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Windows Phone 8 in detail: new Start Screen, multi-core support, VoIP integration, and NFC
Microsoft's latest mobile operating system gets its grand unveiling
By Tom Warren on June 20, 2012 12:53 pm
Source (http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/20/3096667/windows-phone-8-screenshots-features-nfc-start-screen-dual-core)
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Microsoft is lifting the curtain to provide a preview of some of the software and hardware changes for its Windows Phone 8 operating system today. NFC, dual- and quad-core support are all set, and Microsoft has shifted over to the NT kernel for Windows Phone 8 to make it even easier for developers to code for its mobile and desktop ecosystems. There's a new Wallet hub, deeper integration of Skype, and an updated Start Screen interface with support for small tiles. Despite the improvements and hardware support, Microsoft will not release this particular update to existing devices. Instead, the company plans to rollout a Windows Phone 7.8 update separately that will bring some of Windows Phone 8’s user interface changes to existing devices, but many of the other improvements will require new hardware.
After shipping an initial Windows Phone 7 release in November 2010 and a major 7.5 "Mango" update less than a year ago, Microsoft’s mobile efforts excel in some areas but also lack the big name app support and feature sets of its rivals iOS and Android. While Microsoft isn't discussing all of its Windows Phone 8 features today, it's clear the fundamental platform change will help the company achieve feature parity in some areas, greater support for a wide range of hardware, and ultimately attract new users to Windows Phone. Discover the first details about Windows Phone 8 right here.
Windows Core for Windows Phone 8
The biggest change in Windows Phone 8 is Microsoft's transition to the NT kernel and related operating system elements — defined as the Windows Core. Steve Ballmer and company have been hinting at the change for months, but Microsoft is detailing this fully today. Windows Phone 8 will share the same kernel, file system, media foundation, device drivers, and parts of the security model from Windows 8. While this might seem like overkill for a phone operating system, the core elements of the Windows NT architecture will allow Windows Phone 8 to support multi-core processors, device encryption, removable storage with microSD cards, and a whole host of improvements for IT pros and businesses.
Developers will also benefit from a shared Windows Core in Windows Phone 8. Rather than taking advantage of the .NET Compact Framework in Windows Phone 7, Windows Phone 8 moves to a Core CLR which will allow managed code to run in a manner identical to how it runs on desktop Windows, with improved performance benefits and shared components for developers to leverage across desktop and phone apps. Despite this change, all 100,000 existing Windows Phone apps will continue to run on Windows Phone 8. "We architected Windows Phone 8 in a way to drive full application compatibility so that every existing application will continue to run," says Microsoft's Larry Lieberman. Developers will get access to new tools and an updated SDK later this summer that are based on Visual Studio 2012 — supporting apps for both Windows Phone and Windows Phone 8.
"Developers will be able to leverage one codebase to drive an application," says Lieberman. "They can use one code base to build applications that will run across Windows Phone and Windows 8 devices." The changes also mean that developers can use native C and C++ libraries, alongside SQLite and Direct X support. "This means is that it's going to be radically simpler for games studios to port their games to Windows Phone," explains Lieberman. "Developers will be able to build games for Windows and Windows Phone at the same time."
Developers will be able to build games for Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 at the same time
With a shift to the shared NT kernel, Microsoft brings with it an array of support for multi-core processors and device drivers. "We have support for dual-core, quad-core, octo-core, in theory as many as 64-cores," says Lieberman, all as a direct result of the move to the Windows 8 Kernel. Although Microsoft isn't discussing hardware specifics and device announcements, the company is confirming there will be dual-core handsets initially. Those handsets will also support two new screen resolutions introduced in Windows Phone 8. Nokia, Huawei, Samsung, and HTC will all launch Windows Phone 8 hardware across 180 countries.
Windows Phone 8 will support three resolutions in total: WVGA, WXGA, and 720p. Discussing the various leaks about Windows Phone 8, Microsoft's Greg Sullivan confirmed to us that the company did have another resolution under consideration. "It was essentially 640 x 480 for a type of device that we're not gonna do." Microsoft dropped the idea primarily because of the disparity in aspect ratio and the impact on app developers. The three screen resolutions supported in Windows Phone 8 will have similar aspect ratios (two at 15:9 and one at 16:9) to ensure there's no separation in classes of applications. "A developer doesn't need to do anything to take advantage of the new screen resolutions," says Lieberman. "We will automatically scale all of the assets of the application appropriately." App developers will have the opportunity to optimize their apps with higher resolution imagery and additional assets, but they won't have to.
"Google has the NFC payment part, Apple has the Passbook thing, we'll have both."
Microsoft will also officially support NFC directly within the Windows Phone operating system for the first time. Windows Phone 8 includes a new Wallet hub designed to support NFC payments and the ability to store credit card information, member cards, and frequent flier cards. "Google has the NFC payment part, Apple has the Passbook thing, we'll have both," says Sullivan. You can expect to see a variety of partnerships for NFC payments, including Chase bank, and Orange France. Microsoft is also showing off a way to surface deals in its Wallet hub, using Groupon to show a deal panel in the panorama of the hub itself. Additionally, there's a new feature called Tap + Send that takes advantage of Windows Phone 8's NFC hardware support. Similar to Android's Beam function, it allows you to bump a phone against another device to share content. Microsoft is integrating the tap feature into Windows 8 so content can be easily shared across the two operating systems.
Another big hardware change in Windows Phone 8 is full SD support, thanks again to the Windows 8 kernel. SD cards will act like removable external storage in Windows Phone 8, allowing users to transfer music, photos, video, and even install applications. Existing SD card support in Windows Phone 7 was always troublesome. Intended to be used only by the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM), only certain SD cards would work well enough to extend the storage system and the card could not be removed and used in another device. It was ugly and the majority of manufacturers opted to ditch micro SD slots on recent devices as a result. The new support will only be available to Windows Phone 8 devices, not existing Windows Phone 7 ones with SD slots.
Windows Phone 8 user interface
The main Windows Phone 8 user interface change that Microsoft is showing right now is its improved Start Screen. "We're going to have three sizes of live tiles, small, medium, and large," says Sullivan, pointing out that the existing ones in Windows Phone 7 are medium and large versions. "The small tiles will enable us to fit more on the start screen, and to have things that don't require a lot of real estate to convey information." Inline with this change, Microsoft is also expanding the screen real-estate that you’re going to be able to place live tiles on. The trough along the right hand side of the Start Screen will now be filled with tiles. "It's going to fill up the whole screen," explains Sullivan.
Users will also get the ability to customize the size of every tile, so each one can now be small, medium, or large. Likewise, developers will now be able to create a custom large tile — something that was previously reserved for OEMs and Microsoft’s first party hubs in Windows Phone 7. Microsoft has updated its first-party apps to take advantage of the smaller tiles, and the company will automatically generate smaller tiles for third-party applications — providing developers with an option to create a custom version too. Although Microsoft isn’t discussing any further UI changes, the company is also showing off more color customization and personalization options for the new Start Screen in Windows Phone 8. Microsoft is also adopting Windows 8's Metro style logo for new Windows Phone 8 devices.
http://youtu.be/25DKXGKblOw
Skype and VoIP integration
We touched on Microsoft’s new Wallet NFC hub in Windows Phone 8, but the company has created other ways to extend existing hubs. "There's been discussion about native Skype integration," says Sullivan. "That's not really how I'd characterize this." Microsoft is building in the APIs and infrastructure to support generalized VoIP applications in Windows Phone 8, including Skype and others. "Skype largely will just be an application that you'll be able to download that will take advantage of the VoIP integration that we think will be industry leading," explains Sullivan. The integration means VoIP applications will become a full first-class app on Windows Phone 8 handsets, allowing them to integrate into the phone dialer, People Hub, and more. Sullivan believes the integration is so good that he jokes Apple should create its own FaceTime app on Windows Phone 8, "it'll actually be better integrated on Windows Phone than it is on the iPhone." The functionality is clearly a platform by itself, allowing app developers to plug into it in a seamless way. "Skype is fully gonna take advantage of that," says Sullivan, "but it'll still be an app you download."
Microsoft is also demonstrating its updated Internet Explorer 10 browser on Windows Phone 8. The new and improved browser borrows the same desktop code used in the Windows 8 Internet Explorer 10 variant, and brings with it some security-related improvements. Internet Explorer 10 mobile will include a phishing filter and Microsoft's SmartScreen URL reputation system — allowing Windows Phone 8 users to leverage the data used across millions of Windows systems to warn against malicious sites and phishing schemes. The company isn't revealing a whole lot more about its browser update for Windows Phone 8, although previous leaks suggest it might be preparing to leverage built-in server-side compression to reduce data usage.
Another big takeaway from today’s announcements is Microsoft’s work with Nokia. After announcing its partnership with the Finnish handset maker in early 2011, the pair have worked together on a range of Lumia handsets. Nokia is announcing today that it will be distributing a software update to enable internet tethering on its Lumia 710 and 800 handsets. That’s not the only announcement for today though. We knew Bing and Nokia’s Map technologies were slowly aligning, but Microsoft is taking that even further in Windows Phone 8. "Nokia Maps will now fuel the first party map experience on the device," explains Lieberman, "it will be available to third party developers as a control to add to their applications." The change will see Nokia’s NAVTEQ data fuel the mapping experience in Windows Phone 8 and "in a lot of other places too" for Microsoft’s services. Nokia Maps will bring support for offline maps and better global coverage of mapping data — something that Microsoft’s Bing Maps lacked previously. Microsoft isn’t saying exactly how the experience will be branded, but Lieberman says it’s "going to be very clear to users" that it’s fuelled by Nokia data.
Enterprise and business features
The final highlight from today’s sneak peek at Windows Phone 8 is a renewed focus on enterprise and business users. After years of failed attempts with Windows Mobile to capture enterprise market share from RIM’s BlackBerry devices, many believed Windows Phone 7 would focus on this particular crowd of users. "In some ways...we regressed in terms of enterprise functionality from an IT pro standpoint with Windows Phone 7," admits Sullivan. "With this shift to the Core, we will regain and attract beyond what we had [in Windows Mobile 6.5] in terms of the IT pro features." One big aspect for big business and enterprise users is on-device encryption, something that Microsoft plans to support in Windows Phone 8. Microsoft is also adding support for device management, internal line-of-business software, and a private marketplace for application distribution in the enterprise. "Some of the key things that our enterprise and IT customers have been asking for will be enabled," promises Sullivan, a move that will please Microsoft’s crowd of IT pros who had been calling for such features.
Microsoft’s event today is only a sneak peek at where Windows Phone 8 is heading, outlining the Windows Core changes and some features to expect in future handsets — a demonstration that feels like a reaction to a number of recent leaks. "We're not showing all of Windows Phone," explains Sullivan. "We're really just showing some of the platform elements, primarily relevant to developers and IT pros." Microsoft is taking a secret approach for some other end user capabilities that the company plans to introduce closer to availability. "Our hope is that we'll be able to keep some of the stuff secret until closer to launch," says Sullivan, which indicates that this is only a small glimpse at Microsoft’s plans. "We are not talking about any other UI changes...the rest you’ll be hearing about later."
existing Windows Phone users might feel a little left out by the sweeping hardware changes that are coming
So, when is Windows Phone 8 arriving? Much like Microsoft’s Surface tablet devices, the company isn’t disclosing availability dates just yet. "We’re saying fall for availability of new phones running Windows Phone 8," says Sullivan. Existing Windows Phone 7.x users will also receive the 7.8 update around that time, bringing UI updates and other undisclosed "core customer experiences." From our early discussions with Microsoft it appears Windows Phone 8 is still very much a work in progress at this stage, but the company is planning some type of program to seed developers with pre-release hardware — as its done in the past for Mango. The update feels like a promising one for potential Windows Phone candidates, but we get the feeling existing Windows Phone users might feel a little left out by the sweeping hardware changes that are coming. The company is clearly trying to address some changes in its phone operating system by appeasing existing users with an update, but it’s unclear at this stage exactly how much functionality Windows Phone 7.8 will gain from its 8.0 counterpart.
Nevertheless, Microsoft is taking a giant step towards a future where developers can write once and run everywhere (Windows, Windows Phone, Xbox) with some minor tweaks and changes. Such a step might open its phone platform to the quality apps it so badly needs and deserves. Although SDK and developer tools details are thin on the ground, it appears as though Microsoft has addressed some common complaints around application development for Windows Phone. Metro is about to get its biggest test yet with Windows 8 in a few months time. If Windows 8’s Metro style applications are a hit then that’s bound to benefit Windows Phone 8 too, as developers have an easier way to share common code across each platform. Alternatively there’s the possibility that app developers will stick to the x86 platform and continue to push desktop apps, avoiding Microsoft’s Metro world. It seems unlikely that developers would want to ignore an opportunity on millions of potential Windows 8 PCs and phones, but a number of them have ignored Windows Phone so far. Now it seems Microsoft is willing to partially ignore its existing user base of Windows Phone 7 users in its strive towards greater hardware support and features in Windows Phone 8. Microsoft’s vague details on Windows Phone 7.8 leave it as an unknown entity that could generate ill-feeling towards the company from recent, or even early Windows Phone adopters.
Whatever happens, there’s a lot more to Windows Phone 8 than Microsoft has unveiled today. Whether that results in some feature improvements across the board, backported to Windows Phone 7.8, remains to be seen — but Microsoft will be hopeful that its small taster session will be enough to satisfy Windows Phone fans for now.
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wow, just wow
+1 to you sir
(can't believe you beat the resident windows phone guru aka messiaah to making this post, lol)
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interesting that i posted this in the windows phone 7 thread already...
either way.. cant we just merge both and rename it to windows phone :)?
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We could, but I think this is big enough news to warrant its own.
Like having a separate thread for Battlefield 3. Instead of just lumping all Battlefield news across various versions into one big forum.
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wow, just wow
+1 to you sir
(can't believe you beat the resident windows phone guru aka messiaah to making this post, lol)
Thnx lol for real :happy0203: but Wyatt look at who started the Windows Phone 7 thread 2 years ago hmmm ... :lol:
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hahah, good man. You've been on top of the game all along.
Forgive my ignorance
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Boy i was en-route from cayman to trinidad, brother din get chance lolol. In trini now btw.
And yea preston was alwasy on point.
I juss waiting for wp7.8 oui. To wet my appetite till wp8.
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Even though men posting updates to WinP8 in the WinP7 thread, it belongs here:
[rul]http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2204946/windows-phone-8-isn-t-ready-yet[/url]
So... they might delay Windows phone 8... DAMNIT!!!
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Technically it not delayed because it still within s timeframe they said it wud be released, they was just trying for an early release and that mite not happen. Don't mean it delayed, and early Oct vs late oct/early Nov is not that long a wait lol.
I just want my Lumia 920 and Ms surface pro
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Color!!! ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjrv9-Botx8&feature=player_embedded
(http://igyaan.in/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/nokia-lumia-920-color-range-580x580.jpg)(http://igyaan.in/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/fatboy-rechargeable-pillow-dt-901-with-nokia-lumia-820-580x580.jpg)(http://igyaan.in/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/nokia-lumia-820-red-and-yellow-580x580.jpg)
Lumia 920: (http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia920/)
1.5GHz Dual Core
PureView Camera
PureMotion HD+
Wireless Charging
Windows Phone 8
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/lumia-920-low-light-shootout/
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/09/lead-comp.jpg) (http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/lumia-920-low-light-shootout/)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88OJnIwyw3Y)
GG!
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Im looking at the 920 and it seems interesting (of course not even remotely interesting for me personally), but I can see a small portion of people being appealed by this.
Looking at the US scene though, i'm a bit miffed why Nokia would go the route of carrier exclusivity. They need as much exposure as they can get, wherever they can get it and exclusivity is NOT the way to do it.
I guess they just arent that interested in turning their financial situation around...
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Yea the exclusive situation is unfortunate, but i can understand why they had to do it.
That being said, the 920 have the most advanced optics and display technology on the market, built in wireless charging, and running wp8, i cant wait. Trying to decide on color now. It has to match my surface pro. I thinking Nokia Cyan!
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http://www.wpcentral.com/how-t-mobile-lumia-810-differs-lumia-820
Cap. guess the worry and concern the tech media had is unwarranted. Typical paparazzi ftl, slightest bit of negative news and they all over it like vultures. Seems nokia is indeed providing their devices across the board, just variations for each carrier. In d end, everybody happy.
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If you're into the party / club hopping scene, this phone might be a win.
I had cause to use my phone in such a scenario recently and the results were less than stellar.
Horrible low light conditions. A bro with an iphone was there and struggled as well to get decent shots.
Of course no one walked with a traditional digital camera (which would have done a proper job) since everyone's got a camera phone nowadays, lol.
In fact, I might get one for the misses, so we'll always be covered. Best of both worlds iwmc.
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Nice, das wah we talking bout. But it may come at ah price doh, rumore mill says yuh looking at about 830$ US unlocked from UK.
Ouch!
I still getting one, but that would effectively be d most i ever pay for a phone. Iphone men used to that doh lol, paying USD$850+ at launch.
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wtf?????
you have to be joking right?
I not crossing a penny over US$450.00
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Im looking at the 920 and it seems interesting (of course not even remotely interesting for me personally), but I can see a small portion of people being appealed by this.
Looking at the US scene though, i'm a bit miffed why Nokia would go the route of carrier exclusivity. They need as much exposure as they can get, wherever they can get it and exclusivity is NOT the way to do it.
I guess they just arent that interested in turning their financial situation around...
Yep they need to take a page out of Samsung's book and flood the market with Devices = increased availability = more $$$...
HTC did that as well but they went and scare off the devs with the ultra locked bootloaders ( their main base) and everyone then migrated to Samsung ...
Just now Samsung will be the new Blackberry of Trinidad give it a few months...:lol:
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Yea preston, nokia IS flooding d market with cheaper devices. But u want d best ull have to pay for it.
Wyatt will have to look at the 820, or maybe even the 710. But then he wont get the same epic features as the 920.
Wyatt, all flagship smartphones does cost over 700$ the iphone 5 and gs3 are around those prices as well.
If you want something flagship and cheaper, youll have to look at the 8x which i think runin for about 550, and d Samsung Ativ S which is about 650. And yea them way over your budget too. lol.
But unlike d android market, the cheaper devices arent totally shit and will give u a solid expereince reguardless (no pureview sexyness doh).
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My Samsung Galaxy Nexus cost under US$450 and is epic.
Nokia need to come with something viable in that price range man. wtmc
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Galaxy S3 is between $500 and $550us these days. Digicel n they selling them even cheaper too when u factor in shipping costs.
Galaxy Note 2 is $700 brand new unlocked. $850 for that nokia thingy will attract only the most hardcore of winmo fans.
A lower end device like the Lumia 820 has no business launching at anything more than $400us unlocked if they are interested in stemming the intense tide that the GS3 has created, instead it is slated to launch at a staggering $643 (http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/27/nokia-lumia-920-820-get-official-european-prices-launching-in/), significantly more than the superior gs3 stands at right now, not to mention just $50us cheaper than the VASTLY superior Note II...
I join Wyatt in his sentiments earlier. You HAVE to be kidding me.
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D lumi 800 rel cheap on bmobile, once d phones reach to local shores unlocked d prices go come down. But that note 2 price rel cheap for what u get intrue. And i agree that the note 2 tech is vastly superior to the 820. But D 920 better than both the GS3 and The Note 2. 920 take d tech to another level in the optics and display department. And d integrated wireless chargin just icening on the cake.
820 definately needs to come down to compete in that space.
But my eye on d 920, best phone hardware for d year, ill pay 800US for it, i actually buying 2. Carriers is where d sweet spot is doh, i sure it going to be d standard 150/200$ on AT&T, and comparable on bmobile as well. We go see.
Still waiting to see what windows phone 8 is all about too. Hope MS keeping it under lockdown for a good reason. Oct 29th all shall be revealed.
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Was also hoping for a better price from Nokia... Sadly the ativ and 8s even are not that impressive at the lower price points either compared to many Android handsets out there. As for cheap Droid sets being a poor experience, with a good custom rom that's easily corrected which is more than can be said about the alternatives atm. I'll still hold my breath for a good deal by xmas on a wp8 handset.
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That, and a green-face horse you will never see.
Nokia just posted a 1.2 billion dollar loss for their last financial year...and I heard that on the news (Al Jazeera) this morning self.
I'll give you one guess why that happened.
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^^ huh?
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Lol it wasn't 1.2 million this quarter. That was the one before. This quarter gone they posted "only" a 750 million loss, so its a step in the right direction for the company, even though smartphone sales didn't contribute much.
So after all the winmo 8 hype I expect to be seeing break even or profit making next quarter.
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^^ Yup.
It will take time, but they'll get there.
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Lol it wasn't 1.2 million this quarter. That was the one before. This quarter gone they posted "only" a 750 million loss, so its a step in the right direction for the company, even though smartphone sales didn't contribute much.
So after all the winmo 8 hype I expect to be seeing break even or profit making next quarter.
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Dunno wherevyou heard that. I'm talking about news I heard this morning.
Read this:
m.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/news/nokia-posts-1-2-billion-q1-loss-sales-133742974--finance.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=US&.lang=en-US
...and I thought it was for the year. Turns out that it's a Q1 loss. Ouch!!!
Revenues are down, because sales are plunging.
Things not looking so rosy at the moment. I wonder why that is? :/
Like everybody except Nokia could see what's happening. They need to get some sense, fire Elop and start making some droids yes.
...but they harden... So like Palm, they will have a great device that no one wants to actually buy...and we all know how that ended.
Burn to learn. Simple.
Still, I really wish them all the best, because I wouldn't like to see em get totally beat out from the smartphone arena.
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I think we shud wait until after 920 and wp8 before we cast judgment.
They sales fall because they Symbian sales dropping faster than expected and they WP sales ain't grow fast enough, and the last Gen mot being upgradable to wp8 did not help matters, but with a partner like me backing them, and d judgment hardware that is the 920, Nokia will not fall, give them another year to turn things around. I did not buy a lumia, because it wasn't good enough for d time, understandable why folks didnt buy it (I didn't) but I sure as hell getting a 920.
Its they real hero device, so lets wait and see.
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Speaking of WP8, this integration is going to come in very handy for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP30RUL3Paw&feature=player_embedded
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@ arc .....http://tinyurl.com/8bz3wev
That yahoo article talking about q1. Latest figures for q3 2012 show less hemorrhaging.
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Yeah, I knew it was Q1, but damn...that's a staggering amount of money to lose in 3 months. My intention though, was to point out that Nokia may not want to drop prices now, and incur further losses.
Still, that is encouraging news.
I want them to recover to the point where they decide to start making some droids. :happy0203:
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Nokia dropping prices wont really depend on nokia much, but Carriers, carriers is the ones who go absorb the cost to subsidize the devices. So that wont be an issue.
And Once Elop is CEO, nokia eh making no droids. So dont be optimistic about that atal.
And if they recover to the point to make the investment, then it would mean WP doing well in the market, and at that point their would be no need. It go be nice though, walking around with a 920 knowing droid customers lusting over it but cant have it :awesome:
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Riiiiiiight, mr wp8.
Lay off tha purple kool-aid a bit eh.
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Nokia cyan coolade bro, get yuh colors right. I know u android boys used to just black, so it can be a bit confusing, i understand.
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HTC 8s... here I come? :s
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(http://www.windowsphonemetro.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/WP8Event.png)
http://www.windowsphonemetro.com/2012/10/28/reminder-windows-phone-8-event-to-be-streamed-live-tomorrow/
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Yeah waiting on it as I type... damn PST...
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15 Minutes to Go:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/presskits/windowsphone/liveevent.aspx
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Windows Phone 8 Features at a Glance....JUH!
NT Kernel - Shared Core with Windows 8, 64 Core CPUs Supported, etc etc
Native Code game access to developers
Unity Engine Support
Heavier FB Integration - Able to send picture updates from fb directly to lockscreen wallpaper (Put on phone and see via lockscreen wallpaper new photos monitored friends upload - kinda epic)
Live Lockscreen - 3rd Party Access to Lockscreen wallpaper and notifications (FB, WhatsApp, Etc Etc) Choosing HTC puts an image of time of day, weather, etc etc.
Kid's Corner - Needed by all parents with kids who constantly ask to play games on their phone.
Wallet - Store Paypal, Credit Card, MS Gift Card, etc etc, with 3rd Party support to purchase apps / features via Wallet.
Rooms - BBM on steroids - Custom groups that display / share the following content of group members : Social (fb, twitter etc), Onenote, Calendar, Messages, etc
Improved Bing Search and Features
Share apps from app list
Built In Nokia Maps
Tap-To-Share NFC
Xbox Smartglass
Skype!!! - Deep Integration (Always on skype utilizing no resources/battery life on phone and incoming Calls / Msg received as native Phonecall / Msg)
Heavier skydrive integration - Auto Upload of Full Resolution Photos and Videos to skydrive and automatically synced to Windows 8 and Xbox (27GB free for long time hotmail users, 7GB free for new accounts, subscription based storage also available)
Improved Photo Hub
Camera Lenses (Augmented Reality with 3rd party access)
Pinch to zoom in Camera App for Digital Zooming.
Greatly Improved Multitasking
Evolved Live Tile Interface
Data Sense - Data compression allowing up to 50% less data usage and monitoring.
Xbox Music - Cross platform music services (WP8, Windows 8, Xbox) with Syncing
IE 10
I may have missed some.
Reviews:
http://www.wpcentral.com/overview-and-review-windows-phone-8
http://pocketnow.com/2012/10/29/windows-phone-8-review
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Sadly though the more budget oriented handsets don't support our 3/4G frequencies save the Nokia 820/822 based on my research so far. The 8s which had the best price is 800/2100 so I'm waiting to see the non contract pricing on that.
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D 8s going for 300US$ if you import from the UK.
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D 8s going for 300US$ if you import from the UK.
No sense down here, not compatible with our frequency band. Only flag shop models or at least Nokia 820/822. I see Digicel selling Nokia 610 but again why win7.5... Total lack of local presence imho
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No sense down here, not compatible with our frequency band.
hey do you know which frequency band bmobile will be using for there 4g whenever they do decide to release it. it should be different than digicels 1900 band
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Them fellers in canada get d Lumia 920 offcontract for 550 oui, that is rel buss eye price.
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It will More than likely occupy the same 1900 mhz or at best 2100. Its not the actual freq that's important vs the band size. Why I think this you ask? Because many of the cheap as beer handsets they are undoubtedly flooding the market with in preparation for their '4G' are the same as Digicel and there's always that matter of TATT whom I'll withhold my comments on. But a simple comparison, the galaxy ace which both Digicel and bmobile sell work on the 1900 & 2100 but the ace 2 (bmobile) is 2100. The S2 and so on support both as well.
Catch is I want a phone that could work on both carriers and since only the 820 and higher support both frequencies I'm just sol.
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Serious question....where is the Windows Phone OS on this chart?
(http://www.carigamers.com/cms/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18549.0;attach=11308;image)
Don't tell me its lumped into "other"?
Asked this in the Windows 8 thread and didn't get a response....hoping it can be addressed here.
Android and IOS seem to be totally dominating the scene with Google's offering trending upwards.
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Answer:
November 1, 2012 | By Surur
Windows Phone had 2% market share in Q3 2012, still the fastest growing mobile OS
(http://wmpoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/image2.png)
The IDC have released their shipment numbers for Q3 2012, and found that only 3.6 million Windows Phones were shipped in Q3 2012. This number is less than the 3.7 million which Nokia said they shipped, making it somewhat suspect. If we accept it however it still gives Windows Phone only 2% market share in the last quarter. While this still leaves Windows Phone in 5th position, with Android and iOS it is the only growing mobile OS, with Blackberry, Symbian, Linux and ”Other” (presumably including Bada, Meego etc) all falling in market share. It is also the fastest growing OS, gaining 140% compared to the last year.
With the launch of a new generation of Windows Phone handsets this quarter, we expect a good rebound in these numbers, but obviously still from a very low base.
source (http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-had-2-market-share-in-q3-2012-still-the-fastest-growing-mobile-os/)
The one i posted is limited to Mobile Phones only, lumping tablets into the pie, you mite as well lump Laptops into it as well, since MS has virtually 0 tablet marketshare seeing that they only now making a serious push in the tablet space. Include laptops in those figures and the numbers will be dramatically imba in MS favor.
Edit:
It's amazing how much android devices shipped doh. But apple still in the game strong, because even doh they ship less units, they make more money off of those fewer numbers. Hence being currently the richest company in the world.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ3Q3AJiAag&feature=player_embedded
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hmm, unfortunately, I feel Windows maybe stealing that market share from Blackberry and Symbian.
Their growth rate maybe bad news for RIM especially. Since MS has such a stranglehold on the enterprise.....if WP becomes a viable alternative to BlackBerry, is GG No Re for the Canadian hopefuls.
OS 10 won't be enough to stem that dark tide.
Judging from the number of Androids sold, Microsoft isn't going to make a dent into their armor for years to come.
Unless Google fumbles the ball or something. Right now, its properly described as a runaway train.
Apple maybe making more $$ per unit...but that will become irrelevant when Android devices outnumber them 1-100:1
Unfortunately....some work still needs to be done...as the platform isn't rock solid. My android tablet and phone crashes in various exotic ways. It is exceedingly rare for our IOS devices to crash. Apple is still more stable at the moment.
By Android 5, that should be resolved though....it goes with the territory of supporting such diverse hardware platforms. Whereas apple has their hardware locked in place.
cest la vie.
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Good points, but also keep in mind, the return rate for android devices are extremely high, and those return rates are *NOT* removed from the marketshare calculations. You said MS go only make a dent if google fumbles, but i'd argue that they already fumble, since d start, by d same claims u made (frequent crashes and a generally bad experience on android platforms for the average user.) Just like ios, windows phone is rock solid, and dont crash. D latest "what smartphone are you going to buy" survey on The Verge reports a toss up between Nokia 920 and GS3, third place was the Iphone 5. Nokia 920 garnering alot of attraction. And with the right push, i'd see users gravitate alot faster than normal, given the fact that android already experience alot of problems not found on IOS. The IOS fanbase would be a harder cookie to crack, but i think MS has a reasonable chance to eat some of google marketshare as well.
And we all know rim is done for, and both rim and symbian marketshare being absorbed by Microsoft. And WP8 re-introduce enterprise features that were missing from wp7, making it legally possible for Corporate to adopt the platform when they once couldn't in most cases.
In the end we'll see how it goes, but with various CEO's of companies asking me if i'm getting a Surface and Nokia, it seems MS hadda be doing something right, because these is men who usually clueless about technology. We'll see how it goes. ALl i know is, Nokia 920 for me, GG, No Re with that device.
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Nokia Lumia 920 Reviews Begin to emerge:
Engadget : Nokia Lumia 920 review: Windows Phone 8 and (a little bit of) camera magic
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nokia-lumia-920-review/
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hmm, unfortunately, I feel Windows maybe stealing that market share from Blackberry and Symbian.
Their growth rate maybe bad news for RIM especially. Since MS has such a stranglehold on the enterprise.....if WP becomes a viable alternative to BlackBerry, is GG No Re for the Canadian hopefuls.
OS 10 won't be enough to stem that dark tide.
Judging from the number of Androids sold, Microsoft isn't going to make a dent into their armor for years to come.
the Same was said about Android in 2008 up to the end of 2010 it was utter crap.... it only came into its own since V 2.2 somewhere in the 2010
and a BIG part of that is it openness and ease of (legit) development which MS failed at in Windows Mobile but they have been making up for that with WP7
and the respective SDK's but I understand what your saying but MS isn't really going after android that much their focus is apple... for some reason....$$$$$$$$ :lol:
but IMO they dropped the ball somewhere along the line because WinMo had all the features android has now years before but they lagged on distribution and pricing
and now you see the result where they were king of the hill they now have to play catch up.....with a moving train .... so we will see
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Indeed, android is basically a better version of windows mobile 6.5, but MS had no choice but to restart. They get cetch with the pants down and they bamsee still burning. But i give them credit for the steps they take in trying to get back to where they once were.
But we see this all the time, rise and fall of platforms. When apple rise to the throne, no-one thought they would loose it, in no short order android deal with them. I think the 920, 8x, and WP8 has the potential to deliver a busy cobo swet, followed by ah cow swet come next year when the 940 and WP9 hit d scene.
Having an NT core gives WP8 alot of advantages and potential that is not realized yet. As great as the changes and features the first party stuff from MS is. With a NT kernel , further changes, applications and advancement is alot easier. The OS can basically scale as well as Windows 8 on the desktop. Is just to tap into that potential now. And hopefully the platform wouldnt need a major reboot again for a while, just evolution and maximizing the NT core. And having Nokia in yuh back pocket is the best thing happen to windows phone oui. Since nokia join d fight, MS start seeing d light at the end of d tunnel, they juss running full bore towards it now :)
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AT&T Nokia Lumia 820 and 920 coming November 9th for $49 and $99 with FREE wireless charging Plate.........JAH CHEEZE lucky AT&T customers, $99 bucks for all that!? sure as hell beat the 300$ for the ip5. Waiting to see how unlocked prices from my supplier looking now. Wow 99 bucks, amazing.
http://www.wpcentral.com/att-lumia-820-and-920-coming-november-9th
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$99 seems pretty standard to me, of course you ARE tied into a 2 year contract with the carrier and other potential miscellaneous costs... then there is the monthly recurring which could be high depending... I don't buy that hype anymore. Not saying its not a decent deal, but it's nothing special imho.
What will really be of interest is the no-contract prices... that's what I am REALLY waiting on
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99$ is standard and 300$ for d iphone 5? :S
300$ is standard for flagship devices on contract. 99$ on contract with a free wireless charger (retailing for abou 60 US) is gunta price. When compared to the competition contract pricing.
Nobody in d states does get phones unlocked if they can get d phone they want on contract, because they have to pay for they plan regardless. For AT&T customers, that is ah rel steel!
For me and you, yea, unlocked pricing for d win, so that's what i waiting to see now, but at&t come extremely aggressive with that pricing they have they.
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Smart ppl doh deal up with iphone robbery prices (Unless company paying for it)... I eyeing dat 820 HARDMATIC!
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D Galaxy Note 2 is also 300$ on contract....
Mostly all flagship smartphones are 300+ on contract, that's just the way it is, which is why d 920 price wowing me so. If that translates to a lower unlocked price, then gg.
And year d 820 looks good, but 920 is where it's at. i have to get one of them thing before or on Christmas oui.
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What will really be of interest is the no-contract prices... that's what I am REALLY waiting on
indeed... but off-contract prices usually scale with contract prices... thing is doh... at that price i'm seeing it will have a shortage of stock.. which means off-contract prices might sky-rocket for awhile...
good thing i wasnt planning until upgrading till next year lol
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(http://wmpoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Nokia-Lumia-900-Off-contract.jpg)
Yea wintry, leh meh hear yuh now.
http://wmpoweruser.com/att-lists-nokia-lumia-920-for-449-99-on-no-commitment-pricing/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WmPowerUser+%28WMPowerUser%29
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That's fair, waiting on 820 ftw (920 a bit out of my budget)
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/windows-phone-8-hits-att-stores-preorders-open-on-verizon/ (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/windows-phone-8-hits-att-stores-preorders-open-on-verizon/) there we go... Might as well buy the 920...
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Yea, 50 bucks more is a no brainer, but i waiting to see what the unlocked UK looking like. Keep in mind those no-commitment pricing is locked to the carrier eh
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WPCentral Nokia Lumia 920 Review
http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-920-review
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I've just purchased 2 Lumia 920s with a pair of wireless charging pads.
Hoping to see the "Shipped" status tomorrow, but wont be expecting those pads for a couple weeks.
CANT WAIT! :D
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Teething issues I hope...
Windows Phone 8 early adopters bemoan rebooting issues
Nokia Lumia 920 and HTC Windows Phone 8X are the culprits
By Carly Page
Mon Nov 19 2012, 10:35
EARLY ADOPTERS of Microsoft's Windows Phone 8 mobile operating system are reporting that their handsets are randomly rebooting.
According to users who have flocked to Microsoft's and Nokia's support forums, the HTC Windows Phone 8X and Nokia Lumia 920 handsets are both suffering random reboots, while others have bemoaned the poor battery life on these two Windows Phone 8 smartphones.
One user on the Nokia forums said, "I purchased my phone in-store yesterday morning. Around 11am yesterday after only two hours of use, the phone froze up and I had to perform a hard reset."
A disappointed HTC 8X user added, "It was fine for a few days then a couple of reboots within a couple of hours. All was ok again until yesterday when I got 2 reboots within about 5 hours of each other. I wasn't doing anything on the phone at the time. I just felt it vibrate and I had the HTC logo on the screen."
We've been using both of the Nokia Lumia 920 and HTC Windows Phone 8X handsets and haven't noticed any issues with either the handsets' batteries or random rebooting. This could suggest that the issue is limited to handsets purchased in the US, but we're yet to get confirmation on this.
These aren't the only issues that Windows Phone 8 users have been quick to vent about, as Microsoft's mobile operating system still suffers from a distinct lack of apps. Although Skype eventually launched an app almost two weeks after Windows Phone 8 launched, users are still hoping that apps from Spotify and Instagram will crop up soon.
Just days after Microsoft launched Windows Phone 8 it was sued by a company called Surfcast over the operating system's Live Tile user interface.
HTC is yet to respond to our request for comment, but Nokia has confirmed that it has received complaints from a small number of users, and said it is investigating the issue.
A spokesperson told The INQUIRER, "We have received reports of a small number of people experiencing unusual battery performance on their Nokia Lumia 920.
"This is not a concern being widely reported via our Nokia Care channels and feedback from many people is that the Nokia Lumia 920 enjoys great battery life for a high end smartphone. We are investigating, but we currently suspect that some applications may be using power when left running in the background.
"While we learn more, we advise people when finished with an application to navigate away using the back button as this will close it rather than leaving it active in the background." µ
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2225617/windows-phone-8-early-adopters-bemoan-rebooting (http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2225617/windows-phone-8-early-adopters-bemoan-rebooting)
I also read a decent review of WP8 on Ars... sadly discouraged me slightly from wanting to make a jump... a 'good' OS but not 'great' which is what it needs to be to lure users away from their safe and sound iOS and Android
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I've seen the same reports and it seems to be an issue with NFC causing both the rebooting and battery drain issue. Users on wpcentral have found by disabling this it solves the issues, and nokia has reported they ah investigating it thoroughly.
And the apps situation will only be for a short time, just as Windows 8, d platform literally just launch, give it at least ah month or 2 to see how things look after.
And i'm hoping to get my 920s soon, so ill see if i experience d same issues. Disabling NFC shouldn't be a big issue for now doh, since hardly anything uses it at the moment. Once they release a firmware update shortly i cool.
Like all new platforms doh, their will be d glowing reivews, d midrange, and d negative, it depends on how u look at it.
Ppl who use hotmail, skydrive, etc, and embeded in the MS echosystem, says its an epic OS. Ppl who want better google intergration and specific apps will obviously cuss it. But d core OS is solid, and built on the NT kernel it have much potentiall. Time will tell if that potential is taken advantage of. but being entrenched in the MS echosystem myself (Office, Skydrive, Onenote, Exchange, Hotmail, Facebook, Windows 8), the core OS offers me almost everything i need. And the missing apps right now i dont use, so i'm cool. D app situation will resolve itself soon. So i could live with the superior versions of d things i listed for now. Including Better intigration, faster use, etc etc. WP strengths nah. Just made better with WP8.
Edit:
http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-looking-into-wp8-reboot-issue-pollare-you-affected/
Seems the occurrences are pretty low too.
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Mesiah was it unlocked lumias u bought and where
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Expansys, some unlocked at&t models.
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Just received an email with an update.:
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We have received your payment , we are just waiting for stock to arrive.
I have emailed my purchaser for an eta and as soon as I have any info, I will let you know.
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So guess i'm trapped in the same out-of-stock situation, but at least i have an order in.
Edit:
I emailed expansys:
"Thank you very much.
I’ve ordered 2 Black units, are you guys receiving stock in White?
And will it be possible to switch my order to the White models?
Thanks,
"
Reply from expansys:
"We do not have a date on the white ones, they are currently listed as a preorder.
Thanks,
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So guess i sticking with black, looks like i got my order in just intime too because now the black is listed as pre-order.
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Pressure. the life of the early adopter
Seems stocks issue are the new rage.
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Seems so lol. Thats a good thing for wp doh.
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From: Matthew Hypolite
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 1:00 PM
To: Brandi King (Customer Service. Expansys USA)
Subject: RE: Order:
Any word on the Lumia 920s ?
Any ETA?
Thanks,
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From: Brandi King (Customer Service. Expansys USA):
We are expecting stock on this Friday , the 30th.
Thanks,
Brandi King
ORDER PROCESSOR, USA
OFFICE 309 834 0336
FAX 863-943-4815
EXPANSYS-USA.COM
This transmission is confidential for further information click here.
________________________________________
BOOM!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG7wbEtff6Y
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jah rass... have awhile to wait yet before i get mine... device looking sweet
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True Story:
Ordered food, went to pick it up, the conversation with the cashier lady went like this:
Cashier: What is that!?
Me: Nokia Lumia 920.
Cashier: Is it better than the IPhone and Galaxy S3?
Cashier: *Proceeds to take my phone OUT of my hand, without asking….she literally just took it”
Me: Yes it’s better than both.
Cashier: How so, is it faster?
Me: It’s about the same speed as the iPhone, but both this and the iPhone are faster than the gs3.
Cashier: What makes it better?
Me: They took a real camera, and put it in this phone, so the stuff you find in an actual camera, is in this phone. It also runs windows, so it integrates with all your office stuff the best, and it has built in Facebook and msn and Skype.
Cashier: So it’s like a pc in your pocket then?
Me: Yes
….
At that point I had my food in hand ready to go, and had to literally take back my phone, she din want to put it down. This small little encounter goes a long way to show how Nokia’s epic design stands out and attracts the eye. Its bold and unique. Typical I get the “Is that a galaxy” comment. With my HTC I occasionally got the, “is that a windows phone?” but mostly the galaxy comments.
Nokia is another ball-game entirely. “What is that?!” seems to be the common phrase when ppl glance this sexy piece of tech.
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Will there be any 5 inch+ wp 8 phones coming out in 2013? I like large screen phones.
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Lumia 920 is 4.5, not bad...
But yes, there are rumores of a HTC Butterfly esque monsta wp coming out in 2013.
But i wouldnt expect that till late 2013 doh, for wp9.
I eh hear any plans of an interim release.
There was a rumored 4.7" HTC that mite come out before.
But 5" would be wp9 im guessing.
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First Good Microsoft Ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19vR1GldRI
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I got a Lumia 928 and I love it. Windows Phone FTW! Coming from iPhone, owning an iPad and having played with several Android phones and devices, I must agree with Messiah, this is a totally unique experience.
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BOOM! 928 FTW
I not upgrading yet though, 925 and 928 not enough yet to jump from ah 920. I waiting on EOS. Which expected in July.
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ah boy welcome redlum. Bought a 920 this weekend self, truly a different world, loving the experience.
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I doh have paper lying around like you lot in eyeing the 620 or 520 depending
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"Stephen Elop, CEO of Nokia, said that there’s much more to come from Nokia this year. Talking to Mobilegeeks while in Berlin, Stephen Elop reiterated his thoughts concerning the switch to Windows Phone, made on February 11, 2011: it was the right choice.
The company recently unveiled the Nokia Lumia 928 for Verizon and the Nokia Lumia 925 for T-Mobile, as well as the international market. A so-called Nokia “EOS” (Elvis) Windows Phone with an alleged 41-megapixel camera is also rumored. Imaging is not the only category where Nokia excels, though it is one of major importance with regards to sensors and optics. Mapping solutions offered to all Windows Phones (and phones on other platforms) through Nokia Here are also something Nokia is proud of.
What can we expect from Nokia in the near future? An aggressive product policy as well as several new Lumia phones on the market, according to Stephen Elop. Now, just bring on that rumored Nokia EOS/Elvis! "
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Iiiiii wwwaaannnttttts mmmmmyyyyy Eeeeooooossssss
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_76iyqRd8i0c/SqoBDVAiFmI/AAAAAAAABVk/5m5XdR90rdM/s400/smigel.jpg)
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I doh have paper lying around like you lot in eyeing the 620 or 520 depending
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Yea those are nice options for the price, right now a 920 going for like 350$ unlocked, I sure after a 2 months again d 520 go be dirt cheap.
In other news:
Halo: Spartan Assault coming to Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 in July!
(http://cdn.wpcentral.com/sites/wpcentral.com/files/field/image/2013/06/HaloSAteaser.jpg?itok=u0JsZRRf)
http://youtu.be/uqp7NDS5bSI
Ah yes Microsoft, is about bleddy time.
http://www.wpcentral.com/halo-spartan-assault-announced
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4paihQCyog
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Nokia EOS 41-megapixel PureView hardware photos leak?
(http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/eos-p3.jpg)
(http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/eos-p4.jpg)
(http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/eos-p5.jpg)
(http://cdn.pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/eos-p1.jpg)
Drools......
"If we’re to believe the rumors, the time has nearly come for a 41-megapixel PureView Nokia Lumia Windows Phone handset. The so-called EOS has been teasing us for months, and recently we’ve heard some detailed hardware rumors and learned that Nokia may be gearing-up to launch the phone in about a month. Now, as we get into what sure feels like the home stretch, some new images have arrived that just might give us our first look at this smartphone in the flesh.
Sure enough, what we can see here does seem to match with the general descriptions we’ve heard of the phone – that is, a very Lumia-920-looking design for the body, albeit every so slightly thinner, along with a pronounced camera bulge. Going with a circular cut-out for the camera components might not really scream “Nokia design language,” but it works well enough here – we can also see evidence for the rumored xenon flash.
The presence of two small holes on the handset’s back may suggest that there’s no integral support for wireless charging, and the feature will only be available with an optional rear cover.
Now, we can’t say if this is truly how the EOS will arrive – for all we know, this could still be a prototype – but we’ll admit that whatever we’re seeing here does look pretty compelling, and could well be the real deal.
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(http://cdn.pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/eos-camera.jpg)
(http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/eos-front-2.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SDvXs-nmN6E/Ua-u-rf5hkI/AAAAAAAAWrM/4uMVAvd9SGY/s618/nokia+eos+leaked+photos+gsmarena+(5).jpg)
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http://youtu.be/fBaOuHMugb8
Mechanical shuuttterrr..........ooooooooouuuuuuuu :love10:
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Nokia Teases Us On Upcoming 41MP Lumia Windows Phone Device
(http://wmpoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Nokia-EOS-Teaser.jpg)
http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-teases-us-on-upcoming-41mp-lumia-windows-phone-device/
:awesome:
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(http://www.mobiletechworld.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/9179586182_4ed7e1a29c_o.jpg)
Nokia Lumia EOS/1020
This shot is a 3.7MP (2352×1568) downsampled from 38MP picture of Joe’s face shot at ISO-100 w/F.2.2 focal length.
Yea Nokia, GG no RE. 2 days to go.
- See more at: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2013/07/09/first-nokia-lumia-1020-photos-show-promising-quality/#sthash.I17KVfTF.dpuf
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0tcK4DZ03M
GG no Re. Apple and Samsung, gone pee and go in alyuh bed. Big Daddy is here. Nokia Wins, Flawless Victory, Fatality! King Of Smartphone Photography.
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very very impressive
(http://www.carigamers.com/images/meme/nod-of-approval.gif)
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(http://img.pandawhale.com/54410-300-approve-nod-gif-xDRX.gif)
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I've made a dedicated thread for the Lumia 1020, I think this phone deserves it.
http://www.carigamers.com/cms/forums/index.php/topic,28316.new.html#new
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Now this is advancement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn7s-eaYilA
Was thinking about a product like this today and voila, someone hacked it together already on youtube.
Can't wait for dedicated wireless car chargers.
One less plug to worry about in your vehicle.
Just dock your phone in the cradle and boom....charging.
Car Deck hooked up via bluetooth.
Wireless to the world.
Can't wait for this to come to Android. I know the S4 and Nexus can do it.
If you can't wait for a product on the android camp, here is another hacked together solution similar to the Nokia process above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2262808
Also, apparently the Nokia charger also works well with the Nexus 4.
Boom
http://www.androidcentral.com/qi-wireless-charger-showdown
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Come now Wyatt , did I not tell you Nokia has though of everything?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31JS6m8pbPL._SY300_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5115Q4DIlbL.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61ozCNws3CL._SL1024_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-CR-200-Wireless-Car-Charger/dp/B00BRPSOE6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374879671&sr=8-1&keywords=nokia+cr
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http://youtu.be/gSOT92xcSO4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlXs-ja1rrU
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I personally have 3 of these:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81sbcGE3JBL._SL1500_.jpg)
And one of this for nightstand: (I use NFC to activate a dimmed night clock on phone right before I bep out)
(http://www.techhog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Nokia-Lumia-925-wireless-charging-stand-jpg.jpg)
The car kit will be had soon.
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wireless charging is a game changer oui. loving it so far.
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Oh very very nice.
I searched amazon (and the entire internet) several times for an official wireless charger before making my post and couldn't find one.
Even the guys on XDA were offering hacked solutions. No links to an off the shelf product.
Your google fu is strong Messiah.
Impressive. Most impressive.
(http://gifs.gifbin.com/022012/1329933589_pai_mei_beard_flick.gif)
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Ah see berzerk wireless charger and he make meh want one. EBay didnt disappoint, ordered one on the cheap for the Nexus to try it out. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/141041328532?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649) Havent gotten it yet. Hope it works ok.
In other news, Microsoft's YouTube app for Windows Phone reverts to a web link. (http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/07/microsoft-reverts-youtube-app-for-windows-phone-to-a-web-link/)
...now everybody knows that i'm not a fan of winmo but Google seems to just be on shit with this one. Leh the men get some youtube loving nah dred. Kicking ah man when he down, not cool, Google.
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Yea, google getting on rel stupid with this one, MS had a polished sexy youtube app.
Google make them pull it from the store and claim MS breaking terms of services, and request MS remove ability to download, and enable adds. MS did both and re-released the app.
Google then claim MS needs to build the app in HTML5 and pull it again. and claim it's part of their terms of service.
MS say coding a native app in HTML5 is not just hard, but performance would suffer.
Google themselves don't use html5, and build the apps for android and iPhone using native code, but prohibits MS from using Native code to do their own youtube app, and google also refuses to build an app for MS.
So basically, google getting on rel nasty.
Wonder how they go like it if MS decide chrome cant run on any windows machine....
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On the wireless note, yea, wireless charging is very convenient, my phone does usually always be close to full charge because of it. And having it in the car just so good.
Only thing I missing now, is when I go in d car, it automatically start to play my podcasts, but I see WP GDR3 coming out with a "driving mode" feature where u could tell it to do certain things based on what Bluetooth it's connected to. So when that release month end, gg.
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wireless to the world. boom bang
but yeah, don't get tie up with Google....<foilhat>they aren't the knights in shining armour.</foilhat>
I have seen their folly before, they have a master plan and will not stop until Skynet is online
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I still waiting on a software update on my 620... le sigh...
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U have an att?
because all att users got their update yesterday.
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Microsoft just step up their game with the "Developer" update program.
I put developer in quotea because its free for anyone to register, and you'' be able to get updates early.
I'm now running GDR3!
Extremely easy to do, see link for details:
http://winsupersite.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-8-update-3-update-your-handset-today
http://youtu.be/0E1c0dl3FMM
Changes:
Driving Mode. A new feature called Driving Mode works with a connected Bluetooth device to limit notifications on the lock screen—including texts, calls, and quick status alerts, Microsoft says—until you're safely parked. You can configure Driving Mode to send automatic replies to people who call or text while you're driving.
Mobile Accessibility. One of the big complaints about Windows Phone is that its accessibility features are decidedly lacking. With Update 3, Windows Phone 8 picks up a suite of apps called Mobile Accessibility that seek to improve this situation. Apps include a screen reader for blind and visually impaired as well as tools for the hearing-impaired that help with notifications like alarms, calendar events, and low-battery warnings.
Tethering improvements. The Internet Sharing feature in Windows Phone 8 is being updated to include a special pairing mode for use with particular PCs that uses Bluetooth to make the connection: No more manual entry of passwords.
Better ringtones. With Update 3, you can use custom ringtones for more events, including instant messages, emails, voicemails, and reminders. You can also configure custom ringtones for contacts for text messages. (Previously, you could only do so for phone calls.)
Screen rotate lock. Yep, you can now lock the screen rotation, just like a real smart device.
Improved storage management. While GDR2 added the ability to automatically manage "other" storage in the Phone Storage settings app, Update 3 now provides a new category view that shows exactly what apps and other items are using up that space.
Manually close an app. Now when you access the App Switcher multitasking screen (by pressing and holding on the Back button), you will be able to manually close an app using a large and obvious close ("X") button.
Wi-Fi access during Setup. In the current version of Windows Phone 8, you cannot connect to a Wi-Fi network during Setup, so you must have a cellular data connection to add a Microsoft account. With Update 3, Wi-Fi configuration occurs before this step, solving a major complaint, especially for those of us buying no-contract phones like the Lumia 520 where a cellular connection is not guaranteed.
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I'm running GDR3 on my Samsung GT-I8750 aka ATIV S. Microsoft Developer program ftw!
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Well, Elop did what RIM couldn't:
He stop ah sinking ship:
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Nokia today reported its Q3 2013 financial statement. The report was largely positive for Nokia group with $162 million profit from $7.79 billion revenue. $162 million profit may not sound huge, but its a huge improvement from last year same quarter when Nokia group reported a loss of €564 million. We just posted about the Lumia sales volumes here, Nokia sold about 8.8 million Lumias up from 7.4 million last quarter. Devices & Services Q3 net sales increased 6% quarter-on-quarter to EUR 2.9 billion, but it made a loss of about $160 million.
Overall, Nokia is in strong cash position than last few years. With the proposed sales of Devices and Services unit to Microsoft, Nokia group will be able to achieve higher profitability from NSN, HERE and others in the upcoming quarters.
Read more at Nokia.
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BOOM!
Microsoft is smart bastards out, what ah smart purchase lol.
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Impressive
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The bottom line
Moto G vs Lumia 625
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If you're reading Android Central, then the chances are you'd pick the Moto G hands down. And you wouldn't be wrong for doing so. Until handling the Moto G I was convinced that Nokia owned the budget smartphone category with a series of excellent devices that proved cheap didn't mean a below par experience. But Motorola may have just taken things to a whole new level. The display alone would be enough to differentiate the two if they were say side-by-side in a store. You won't be disappointed if you buy a Lumia 625, it's a fine phone that I like a lot, but the Moto G has more to offer.
The Moto G is hands down the best Android phone you can buy in this price range; you won't do better for this amount of money. And it might just be the best phone period that you can buy around £150 for some time.
http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g-vs-nokia-lumia-625
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Messiah, now order ah lumia 820 of my very own on ebay dey cheap cheap. $130us used. Gonna use it as my work beater to replace ah ole bb 8900 piece of crap.
Should be a nice fun little plaything.
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BOOM!
Nice nice, along with them 3 620s I order, also ordered a 820 as gift for somebody else. Nice little phone for the price.
You doping the whole QI replacement shell thing? Or that's just YUh beat-up phone?
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P.S. I Got my shipping notification from clove this morning, should have 1520 in hand Friday........ :banana:
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Nice. Phablet ftw. Nah I already have a generic NFC charger I could use with it but that go just be to throw in meh bag and go.
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Right, I think next year ill buy a 520 as a backup phone. By that time it go be even more dirt cheap. And just to have incase phone breaks, hada sell for upgrade in ah hurry etc.
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Yuh get it?
Sent from my Xperia Z Ultra using Tapatalk 4
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Yeah boy, huge is not d word, it massive, I was waiting till i use it for ah while before posting, first impression is, it rel big lololol, it takes some getting used to. But day by day the size is growing on me. Till the point now I saying..it huge! But in a good way. My typing went from having to look at the keyboard on the 920, to not having to look at it on d 1520. So as a result typing is much faster and more accurate and easier.
the screen is simply gorgeous , and I thought the 920 was epic in direct sunlight, but this phone make the 920 look normal in the sun, I don't know what Nokia did, but its the most amazing screen I've ever seen in sunlight, tested it and compared it on d beach with d 920 and note 3 yesterday. The note 3 was horrible, u could barely make out anything, 920 was good, but the colors does get skewed to pull off proper readability. The 1520 was showing normal normal, and prrerettttyyyy.....
The 920 was the best camera on a phone I've ever used, the 1520 made that camera look mediocre....some images taken with 1520 Friday......
http://sdrv.ms/1cqSwOZ
Oh, and the device is fasssttt, I did nit think WP could have gotten any faster than it already was, but it can, and it has. Snappy 800 ftw. SD card slot already getting put to good use, only 20 of 64 free on that card lol. And the battery life ain't shabby either, but need to use it for s regular work day to properly gage that one.
all in all, I went from being intimidated by the size, and fumbling to get a handle on the device, to appreciating its size and getting used to how to hold and use it, to saying....Damn its huge, I'm officially in love with the 1520. Other phones feel ridiculously small when I go back to them, small in a bad way. I've been bitten with the phablet bug, there's no going back.
PS, this was all written on the 1520 and my surface sitting right next to me. It hardly get use at home since getting this device. When work start back in the new year I'll see how the 1520 does as a proper daily driver.
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Nice lill review there man. That sunlight legibility sounding nice. Phablet form factor ftw!!!
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I bought a 920 for my mom for Christmas. Haven't used it much yet, but I like what I've seen so far. Everything runs really smoothly, the camera's really good, and the build quality of the phone itself is superb. It'll still be a cold day in hell before I switch completely from Android, but I can myself having one as a secondary phone.
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I now starting to dabble with the RAW image support of the 1520. I now realize I've been watching the downsampled 5mp shots all d time.
And the speaker on this device is really loud. So they done a good job on that as well.
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a secondary phone??? wtf wrong with these people boy.....
anyway, I just downgraded in size from my note 2 to a nexus 5. Must say....it is great to be back on a "normal" form factor.
Was expecting to miss the larger real estate of the Note 2 but that has not been the case.
I don't know how you and spaz could handle those humongous phones yes. Crazy. lol
Just wildin'.....the Note 2 was a fantastic device (especially for the price I paid) so am sure these phones will do you gentlemen yeoman's service.
Still laughing at the thought of Spaz running around the savannah with that laptop sized phone strapped to his arm though. lol
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Not everybody could pack ah "six incher" and be comfortable wielding it :laughing7:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_YydAkhS-o
from left to right:
Z Ultras (spaz), iPhone 5s, Lumia 1520 (MessiaaH), Note 3
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Looking at a few videos that 1520 screen looks like a clear winner brightness and colour wise (i've noticed Xperia's auto brightness method to be very aggressive, perhaps in a bid to prolong battery life. Manual brightness adjustments make it super bright though.
All in all, they are both excellent phablet devices. I like the prices I seeing on the Lumia too though, just $100 more than the Xperia @ $600us. 20mp cam with flash, great screen and 32gb built in....Not bad at all!!! I would so be over this were I a WP fan.
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Yea, the 1520 eveen going for less than the 1020 on amazon.nice price for the tech you getting. And Lumia outdoor visibility have ah lil more to do than just a bright panel. Ah think Nokia owns the camera and display crowns oui.
And I post d vid above to show Wyatt how big the devices are ad well.
the flash is great, has not spoiled my pictures like flashes usually do, but wish it was xenon though. And 41mp. But I'm quite satisfied with the level of photos coming out.
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Lumia 820 acquired...setting up now. Will post impressions later.
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this should be good (goes for popcorn)
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Yah have extra Wyatt? I does take mines with butter :laughing7:
@Capt. If u sign ur live ID up for the dev program (which free) you'll be able to bypass carrier restrictions and get the latest updates directly from MS, I recommend you do that to get up to the latest software. Let me find a walkthrough link for u.
Here:
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-8-gdr3-aka-update-3-download-procedure/
Epic move by MS, I hate carriers.
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I rely on google services for cloud document and note taking. The WP options for those are understandably, significantly crappier (Google Keep and Drive). I will explore the native services and see how they compare. Other than that (so far) its ok. Youtube HD is so far almost as good as the real big boy youtube on android. Its only been a few hours so I havent gotten chance to check out all the apps.
Ok I explored Skydrive. While its OK, the Google Drive/Keep combo is so much better. Still, it is workable. I've found third party drive and keep apps for the WP so I can try both MS and Google offerings over time and see which I prefer based on prolonged use.
I still stand by my Android > all opinion. The level of customization, functionality and flexibility just cannot be beat. I will never give up meh Android entirely. BUT i'll say this. MS has a decent platform here which has a solid chance to be the number 2 player if they continue the way they are. After using Android exclusively for the last three years, WP is a nice new experience that I am liking so far.
It could be that the novelty is still there and it will wear off in a few days but so far, not too bad.
PS: I'm developer unlocked and some new updates are downloading as we speak. Lets see what GDR3 has to offer. Also, I am using the WP as my primary device for at least a week or so in various usage scenarios (work and personal life) to see how it compares to Android. I'm pretty sure when I give my opinion after this time, Messiah won't be able to fault me for it. Next step is for him to get himself a Nexus and do the same!
WP impressions from an Android fanboy and Android impressions from a WP fanboy. Won't THAT be epic.
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I'll think about the nexus, and try metrotube (best YouTube app imo) metro talk and metro mail is google 3rd party for WP that I hear rel good, metro mail suppose to support all d google mail features last I heard.
and I do agree that the SkyDrive options on wo could be much better, it works great for apps that natively use it like OneNote etc, but files not so much, needs to be more windows 8 like in its implementation.
let me know how Here Drive (Nokia drive) compares to the google solution.
and if u looking for apps to do specific things, yuh cud ask, I mite know the best off hand.
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Nice. Will do.
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Yeah, my impressions of WP in the flesh have been impressive but the issue for me has never been in the basic usability....but rather in the philosophy behind the devices.
Closed vs Open for Android
I would love to get my hands on a 1020 for the camera. That epic piece of hardware will override any philosophical musings.
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The 1520 camera rel boss too btw, that 20mp getting on rel bad.
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GSM Arena's Smartphone Champions League
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(http://cdn.gsmarena.com/pics/14/01//scl-grand-final/gsmarena_001.jpg) (http://blog.gsmarena.com/smartphone-champions-league-grand-final/)
http://blog.gsmarena.com/smartphone-champions-league-grand-final/
What an impressive showing by Nokia. And by the looks of the votes so far, the epic Phablet 1520 going to take d crown. GG WP.
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Windows Phone 8.1!
Windows Phone 8.1 will be the first step in unifying the Windows RT and Windows Phone operating system, as well as plugging other remaining holes in the platform. Below is a list of features that have been leaked coming to 8.1:
April release
Cortana Siri competitor
Universal apps with HTML/JavaScript. The leaker claims that developers will be able to create so-called Universal apps with HTML and JavaScript that can run on both Windows 8.x and Windows Phone 8.1.
Notification Center Standard notification center with enhancements and apps having ability to dynamically update notifications and mange them independently with various forms of notification updates (silent, alert, etch). (Solves Capt. Awesome feature request)
Battery Sense. A new Battery Sense app will help you see which apps are using up the battery.
Xbox Music and Xbox Video. They are replacing the Music & Video hub.
Podcast app. With the Music & Video hub being removed and Microsoft creating separate Xbox Music and Xbox Video apps, many are wondering about podcast support. According to the leak, Windows Phone 8.1 will include a new standalone Podcast app, which is unexpected.
Camera app. The Camera app has been redesigned. Surprised it's not just the Pro Camera app from Nokia.
Bing apps. A full slate of Bing apps are now installed by default, as they are in Windows 8.1: Bing Finance, Bing Food & Drink, Bing Health & Fitness, Bing News, Bing Sports Bing Travel, and Bing Weather.
VPN support. We knew this was coming, but Windows Phone 8.1 will provide the same type of built-in VPN support as does Windows 8.1. Which is to say, not the VPN support everyone needs: Cisco.
Wi-Fi Sense app as a sort of accompaniment to Data Sense, Battery Sense, and ... Storage Sense.
OneDrive. SkyDrive has been rebranded as OneDrive throughout Windows Phone 8.1, as it has in Windows 8.1 Update 1. And the OneDrive app now supports local file system browser, as it does in Windows.
SD card support. There is much better support for micro-SD cards in Windows Phone 8.1. In addition to digital media content, you can now install apps to the card, using the Storage Sense setting, above.
App lifecycle maintenance. Mobile apps are managed by the OS as they are in Windows RT. So tapping the Back button no longer kills an app. (I'm not 100 percent sure it ever did that, but whatever.) Multitasking will be "more efficient." You can swipe down to close apps from the multitasking screen, as you can on other mobile OSes. (The close boxes are still there too.)
App auto-updating, just like Windows 8.1.
New tile sizes. As was the case with Update 3, Windows Phone 8.1 will again support new tile sizes, no doubt related to ever-bigger screen resolutions.
File Picker has been redesigned. There's a File Saver now as well.
YouTube app. Hope springs eternal, I guess.
Xbox Games hub has been redesigned
Quick Settings menu (Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc.) by swiping down from the top of the screen.
Action Center menu by swiping up from the bottom of the screen. Some are reporting that this is the Notification Center, but I'm hearing it's a different feature.
PlayTo and screen mirroring support. Nokia currently offers a PlayTo app for Lumia owners, and various screen mirroring apps for that matter.
More:
Navigation bar customization.
Default messaging app selection.
New USB settings.
WebGL support in IE.
New full screen media player for online content.
New in-line media player in IE.
Ability to dismiss/hide on-screen navigation buttons.
Multiple Volume Controls
Improved Calendar
Lock Screen Improvements
NFC Payments
Virtual Navigation Bar
Virtual Navigation Bar settings
Multiple screens with virtual navigation bar
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0K5eoSMsQY
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Roman has been sharing some more of the Windows Phone 8.1 SDK, and the latest is a look at how sharing works in apps.
It will work similar to Contracts in Windows 8, where apps will advertise abilities.
Here is what the Windows 8 SDK says:
Contracts A contract is like an agreement between one or more apps. Contracts define the requirements that apps must meet to participate in these unique Windows interactions.
For example, Windows lets users share content from one app to another. The app that shares content out supports a source contract by meeting specific requirements, while the app that receives the shared content supports a target contract by meeting a different set of requirements. Neither app needs to know anything about the other. Every app that participates in the sharing contract can be confident that the sharing workflow is completely supported, end-to-end, by Windows.
The system is more powerful and customizable, but one can of course see how it prevents the sharing to multiple social networks at once. On the other hands I do not think it will be long before a app comes along that will advertise the ability to share to multiple networks.
As another little unrelated teaser, it looks like Windows Phone 8.1 may have a file manager after all, with Roman saying:
http://wmpoweruser.com/how-sharing-in-windows-phone-8-1-will-work/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8nmCGCeFmo
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Functionality looks good, but something about the UI is nagging me........ something just looks wrong with it......
Hopping that is prototype. It needs some work from aesthetics perspective.
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I think they put a new transition effect in there.
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WP 8.1: You will be able to name Cortana whatever you want
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Turns our if you find the name Cortana a bit awkward you will be able to name your Digital Assistant Jane or Joe pretty easily.
According to Xone, who frequents WPWorld.pl, and who posted some more information about the service, not only will the assistant have a different name in different regions, but end users will also be able to rename it whatever they want.
Users will also be able to activate the assistant hands-free, much like Google’s “Hello Google” phrase on the Moto X, but users will be able to configure this key phrase to whatever they prefer.
In an unrelated titbit, Xone revealed that Action Center will support 5 toggles for services like WIFI and screen rotation on 5 inch + screens, and 4 on smaller screens.
I'll be naming mines Jarvis :)
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steups @ jarvis, Cortana FTW
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Cortana is good for marketing, but if I have to be activating my voice features by saying, "hello Cortana" ...aint nobody got time for that, ill be quickly renaming that to something shorter and easier to say.
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Getting mine now.
http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-81-now-available#comments
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Updating as we speak!
Windows Phone 8.1 Review
(http://www.wpcentral.com/sites/wpcentral.com/files/styles/large_wm_blw/public/postimages/2014/04/windows_phone_81_20.jpg?itok=iKdxEcMV)
http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-81-review
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Ah beat a man like you to the punch hoss? Ah doubt. This 820 singing!!!
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Boy I find out bout d update being live whiles driving to work. I update when I reach only to realize is 2 updates. So had to initiate d 2nd one late. But I'm on it now though!
How you liking it so far?
And where the hell is Cortana! I don't have it, do you?
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Whatsapp incoming messages no longer wake up the screen!!!!!
Yeah I have cortana. Im still digging up in the features but so far it looking like it finally on par with Android in terms of features and customizations.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HJodK56EsU
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So why d heck I don't have Cortana. Grumble.
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Ok, I fix it, my phone being from the UK put the language as English UK even though my region was US. I just added English USA and deleted the UK language , restarted, and boom!, Cortana!
MWAHAHAHAHA
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That was retarded. Not so much into Cortana though but the rest of features are great. What I like is that even with this old hardware I feel no need to upgrade. All 8.1 features I care about present and accounted for.
Sent from my Lumia 820 using Tapatalk
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The flow keyboard is a welcome improvement and that install directly to SD card already paying off. No longer limited by internal storage for apps.
This is something that Android had back in the day but they removed for some stupid reason.
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Cortana is only officially supported in US right now, that's why all these shenanigans to get it.
And Cortana for me mite be relegated for quick reminds and features. I like the ability to just say turn off WiFi etc.
And I like d fact that I can talk to Cortana via text so don't have to actually talk to her.
Plenty new features I still going through.
I love d new notification system. Not the notification center persay, but the control over notifications.
Windows 8 when I receive an email I always get a visual notification and brief description. Always wanted that, now I can. You can completely silence whatsapp now and just have it displayed in notification center...... exactly what u wanted.
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I know Yuh excited eh, but these features have been on android for...years lol.
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Muss be excited. lololo.
I been on WP for a reason, even with the lacking features/apps. Some of those reasons you're now aware of because you've been using them.
So for me, I always preferred WP anyway.
So that combined with the fact that it getting all the features it's been missing. Just makes WP that much better to me.
Soon android men go can't bump they gum anymore. Because WP will have feature/app parity.
WP9 is when things go get rel intense for this competition. I expect MS to have solved all their qualms by then.
Haven't checked out 8.1 proper yet, but I doubt they got everything. But I know they get a lot.
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Universal WP8.1/W8 apps already in the Windows Phone Store
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Microsoft has started delivering rapidly on the promise of Universal apps on Windows Phone 8.1, with a number of cross-platform apps already showing up.
The apps, which are labelled “Made for Windows Phones and Windows PCs”, allows users to pay once and install on both platforms.
This can already be seen in one app, Halo: Spartan Assault, which if you purchased it for the phone can be installed on your PC and vice versa.
Other apps with early support include Shazam, Hexic, Microsoft Mahjong, Microsoft Solitaire Collection, Wordament.
The feature will increase the value of apps for Windows Phone and Windows 8 users, and make them more likely to pay for them, which should ultimately help developers make more money.
Just tired it and it works. Just bought the 5$ halo Spartan assault for free on WP cause I had previously bought it on surface some time ago, gg MS, one ring to rule them all. Bring on universal apps!
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Yall might find these helpful....Tip 3 looks pretty useful, with Google Now I'm not sure if you can do that, it just learns from your previous searches, can't manually add topics to follow.
http://www.wpcentral.com/eight-tips-make-most-out-windows-phone-81
Eight tips for Windows Phone 8.1 that you may not know about
By Daniel Rubino, Monday, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:24 am
With Windows Phone 8.1 being released today to those participating the Preview for Developers program, there is a lot to chew on. I wrote about the OS in a 5,500 word review and overview, but there’s so much in there, I figured you folks needed some quick tips on features you may not have known about!
Head past the break to see our eight must-know tips for Windows Phone 8.1!
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Pin Battery Saver + Storage Sense to the Start screen – In 8.1, the Battery Saver and Storage Sense programs are now listed in the App listing. That also means you can pin them to your Start screen! What’s more, Microsoft made them Live tiles and the battery icon actually reflects your current battery status, where Storage Sense will show you in numbers your current space usage, including on your SD card.
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Swipe down on the Action Center for detailed status – Do you like the battery icon but want to see it in an actual percentage? Swipe down on the Action Center (from the top) and you can get detailed data on your battery, the date, carrier connection status and more
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Tell Cortana what news you want to follow – After doing a search through Cortana, you can scroll down to see ‘Update me on this news topic’. Click that and Cortana will start tracking that topic for you, showing any new news in your Daily Glance. The data will be saved in Cortana’s Notebook, under Interests > News. Tap on the item to toggle shows news on that topic and to enable notifications when there are new stories. You can also pin the topic to your Start screen.
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Enable weather in Calendar – The new native calendar app can you show the weather forecast right in the calendar! Simply head to Calendar > Settings > Preferences to enable and start seeing the day’s high temperature and weather icon. Great for planning ahead!
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Swipe down on the Lock screen to access the Action/Notification center – Even when PIN you can still pull down the Action Center in 8.1, without having to unlock the Lock screen. You can toggle the Quick action buttons and even dismiss alerts, but if you want to read anything, you’ll need to enter in that PIN
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See which Apps auto updated – On Windows Phone 8.1, you can have apps auto update for you. Head to Store > Downloads > History to see what changed!
Seven
Scan barcodes/QR codes again – If using Cortana, you lost the ability to scan barcodes through Bing Vision. However, you can still access this app/service via your Camera > Lenses > Bing Vision. It’s not as convenient, but it works.
Eight
Auto-download images in email – Many email clients block the downloading of images in email due to security and privacy concerns (images are often just links back to the website,which could be malicious). But in 8.1, you can head into Mail > Settings > Always download full message and internet images and get your images back, automatically
I know there are way more tips and tricks out there for Windows Phone 8.1, but these eight should get you started on enjoying your new experience. Do you have a favorite trick that surprised you? Share it comments, and maybe it will make our next list!
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Good looking out woody. Nice tips.
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Throwback to 2010, shows how far Windows phones have come.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCJ3TL_i9cI