Carigamers
Off Topic => Ole Talk => Politics & Soap Box Rants => Topic started by: WarOne on May 30, 2006, 05:18:00 PM
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I am currently a patron of TSTT who are completely pissing me off, I saw that Columbus was coming out with their own high speed internet service. Personally I am hoping for another war, like the Digicel vs BMobile war currently in progress, so the prices for dsl and stuff will go down, what are ur opionions on this topic.
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What sort of problems are you getting with your DSL?
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I dont get any trouble with my dsl service from TSTT, actually instead of 256k I actually get 267k. Either way it is not enough when u think of it in the whole, 256k just aint enough and for the price I am payin every month fking ridiculous, that is what is pissing me off with them.
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Wat package u have and price do you pay?
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I didnt take any package, so I pay full price.
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which is...
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Most likely he paying $400.00 a month (before VAT)... after my initial contract expire, i start to see $460 in my phone bill under dsl... (half-glad I renew with a 2-year contract + smart choice bronze ... cut the price down to $230 a month before VAT)
But I am curious. Anyone have any service/prices for Columbus yet? Or a website for them I can look at??
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chek here.....mite not be true but it giving me some dreams...http://gatt.carigamers.com/index.php/topic,8223.50.html
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Flow Beat 1,024 / 256 Kbps J$650 10Hrs J$50.00 3 emails
Flow Jazz 1,024 / 256 Kbps J$1,200 30Hrs J$20.00 3 emails
Flow Rock 2,048 / 512 Kbps J$1,800 Unlimited N/A 5 emails
Flow Rave 3,072 / 768 Kbps J$2,450 Unlimited N/A 8 emails
10 jamiacan = 1 tt.. yea 245 tt for 3mbit dsl! My contact here says it goes up to 5mbit for residential !
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Dread move from by me with that kinda price nah, you cyar be serious. If dat is d case guess who taking 3mbit in d morning.
Fellas on d whole, i must be contact tstt about 10 times asking dem for ah bandwidth upgrade and dem tellin me yuh cyar do dat an all kinda thing. I fed up ah dis monopoly, if columbus really come through with dat kinda price they have a new customer for life
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Someone asked me a valid question regarding columbus, namely, where do they get the internet feed from? the transatlantic fibre? or a Vsat connection? maybe a wireless link to the south american continent then fibre from there? 1 has to ask, if they offering up to 3Mbps and at those VERY good rates, that the majority of users will opt for the 3Mbps. So with a LARGE install base at such speeds... that'd take a pretty sizeable pipe LEAVING T&T if yuh follow meh... If they using Vsat link/s then regardless of how fast the network (fibre if I am not mistaken) is IN T&T it won't be that great latency wise leaving the country... so p2p will suffer. If they using the transatlantic fibre.. umm TSTT owns that right? (someone verify this for me) so that would me they paying TSTT which doh make much sense at those bws. Lastly is perhaps a wireless to the continent or MAYBE a fibre to the continent that would be fine, but that is PURE speculation. So can anyone confirm or inform us on how they leaving the country with all dat bandwidth?
Lastly, just because those are the jamaican prices doh mean we'll have a direct conversion Trini, take into account the things i'v ementioned above and you'll realise we don't know what kinda cost they have to drive that kinda bandwidth here. Yuh hadda factoring any charges they have to the government (if there are any), power costs (our electricity rates will be different from JA) alot of things. Plus they will want to use their competitions pricing to their advantage. If we use the JA rates as a guide, then 180TT gives you unlimited 512kbps access. If TSTT charging 460 (monthly and NOT bound to a contract) then thy could easily charge say 500TT (without contract, with discounts for 1,2,3 yrs as TSTT) and it'd STILL be a better deal than TSTT. So don't expect those rates. Remember bottom line is they are a BUSINESS, if they can charge the same as TSTT for MORE they WILL, but seeing as they can prolly charge a little MORE than TSTT for MORE, they will MOST likely take this avenue. If TSTT bump up the speeds, they could always then drop their rates or bump their speeds up too. Keep these things in mind.
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i thought that we discussed this earlier in the thread?
That columbus's parent company own the largest trans pipe in the carribean, and is how they provide these services up and down the chain of islands.
With their plan for flow, would mean that they droppin another oc or maybe a few ocs on the island
this would seem a gigantic deal to have new pipes being brought to the island, so maybe it wont be as soon as we think.
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All dat you say dere crixx doh mean squat, my prior post still stands. Unless someone comes forth and says Columbus was given rights by TATT or whomever government etc to bring in that pipe we can only speculate. And i've not heard anything recently about bringing in another pipe... it could be real hush hush or maybe they have another plan, until we know for sure, I am just stating the possibilities.
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well then fellas, leh we go and march so we could finally get the speed that we deserve lol
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" actually instead of 256k I actually get 267k. " I kno dis kinda late but anyone else foncused by this???
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It changes every once in a while...from 256 to 267
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wow.. you getting a WHOLE 0.2 K more than everyone else...
TSTT provides you with around 300k of bandwidth at the exchange , DSL is not 100% efficient in delivering bandwidth , so you loose about 15% due to line noise etc. bringing it down to 256k for most people.. if your line not soo badly foaked up , you can get a little more than 256...
I can't remember the exact terminology , but this is the basic concept..
If you check your modem settings , you'll see most of the time an ATU-C rate of 1024000 bits , or 1 megabit , meaning that your line can handle AT LEAST that amount of bandwidth.... TSTT holding out on us for the longest while with low bandwidth and latency, its total Sh!t .
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its called attenuation
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Hey the Flow website is up! Only has info on their new cable services though. Check it out at http://www.flowtrinidad.com/
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I heard that they are using satellite for now (sucks)
but are working on getting their sub oceanic cable to the island.
When they do, things will be different.
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hmm
i dont think 512 out of reach for normal users
i finally got upgraded after 3 months of pescering though im paying 150 difference..
512 still aint enough .. but if flow comes with a 1 mb that affordable weee
i doh need to go in office and download anymore ^_^
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Hold up...you can pay a difference to get a 512 connection?
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im paying a difference for it yes we signed up for it firstly anyhow and not 256k :S so i dunno
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Someone just told me Flow launching in September in select locations... (read: St. Augustine and environs). DAMNIT... I was trying to figure out the logic behind such a launch location... then someone also mentioned to me, that's where alot of their satellites systems are... so that leads me to question.... does this mean FLOW runs on Vsat and NOT a fibre? thus increased latencies? Vsat doh hurt for HDTV and such, and even VoIP, you can do QoS.... but p2p... hmmm whats the deal really?
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Will p2p not work ?...I cant live without it
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Hey the Flow website is down!.........CRAP!!!!!
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It's not p2p won't work, it prolly just won't work as well unless they appling QoS to it.
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a way to check what kinda backbone they using might be to ping them.. but all my requests to flow jamaica and trinidad timing out... firewall maybe? we just go hadda wait....
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Flow jamaica just DOUBLED their speed for the SAME price... so thats now 6mbit for 245 tt... damn lucky jamaicans... TSTT NEED SOME CUT @SS TOO!
http://www.flowjamaica.com/residential_click.htm#click
Flow Rock 4,096 / 512 Kbps J$1,800 Unlimited N/A 5 emails
20 MB
Flow Rave 6,144 / 768 Kbps J$2,450 Unlimited N/A 8 emails
50 MB
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That's not fair!!! I want faster net too...
tsttmcbetterhurryandupgradeeverybodyfromsh!ddy256kbps
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In a word....WOW
We can only hope they do the same in Trinidad when their bandwidth get's here.
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All I have to say, from working with TSTT on mutliple occasions, THEY SUCK, their work ethic SUCKS, their service SUCKS and their customer relations SUCK. That being said, I hope columbus does NOT suck and shaft us with low bandwidth and high prices.... *sighs* alas we can only wish that customer service in this country would move up about 400% in EVERYTHING, least of all our telecom providers.
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sigh. my ex migrated to jamaica a few years aback..
yesterday, she popped on MSN with the message ' 4Mb . what to do? what to do?' ( she switched to Flow )
dred, i coulda strangle the trick, cuz all she does do is just surf..
arghhhh!! while man here downloadin dvd isos on a 256 pipe..
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hhahahhahaahah
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bad news , apparently Flow runs on Satellite backbone atm... they haven't run the optic fibre to trinidad yet , so even if it comes out soon , you shouldn't jump on until next year or so unless dialup is the only option...
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gd for me.......cause tstt contract not finishin soon
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Flow Beat 1,024 / 256 Kbps J$650 10Hrs J$50.00 3 emails
Flow Jazz 1,024 / 256 Kbps J$1,200 30Hrs J$20.00 3 emails
Flow Rock 2,048 / 512 Kbps J$1,800 Unlimited N/A 5 emails
Flow Rave 3,072 / 768 Kbps J$2,450 Unlimited N/A 8 emails
10 jamiacan = 1 tt.. yea 245 tt for 3mbit dsl! My contact here says it goes up to 5mbit for residential !
lol... that has changed it's Flow rave 6mpps / 1mbps J$3,000 lol...you guys in for good stuff!
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So what you're saying is I get 6Mbps for 3,000.00 Jamaica Dollars=284.307 Trinidad and Tobago Dollars? GG where do I sign up damnit!!!
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..... &^*%*%*& YOU TSTT!! OMFG I HATE YU!!!!
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Crixx everyone does
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Ran across this juicy bit this morning....
It really makes me want to pull a cartman and say, "o.k. that's it....screw you guys, I'm goin' home!"
As discussed, the existing limits of our current backbone infrastructure prevent this from helping us tooooooo much, BUT here's some food for thought:
The new version of DOCSIS (Data-Over-Cable Service Interface Specifications) will allow for physical layer speeds of 160Mbps downstream and 120 Mbps back up—more than a fourfold increase over current rates (in the real world).
whole article can be found here
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060904-7658.html (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060904-7658.html)
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Columbus and TSTT are supposed to be laying Fibre... But the whole TSTT backbone is only 300mbit right now (cheap mcs) , will take a while to bring us up to even 1 mbit speeds.
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Knowing T$TT, dey probably laying eggs.
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lol @ laying eggs
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dread I assure you columbus getting a terrestrial link to T&T is NOT something that gonna happen too soon unfortunately. As it stands the GOV owns majority TSTT and aiding in their own loss isn't happening too soon. LOOK how long we hearing AT&T coming and etc. It took digicel FOREVER to get IN far less to lay fibre to our country to WDFPWNZ TSTT come on, think about it more carefully.