ah EPIC landslide
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Did anyone else receive a text from 796-0132? I don't know who this person is but they made it their business to send me an anti-PNM text and when I call the number to ask who it is, I get no answer. WTF?
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I must concur this margin of victory was unexpected.
It was like watching WI play Australia in Cricket...
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Mamoru Takamura becomes the Japanese Champion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxc72R2AD6w#)
I was reminded of that for some reason. Although the PP is nowhere as epic as Takamura.
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As we say in Bad Company 2...........SSSSTEAMROLL!!!!
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lol @ steamroll, same thing we was saying on mumble earlier.
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LMAO!!!! anybody see kamla try to sing and dance to bob. Funniest sh!t of the night.
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Yessssssssssssssssssssss we wonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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Never mind... It was a wrong number. I can already tell that silly season is FAR from over. Let the tribal idiocy continue. o_O
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Message for the PNM supporters on the forum
(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/28/Obama_GTFO.gif) (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=3844)
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^^ lol. You not easy notodd! Here every creed and race find an equal place...but not PNM supporters... LMAO
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^^ lol. You not easy notodd! Here every creed and race find an equal place...but not PNM supporters... LMAO
lol
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(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p29/moozon/funny/Epic%20Fail/fail_cow_vs_epicfail_cow_epiclosers.jpg)
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Scrubs Elliot's New 'I Told You So' Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOMk5GWvlks#ws)
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Didn't predict Arima and La Horquetta/Talparo going to the PP. Only truly surprising things to me.
Anyway. 25th May. SSDD. We still have no hope.
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The country has voted for change, now let's hope its change for the good. Let's hope they nail hart ass first to the jail wall and ALL THOSE ASSOCIATED with that whole sham. Let's hope that ppl will stop playing the race card, the losers are losers and they have been good enough sports about it imho, the winners need to prove themselves of all the promises they made, AND THEY HAVE MADE ALOT. Let's hope the last regime didn't clean out the treasury and leave the incumbent with a debt that would make Japan after WWII shudder....
And just btw, if ANYONE and I do mean ANYONE on this forum plays that race card here, i'll PERSONALLY issue the VI status into effect! We can have good clean pecong, but we're all considered civilized until proven otherwise. Keep it clean ppl we're all GAMERS!
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So does that mean I can't tell dem dutty, stinkin PNM to haul dey mc? :laughing7:
Anyway. 25th May. SSDD. We still have no hope.
Humour me for a bit with an elaboration on this.
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There were some stuff I agreed with Mr.Manning on but most I disagreed with, however I still felt sad for him when I saw him last night. Yes it was self inflicted but its still a hard pill to swallow when you realise your career has come to an end. I'll give him props for a speech that was 10000000 times better than the vindictive speech Panday gave when he lost.
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Imagine a girl call a radio station just now, crying her heart out because PNM lose...
HOW do you get so brainwashed by a political party that it leads to actual TEARS when they lose office?
I wish I could call just to say: 'it GOOD!!!'
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So does that mean I can't tell dem dutty, stinkin PNM to haul dey mc? :laughing7:
Anyway. 25th May. SSDD. We still have no hope.
Humour me for a bit with an elaboration on this.
SSDD is same shit different day
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^^ How do you ... easy! LACK OF EDUCATION. Anyone who blindly follows anything suffers from it. Thank god i am around educated ppl here.
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I was positively giddy last night.
Seriously, this time it was personal. There's lots of people in PNM I dislike, Colm Imbert, Conrad Enil, Jerry Narace, Martin Joseph etc but there's a special level of HATE that Patrick has cultivated over the past few years.
Never been a PNM supporter but I definitely can't say I ever personally disliked him at any point, even in the 18-18 and when he outright won in 2002. It was just business, just politics.
All the s*** we've put up with since then though has made this personal, as anyone who watched campaign ads can see. And accordingly, it felt GOOD seeing him downcast and beaten last night. I looked forward to his concession more than Kamla's acceptance.
Time to him to hit the backbench imo, give Rowley a shot. Manning still has his good points (there's no better speaker currently in politics for example) but at this point he's as stigmatizing as Bas was. Plus I can't imagine the PNM MPs wanting much to do with him. It's hard enough transitioning from a Govt minister to opposition MP, how much harder when you know you should have had at least 2.5 more years before it happened.
All props to the coalition, didn't expect such a beat down. I'm VERY interested now in seeing what the ministerial appointments are. Hopefully Dooks as Finance, god knows we need a Finance minister who actually knows about economics (such a novel idea!).
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Nah man arc, pecong is healthy, is if men start to play the race card i'll whip out VI!
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I don't expect miracles to happen, crime won't fall immediately, employment numbers won't magically rise etc. What I do know is that I wasn't happy with the past few years in terms of government spending.
I assume some of those that are upset about the PNM loss is due to the fact that they had something to gain, whether individually or through some family member. The fact is that the majority was not satisfied and the whole race thing is stupid.
I was surprised at the huge margin, thought it would have been a much closer race.
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The margin was huge...I was shocked to the point that I drank till 3 this morning. But I guess we'll have to see wats gonna go on for the next few years. Like a fellow Gatter said here earlier, I hope too that they keep the tertiary level education based programmes and loans, as well as the educational programmes....and I hope (I don't give a m****f*** what y'all think or say) that they don't appoint the "Honorable" Jack Warner, Minister of Finance.....
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according to the honourable mp for san fernando.. which ever one
Employment is at an all time high, 5.4%
And you see WANTED signs everywhere... there are loads of jobs available...what exactly are people doing that they can afford to not take these jobs.
AND VERY GOOD POINT ABOUT leaving government early.
I hear man take out mortgage and car loan and so on and so forth on the premise that they had ah 5 years to pay it in...
pressure for dem
Good riddance @ Karen and a certain Minister of uneducation
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Good riddance @ Karen and a certain Minister of uneducation
LMAO
Crixx you not easy nuh...lol minister of unedcuation
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The margin was huge...I was shocked to the point that I drank till 3 this morning. But I guess we'll have to see wats gonna go on for the next few years. Like a fellow Gatter said here earlier, I hope too that they keep the tertiary level education based programmes and loans, as well as the educational programmes....and I hope (I don't give a m****f*** what y'all think or say) that they don't appoint the "Honorable" Jack Warner, Minister of Finance.....
There's certain things you can't just take back. Social programs being the major thing. GATE is going nowhere unless we end up in a financial crisis like the late 80s. Neither is CEPEP.
And Jack won't be minister of Finance (lol @ all the Warner hate). If I had to guess I'd say National Security, Works, Foreign Affairs or Trade. I hope it's security, whatever hate people have for Jack there's one thing no one can deny, the man can make things happen.
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whatever hate people have for Jack there's one thing no one can deny, the man can make things happen.
that's true
and he made was in one of the funniest vids I've scene in years LMAO
Andrew Jennings: how much money did you make?
Jack Warner: Ask your mother.
AJ:Ask my...
JW: Ask your mother.
AJ: My mother's dead now actually but thank you for reminding me of tha--
JW: Go find her, find her!
AJ: Thank you so much Mr. Warner, Thank you
lol priceless bastard
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The fact is social programs will be cut if they can't be afforded. This matters not to who is in power, UNC or PNM. Hopefully there will always be a successful economy to keep these.
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^I'm not trying to be any race war starter, but my question is will there be any discrimination with the admission of these funds to pursue a tertiary education. I know alot of people are worried about this right now especially with rumors of UTT being closed.
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I cannot see things like GATE and other education/employment programmes just vanishing the minute uncle P. leaves. Things like these that people rely on are probably going to shift in terms of priority but outright removal is simply not viable
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I really hope GATE remains
I looking to apply for it brisk, brisk when I start my degree later this year..
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Yes didn't she make it clear that they are keeping that and will work on expanding it.
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It was made quite clear that GATE would be expanded to include technical and vocational training courses as well...so lets put to rest all that 'Kamla tekkin way GATE' talk.
I blame Manning for putting that STUPID idea into voters' heads.
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She did make it clear
But the PNMites never bothered to read or listen to what she was saying they just went on the fervor that was fed to them
BUT again, The UNCOPTOPLMNOPRQSTUV is suffering from the same lack of information dissemination and communication pitfalls as the last government did.
But is there first day and we cant expect them to dispel all the campaign fear mongering in one day.
Just like the will of the people voted them in
The people are genuinely concerned about possible racial discrimination, whether or not they have a reason to be afraid is unimportant, it should be addressed.
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^I'm not trying to be any race war starter, but my question is will there be any discrimination with the admission of these funds to pursue a tertiary education. I know alot of people are worried about this right now especially with rumors of UTT being closed.
Why would they close UTT if there is a growing demand for education and an expanded GATE program?
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its just what i heard, not really a fact.
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To sustain even 50% of the promises in the PP manifesto the following may need to take place, though not necessarily in the first year.
1) devaluation of TT dollar
2) re evaluation of certain taxes (which could lead to increases)
3) sale of partial equity into various state assets
4) corporate leasing of all un-occupied UDECOTT buildings
5) development of other industries such as manufacturing and agriculture
6) re evaluation of all social outreach programmes.
Those seem reasonable due to a revenue shortfall.
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how is devaluation of our tt dollar resonable.
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To sustain even 50% of the promises in the PP manifesto the following may need to take place, though not necessarily in the first year.
1) devaluation of TT dollar
2) re evaluation of certain taxes (which could lead to increases)
3) sale of partial equity into various state assets
4) corporate leasing of all un-occupied UDECOTT buildings
5) development of other industries such as manufacturing and agriculture
6) re evaluation of all social outreach programmes.
Thank you for the summary. I'm sure you have about a hundred excel worksheets that you used to figure this all.
You've got absolutely no idea what the specifics of expenditure are and neither does anyone else. Spare us the armchair economist.
Devaluation of the dollar is about the dumbest idea ever for an economy that is import dependent on the most basic of needs (food for example). A devaluation means an instant increase in the price level which requires across the board increases in salaries which will fuel the lovely increase in inflation and precautionary wage increase demands that will turn our dollar into something as useful as the guardian paper man does wrap fish in.
Short term revenue shortfalls are dealt with in the bond market.
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Wasn't that same list published in a newspaper after input from real economists some time ago?
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Just in the same way there are fears of x y z being discontinued, there is a b c reasons that it will continue. In similar fashion to sustain certain promises made by the current incumbent, measures will have to be made, WHAT they are, WHEN they will be implemented and WHO will be affected most isn't something ANYONE knows, inclusive of the new leaders i'm sure. EVERYONE has ideas and EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR IDEAS. If we can't express those ideas and have ppl respond in mature civilzed manners VI will be instituted and posts NUKED. I'm just watching from the sidelines here and ppl remember that political threads by their very nature can ERRUPT into a war of words. So be open minded and patient.
If you're scared and have ur reasons fine, if someone tries to offer some sort of peace of mind, leave it as just that. Don't let the animousity build over unfactual information ppl!
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Wasn't that same list published in a newspaper after input from real economists some time ago?
Economics allows, by its very nature, a person to craft situations, circumstances and dilemmas in whatever way and shape they want. Ask 5 economists for a solution to a problem, and you'll get about 20 solutions.
It's no different from the doom and gloom prophets who, if they had it right, the U.S. economy would have collapsed under the weight of its debt and unfunded liabilities, lost their AAA rating and seen the dollar die as the world's vehicle currency. These gentlemen are among those who had their PhD minted at Harvard and the like, and who are well respected in the academic circles that share their political and economic outlook.
Undoubtedly new expenditure requires new measures, be it raising new capital or diversion of existing capital. But currency devaluation is basically NEVER used to create more local currency. Even at the height of the PNM spending spree, with USD payments required to all these foreign contractors who are repatriating all their profits, devaluation was never considered by the government.
We've got 13 months of import coverage, which is way above what is suggested. Until and unless we end up in some kind of balance of payments crisis we're not going to see a devaluation.
There's a million things a government can technically do to improve their fiscal position. Devaluation is certainly one, but we're not anywhere even close to the position where that should even be considered. Frankly it's no different that saying that the government seizing the savings accounts of citizens is one of the things (happened in Argentina, not talking out my ass here), but that ain't happening either.
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A weakened dollar doesn't necessarily promote a healthier manufacturing industry. It definitely does promote a more competitive manufacturing sector. TTMA would love a devaluation. Imports become more expensive, exports become cheaper. But local manufacturers are now given a degree of protection based on the exchange rate. Very common for companies to get too comfortable to the advantage they're given due to the exchange rate, stifling improvements in innovation and productivity.
For the record, we don't actually know what our deficit is atm. Oil/gas prices are very different to what they were at the time of the budget, being now higher of course. Additionally, our deficit is fueled by massive fiscal overreaching by the government which needs to be reined in.
Devaluation for the reason you mentioned can be seen as needed in cases where the manufacturing sector are extremely uncompetitive and have low demand for their goods, but we're not there. And I think agriculture at this point is far more about fulfilling domestic demand, which has no bearing on a devaluation.
Viewed strictly for the purposes of servicing short run deficits, bonds are a better alternative right now.Float the bonds, balance the books with fiscal policy.
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No smelter, no property tax, no Revenue Authority.....all well and good.
but what I want to know....What about the bandwidth crisis?
We want Bandwidth for all in the year 2020! (True broadband!)
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No smelter, no property tax, no Revenue Authority.....all well and good.
but what I want to know....What about the bandwidth crisis?
We want Bandwidth for all in the year 2020! (True broadband!)
We just
New Mavado - Hope And Pray (2009) + Lyrics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_sCUd2I1z0#)
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And 4G for our phones too (not by 2020 tho, that too far)!!
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Where did this 60% GATE rumour begin, btw? People are repeating it so much that I'm inclined to believe we missed something.
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Pretty sure it began with naysayers trying to downplay the opposition and scare younger voters into thinking GATE and free education would go bye-bye if they (opposition) won
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Yup on the news tonight they showed a bunch of teenagers crying at Balisier House since they not getting their free education anymore :s
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Was them self, only saying that if Kamla won that she would remove GATE , UTT and Costaatt. If only ppl weren't so blind eh.
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Far as i remember it was the cur gov't who started gate, well dollar for dollar, and i admire the PNM for taking it a step further when greater revenues came in to make it completely free. Doing away with gate in any way shape or form is just a bad idea however you look at it. The pp as far as i know of their campaigning was all about education, agriculture, technology and alternative power sources (clean power) <- truly inspired thinking really, as well as a host of other "ludicrous promises" (you kno the we go give all yuh dis and dat, kinda the equivalent to paving roads if yuh not in power)<- that turned me off bad.
I am giving PP 1 year to prove themselves, i don't mean a reduction in crime immediately etc, but i want to see them move to put new structures and policies in place to support the economy, making it self sustaining in another sector other than oil and gas,
> do away with the smelter and the rapid rail,
> continue the road expansion project that uncle patos started (though was originally planned since unc days),
> continue to expand air and sea bridges between trinidad and tobago,
> set up for police retraining,
> move to computerize the public offices and TRAIN EMPLOYEES in effective use of these systems,
> open back discussion in constitutional reform,
> COMPLETELY REMOVE ALL TAXES ON ANY COMPUTER RELATED ITEM! and finally,
> open a cool web portal sanctioned by the government for public opinions on national issues, through polls and discussion boards.
Mobilization on these items will mean to me that they are about change, and not just the thought of it. Oh it will be cool to see CH and uncle PATOS held accountable for the UDCOTT thingy, as PANDAY was for the AIRPORT
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Crixx, what's VI?
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VI is Village Idiot
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Voluptuous Indian.
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Giving 1 year is by no means generous, as was said (by you no?) we have no real idea what the deficit is or for that matter what the last regime left the current to cope with or pay off, so i'd venture a year is MIGHTY brief for them to make major turn arounds, look at the US, Obama is catching his ASS to keep ANY of his promises but that's a different debatable kettle of fish. And BTW I have a friend who worked (note past tense) Vinci (yuh know that little french canadian company doing the SMALL projects like the overpass @ grand bazaar, and just to let ppl know THEY DIDN'T GET PAID YET, so i'd venture to say alot of contractors HAVE NOT BEEN PAID YET... imagine that... hmm a couple hundred million to pay contractors still... hmm yeah... 1 year is SURELY enough time for them to turn around.. just saying.
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stop makin excuses w1ntry!
the country say they want change, not excuses.
If PP ain't deliver change they might have to give the bakrs a chance next. lol
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i agree with pnm being held accountable to show no one is above the law...may save him some face later on...
as for the bakrs hmmm we will certainly have less rapes lol
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Its not excuses it's reality, I giving them 2 years, cause they have 1 to undo damage that patos do and 1 year to make good on their promises. You can't stop an oil tanker on a dime.
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Nah w1n, 1 year is not to get all this things done, but to start to put the necessary procedures and policies in place to get those things done. I myself am quite uncertain about the financial state of the country (though i can ask my brother, he is an analyst in finance ministry), and that uncertainty means they have mess to clean. I just want to see them work on policies for mobilization of the above. Truly only time will tell (i mean we gave pnm 8 years and time certainly did tell), so 1 year to see how the start to enact "change" and the other 4 to be fair to the new gov't.
And that financial "uncertainty" is the reason why she should have stop making promises.
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And that financial "uncertainty" is the reason why she should have stop making promises.
I Agree with this, I heard some of those promises (laptops for all children) and I was like... O_O... ummm un momento por favor!
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Had a quick chat with my bro this morning, we aren't too badly off financially at the moment, so we should see some good things happening
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lol so who want to take me up on this prediction...
promises not fullfilled.. and they would blame it on financial deficit... (like all the money done JUST as they reach in power ;))
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@ Larutus
Euro would be the worst possible peg atm. Same with the pound. Euro is almost in freefall because of PIIGS and is trading at 4 year lows with analysts expecting it to hit PPP value, which would require another 10% depreciation. Pegging to a stronger currency is all about maintaining stability, euro is too uncertain. And pound is of course getting rocked in the wake of euro's problems. Another reason why USD is still best is because energy contracts are paid in USD. If our foreign currency inflow is mainly USD, a US peg is best.
US aren't in downturn. They certainly aren't booming but they've been officially out of recession since August. Consumer confidence is continually building, the only reason the stock markets are getting hammered is because of the news from across the pond.
Ah, ok. I consider fertilizer to be more of a manufacturing industry. No objections. I thought you meant actual food.
I think that anyone who is too worried about the PP governing strategy should console themselves with one ever present (and extremely UNfortunate) fact): it's just a different side of the same coin. There's no ideological difference here, just a different kind of conservative. There's not going to be any massive shift in policy like in other countries when positions shift to socialist, conservative and middling liberal.
Unfortunately we have absolutely no ideological choice whatsoever here, because both parties are just a different flavour of the same brand of tea. Probably one of the things that allows the race political divide to exist (and enough about that).
So all the people decrying that the end of days is near can relax, general government policy not going to change too much. What we can and should hope for is that the methods they use to implement their own ideas is more effective than what we saw under PNM.
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Exar_Kun that is an excellent point indeed @ same general government policy
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found this on tuner
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^^ lol, lar, thats almost exactly what i had in mind
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and panday for president.
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all the one year and two year we waiting to measure the performance of the new government....
120 Days.. That's the time it would take to measure their performance...
That is how long they said it would take them to accomplish 32 Items... so after 120 days... those 32 items should be checked of and out of the way.
So initial performance appraisal should ideally be based on that.
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Interesting selections. Glad that Jack is in a power ministry. He's definitely going to tear it up. And hopefully the UNC trend of choosing former military officers as National Security will result in the lower level of crime we saw in those days.
But OMG, Minister of Health! Therese Baptiste-Cornelis, my favourite lecturer from UWI! That's the smartest freakin lecturer in management department. She doesn't know how to fail, I'm sure she'll get the health system in shape in no time at all. And a more principled person you couldn't possibly find.
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Sure, not a problem.
Therese Baptiste-Cornelis. B.Sc in Math and Computer Science at UWI, M.B.A. at University of British Columbia, currently pursuing Ph.D at UWI in Entrepreneurship. She lectures at UWI in the department of management studies, she's the lecturer in strategy and entrepreneurship. Also has lectured at ROYTEC (strategy) and Lok Jack (Management Information Systems). Actually she would have taught Kamla, Wade Mark etc at Lok Jack when they were all doing their MBAs together. Her husband is Belgian, she's lived in Belgium and they have a business consulting company together. Very highly regarded in the field of management information systems, I saw a production of Harvard University on IT in T&T that she has co-credit on, the Harvard guy specifically sent the people to her to help. For the past election she ran the strategy for Fuad Khan's campaign. Anyone who went to the local meetings in that constituency might have seen her talking.
My personal observations. Excellent speaker, well organized and very quick thinking. She's not just another academic, definite real world experience and she can solve practical problems. Very principled and takes her ethics very seriously, not just a talker when it comes to that. As a lecturer she was always very approachable and helpful even when it came to work outside her courses.
I think if the problems at health are anything managerial and IT related, she's gonna do great things over there.
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Study that Stacy (Oropouche West) I marked course work for in UWI... she was 2 years below me in Elec and Comp Eng... XD
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Wait wait wait.....she taught me while I went to Roytec. Waw congrats to her!!! Yeah hopefully she would be able to do some shaking up in how management works in the health system.