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Title: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on August 19, 2006, 04:16:11 PM
This forum is mainly for the Naruto fans out there. This is the place to discuss the outcome of all the conflicts in Naruto. Enjoy.


There are so many rumors in Naruto about this and that. This is the place to discuss it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here's a link to unconfirmed Naruto Plot endings............

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:9Z5K7Qx5choJ:www.mycosplay.org/forum/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D1085%26st%3D15+akatsuki+wife+yondaime&hl=en

CHECK IT OUT AND DISCUSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on August 19, 2006, 07:57:52 PM
Dred d link sayin Itachi really good and d 4th hokage threatened Itachi with the death of the entire Uchiha clan when ITachi refused to join Akatsuki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wat do u all think? Plz read the link 4 more details!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on August 20, 2006, 01:41:50 AM
 i think its bullsh!t made up by fanboys...  the 4th would never do anything like that , Itachi was probably 5 years old when the 4th was alive .... remember it was 12 years before naruto's first arc , when Itachi was 17... Itachi too busy learning 1 kunai + 1 kunai = 2 kunai for yondaime to bother him.

  Plot endings? I belive Kishi will take the series to the end , making tons of cash as he does , with naruto becoming hokage in like manga chapter 1000 , and maybe even taking it till he dies of old age , Kyuubi-itis , Aids or wateva....
   I doubt sasuke will die , well at least in the following few arcs ,  Even if Orochi try his Sh!t on him , And we'v seen before they can resurrect the dead in the manga....
  Of course we have to find out if Yondaime is naruto daddy, uncle or wateva , series barely has blond haired, blue eyed people , the chance is highly likely.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on August 20, 2006, 07:54:40 AM
I hav question....Dint Obito give Kakashi the eye?
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on August 20, 2006, 09:10:27 AM
**** Spoiler***
















Uchiha Obito gave kakashi his sharingan enabled eye after he was partially crushed by a boulder , Obito had just obtained sharigan..  so it was kakashi who developed the Magekyou later on.












***End of Spoiler****


 
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on August 20, 2006, 09:35:12 AM
Why did that crazy person say kakashi's wife gave him it..........


Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on August 20, 2006, 10:19:02 AM
 cause he's a n00b trying to make his e-p3nis long by claiming he has inside info on naruto , or it may just be speculation and it was too badly translated to say so .
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on August 20, 2006, 10:21:08 AM
ok lol
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Crixx_Creww on August 20, 2006, 01:03:26 PM
O.o

someone said kakashi wife gave him the sharingan eye??? O.o

LOL @ kakashi having a wife in de first place lol lol
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on August 21, 2006, 01:50:36 AM
they said that she left one 4 him, but he never got it, and i dunno wat to believe............howold is itachi now?

Here's another question:
When the Third Hokage had to remove the souls of the First and Second Hokage from the bodies used in the Edo Tensei technique, the Shinigami reached through the Third's body and placed the seal on his stomach. When the Fourth used the same jutsu the seal was placed on Naruto's stomach. Why the difference? Was the Fourth better able to utilize the jutsu? Or is there more to Naruto's existance? Did the Fourth do the jutsu in the same fashion but manage to not lose his life by returning to the form of a baby?
Discuss
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: W1nTry on August 21, 2006, 08:47:30 AM
Did the Fourth do the jutsu in the same fashion but manage to not lose his life by returning to the form of a baby?

Dread a man ask a BIG BIG question dere.... something I never even thought about... WHAT IF Naruto is really the 4th hokage? and indeed the jutsu was different because it was used to seal a demon. Perhaps the demon fox was a bit beyond the Death God's ability to seal (I mean it is a demon after all, it should kinda exist in both realms right?) perhaps he sacrificed his life [life being his existence and rememberance of his existence up until that point kinda like that trade in FMA). WOW a man ask a real interesting question. It would also explain why the whole topic of the 4th is soo taboo and noone has really ever said anything apart from he's already given up his life.

Now check this too, remember the sandaime (3rd) had told (can't rem who exactly right now) something to do with don't wish for the 4th as he has already sacrificed himself for the village. Like I said it seems very Taboo. It would blow my mind if Naruto is indeed the 4th Hokage. It may explain why he was able to master the Rasengan so quickly, why he has chakra resistance capable of keeping hte kyubi chakra from damaging him constantly (that was in the chat with Yamato about real strength yada yada). I mean this is REALLY a good theory.

But anyways back to the more expected answers. Ok mr temagaarulz. First off the noone (save kishi) knows the exact circumstances regarding what happened when Yondaime seal the kyubi. Because the 9tails is no mere soul, it could be the reason it could not be seal in the death gods stomach. Hence unlike the 3rd who seal Oro's hands, the shinigami was able to do this and thus the seal appeared on the sandaime and not someone else. As for the kakashi wife part, doubtful as we have seen Obito was clearly the donator in the manga (which should be the next arc in the anime once they get back on track). It is possible he had a wife, but nothing to indicate or suggest that has been revealed.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on August 21, 2006, 10:16:37 AM
ent in d show he had like ah gyurl
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on August 21, 2006, 10:42:53 AM
  Have a million possible explanations for it all , Yondaime could have wanted to make a jinchuuriki to protect the village after he was gone , as he knew orochimaru and possibly akatsuki were gunning for konoha .. The jutsu surely requires someone to sacrifice his life so we'r pretty sure yondaime isn't naruto...
  Possibly the fox is immortal and cannot be sealed away just like what sandaime did ... we'll have to see.. kishi will answer the questions sooner or later.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on August 21, 2006, 03:38:09 PM
Here's another question to mind boggle u guys........

What does Akatsuki want to do with the Bijuu?
Akatsuki are going through the Naruto world looking for "Jinchuuriki," human vessels containing "Bijuu" (tailed demons). Naruto and Gaara are two such beings. They extract the demons from the Jinchuuriki for some sinister purpose, what is it? There was a big statue that the Shukaku was getting sucked into from out of Gaara. The statue looked really demonic (like anima from FFX being bound by chains which i think is cool) and had nine eyes i think  and a few were open, indicating the number of jinchurris absorbed? sorry i cant remember the picture of the statue...........It also had a scroll in it's mouth, is it filled with ultra forbidden techs that can only be done with more than one persons or a grp? Does it contain the contract 4 the most powerful summon/s????
Discuss

U guys can give ur opinions all u want, but i'm runnin out of questions here, so can u guys think about some questions as well???!!!! Thankz
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on August 21, 2006, 03:46:33 PM
they want to harness the power to rule the world mwahhahahahaha
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on August 21, 2006, 04:08:15 PM
there's another rumor goin around that Akatsuki wants to "protect the world" by ruling it as dictators. Could their motive be pure? i highly doubt it esp with sumone in their grp that has one F***ED UP RELIGION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But plz read my previous post and try to answer those questions, and make up some urselves!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on August 21, 2006, 05:39:26 PM
i believe akatsuki wants the demons to make themselves demon containers and aquire lots of power.... They obviously arent' benevolent by the way they conduct themselves, so they won't want to kill people for demons out of of kindness and a desire to make the world safe...

  The big statue is probably a temporary holder for the demons until they implant them into the akatsuki members...

 As it stands any one akatsuki member has as much power as  some hokage , if they were to aquire demons they would be unstoppable surely....
 
 i don't think the akatsuki has any religion.. its not a 'cult'...
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on August 21, 2006, 08:17:20 PM
yeah but y is there a scroll in the statue's mouth? i think many things and it can either be:
1) That they r feedin the statue demons to give it life (it has eyes that open), so they can use it like an unstoppable summon
2) That they r just tryin to get the scroll which prob has sum powerful shit in it, extremely forbidden, probably a newtype of jutsu
3) That they want the Bijuu inside of them as well to become unstoppable (but if they want this, how r they gonna get it sealed inside them? Only the 4th can do it which supports thefact that the leader of akatsuki is the 4th)
4) All of the above

there are manytheories each with their holes andsupport, i dunno but urs sounds good TrinithereturnofGamez
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on August 21, 2006, 08:20:35 PM
I think they want it mainly for power............maybe the 4th iz the leader...therefore allowing them to seal the demon power within themselves
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Saxito Pau on August 21, 2006, 11:22:43 PM
Who knows? but here's an interesting twist:

SPOILER WARNING!

Recall that in the manga Sasori had the ability to more or less convert somebody he killed into a puppet, and the puppet retained  the victim's jutsu's/abilities. case in point: the sand's 3rd Kage

Imagine the possibilites if Sasori hadn't been killed, or he had 'puppetered' the abilities of more than one victim... who knows what could have transpired?
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: W1nTry on August 22, 2006, 09:16:25 AM
3) That they want the Bijuu inside of them as well to become unstoppable (but if they want this, how r they gonna get it sealed inside them? Only the 4th can do it which supports thefact that the leader of akatsuki is the 4th)
The fact remains that the true intentions for collecting all 9 demons is unknown. It would be fruitless to speculate what the scroll in the statues mouth is or what it does. What gave you the impression that the 4th was the only 1 able to seal demons? Then how does that explain EVERY OTHER Jinchuuriki in the NAruto world? Gaara (last I checked his mother's sacrifice was part of that combintion) and what of the girl (two tail) JUST taken down by akatsuki?. The 4th being the leader whilst an intersting plot twist would imho be stupid.

I prefer the naruto==4th though. That aside, since you've asked ppl to ask questions, how are these on for size:
Who defeated the 1st and 2nd hokage's??? the battle between Sasuke and Naruto at the end of the fire country with the 2 massie statues are of the 1st and his opponent?? who was that powerful nin? who did the 2nd sacrifice his life to defeat?

Are only Sanin's capable of summoning giant creatures? ( I will bet on NO as in te series there was the 'ghost' castle which was actually the belly of a HUGE chameleon).

How did Kakashi gain the Mangekyou Sharingan?

How fast is Gai Sensei for real? I mean Itachi did say to NOT underestimate him (that says alot for itself)?

Why hasn't anyone else used the 4ths jutsu of teleportation and does this mean it was a secret that died with his departure?

Why did Sasori (THE PUPPET GUY, YES EmpireKking, he is also the lizzard puppet) hesitate and allow his granny to kill him?

Why is Sakura so DAMN LAME?

WHat other abilities make Sunade really elegable to be the 5th? the 3rd fought both both the 1st and 2nd + Orochomaru and still won overall. Could she really take on an akatsuki member? apart from her intelligence, strength and medical jutsu, what makes her good enough?

Why hasn't someone realized that Orochomaru and Michael Jackson are the same person?

Why haven't the DAMN FILLERS ENDED YET?

and MOST importantly.....

why did the chicken cross the road?
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on August 22, 2006, 09:28:47 AM
actually in the Naruto 3 movie sakura loooks rel bad.......Gai sensai has to be really fast because wen he unlocked the fourth gate some guy(forgot name) said that he was moving faster than speed of sound...<Lee was keeping up with him with a injured ankle an the weights still on>
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on August 22, 2006, 12:28:35 PM
Way u hav real good questions boi..........The fourth is like the only one that can do it well and be able to seal it so that ppl like naruto can fully harness the Bijuu's power. They said that they were more jinchurris but they did not necessarily hav to be like naruto. Gaara is nuttin like naruto. Naruto can take chakra form the Fox when needed(Naruto-Neji fight) and also slowly transform by releasin the tails one by one(Manga),but Gaara can only slowly let the shukaku out(Gaara-Sasuke fight). He cant borrow Chakra from it like Naruto. In the manga wen he was fightin Deidara(BOy or girl???) that was ALL GAARA. NO Shukaku power at all since he vowed to never let it out again,remember the shukaku was not properly sealed thus y gaara is unstable. Maybe the other bijuus  were also not properly sealed in their human vessels, and the actual human vessels maybe had physical deformities or couldnt control the power scaring the ppl and leaders n thus y they were gladly abandoned by their villages. Not all the Bijuu were captured as well, Deidara and the little boy fought a Bijuu turtle, so maybe not allwere sealed......

Anyone can summon Large creatures, as long as they have the contract and the chakra capacity. Naruto is not a Sannin, THe big Chameleon Castle(as u said) and the water thing that the guy who worked 4 orochi summmoned. I'm guessin since these creatures are like really deadly, the scrolls to contract with them are carefully guarded by ppl in power and other high rankin ninjas like the sannins, hokages etc

I dont believe KAkashi has a real mangekyuo sharingan. Since he doesnt hav the Uchiha blood, he was not able to develop the real Mangekyou. Besides he jus found another way to do it, he didnt do the killin friend thing so he probaquired a lamer version than ITachi's own. He prob found a way to create his own unique version since he is not an UChiha and didnt kill his friend..........

Well duh Gai sensei fast!!!!!!!!! Itachi knows that. Also since Gai sensei explained to everyone (ITachi and Kisame inclusive) how to fight a sharingan user, this combined with the fact that itachi know's he is fast prompted him to warn kisame. I think lee is faster than Gai since Lee was keepin up with Gai when they both opened their gates and lee still had his weights on him in 196!!!!!!!!

Maybe the 4th(who is either really good or really evil, no one knows) wanted to pass on his Justsu but didnt get a chance!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since he supposedly "died"..................Maybe sumone does hav it,but not anyone we've seen yet.

Sasori wanted to die i think, iahv to go and read overthe manga, i cant find them i'll get bk to u on that

Sakura not lame anymore, i think she get real dred compared to the loser she was b4!!!!!!!!!!!!! tha't according with the manga tho......

Firstly cus tsunade was from konoha, secondly she was a LEGENDARY SANNIN who trained under the 3rd hokage. She is the daughter of the 1st hokage. She is the ultimate Healer. She's an activist that revolutonized the Healing ninja ways, She's smart,FRIGGIN  POWERFUL, and has an Imortality technique!!!! She woulda kill ORochimaru if Kabuto wasnt there. Even if he has use of his arms i think she woulda beat him that time and also if naruto and shizune wasnt there. She's a good leader but  LAstly and most importantly, she has really REALLY FRIGGIN BIG BOOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They really are the same person, i agree!!!!!!!!!!

DAM FILLERS SUPPOSED TO FINISH AT 200!!!!!!!!!!!! since they woulda be startin NAruto 2 and it wulda make sense if they started it from episode 200 (naruto 2, 200 get it???) i hate them for draggin it on 4 so long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and lastly.........whydidthe chicken crosst the road? its actually very simple............... The chicken has a very complex mind(lol), it consciously thinks of life,death,survival,procreation and dangers to itself and its progeny. The chicken has dreams and fears and hopes. So maybe the chicken had to cross the road to go bak home or warm it's eggs or eat or get eaten or run away from an evil farmer whowastryin to sexualy torture it(lol),idont know, the only thing we know 4 sure is that the chicken crosses the road....................to get to the other side(lol), 4 watever the reason.......even if it's tryin to escape a madcow. lol!!!!
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: W1nTry on August 22, 2006, 01:24:21 PM
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I dont believe KAkashi has a real mangekyuo sharingan. Since he doesnt hav the Uchiha blood, he was not able to develop the real Mangekyou. Besides he jus found another way to do it, he didnt do the killin friend thing so he probaquired a lamer version than ITachi's own. He prob found a way to create his own unique version since he is not an UChiha and didnt kill his friend..........
I disagree here. I think kakashi has developed the rea deal MS. However as in keeping with another theory I have about the 3 types of MS, kakashi's own is just 1 form and thus looks different. As trini said, at the point he used it against deidara, it was also imho more powerful that ameretsu (itachi's divine illumination). But that remains to be proven. I have another theory which ties DIRECTLY into this and is regarding that legend of killing your best friend to acheive the MS. It is possible that is indeed 1 way. However I suspect it's actually a lie created by Itachi to lure Sasuke into performing the act. Remember kyubi warned Sasuke NOT to kill Naruto and that he would regret it.
Now 1 may think well it's cause Kyubi may be released and wtf pwn anyone around. However we have already established that if Naruto bites the dust so does kyubi, so that can't be the reason. I suspect it is a setup by itachi to get sasuke to perform the act thereby unleashing some incredible but LETHAL power. At that point Itachi would pop by, off an ALREADY dying sasuke and take the power for himself without the side effect of DEATH... or something along those lines.

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Sakura not lame anymore, i think she get real dred compared to the loser she was b4!!!!!!!!!!!!! tha't according with the manga tho......
Nah she still blows (and prolly not in a way naruto would like either. Sure she has super strength and heaing abilities. But like the 5th she hasn't shown any great speed and as they say in the martial arts indus, there are the quick and the dead. She has NO chance of taking on sasuke or anyone of their calibre. She imho so far was good as a puppet and nothing more. I do HOPE to see her WTF pwn but as it stands, she's got A LONG road ahead of her.

And about the chicken, the real answer is:
Because Michael Jackson thought it was a little boy so it was running for its dear life!
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on August 22, 2006, 01:55:26 PM
where in the manga is equal to episode 196
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on August 22, 2006, 03:58:24 PM
bah.. ALL naruto episodes above 140 ish are non manga , ie. filler , they have no point , no story.. thus the increaesed sh!t ....

 around ep 200 the anime will start back with manga 250 something or so.. not sure of the exact numbers, but they  have enough manga to do at least 50 episodes with a little streching .

    Sakura ain't that weak imo , she and the old lady took out an akatsuki member ,the ONLY akatsuki member to die  in the recent arcs , you have to think of her as you would a DOTA hero, she's like your Enchantress,  does tons of damage in the right position and heals allies , but if you catch her alone she's dead, doesn't mean she's weak, just needs different tactics and support ....
    5th is probably the same thing as sakura + summoning slugs.. a support and one time heavy damage person....  Plus she can heal herself efficiently , and probably has some bad@ss genjutsu to confuse enemies as well.
 ' the quick and the dead' doesn't always hold , look at naruto , has he been faster in ANY fight he fought?, sakura/tsunadae healing powers will allow them to do something similar , albiet never as good.

 Gai is probably the fastest guy in the narutoverse thats still alive.. the only person faster was Yondaime, but he didn't really 'move' , he teleported instantly , while it was the fastest he needed to have a seal or marker at the location in order to teleport there  ( thus special kunai, leaving mark on guy's foot) ..

 Yondaime would never betray konoha , and up to now akatsuki's actions have not been supportive of konoha.. so he's not their leader, but is definately strong enough to be...  besides not fitting Yondaime's character , i think it's also corny ... i can name a dozen movies/books with the general jist '' Naruto.... i am your father''... Besides, his father would never give up THE most powerful demon juts like that.
  i'm sure under Yondaime's tutelage, naruto would have grown up to be easily the most powerful from an early age , made up for his speed and defense with teleportation and other jutsu's...  an akatsuki member  or a father won't give up that chance ... let yondaime dead nah.
   Doubt yondaime is naruto... there is some basic resemblance , but as tsunadae said , he ' isn't as handsome' , he isn't as smart .. Just look at some of the jutsu's yondaime made , they are arguably the BEST at what they do.. naruto is decades away from doing that , if ever .
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: W1nTry on August 22, 2006, 04:16:14 PM
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Just look at some of the jutsu's yondaime made , they are arguably the BEST at what they do.. naruto is decades away from doing that , if ever .
Think about what you just said and now consider Naruto has already mastered the rasengan and in a shorter time than Yondaime did I am sure, also his current form of training coupled with his unyileding drive has allowed him to reach nature manipulation faster than even sasuke. Also ( and I am sure I am repeating myself) he learnt the Kage Bushin ON THE RUN, in a SHORT amount of time as an ACADEMY STUDENT. Those things speak for themselves that he ain't no slouch. As for Tsunade's comments, its still within the limits of the theory that its a very taboo topic and as such ppl who may know (like the sanin) would say things like that for Naruto to develop as himself and not just relive his past exactly as the first time around. Besides he's too young and has demon fox chakra messing with his physical development, that could easily account for the differences in appearence.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on August 26, 2006, 08:01:32 PM
these episodes are fillers so the manga does not include them
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on August 26, 2006, 10:57:20 PM
iz nex week episode 200..........iz the real action iz abuut to start??????
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Crixx_Creww on August 27, 2006, 01:48:22 PM
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Just look at some of the jutsu's yondaime made , they are arguably the BEST at what they do.. naruto is decades away from doing that , if ever .
Think about what you just said and now consider Naruto has already mastered the rasengan and in a shorter time than Yondaime did I am sure, also his current form of training coupled with his unyileding drive has allowed him to reach nature manipulation faster than even sasuke. Also ( and I am sure I am repeating myself) he learnt the Kage Bushin ON THE RUN, in a SHORT amount of time as an ACADEMY STUDENT. Those things speak for themselves that he ain't no slouch. As for Tsunade's comments, its still within the limits of the theory that its a very taboo topic and as such ppl who may know (like the sanin) would say things like that for Naruto to develop as himself and not just relive his past exactly as the first time around. Besides he's too young and has demon fox chakra messing with his physical development, that could easily account for the differences in appearence.



Wow wow wow
Naruto has still NOTTTT mastered the rasengan!
Remember, the rasengan mastery includes being able to do the uudama ransengan with just one hand
naruto still needs his damn clones to be able to do a rasengan and this is 3+ years after he first started learning, which means he has taken more time and still not reached as far as the 4th in the creation of the rasengan.

Um nothing in fillers is cannon and should be thoroughly ignored.

I still think kakashi has an ultra bootleg version of MS and not any real one.
From the appearance of the "MS" to the extremely long a$$ time it takes for him to do the jutsu for him to bring it out. Maybe he got his hands on the uchiha scrolls that sasuke had and  devised his BL(boot leg) version.

Umm i believe that their plan really is to collect the bijyuu and place them in that giant statue thingy and use it as an uber summon.

Like maybe the bijyuu used to represent one  monster and was split into 9 and they trying to get it back to one.

Um as for flash step. ive had an interesting theory about it.

since kakashi gained the sharingan while still under yondaime, he may have been able to copy it but his body could never produce enuff speed to  pull it off and maybe he taught it to sasuke ^_^ who's uchiha body could more than handle it.

The body flicker is not merely instant transmission like goku, remember he was able to make faux bodies of him self, like if they were bunshin's from his after images. In dc comics, in the future, impulse is able to do this same thing.

the reason why the 4th needed the homing beacons is not cause he just teleported to the target, it is because while flickering he moved to fast for him to keep track of things so he needed an anchor to lock unto then he would flicker to that location.

It is a speed technique and not just a teleportation technique.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: W1nTry on August 27, 2006, 02:55:08 PM
Interesting part about the ultra speed vs. Teleportation... interesting. However, I would say Naruto can do a 1 handed rasengan beause he already has. Crixxx, if you recall, the fight with Sasuke, in the end naruto lost use of his left hand and thus HAD to have created the UBER Naruubi Rasengan, his inclination to use a clone is probably because it requires either kyubi's aid or too much concentration for it to be 'quickly' executed in the heat of battle.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Crixx_Creww on August 27, 2006, 03:22:31 PM
no no no, with out him going all naruubi, he cant do it
when he fought deidara he still needed a clone to create a rasengan
when he hit itachi's clone thing a ransengan it was still with the use of a clone.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on August 27, 2006, 08:35:45 PM
I agree with Crixx, i would think that after 3 f 'ing yrs dat stupid boi would be able to do it with one hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(I'm not sure if he can do it with one hand tho, i hav to check over the manga cuz i remember wen he was fightin itachi dat he did oodama rasengan which required two naruto's, i dunno hav to check over) Oh by the way in the fillers rite now(which is b4 the current manga but after the sasuke naruto fight) he still used his bunshins2do the rasengan!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is such a loser..............but i hadda give him his props, dat trainin kakashi doin with him real bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe he should use this trainin technique to master the one handed rasengan!!!!!!!!!!LOL!!!!! Anyone with any leads as to wat naruto's nature manipulation technique would be? is it a wind sword? is it a throwable rasengan? is it a rasengan with wind aura around it being able to cut up the target then simultaneously obliterating it? Tell me ur thoughts...........
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on August 27, 2006, 09:16:50 PM
i swear i see naruto throw ah rasengan
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: W1nTry on August 28, 2006, 10:10:59 AM
i swear i see naruto throw ah rasengan
And when you saw that you were talking to litte green men and you were EXTREMELY paranoid :p anyways I doubt it'll be a throwable Rasengan... that just sounds retarded. However it would be so awesome if he could go into a wind/chakra engulf biju form as normally the Kubi chakra damages its opponent on it's own (read sakura) but with the added effect of slicing wind his attack would be that much more devastating.

Back to the point however, you pplz remember there was a Naruto anime beginning where naruto did a Rasengan in the end of the beginnig and it wasn't like a blue chakra ball we know it to be? the animators made it a rasengan of WIND!!! so I suspect it could very well be a rasengan of wind or something like a rasengan except instead of it being concentrated only into a small ball it would be focused at the center but spread out like Neji's defensive spin.  Imagine a sort of whol body rasengan with the center of spin being naruto's hand but with slicing blades of wind spiraling out and obliterating everything around him. It would be both defensive and Offensive (like that sand ninja girl with the large fan.. never remeber her damn name).


One more theory of mine.. or rather a somewhat disturbing realization:
Did you ever seriously look at the Cursed seal on Sasuke's shoulder? Ever watch OMEN the movie? old or new? Well I haven't, but in the preview I noticed that Damien has a 'birth mark' on him that is 3 6's in a circle. Anyone realise that BOTH the sharigan AND the cursed seal are the EXACT SAME THING. They are in the form of a 6 in a circle... oddly enough the 6 shape is indeed in the direction to be a 6 and not a 9.... Now by drawing reference to Kyubi mentioning that the Uchiha blood is more evil than even his... this makes for a spookey connection....
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Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on August 28, 2006, 11:51:57 AM
The rasengan was a wind thing???? i always thought it was the 7 coloured Chakra form the 1st movie.................it looked too colourful to be wind...........but who knows, we'll see, but we definitely know that his new technique will hav sumthing to do with rasengan!!!!!!!!!! that is so obvious, and just so totally naruto. well if not i cant wait to c wat the hell it is!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh by the way it really is kinda spooky about the sharingan and the omen thingy..............
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on August 28, 2006, 12:08:18 PM
[One more theory of mine.. or rather a somewhat disturbing realization:
Did you ever seriously look at the Cursed seal on Sasuke's shoulder? Ever watch OMEN the movie? old or new? Well I haven't, but in the preview I noticed that Damien has a 'birth mark' on him that is 3 6's in a circle. Anyone realise that BOTH the sharigan AND the cursed seal are the EXACT SAME THING. They are in the form of a 6 in a circle... oddly enough the 6 shape is indeed in the direction to be a 6 and not a 9.... Now by drawing reference to Kyubi mentioning that the Uchiha blood is more evil than even his... this makes for a spookey connection....
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thats really wierd....I recognised the resemblance between sharigan an cursedseal jus never saw the OMEN thing.....Ive told my self that i was gonna get ah tatoo like that but i change my mind now
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Crixx_Creww on August 28, 2006, 02:20:16 PM
indeed an interesting connection

yes the seal and the sharingan have that exact property of  the 6's in a circle

and kyuubi did say that cursed blood with chakura even more evil than mine ^_^ but itachi is soo kyuuuteeee ^_^ hes my bishi!
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on August 28, 2006, 04:38:43 PM
are u having ah queer moment???
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: W1nTry on August 29, 2006, 08:27:25 AM
are u having ah queer moment???
LMAO!!!!!! umm fuh real crixx.... umm that was just a bit much... TMI... but that aside anyone have other theories?
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: W1nTry on August 29, 2006, 10:06:25 AM
I have a new theory...
What IF
the 'tailed' demons were once gosu nins or just humans with tremendous power and they sought to gain more power by tapping into the strength of animals or nature (animals have a much deeper connection with nature) and they turned themselves into these 'demons' to gain more power. Now imagine Uchiha Madara fought with the human form of the kyubi prior to the transformation (hence why kyubi speaks somewhat ill of the Uchiha clan). Or perhaps Madara trapped the kyubi in the fox form... it's far fetched but yuh never know...
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Andrew_005 on September 02, 2006, 10:57:41 AM
Did the Fourth do the jutsu in the same fashion but manage to not lose his life by returning to the form of a baby?

Dread a man ask a BIG BIG question dere.... something I never even thought about... WHAT IF Naruto is really the 4th hokage?

Oh! this one had me mega-thinking, i stumbled on this thread a little late but....

If u can remember when Sarutobi (the third) sealed orochimaru's jutsu's the seal appeared on his belly and he died, this is the same jutsu the 4th used. It's a seal for anything(even 9 tail demon foxes) but it just takes your life. Well considering the seal is on Naruto, why would the 4th have to die and the seal go on someone else, how could he have done it? I think he mastered this jutsu and found out how to cheat death, by returning to the form of a baby.

one thing we know for sure, there is no mention of Naruto's mother or father, why? The rasengan was a jutsu the third Hokage couldn't learn according to Ero-Sennin, and a jutsu that the 4th learnt in three years. Then why stupid Naruto learns this in a lot less than 1 year?

As for the jinchuruki i have other BIG surprises for you guys lol!!! The story of bijuu have been around wayyy before kishimoto, i found info on all nine bijuu, after reading it i had a whole new look on naruto . i'm gonna post that in another thread.
Title: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Andrew_005 on September 02, 2006, 11:19:46 AM
Originally posted by Dyroness on Narutofan Forums, the link is at the end of this post... enjoy!!!

Featuring the Nine Bijuus from the Japanese Legend and the tale itself, this is a brand fresh official collection of information.
Wow after reading this I really started thinking, and wondering if any other bijuu are gonna make an appearance? anyways read on ...


Legend of the Tailed Beasts

In the ancient Japan, according to the legend, each elemental god was sealed into an elemental shrine. Out of the 9 Bijuu, 5 of them were elemental gods, those being Shukaku, of the Wind; Kyuubi, of Fire; Isonade, of Water; Raijuu, of Lightning, and Kaku of Earth.
In the Legend of the Tailed Beasts, the 5 elemental gods were sealed with instruments called “The Tools of Power” (法器). Not all of them are known, and their translation may be not accurate, but all resemble a type of varied container (kettle, prison, altar, etc.)
After researching for a while, I’ve discovered that the “Tools of Power” descend from the “Eight Immortals” from the Chinese mythology. They’re deities who transfer their individual energy to each “Tool of Power”, that is able to give life or destroy evil. Together, the eight tools are called "Covert Eight Immortals" (暗八仙); (Though only five appear in the Legend, and it may be a varied version of it). The Immortals are: Immortal Woman He (He Xiangu), Royal Uncle Cao (Cao Guojiu), Iron-crutch Li (Li Tieguai), Lan Caihe, Lü Dongbin, Philosopher Han Xiang (Han Xiang Zi), Elder Zhang Guo and Zhongli Quan.

Personal Notes: For a moment I associated the Immortal Woman to Sakura <insert snicker> and Iron Crutch Li to Lee, and even some of the others to characters from the Rookie 9 + Gai Team; but everything is too vague.

Continuing the Elemental Shrine story:
There were respective shrines dedicated to these elemental Bijuu scattered through Japan’s territory, being the Fire shrine the strongest. Though, the shines keep releasing spiritual energy even while the Bijuu are sealed within sleeping, and this power from the 5 shrines goes to the Five-Tails: Houkou.
After Yamata no Orochi got the legendary sword Kusanagi no Tsurugi from the Kusanagi Clan, it defeated Nekomata and Houkou (Check Yamata no Orochi’s tale).
Yamata no Orochi then proceeded to release a tremendous amount of dark power to awaken the five elemental Bijuu, that were sealed in the 5 shrines, with the purpose of bringing chaos between worlds.
It ended up fighting the one deserving of the title “King of Bijuu”: Kyuubi no Youko. It has an unending amount of chakra, and because of that, Yamata no Orochi was defeated.

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一尾 | 守鶴 - One Tail (Ichibi), Shukaku
As we all know, this is Gaara's demon, a wild, extravagant monster.
Jinchuuriki: Sabaku no Gaara (Extracted)
Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts: Shukaku is a bijuu in the form of Raccon Dog (Tanuki of the Japanese mythology). Before, he was a priest that lived in the Desert of Nara. Because of the dark power released by Yamata no Orochi, and under the heavy assault of wind and sand, he transformed into a racoon dog (His actual form). He has a playful and extravagant personality, resembling the Tanuki nature. Has a pretty active sexual life. Shukaku lives in the souls of people killed by the wind and sand (This actually resembles the case of Gaara’s mother). The violet (blue in the anime) tatoos represent his title of God of Wind.
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods: Battled 5 times; 1 Win, 3 Losses, 1 Flee
Wins: Sokou
Losses: Raijuu, Nekomata, Isonade
Escapes: Yamata no Orochi
Fate: Shukaku is defeated by a Nara Monk called Oraga Nakashimu with a type of magic art. Then, the monk proceeds to use the "Tool of Power: Antler Teakettle" to seal it into the seal in the Wind Shrine.
Japanese Myth Appearance: A species of Tanuki, Yellow body
Ability: Sandstorms, has the control of Wind and Sand manipulation.
Bijuu Strength Ranking: 8th
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking: 9th
Symbolic Element: Wind (God of Wind)
Origin / Discovered in: Nara Desert
Personal Notes: Shukaku is represented as the reincarnation of a Sand Priest in the series (which would be the poor guy transformed by the Sand and Wind.)
More info about Shukaku:
About Tanuki: (From Wikipedia)
Tanuki have been part of Japanese myth since ancient times. The mythical tanuki is reputed to be mischievous and jolly, a master of disguise and shapeshifting, but somewhat gullible and absent-minded.
Tanuki in folklore:
The current humorous image of tanuki is thought to have been developed during the Kamakura era. The wild tanuki has unusually large testicles, a feature often comically exaggerated in artistic depictions of tanuki. Tanuki may be shown with their testicles flung over their backs like a traveller's pack, or using them as drums. Tanuki are also typically depicted as having large bellies. They may be shown drumming on their bellies instead of their testicles, especially in children's art.
During the Kamakura and Muromachi eras, some stories began to include more frightening, man-eating tanuki. The otogizōshi story of "Kachi-kachi Yama" features a tanuki that clubs an old lady to death and serves her to her unknowing husband as "old lady soup". Other stories report tanuki as being harmless and productive members of society. Several shrines have stories of past priests who were tanuki in disguise.
A popular tale known as Bunbuku chagama is about a tanuki who fooled a monk by transforming into a tea-kettle. Another is about a tanuki who tricked a hunter by disguising his arms as tree boughs, until he spread both arms at the same time and fell off the tree. Tanuki are said to cheat merchants with leaves they have magically disguised as paper money. Some stories describe tanuki as using leaves as part of their own shape-shifting magic.
Statues of tanuki can be found outside many Japanese temples and restaurants, especially noodle shops. These statues often wear a big, cone-shaped hat and carry a bottle of sake. Tanuki statues always have a large belly, although contemporary sculptures may or may not show the traditional large testicles. These exaggerated features represent fertility and plenty.


二尾 | 貓又 – Two Tail (Nibi), Nekomata

Nekomata, Female Form:

Nekomata:
Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts: Nekomata is a bijuu in the form of cat, and possesses the power of death. This Bijuu lives in a place called “Forest of Death” (Not a mistranslation.) in Hokkaido, to the north. His appearance is a black cat monster (depicted with huge, black angel wings). He’s the Death God’s pet. Nekomata feeds on dead people’s spirits, and can summon these to fight for him. He uses a third eye at the top of its head to consume the spirits.
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods: Trying to dominate his enemies, Nekomata forms an alliance with Houkou, and attacks Kyuubi. They have a disastrous defeat, and Nekomata is rescued by the Death God, escaping death by a hair’s breadth. Battled 3 times; 2 Wins, 1 Loss.
Wins: Kaku, Isonade
Losses: Kyuubi
Fate: Nekomata ends up killed by Kyuubi later, and in that instant his spirit is summoned by the Death God. The body was kept in a shrine in the Forest of Death, sealed by the Death God himself.
Japanese Myth Appearance: A species of two tails black cat, with slightly more pointed ears and bigger canines.
Ability: Death; may control deceased person's spirits (May be related to Gaara) as well as different dark beasts
Bijuu Strength Ranking: 4th
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking: 8th
Symbolic Element: Darkness (God of Darkness)
Origin / Discovered in: Hokkaido’s “Forest of Devils” (Different of Forest of Death)
Personal Notes: This better have had a female Jinchuuriki.
More info about Nekomata: it is said it can walk erect. The original Bijuu was a old cat, depicted as a fat, old lady’s image also.
People knew of it, and in fear of having their cats turned into the monster, they cut its tails to prevent the transformation when the time came – a bifurcation. By gesturing with its tail (and walking erect), Nekomata can animate and control the dead to do their bidding, or even dance for their amusement. Sometimes it eats its owner, then changes into an human appearance, waiting for a next opportunity. Nekomata eats the person it hates, but if the person is even more wicked, the crueler the cat becomes. When it sees the person, Nekomata won’t differ the bad and good anymore, and injures the person as much as it can. There is also a good Nekomata in the legend, that often turns into a young girl’s appearance to approach the society; with a very docile nature, likes eating fish, has a beautiful body and likes depending upon others. Otherwise, the Nekomata’s appearance becomes of a old woman, that displays bad habits in public and always has an air of dread around her; which if around people for an extended period can cause disease and pestilence.

Nekomata can also do other magic, but their most well-known and common power is that of animating the dead and manipulating them to whatever ends the particular nekomata wishes. A nekomata must be appeased by attention, food, and respect, and while many are fickle and turn their attention at a moment's notice, they do not tend to forget when they are insulted and by whom, holding grudges. To gain revenge, these nekomata usually controlled the tormentors' dead relatives, haunting them until the nekomata was appeased with food, apologies and attention.

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三尾 | 磯憮 –
Three Tails (Sanbi),
Isonade
Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts: Isonade is a shark shaped Bijuu with a sharp horn on the forehead. It lives in the deep waters on the West of Japan, fighting pirates. Every few months, Isonade will swim to the surface of the sea from the deep waters, to breath some fresh air. However, when he does this, storms erupt, oceans rage, and all ships will be swallowed by him as food. Isonade has a subordinate fish called Samehada (?) (Same name as Kisame's Sword. Depicted differently, but with same pronunciation). Samehada attaches itself to Isonade’s stomach, and absorbs its food to create huge amounts of chakra, proceeding to send it back to its body. Samehada’s power can enable Isonade to get 5 times the quantity of chakra it could originally get. Therefore, when Isonade battles, he will have unlimited chakra to receive from Samehada.
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods: Battled 4 times; 2 Wins, 1 Loss, 1 Flee
Wins: Kaku, Shukaku
Losses: Nekomata
Escapes: Yamata no Orochi
Fate: A fisherman and brave warrior from Yokohama, called Takuma Muramasa, sacrifices himself in behalf of two villages in a courageous act, getting near Isonade and sealing his personal servant Samehada in the “Tool of Power: Pot of the Shark-named fish” from seal in the Water Shrine. Isonade then becomes unable to draw the massive chakra, and ends up getting exausted and sucked by the Tool’s seal in the Water Shrine as well.
Japanese Myth Appearance: A big shark/fish(?) with 3 tails and 3 fins. Has a dark blue body color, is attracted by blood (like all sharks); has a personal servant, a small fish named Samehada, as shown above, that is responsible to help Isonade absorb and digest Chakra in 5 times his original capacity.
Ability: Generic water powers, can control the currents of water.
Bijuu Strength Ranking: 6th
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking: 7th
Symbolic Element: Water (God of Water)
Origin / Discovered in: Four Nanju Country Islands - Yawagawa Sea Area (*COUGH*Nanju is Kisame's Akatsuki Rank*COUGH*)
Personal notes: Well, if this bijuu doesn’t scream KISAME to you, then this note is indeed useful. The Samehada connection is frightening (absorbs chakra), but there can be more about it, explaining WHY Kisame’s chakra reserve is SO big (as being the biggest in Akatsuki).

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四尾 | 鼠鮫 -
Four Tails (Yonbi),
Sokou

Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts: Sokou is a bijuu that looks like a reptile. It was a creature that lived near Mount Fuji. Because of the toxic gas and the volcaninc ash, he was transformed into a half-rooster, half-snake monster. The Rooster and Snake are husband and wife in Sokou’s body. Everything around it withers away or dies, because of its poison. According to the Legend, whenever he hibernates in Mount Fuji, the snoring he causes will make the volcano erupt.
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods: Battled 4 times; 3 Losses, 1 Flee
Losses: Shukaku, Kaku, Houkou
Escapes: Raijuu
Fate: Sokou was sealed by a master of demonic arts, called Yamazaki Ishiro, with the “Tool of power: Netted Moon Cage” to the seal in the Mount Fuji’s base. Sokou becomes unable to send out his poisonous gas from the mountain for all eternity.
Japanese Myth Appearance: A four-tailed Rooster / Snake mixture. The lower part of the body is a Snake, while the upper part is a Rooster. Crawls instead of walking (Just like desert scorpions *COUGH*Hiruko!Sasori*COUGH*). Most of the body parts have an orange tone. Lives in the mount Fuji.
Ability: Controls poison, poisonous gas, venoms, and so on.
Bijuu Strength Ranking: 9th
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking: 6th
Symbolic Element: Poison
Origin / Discovered in: Close to Tokyo, Mount Fuji.
Personal notes: Well, it indeed makes you remember of Sasori. Just a little.
More info about Sokou: If you remember, Sokou is the oriental counterpart of the folklore creature Cockatrice. Sokou doesn’t have wings like it, though.

Continued in next thread...:)


Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Andrew_005 on September 02, 2006, 11:20:51 AM
Tailed beasts continued

Five Tails (Gobi),
Houkou
Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts: Houkou is a bijuu which looks like a five-tailed dog. Each tail of this creature represents one elemental power: Wind, Water, Earth, Lightning and Fire. They can cause catastrophic damage when used. Houkou will willingly destroy the nature to obtain the power he desires from these elements. He was once badly injured when he and Nekomata challenged Kyuubi. Strangely enough, he is the god of Illusion. Houkou lives in a giant, ancient tree.
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods: Battled 4 times; 3 Wins, 1 Loss
Wins: Sokou, Nekomata, Raijuu
Losses: Kyuubi
Fate: After receiving a severe wound, Houkou runs away to one of Japan's islands, and hides in a place near Kyushu’s Volcano - a giant tree, to heal his wound. But the tree's concrete position is not known by anyone.
Japanese Myth Appearance: A species of dog, with 5 long tails. Has a white coloured body. Each of the tails possess one of the five elemental powers, that used simultaneously can cause a big earthquake.
Ability: Attacking using mixture of elements; Houkou is skilled in each kind of element ability, and can also create instantaneously each kind of natural disaster.
Bijuu Strength Ranking: 3rd
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking: 5th
Symbolic Element: Illusion (Being the god of Illusions)
Origin / Discovered in: Near one of Kyushu’s volcanoes (Akase Lava Volcano, probably)

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六尾 | 雷獸 –
6 Tails (Rokubi),
Raijuu
Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts: Raijuu, a bijuu in the form of weasel, has four legs and very sharp claws. Its cry sounds like thunder. It was originally the god of Thunder, but because of Yamata no Orochi’s power, it was transformed into a beast. Raijuu can release a huge amount of eletricity for battle assistance.
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods: Battled 5 times; 2 Wins, 3 Losses
Wins: Shukaku, Sokou
Losses: Houkou, Yamata no Orochi, Kyuubi
Fate: A ninja called Sarutobi (That’s right, but we don’t know if it’s the series’ Sandaime), in the legend, effectively eliminated Raijuu by using the technique “Kinjutsu: Raikiri”. (Now the confusion starts. This is supposed to be Kakashi’s move, but the way of writing may be different from the actual jutsu, and Kishimoto probably changed this legend to fit the story anyway). What actually happens is that the technique counters the lightning released by Raijuu by cutting it, making the beast receive its own attack, and become severely wounded. (Thus the name lightning edge.) He then is sealed by Sarutobi with the “Tool of Power: Hidden Thunder Prison” into the seal in the Thunder Shrine.
Japanese Myth Appearance: A species of weasel with golden yellow fur. The whole body’s fur grows upright. Its six tails take a lightning shape, (unlike the crappy image I have, but it’s the closest to the legend) just like the ancient God of Thunder.
Ability: Fire caused by lightning, Lightning Thunder, Lightning bolts, Lightning elemental magic arts; Raijuu may also fly about as a ball of lightning / fire.
Bijuu Strength Ranking: 5th
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking: 4th
Symbolic Element: Lightning (God of Lightning)
Origin / Discovered in: Underground the Thunder Shrine in a town in Kyoto
Personal notes: If this is right and we go by speculation, then could Kakashi have battled with the Raijuu jinchuuriki before? Raijuu also resembles the Pokemon Raikou.
More info about Raijuu: Raiju is also depicted as the companion of Raiden, the Shinto god of lightning. While the demon is generally calm and harmless, during thunderstorms, it becomes agitated and leaps about in trees, fields, and even buildings (trees that have been struck by lightning are said to have been scratched by Raiju's claws).
Another of its peculiar behaviors is sleeping in human navels. This prompts Raiden to shoot arrows at Raiju to wake the creature up, thus harming the person in whose belly the demon is resting. Superstitious people therefore often sleep on their stomachs during bad weather. Other legends say that Raiju will only hide in the navels of people who sleep outdoors.

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七尾 | 貉 –
Shichibi (Seven Tails), Kaku
(Also read MUJINA)
Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts: Kaku is a bijuu in the form of badger. Its Kanji is also read as Mujina, which is the name the Japanese subspecies of badger (Meles Meles Anaguma) receives in some parts of Japan. It has seven tails, and is the smallest bijuu out of the nine; though it is the most cunning and stealthy. Kaku hunts its prey underground most of the time. It kills by crumbling/destroying the piece of land that is under its target, making it fall right into his open mouth. Above land, whenever he is around he can transform into any type of creature, but he is unable to do it if he doesn’t have clay.
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods: Battled 4 times; 1 Win, 3 Flees
Wins: Sokou
Escapes: Nekomata, Isonade, Yamata no Orochi
Fate: Kaku’s storehouse of clay in a hole is found, and is burned by warriors. Kaku is unable to transform, and is defeated by the brave warrior Ikkyo Soujin, who proceeds to seal it with the “Tool of Power: Remnant Earth Altar” into the seal in the Earth Shrine.
Japanese Myth Appearance: Kaku is the smallest Bijuu. It has a blue color, and is good at using clay camouflage. Kaku is very difficult to bump into.
Ability: Transformation (Henge), Clay, Earth elemental magic arts
Bijuu Strength Ranking: 7th
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking: 3rd
Symbolic Element: Earth (God of Earth)
Origin / Discovered in: Underground Sacrificial Altar in the Nagoya outskirts
Personal notes: Resembles Deidara pretty well.
More info about Kaku: Mujina (貉) is an old Japanese term for a badger. In Japanese folklore, these animals were avid shapeshifters, and one of the forms they were purported to take was that of a faceless ghost. This particular sort of monster is often referred to by English speakers as a mujina, but the Japanese know them as nopperabou.


八尾 | 八岐大蛇 -
Eight Tails (Hachibi),
Yamata no Orochi
(Also known as Hachimata)

Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts: Yamata no Orochi is a Snake bijuu. It has crimsom red eyes, eight heads and eight tails (also depicted to having trees and vines growing around them) and has the power of the Demon world, a symbol of evil. Each head of Yamata no Orochi represents a symbol: Soul, Ghost, Evil, Devil, Monstrous, Kill, The Afterworld and Death.
Its powers were originally weak, the members of the Kusanagi clan, when attacking it, acted carelessly, using the legendary sword Kusanagi no Tsurugi (Oro’s sword). Because of that, as a consequence, Yamata no Orochi takes the sword from them, absorbing the power contained inside, and becoming an incredibly powerful creature, and finally storing it in its body.
With the new power, Yamata no Orochi releases an insane amount of dark energy, awakening the other Bijuu and becoming arrogant. Yamata no Orochi proceeds to defeat many of the Bijuu, but when it battles with Kyuubi, it is defeated. The cause of this is simple: Kyuubi has an unlimited amount of power, making even a hole in the Kusanagi sword. As this happens, it shows how tremendously powerful Kyuubi is, deserving of the “King of Bijuu” title. Not even Sarutobi and Enma (I’m not sure how those two are into the legend) could scratch the Kusanagi no Tsurugi. (That makes connections to the Oro x Sandaime battle)
Legend also depicted it as having a power able to rival Kyuubi’s [in quality], but the fact is, Yamata no Orochi’s does have a limit.
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods: Battled 5 times; 4 Wins, 1 Losses
Wins: Shukaku, Isonade, Kaku, Raijuu
Losses: Kyuubi
Fate: Yamata no Orochi awaits a genius of the Yagami (NOT the Kanji of Yagami from Death Note, but Yagami as in Eight Gods: 八神) clan, which is the arch enemy of the Kusanagi clan. The purpose is to awake it [Yamata no Orochi], in order to fight Kyuubi again.
Since Yamata no Orochi’s power inherits in the Yagami Clan, If the heir appears as the first genius in 1000 years that is able to awake Yamata no Orochi’s ability, it will be completely restored. Once the process is done, the genius with such crucial task will be destroyed due to the true body of Yamata no Orochi resurfacing, which has an all-new power. It won’t be found before the decisive battle with Kyuubi, and will be able to kill no matter of thing, destroy any type of place, and attain infinite vision (as Kyuubi has). The core of Yamata no Orochi’s power is in a kind of forbidden sealing jutsu. As soon as the Yagami clan heir comprehends enough of it, a bigger, much stronger power will surface in the grasp of Yamata no Orochi.
Japanese Myth Appearance: A super Snake of Eight heads and Eight tails, attached to a single body. Has a deep brown color. It definitely is the biggest bijuu - the lenghth of it is over eight mountains. Originally, it was weaker than Houkou and Nekomata; however, that was 1000 years before a brave warrior tried defeating it with the Kusanagi no Tsurugi. In the process, the sword’s power is absorbed instead by Yamata no Orochi, thus greatly expanding his power. He continues though to be able to use freely the sword in his belly.
Ability: The legendary sword: Kusanagi no Tsurugi; summoning of evil spirits
Bijuu Strength Ranking: 2nd
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking: 2nd
Symbolic Element: Devil
Origin / Discovered in: An old battlefield in Osaka
Personal notes: Now, everyone knows this one resembles Orochimaru, but what I like is the “Yagami genius” legend, which OF COURSE screams Sasuke.
More info about Yamata no Orochi:
There is the story of the killing of the Eight-Headed Serpent by Susanoo. According to the legend, a local town had been living in fear of the Serpent, and the townspeople offered the sacrifice of a young girl each year to keep it appeased. Lord Susano heard about the town's dilemma, and became determined to slay the beast. He exterminated the serpent by serving it alcohol, and then cutting off its heads while it was intoxicated. Between the Kagura performances, this one is the most famous.

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九尾 | 九尾の妖狐 –
Nine Tails (Kyuubi),
Kyuubi no Youko
(Nine-Tailed Demon Fox)
Jinchuuriki: Uzumaki Naruto
Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts: This is a bijuu in the shape of a nine-tailed fox, and the strongest of them all. The reason he is so powerful is simple: Kyuubi has an unlimited amount of power, earning it the “King of Bijuu” title. The power is generated by Kyuubi’s Fire Seal, and as a result, after battling for 100 years with Yamata no Orochi, it becomes exhausted; but Kyuubi continues standing, able to fight. It is also pretty cunning and smart.
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods: Battled 4 times; All of them victories
Wins: Nekomata, Houkou, Raijuu, Yamata no Orochi
Fate: In unclear whereabouts, Kyuubi continues to kill all the people on his way to find the one who awakened him, and the one who managed to seal him before. (That being Yondaime, probably) Yamata no Orochi didn’t tell Kyuubi, though, that the one who awakened him was the Eight Tails himself.
Japanese Myth Appearance: Kyuubi no Youko is the strongest (S Level) Bijuu of the Japanese Myth. Its body has a red fur; Kyuubi represents the element of Fire. Its abilities are incredible. Because it has never been defeated by any youkai, its total strength is unable to estimate. His tails create cyclones by spinning quickly, and Kyuubi proceeds to rip its enemies with its huge claws. At the same time his fur may shoot fireballs similar to meteorites endlessly, instantly destroying villages. In the ancient Bijuu wars, a challenge results in Houkou being severely wounded, and Nekomata nearly dying, but ending up being rescued by his master, Shinigami (God of Death). Yamata no Orochi depended on the Kusanagi no Tsurugi to fight Kyuubi, but was defeated and the sword received a cracked hole, courtesy of our kitsune.
Ability: Fire element attacks, Flaming claws, and other things depicted above
Bijuu Strength Ranking: 1st
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking: 1st
Symbolic Element: Fire (God of Fire)
Origin / Discovered in: Hidden Altar of Gods in Kobe
Personal Notes: Interesting how he searches for the one who sealed him. Also, it would be nice if Oro was the cause of Kyuubi’s awakening – the reason Kyuubi attacked the village may very well be because it’s the place he was last seen.
More info about Kyuubi: The Kyuubi is an intelligent demon that is capable of speech and has a scathing, sadistic personality. However he has also a sense of fairness and sarcastic honour, as he sometimes helps Naruto when he is in a difficult situation. This could be for purely selfish reasons, however, for it is speculated that if Naruto dies, then the Kyuubi will die with him. It seems likely that the Kyubi has some concept of a loathing respect for Naruto and even more so for the Fourth Hokage.


Origanally posted on Narutofan Forums http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=110272
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 02, 2006, 01:10:23 PM
  Kishi bases his story on jap legend...  lots of theories about Oro bieng the 8 tails or having it...  might have some  truth as he definately not normal... But kishi doesn't stick completely to jap legend , the Sanbi isn't a shark , its a crab thingy...
  He modeled Akatsuki after the 9 biju , so oro took after the 8 tails... thus similarities...
 
  Its amazing though that ancient jap legends are so close to English  and norse eg. The legend of saint george , man killing a dragon for a girl closely resembles the Japanese legend of Susanoo killing the 8 tails..  A cockatrice like demon etc. makes you wonder if these things had any truth .


 dunno if we should take what you posted too seriously , as too many times before know-it-alls have posted utter nonsense claiming it was naruto storyline, i don't think Kishi would let out his story yet ,  i dont' even think he finished thinking it up himself....
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 03, 2006, 12:43:07 AM
 Bijuu are japenese legend ...  Like what western dragons , gargoyles , werewolves , vampires etc. are , Kishi takes his ideas from jap legend to some extent...
 

    Yes naruto appears to be learning a wind rasengan atm...

     We'r not 100% of  the details of Yondaime's jutsu... But it looks like teleportation.. I'v seen Kakashi and other jounin do something like it in the anime... And orochimaru , so ''Summon Moving'' isn't unusual , but Yondaime is the only one to use it in battle...f moving  fast like that without Byakugan/Sharingan is problematic .
    With Chidori only Sharingan users can use it effectively because they move so fast that normal eyesight is useless, so a non sharingan user can at best go in a straight line , or around something he knows is there  ... .
   Now if you were to appear on any spot you want in a split second you won't have a great idea of whats at the location , and may be open to attack... As well you will probably need a seal to have a location to teleport to , and not everyone is skilled at making seals as we'v seen , usually its only jounin/Hokage level people that use them... Yondaime on the other hand , is so skilled he can write the whole seal in a split second, or apply it with just a touch..
   Besides that it probably uses a nasty amount of chakra  or at least needs alot of skill.

 always knew crixx was funny  : P
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Andrew_005 on September 03, 2006, 03:40:26 AM
Bijuu are japenese legend ...  Like what western dragons , gargoyles , werewolves , vampires etc. are , Kishi takes his ideas from jap legend to some extent...

where ur correct is it is legend, but we can't overlook the fact that he has included almost all these jinchuuriki in his comic. Maybe he didn't outright say it, but we know Akatsuki is going after them(jinchuuriki) and we knoe kisame is a shark( not a crab.....ROFL) and has a sword called sameha (like the legend) so I don't think that Orochimaru having the 8 tails inside him is far off. According to the legend, Yamato no Orochi had awaken the 9 tails and it said the 9 tails was seeking the person who did that. Maybe thats why it attacked Konoha (Orochimaru was in Konoha at the time) and lets not forget the fabled sword of kusanagi that lies deep within Oro's stomach...see any similarities???

With Chidori only Sharingan users can use it effectively because they move so fast that normal eyesight is useless, so a non sharingan user can at best go in a straight line , or around something he knows is there  ... .

this makes absolutely NO SENSE, you are saying that Gail and lee could use chidori (cuz i know they much much faster than sasuke and kakashi)
 
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 03, 2006, 01:43:45 PM
 i  said ONLY SHARINGAN users ,  if Lee and Gai could use lightning chakra yes they could try to do it , but like Kakashi before sharingan it would be as dangerous to them as to the enemy , look at your picture,  if Sasuke didn't have sharingan to dodge gaara's spikes he would be dead ..   
   Read the manga, yondaime himself said it was a half complete jutsu (without sharingan) as you cannot see if the enemy guards or attacks you , or even if you do see , you can't stop easily .
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Andrew_005 on September 07, 2006, 03:08:33 AM
hmmm...can't say i remember reading that, but if u can tell me what ep manga maybe i can understand a bit more
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: W1nTry on September 07, 2006, 06:46:31 AM
Trini is right here, in fact in the latest manga kakashi was explaining that the Rasegnan was incomplete and how the sharingan completed the chidori as it allowed the user to be able to dodge a counter attack.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Crixx_Creww on September 07, 2006, 09:52:35 AM
first off

alyuh neeeds to stop hating on the love itachi and i have for each other.

Secondly andrew, it took the 4th 3 years to MASTER the rasengan.
Naruto hasnt mastered it yet, as ive said before. Mastery includes doing one handed rasengans, like jiraiya does alll to easily, childs play even, like kakashi clearly can do quite easily and also being able to do one handed oodama rasengans, like the one naruubi pulled off.
N00by naruto can still only do rasengan with aid of a clone.
I bet even sasuke can do one handed rasengans.
and now with juin 2 he can do one handed uudama rasengans.. and.... wait...

Supposed teh jutsu that oro begged sasuke not to do was not a mixed chakura type jutsu like i thought all along... but.. what if sasuke and oro have learned how to perfect rasengan?
What if they have learned how to manipulate shape and nature of chakura to the extent that they have some sort of super electric fire rasengan O.o wow and throwable like a genki dama!!

Is possible with the way sasuke raised his hand after performing some quick seals when he was gonna kill them.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Synchronomyst on September 07, 2006, 11:51:10 PM
Small Input:


Yondaime teleported. The kunai markers he left were summoning marks. It wasn't even Goku's instant transmission where he turns himself into a photon and travels. It's -really- instantaneous....until Kishimoto decides to change it.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 08, 2006, 01:11:19 AM
    One thing we'v seen with naruto so far is that people don't like to use other people's techniques.. Even Kakashi prefers Chidori to Rasengan... And sasuke/Oro have  too much pride to use n00by naruto's jutsu anyway..
   I think Sasuke's ultimate jutsu was a fire technique... if i remember correctly he raised his hand to form the Tiger seal and said 'Katon...' Mixing two techniques is something pretty hard , we haven't really seen anyone besides Haku and Yamamoto , who posses blood line ability (or something similar for yamamoto) combine two elements to make a new one eg. Ice , wood .... What naruto is doing is different , he's trying to combine extreme chakra manipulation (rasengan) with chakra alteration (wind chakra) , which is apparantly so hard that even Yondaime couldn't do it.

  ******* spoilers*******
  latest manga definately has naruto trying to make a wind rasesngan , and one of the konoha teams and shikamaru looking like they capture an akatsuki member
*****
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: W1nTry on September 08, 2006, 08:31:56 AM
Actually Trini they were trying to KILL him, not capture him. They RAN him through on both sides with 2 huge blades... of course from the hint of the next chp, it won't do them much good as I suspect Kidan has some kind of undead technique. THat aside Trini is right in that what naruto is trying to do is extreme chakra SHAPING manipulation and nature manipulation. It was said that only a FEW nin have been able to accomplish that, Kakashi IS one of those nin (if you read it over in the last 2-3 chps, he explained where he uses nature manipulation to form electricity then uses shape manipulation to control its flow, length and concentration). Anyway, Naruto on the other hand is essentially doing the same as chidori, save Rasengan is MUCH more focused than Chidori. As Kakashi put it, rasengan is EXTREME shape manipulation, thus combining the 2 (shape and nature) on THAT level is near impossible for most.

I liked that naruto was going Naruubi too, man was about to bust out 4 tails OUI! Seeing how linear the story has been, I would bet on Sasuke's technique being similar to what naruto is attempting to acheive. That is, Shape and nature manipulation on a higher level. THe fact that he can do chidori means he at least in a fundamental way ALREADY can do both together. However maybe he has surpassed this and has combined lightning, fire and shape manipulation OR what I think is more conceiveable is that he has combined fire and lightning but not shape. If it's a utlra powerful jutsu to obliterate your opponentS (meaning them all in 1 shot) shap would be less relevant as he just intends to swamp the area with lightning/fire. Thus I think we can look forward (hopefully) to another Sasuke/Naruto showdown with Sasuke using a multi-NATURED attack vs. Naruto's Extreme Shape/1 nature jutsu. That way neither character is too far above the other and they both have techniques that are unique to both.

I have a question, how many ppl suspect Naruto will NOT learn this technique in training and will figure it out on the battlefield? show by raise of hands.
*W1nTry raises 2 hands and a foot*
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on September 08, 2006, 05:32:34 PM
EKING raises his hand knowing thats wat will happen

....Trini thanks for tellin me that bout d latest chptrs ......Im gonna read ouit al the manga 2nite....ah reach chptr 28x...
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on September 09, 2006, 07:47:30 PM
yeah i think that's gonna happen as well......but there's always the chance that it mite not n he mite learn it but we wont see it until he decides to use it in battle....against non other than sasuke........
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on September 09, 2006, 09:26:57 PM
i feel naruto gonna almost kill Itachi with that move an sasuke will come after him


yayayayayyyyyyyy i read out all d manga dis mornin.........
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 10, 2006, 01:57:25 AM
  i doubt even after this new jutsu he'll be on itachi's level , more likely on one of the weaker akatsuki members.. or more specifically one of the slower ones , no matter how much damage the new jutsu can do , naruto is still too slow to catch itachi or sasuke with it... Notice he has only really caught one person with rasengan (kabuto), and he caught him because he was unaware.... Itachi knows alot of naruto's moves from the last encounter , and will  know not to get catch .

    The sasuke-naruto fight was  purely 'who is stronger' , thus you had both smashing into each other with chidori/rasengan, but in a conventional ninja battle nobody wants to eat a rasengan to see if he could handle it. Thats one thing Chidori has over rasengan, especially since the user has sharingan , you gonna get hit unless you REAL bloody fast , or have sharingan to block it.
 
   What might happen is that Yamamoto or Sakura will hold itachi down with some jutsu long enough for naruto to hit him... And i'm pretty sure he'll survive ... Itachi, Sasuke ,Orochimaru and of course Naruto are characters that aren't gonna die any time soon... probably not for the next 100 manga chapters at least , while Oro can't touch akatsuki , he's one of the most important baddies, Kishi didn't put so much effort into any villain other than Itachi , he will likely be the 'last boss' in the end .
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on September 10, 2006, 11:15:58 AM
thats if there is an end
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on September 10, 2006, 01:23:14 PM
There will be an end, but who knows wat will happen, maybe itachi will be the last boss or maybe it'll be the leader of akatsuki. What i would like to know is wat sasuke read as to what is the true purpose of the sharingan and the uchiha clan....the thing that itachi told him to go and read under the 7th matt in their temple.....dat seems interestin. any thoughts? Oh and has anyone noticed how lame the manga is makin Gaara out to be? I mean he hav real moves and does do some real dred shit but in the end he does always lose...........it only happen since he decide to be good and not use the shukaku at all.......
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 10, 2006, 02:32:00 PM
Gaara sacrificed himself for the village..  kishimoto made a point of doing that to show how he changed.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on September 10, 2006, 02:33:17 PM
imagine if naruto didnt use kyuubi he wud be lame too...............also,evil ppl are more aggressive
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on September 10, 2006, 10:20:35 PM
where dat come out from....(yuh had too much to drink?)
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: W1nTry on September 11, 2006, 09:57:53 AM
Umm keep this thread as the namesake. Naruto Plot Endings aka theories. Make another thread from personal challenges/info otherwise deletel iymc. That aside I do agree with Crixx that naruto's style is not one of speed. Strategy for sure (recalls being in AWE in the Zabuza fight where he turned into a Sharuken). However speed is something that naruto is capable of (even if he doh disappear like many other nin 'seem' to crixx). Remember it took the 3rd part of the sharingan for sasuke to keep up with his kyubi enraged speed. If naruto can harness this vast and inexhaustible source of chakra and convert it into speed, he'll soon overcome the sharingan's ability to keep up. Remember what itachi said about Gai. I think even a combination of wind chakra with chakra concentration for speed would make for some interesting jutsus. Imagine Naruto being ultra fast and using wind to either protect himself (Read Jin from the current filler eps in Bleach) or to slow down opponents whilst he is ultra fast. Then even if the Sharingan can see it, if he can't react (lets say due to hurricane gail force winds) Naruto will land many a hit.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Crixx_Creww on September 11, 2006, 11:03:17 AM
....
lets be real

naruto is no mc gai or rock. THe only two people as fast or faster than sasuke and itachi.
Sasuke and itachi are blessed with superior reflexes, so its not just that they are fast but that they can react equally as fast. Also, remember that sasuke was able to learn rocks speed by emulating him, which is pretty cool. He doesnt have super stamina though so he tires at rocks speed, but he does have sicko recovery so thas not a problem.

Um, naruubis speed wont be an issue to sasuke. When he evolved to the three swirls sharingan, naruto was moving in slow motion, runnin into sasuke's out stretched fist, instead of sasuke actually having to throw a punch ( that was funny, come on yu have to admit that)
and now that sasuke knows how to manipulate kyuubi's chakura, he would also be able to read the kyuubi movements unlike before.

Sasuke is so far superior to naruto its not funny.
I mean he has oro teaching him!! admit how dangerous that is!!
Dont forget when kakashi challenged oro and when oro walked away laffing, kakashi was shivering and was like OMFG DID I JUST CHALLENGE ORO>>|??? AM I CRAZY!! lol

But anyways, again, i do not see naruto becoming a speedster like rock and gai.
Hes wayy to clumsy for that.

OH AND DONT GO LETTING NARUTO TAKE ALL DE MC CREDIT FOR DAT ZABUZA FIGHT!
it was only because naruto knew that sasuke could create shadow shurikens that he got the idea for hiding in the shadow of the shuriken.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: W1nTry on September 11, 2006, 01:25:17 PM
2 things crixx:

1. I don't belive Sasuke will be reading kyubi chakra, that whole episode inside naruto head involves direct eye contact and we're still speculating on exactly what happened there. If it was a genjutsu type ability or what. We've seen Oro inside naruubis head and Kyubi just growled him away. I am pretty sure if Naruto goes Naruubi, sasuke would encounter a similar fate (in the mind that is).

2. I do give sasuke credit for using the shadow technique, however it was all thought up by Konoha's #1 unpredictable nin. Sasuke and the rest were just sitting starry eyed while naruto came up with a brilliant plan.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on September 11, 2006, 08:06:34 PM
-how many tails came out during the naruto sasuke fight ???.....
-if lee/gai unlocks all gates wudnt they b fast enough to out do sasuke
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Andrew_005 on September 12, 2006, 01:37:18 AM
Crixx obviously biased toward sasugay. It was obviously a genjutsu that sasuke did, you think he really went into naruto's belly...lol
If naruto wanted to use the power of the fox sasuke couldn't stop that, When sasuke went level 3 against Naruto he said he could see the movements that different from reading the fox's movement. Sasuke is great but the difference between him and naruto is small and if naruto uses the fox he'll PWN sasugay...:)
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Crixx_Creww on September 12, 2006, 09:12:32 AM
is amazing how much in denial alyuh naruto fans are eh

if he use de fox he will get pawn steuips
like yu real forgetting that naruto DID yuse de fox an he DID still get own

it was not a forking genjutsu !!

de ass he go genjutsu kyuubi??
steups. It was an ability of sasuke's sharingan and the fox an all said that he was dispelling his chakura.

An alyuh talkin bout II biased? steups kishi say it, yet alyuh denying it and then wanna take alyuh inferences as being the truth
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: W1nTry on September 12, 2006, 11:00:21 AM
Crixx as best we can tell there is no proof of exactly what he did. The reason I mentioned genjutsu is because of the prinicple of how genjutsu works. The user uses his/her chakra to manipulate the flow in another person/s. Thereby creating an illusion of sorts. If we were to look at the premise, it uses my chakra to forcibly control yours. Thus by applying a similar thinking, Sasuke was able to supress the demon chakra by using his own to manipulate Naruto's chakra flow. Does that makes sense to you? its a theory of mine that holds true for both theories here.
On the 1 side, he is INDEED supressing kyubi chakra, albeit by supressing chakra circulation in naruto
On the other side is is akin to genjutsu in that it uses 1 nins chakra to manipulate what the other nin/s experience by manipulating their chakra flows.
Get it?
On another note, since we've seen Oro do the same and enter naruto's mind so to speak, it was clear that in the full naruubi form (i.e. more than 1 tail) Kyuubi is totally in control and all Sasuke would encounter at that point would by the power of the nine tails which he would NOT be able to supress at that stage.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Crixx_Creww on September 12, 2006, 01:01:30 PM
stuepsssss

the facts people the facts!!!

i doh know how alyuh does ignore dese mc tings yuh know~!
like alyuh forget a certain ultra uber uchiha petting kyuubi in he kennel?

sasuke show naruto ah form dat he pitbull notttt baddddddd!!
treat dat like ah regular dustbin terrier!!


And once again it couldnt have been a mc genjutsu.
it was more a technique, a latent one at that, of the sharingan.

Sasuke didnt hit naruto a genjutsu causing him to go within himself to converse with kyuubi!
Naruto was alreeadyyy talkin to kyuubi an tellin him mind he own business an ting.
sasuke jump he fence
walk een he back yard and start to pet de man pitbull.
FUSSS NARUTO NOT BAD!
how ah man go come een yur yard while yu dere an pet yur pitbull hoss?
lol!

And den wehn pitbull start to growl he slap it on he nose an tell him gone from here yuh damn ole pottong!

If we saw sasuke use his eyes or a seal and then naruto started getting images of sasuke in his head an ting then we coulda say ok it was a genjutsu, but it was nothing like that.

Sasuke would have had no prior knowledge of what kyuubi caged up would look like, so he could not have created that image for naruto to see.
Deal wit de facts people, sasuke inject needles in kyuubi.
steups

an alyuh does call me bias!
i doh make up ish to defend sasuke yuh know, i does just deal with wat happen.

Sasuke beat out naruto jacket plain an simple, as factually presented to us by kishimoto
yet naruto men wanna make endlesss excuse for naruto noobness and bout how he could beat sasuke O.o steups.
Bout how if he wanted to he woulda kill sasuke wit he rasengan, buh he just wanted to scratch de forehead protector.


Alyuh men! if all naruto big dutty stupid stinkin oodama rasengan could do is scratch ah man forehead protector. how he was supposed to have beaten sasuke???


Pfft, not even i think naruto that weak.
What happen was naruto was trying, just like sasuke, to done the fight with their ultimate move.
Sasuke dodged the rasengan while plunging the chidori into naruto and won the fight.

I freely admit, if sasuke had taken that rasengan flush to face, it probably wouldnt have had any pieces of him left. But unlike naruto, sasuke not stupid enuff to take a move that sicko flush to face.

So give up nah man, naruto lost that fight. His purpose of using that rasengan was NOTTTTTT to scratch sasuke forehead protector.

PLease realise that sasuke's protector getting scratched, was kishimoto being a good writer and poetically showing, that in sasuke defeating naruto he finnaly admits naruto's strength by having his protector scratched.

IT WAS A POETIC END TO THE FIGHT! SOO STOPPP MAKING EXCUSEESSSS!!!!

alyuh didnt see de piece of blue soap in sasuke hand at the end of that fight by de river??
levelll beat out naruto jacket on ah stone by ah river an soap him out with some blue soap!!

HE GET AH WHALEEEEEEEE OF AH WASH!!
AND DE PRICE??
IT WAS...

OHH MYYY GOSSHHH!!
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 12, 2006, 06:42:39 PM
thats if there is an end

   muss have an en... sooner or later kishi gonna get old , grey and dead...
  But i see it taking many years .
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on September 12, 2006, 08:01:20 PM
hopefully

-if lee/gai unlocks all gates wudnt they b fast enough to out do sasuke


nobudy answer meh...

In the sasuVSnaruto battle naruto onli had 1 tail ouut................wat if he had 4 (death to sasuke in the blink of an eye)
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 12, 2006, 08:56:17 PM
 sasuke also got stronger..  alot stronger than naruto did thanks to Oro's forbidden jutsu , drugs , sterioids etc...
    While ero-sennin wrote another book during those 2 years... i wonder how much' inspiration' he needed ^_^.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Bob on September 13, 2006, 01:52:23 PM
You know someting Crixx we have to disagree on the Sasuke ting. I never liked the pretty boy elite type characters in anime or manga (save for Aoshi). Its just too much!! immense power and good looks WTF! and a c**tholish attitude to match? Nah breds he does remind too much of dem pompous rich boys i does have to tolerate in reality. I identify with Naruto cuz my life aint no cake walk just like his.Always strugglin constantly havin people overlook and underestimate you.Alwys looking to pick a fight with you cuz u look like a pushover. But anyways enuff about narubob er me. Ill always root for the clumsiest ninja in the world. Do mind i will never wear orange NEVA!!
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Crixx_Creww on September 13, 2006, 03:11:55 PM
besides de stupidest colour in the worlddd for a ninja to wear. he has no talant and i cant respect that.


You actin like sasuke had a good life?
sasuke had it muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh worse than naruto imho.
He had a family and he lost it all, to the one person in the world he wanted to be like more than anything.
He was always in his shadow, used to get treat liek a red headed step child because he wasnt itachi.
then itachi come duss out everyone. dat uber harsh to have to live thru.

Sasuke used to get the same looks that naruto used to get, but in addition to that, he had to try and live up to everyones expectations of what a genius supposed to be.
I identify with him on that level... my life was alot like that.
and yu have to respect his talant. Nothing is wrong with his attittude.
None of yu could possibly understand what it was like thats why yu always bring him down.
Same kinda fools would bring down anakin too. Pfft.
Trash
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on September 13, 2006, 06:48:56 PM
orange rel badd eh................plus the colour kinda shows how naruto is......... http://www.crystal-cure.com/orange.html
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: spinner on September 15, 2006, 12:17:58 AM
im agree with bob, orange aint no ninja color...do u see ninja gaiden or shinobi running around with orange or any other anime charac.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 15, 2006, 09:45:35 AM
hopefully

-if lee/gai unlocks all gates wudnt they b fast enough to out do sasuke


 If anyone unlocks all gates they will become one of the strongest for a short period of time.. then dead.

nobudy answer meh...

In the sasuVSnaruto battle naruto onli had 1 tail ouut................wat if he had 4 (death to sasuke in the blink of an eye)
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: AR!Ø on September 30, 2006, 10:48:57 PM
I agree with the similarities to the Akatsuki, furthering that, it ties in with orochimaru trying to kill off the akatsuki, albeit in a duplicitous manner...not like the 8-tails...lol as for the seaarching for the one who woke him up, its like forshadowing for a naruto orochimaru battle eh?
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Crixx_Creww on September 30, 2006, 10:52:34 PM
so naruto could get own with no kinda fight?

pfft, the amount of lix naruto would get from oro if oro was trying to kill him an not use him for some plan
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Andrew_005 on October 01, 2006, 01:18:22 PM
as for the seaarching for the one who woke him up, its like forshadowing for a naruto orochimaru battle eh?

yeah it is... and i found out that Orochimaru left the village round the same time the fox was awaken, so maybe he did wake the fox. According to the legend tho if Oro gets sasugay then the hakuubi will become more powerful than the kyuubi. Dunno how Kishi is gonna do it tho
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 01, 2006, 05:45:51 PM
 where did you find that out?  we not sure exactly when he did leave , but we know that he was slated to be 4th hokage until everyone realised he was an evil mofo . Not sure if the fight with the younger 3rd and oro is cannon , but thats the point where he left... And it was pretty far back into the past judging by how old the 3rd looked.
       I'm betting that Oro will never get sasuke's body, or sasuke will resurect at some point . Kishi is a man to rarely kill main characters... I won't be surprised if sakura dies (What purpose she serving anyway?) and in some way turns sasuke back from the homoro side . Kishi is supposed to be heading to darker and darker overtones in his story all now , like J K rowling did with harry pothead , so kids grow with the story they continue to appreciate it , and to keep the older audience....
     The next man to die may be asuma, a little hint was slipped in in the shogi game with shikamaru , that he understood the need to sacrifice for the greater good... Right now he fighting two imba akatsuki people.
 
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 01, 2006, 07:08:17 PM
imba is joke yes
dem men retardedly imba

and yeah asuma is de pawn

and he was talkin bout the true king not being the hokage persay
hinting that is probably really shika
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: AR!Ø on October 01, 2006, 08:06:23 PM
Actually, he didnt get banished/exiled till after the fourth was chosen...remember he was really pissed when "Sarutobi-sensei" picked that other yellow haired dude...lol it only takes 1 rejection, then they start molesting boys and trying to find immortality
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: AR!Ø on October 01, 2006, 08:22:36 PM
lol what about d red scarf in shinobi? and Ichigo damn head orange..as for everything concerning sasuke, i copy and pasting dat in mih head so i could hit all my sauke hatin padners dat, thanks a hell of a lot crixx, i have some more sht to add to d word file...
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Cross on October 01, 2006, 11:36:36 PM
LOL so then i guess he molested kimimaro huh Kaguya?
cause i eh lying i find kimimaro was rather close to Oro
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: W1nTry on October 02, 2006, 12:56:43 PM
LOL so then i guess he molested kimimaro huh Kaguya?
cause i eh lying i find kimimaro was rather close to Oro


Fuh sure he molest Kimimaro, and prolly rest a hand on Sasuke by now, yuh eh see how he doh like Oro to touch him (recalls last meeting with sasuke and team Kakashi, when oro grabbed his arm and told him not to do  'that' jutsu). Oro definitely got to sasuke, hence sasuke hesitance to let Oro get too close again... prolly get the shake down again LMAO... I sure sasuke didnt realise he'd have to do all 'that' to defeat Itachi :p ent crixx!!! lol
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Cross on October 02, 2006, 01:49:17 PM
lol and to think sasuke was prepared to do ANYthing to beat his brother i guess you have to becareful what you wish for

And oro is a man with a long tongue eh
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 02, 2006, 02:04:32 PM
o.O

steups, alyuh keep talkin alyuh nonsense bout oro sama.

Alyuh ignore de fact dat he used to level blaze tsunade and alyuh really tink any man could come rong sasuke with any chi chi business when he have all dem konoha and sand girls tussin for de uchiha gong?

PLease eh.
Jealousy is ah hell of ah ting yes....

I tink kimimaru had get aids from somebody in water village first doh..
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Cross on October 02, 2006, 02:37:03 PM
But remember them konoha/sand girls can't help Sasuke get the the highest level of Sharigan regardless of what they do

Oro was the man to provide a way out......well in for himself
Also from the flash backs we got Oro wasn't on any girls from since

Besides Kimi only meet the gangster from Water for a minute
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 02, 2006, 05:54:52 PM
 LOL @ aids.. hmmm that would be an advantage of oro immortality no jutsu , once you switch bodies all the STDs you get from molesting people will go away .
   It would also make for a good weapon... If oro want to take a village down , he just need to pick up a nasty bug then spread the love to all the little boys in d village .
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: AR!Ø on October 02, 2006, 09:35:10 PM
lol i was about to suggest AIDS, u tief d very words from me, but no matter what, Kimi was, _IS_ the dreadest bitch oro evr had, and may evr have, cuz sauke definitely ent nobody biatch...leader of the sound 5? dat man shoulda be d mc general of the sound forces...sigh too bad theres none...oh and too bad he dead too..sigh...is a shame when stupid people does watch the episodes with that man and still say Gaara and Lee dreader than Kimimaro...
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Cross on October 03, 2006, 10:08:52 AM
So then how did they manage to beat him? huh?

I must admit after the naruto and sasuke fight by the river
that fight between Kimi and Gaara was the best (sorry i find the chuunin  exam battles was ALL that)

Kimi was bad yea...yet a drunken not to mention weak Lee was doing it to him (rather funny to)

Heard a rumor sasuke did bow once to Oro though but i don't snitch...
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: W1nTry on October 03, 2006, 11:53:24 AM
Kimi would have defeated Gaara and Lee if he wasn't dying, thats a fact. The man ALMOST did, but died JUST as he was about to do Gaara in. To be fair though, Kimi prolly has more combat exp than Gaara at that time. I doubt kimi woulda be able to come round the Kazekage gaara though. Also I always thought the best fight was Lee vs. Gaara but thats just my personal opinion. I do want to see the battle with Sasori though, that will be mad.... as a side note, anyone else but me thinks that in the last episode 205 I think, where they doing the flashbacks when Oro comes on and we see sasuke for a brief few seconds... doesn't that scene look like for the manga (not filler) where Oro JES fight Naruubi lvl 4 and oro returns to his lair where Sai see's Sasuke for the first time and Sasuke tells Oro how he should hurry and teach him a new jutus? thats just me... I think the scene is an indication that the fillers should end VERY soon. As its easy to just voice over different lines. Expect to see that exact same clip in the anime when it returns to the story arc.
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 03, 2006, 07:46:45 PM
  True storyline  may start this week , as the last episode was a 'recap' of the storyline events , the next is to be a 90 minute episode airing on THURSDAY . The move from wednesday to thursday will put naruto's normal timeslot next to Pokemon,  one of tv tokyo's top shows . The 90 minute episode will cut into Pokemon and several top shows ... meaning REAL people will be mc pissed if its another shitty filler . taking up 90 min of primetime they have to come real good.
    Also thursday is my bday : ) would be the best gift i could get next to world peace . Heck i'd give worldpeace up for the world to be like naruto .
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: EmpireKing on October 03, 2006, 10:20:48 PM
i wud too....i wud love to be ah ninja like naruto(being able to perform jutsus)

hopefully the fillers end this week
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Cross on October 04, 2006, 08:09:45 AM
um....
that last comment by empire king should be in the "...Too much naruto thread"
Oh and good heads up on the end of the fillers though i know it's jus an idea (don't like fillers at all haven't seen an espisode since that rain dude with the legandary sword which was crap even though Lee did get drunk again)
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: EmpireKing on October 04, 2006, 03:38:58 PM
most likely the fillers hav com to an end.....90mins special
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Cross on October 05, 2006, 09:43:25 AM
I wonder if naruto let loose the fifth tail what kind of  destruction will take place.......
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: W1nTry on October 05, 2006, 10:14:59 AM
I wonder if naruto let loose the fifth tail what kind of  destruction will take place.......
Michael Jackson... I mean Orochomaru's nose will fall off :p
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Cross on October 05, 2006, 10:28:05 AM
LOL don't let Oro fans see that....

but for real what if Oro was once black...wasn't statisfied as the only Negro-nin in Kohonoha and decide

"well since i going white might as well Immotralise my self"
but instead of releasing an album of the same title he decide to go after the rel deal

I do however draw close reference to how it jus SO happen that Oro's base was/is in hidden SOUND Village....
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: W1nTry on October 05, 2006, 10:37:03 AM
I do however draw close reference to how it jus SO happen that Oro's base was/is in hidden SOUND Village....
LMAO..... and wha bout the fact that he summoned the 1st and 2nd Hokage's as backup...dancers :p
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 05, 2006, 10:56:16 AM
steups

is amazing how men does jealous de oro yes

teaching his pimpin ways to kabuto and sasuke

how come alyuh doh come rong dat stupid talk wit jiraiya?? alyuh KNOWWW he was mollesin flikkin naruto
tellin him take off he clothes an bout how he lookin sexy in he boxers an ting
den touchin him on he belly an ah setta nastiness!!!
bout how he want nartuo stay in sexy no jutsu so he could pelt ah rongs!!! more nastiness!!!

if oro was like dat, ultra dreadest badman kabuto wouldnt ah be limin wit him so alyuh mellow.
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: W1nTry on October 05, 2006, 11:05:55 AM
Like Crixx forget the last body (read the one that lost its ability to use his jutsu from hands being sealed) was a lil  GIRL. Oro is a batty man parading around as a teacher. Molesting poor sasuke and man like kabuto does WATCH..... 0_o remember when oro take over his present container? Kabuto was busy busy video taping dat $hit to sell on Leafbay!!!

Doh gemme wrong, when Jaraiya ask Naruto to stay in the sexy-no-jutsu, that was just wrong, but at least its the female form we know he obsessed with, Michae... I mean Oro does be taking man/woman/animal body brisk brisk.... poor sasugay...
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 05, 2006, 11:19:09 AM
steuppsss once again
coming wrong oro wit dis dotish talk, and kabuto too anddd sasuke daimo

but not pullin up jiraiya on he nastyness!!!
is not just the sexy no jutsu is de tellin him to strip dong to he draws for him to touch him up by de river.

Steups @ kabuto does watch steupsssss.

Oro breakin out bad ting like dat lil sound girl and beatin out tsunade an ting normal normal
when yu reach dah level of pimposity men does realll hate dread lord.
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Cross on October 05, 2006, 11:51:37 AM
Crix see the thing is.....we have evidence of Oro's "preference" of little boys kimi,sasuke,itachi but WE ALL KNOW ITACHI NAH DEAL PON THEM BATTY BOY SCENE Oro had to rock back before he get killed

And Jira he is jus a perv we all know small thing
Sexy no Jutsu had men like sarotubi tisic at one point

Plus Kabuto look like a good perv himself lol filming the behind the scenes Oro and Sasuke movies to go home and like he self
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 05, 2006, 12:24:46 PM
steups, alyuh men is ah scene yes
it have video evidence of jiraiya fondling naruto

buh alyuh ignoring that completellyyy and only speculatin on what alyuh FEEl oro doing
which he completely is not.
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: W1nTry on October 05, 2006, 12:34:22 PM
Crixx yuh starting to sound like Macoly Culkin (or however yuh spell his name) saying Michae... I mean Oro innocent... like they have some history with you and Mi.. Oro dere yuh trying to cover up oh wha? LMAO. And yes Jaraiya hit Naruto a dread blow to the stomach, but let's NOT FORGET WHY, he was trying to UNDO ORO molestation :p right talk done. BTW they have video evidence of Oro molesting Naruto FIRST eh! and of course he put the cursed Hicky on Sasuke, Kimi, the sound 4, that chunin examinar, and the 3rd alone know who else child, brother, tanty, uncle, etc. LOL
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Cross on October 05, 2006, 12:46:12 PM
LOL AHAHAHA
"the third alone know.."

LOL "Cursed Hicky"

Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: EmpireKing on October 05, 2006, 04:36:49 PM
ARE their any negro people in NARUTO
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: AR!Ø on October 05, 2006, 07:24:40 PM
lol orochimaru lil girl body was negro, u ent see how de arms turn back when the 3rd seal him???
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Saxito Pau on October 05, 2006, 08:24:53 PM
LMAO + ROFL @ Kabuto selling Orochi/Sasuke pron videos on "Leafbay"

doh forget the 'experiments' Orochi do on dem lil babies in de manga... damn pedophile!!
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 06, 2006, 10:01:06 AM
-_-.....
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: EmpireKing on October 06, 2006, 10:21:29 AM
does any1 hav a link to watch/download  EPISODE203
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: spinner on October 06, 2006, 09:40:46 PM
Its not out yet....DatteBayo says the quality of the raw was poor so until a better one comes out, it might come out tomorrow or nxt week..besides its 3 eps in one (203-205)
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: AR!Ø on October 06, 2006, 09:56:37 PM
anyone seen the preview for that 90-minute special? whats it about?
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 08, 2006, 02:00:42 PM
90 min special is still filler , but the end is near . The 90 min special brough fillers up to 205 ( 202-205)  . Normal episodes should start by 211 or so , yes.. another month.
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: EmpireKing on October 08, 2006, 04:33:43 PM
i was readin somthing this morning that the fillers was surposed to be ended on 201

Quote
Ep.201 (Sep 20) will be the final filler, followed by 202 (Sep 27) which will be a clip show.

The Kakashi Gaiden Special will be on Oct 5 along with ep 203.


does anyone know of a date that i can watch the 90min special
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 08, 2006, 05:28:31 PM
 naruto is already on 205 , i said already , the 90 minute episode , 203 , 204, 205 are filler .
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: EmpireKing on October 08, 2006, 05:41:58 PM
okay
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Andrew_005 on October 08, 2006, 06:15:51 PM
where did you find that out?  we not sure exactly when he did leave , but we know that he was slated to be 4th hokage until everyone realised he was an evil mofo
He was very vague when he said it, but in the episode where he spoke to Kabuto, he said it's been more than 10 years since he left (Naruto was 13 at that time)and when he met naruto he only knew he was the nine tails kid after they fought. So i figured he left right before the fox appeared in konoha.

He wanted to become the 4th but Sarutobi didn't choose him. He left after the fourth hokage was chosen, as Kaguya-Kimimaro pointed out.

Oh!! and Asuma not gonna die no time soon
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Cross on October 09, 2006, 08:16:30 AM
the real question is

ARE THERE ANY DOUGLA's in NARUTO?....but i suppose there can't be perfect ninja's
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: AR!Ø on October 12, 2006, 12:31:44 AM
Errr....Asuma just got some new holes to breathe out of...courtesy hidan....Unless Shikamaru and d rest of d team know flicker, or tsunade right rong d corner he chances kinda slim...of course he IS a ninja soo...we'll see
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: EmpireKing on October 12, 2006, 08:40:13 AM
eyy tings does rel change in d world of naruto...so he mite hav some kinda wierd jutsu
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: AR!Ø on October 12, 2006, 06:11:07 PM
hah to save his life? we better hope so...all he do so far (jutsu) was blow a set ah hot cigarette smoke at hidan...and decapitate him with he windsabre...george lucas goin to sue kishimoto juss now
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 12, 2006, 06:14:32 PM
lol rofl
rofl hahaha i on de fone laffin my a$$ off at that rofl at cigarrette and wind sabre
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: EmpireKing on October 14, 2006, 09:45:11 PM
....lol...i thought he wud hav dont some kinda last-resort jutsu..


ummm wen is 206 coming out
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 15, 2006, 10:16:32 AM
205 came out this week, 206 next week ....
  For a story about ninja constantly at war people don't die as much as they should , kishi should pick up the slack a bit , he has alot of expendable chars he leaves lying around doing nothing, them two jounins with Asuma i don't even know their names .
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: EmpireKing on October 15, 2006, 11:48:55 AM
lol
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: AR!Ø on October 15, 2006, 05:14:48 PM
Errr...Don;t know if anyone picked up on this 1...Asuma + Kurenai = Konohamaru...thats just speculation, cuz u see how much they show you kurenai when asuma get stabbed and stuff?
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: W1nTry on October 16, 2006, 02:23:17 PM
Well speculation on who's the parents of Konohamaru has long come and gone... I think the general belief was that he is not asuma's kid but rather nephew... cyah rem the reasoning there though.... As for Kurenai... well we know she tisic over him but... I mean yuh really wanna be with someone who would ditch his kid? (if he is konohamaru daddy)...
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Nephilim on October 16, 2006, 04:18:52 PM
them two jounins with Asuma i don't even know their names .

one is genma i believe...

and if Konohamaru is Asuma's and Kurenai's kid, what is the japanese suffix for bastard?

Konohamaru - <insert bastard japanese suffix here>
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 16, 2006, 04:22:39 PM
ahahahah
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 16, 2006, 05:24:26 PM
Konohamaru MIGHT be asuma son.... no indication of Kurenai and Asuma having a close enough relationship to have had children  and the two of them i think , never were seen in the same room as Konohamaru thus far.. No indication was made of Sarutobi having children other than Asuma.. I don't even think we were made aware of Asuma bieng his son until the recent arc besides the likeness.
Title: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 20, 2006, 05:41:42 PM
************** SPOILER THREAD, DO NOT READ UNLESS YOU READ MANGA****************



















 With Asuma dead, and his secret revealed to shika of who the true 'King' in Konoha is , we now have a new , and probably supremely important part of the puzzle of the Naruto story. The next story arc, after naruto completes his jutsu , will probably focus around this character and the village once again . Akatsuki is collecting tailed beasts at breakneck pace, they already have up to the 3 tails at least, soon they will turn their eyes on Konoha and Naruto , both for the fact that they pose a threat to their plans , and they need Kyuubi.
     Also ,  the whole thing surrounding Danzo and Sai has shown that the Hokage is not the only powerful individual in Konoha , or the fire country for that matter . Other people may wield equal or greater power , and seek to wrest control of the village from her ,or undermime her plans. 

 The big question now is , who is the King? Think of the word, it connotes leadership, but we know its not the hokage , he is important , powerful but needs help , and his life will affect the future of Konoha . Our contenders are :
 Naruto ( in first place ) , surely will become extremely important eventually , is strong but is not nearly strong enough to stand up to akatsuki , may one day become hokage , but as it stands the only thing he commands is an army of kage bunshin .

 Danzo : (runner up) commanding his own squad of Anbu , the 'roots' (sounds like ganja planters too) who 'support the great tree that is Konoha' . He seeks control of the village, and was willing to contact orochimaru to achieve his ends , to incite a  new invasion of Konoha and then betray him (kill sasuke at some point, his body would become progessivly weaker as he approaches the point to need a new body, kill him? ) . All this reeks of a possible revolution  underway behind the scenes . But it is unlikely he is the 'King' as Asuma would not want him defended , and probably would have told Tsunadae if he knew .

 Unknown ninja : someone waiting in the wings that we do not know of , or have not considered ... like Sasuke maybe? Konoha's future will be in danger if Oro takes his body .Oro himself will be near unstopable , he could assasinate lots of Konoha ninja himself ,steal their jutsu , then invade when the village is too weak to stop him . Or he could kill the akatsuki leader himself and assume control of it , all 9 of them plus his army of sound ninja will sevarely F*** up anyone , Ero sennin and Tsunadae caah stop dat. And thats not even considering if he can use the bijuu .

 
 It likely isn't shikamaru as while he is hokage material and all , the village will live without him , he isn't that powerful presently .  As an aside , with Asuma dead, we would see if he had any chilren etc. probably next ep will be a funeral.

 Any other theories?


Title: Re: The 'King' of Naruto **** SPOILERS***
Post by: spinner on October 21, 2006, 08:04:08 AM
Damn....asuma died and here every1 thinking he would barely survive. Damn those waste ah time chunnin/jounin he was with!! waste ah title on dem fellas!! but moving on...those are some good theories but IMO doubt naruto would be the king hes talking about (but knowing those writers he just might be) and danzo, he more likely cuz he prolly got more connections in konoha than the 3rd and 4th hokage combined and hes really moving like ah ninja...real stealthy and in de shadows kinda way. Shikamaru would be a good candidate for the "king" but he just needs more powerful jutsus
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on October 21, 2006, 10:41:59 PM
The leader is probably the 4tth hokage's twin brother...........i also heard dat fillers r lastin till the 2nd quarter of nex yr.......but the episodes goin to be about the genins trainin. at least 1 episode per genin, but it mainly goin to revolve around sasuke.....jus a rumor dat goin around on d net............
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: EmpireKing on October 21, 2006, 11:14:10 PM
screww sasuke....hopefully the end of the fillers will b interesting
Title: Re: The 'King' of Naruto **** SPOILERS***
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on October 24, 2006, 12:07:17 AM
y does everyone think that the king is a single person?? my theory is that the king is not a person, but the entire village, the Village of Konoha. Asuma's comparison about the king thingy is to the game of shougi, which is a game similar to chess in that "one player" must attack and defeat the enemy king in order to win with "the many types of pieces" available in his arsenal , while simultaneously protecting their own "king". In this context, the "one player" would be the hokage, "the many types of pieces" are the ninjas that the hokage will use to fight with, and the "king" is thus the village that they all want to protect......."The player" strategizes(much like the hokage) and uses "different pieces" with different abilities(much like the different types of ninjas) to defeat the enemy "king"(much like takin down the enemy village). Also, the hokage in serious situations comes out to fight, and this could possibly be the Queen piece. The queen is the king's number one protector,being the strongest piece and the piece closest to the king, much like the hokage being the villages number one protector bc he is the strongest ninja there.

another way of relating it is that to a war between ninja villages. How does one village win the other in a war? it wins by the destruction of the enemy village. how do u win in shougi/chess? the annihilation of the enemy's king.It makes sense bc asuma said that the ninjas can be related to the pieces in shougi, even the hokage.It's chapter 316, read it. The village in this context is meant to mean everything, the village itself and it's inhabitants, everything and everyone........This is my theory(which i think is pretty good), i hope it makes sense to u, i cant explain well.....if anyone has any other theories or support/flaws in my theory, plz post!!!!!
Title: Re: The 'King' of Naruto **** SPOILERS***
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 24, 2006, 01:14:22 AM
Very good theory , but the thing is , Konoha is the single strongest village in the naruto world , it took two lesser villages , Sand and Sound , to launch an attack that did great damage but was repulsed, no one village or organization (short of akatsuki maybe) will be able to destroy konoha  entirely, so its very safe.
   Even if the 9 members of akatsuki and some sidekicks were to show up at konoha's front gate and blow it up , they likely won't be victorious . Only the elite of the elite jounin like Kakashi, Gai, Jiraiya could stand up against any one akatsuki member , but the whole konoha army , with all its anbu , together will be able to stop them (with heavy losses) .
    Seeing as the King's safety and the village's is linked, his death might as well be konoha's destruction. Surely if naruto is king , and Akatsuki plan to use all 9 bijuu to make an ultimate summon , or implant in themselves etc. that kind of power would make Konoha crumble in an instant...
    As it is i'm 90% sure the king is naruto, even if Danzo or Tsunadae were killed , the village would still have leadership from Jiraiya (Albeit he turn the place into a big brothel) , or even someone like Kakashi (who would make one of the best hokage imo).  And while we all would expect  Naruto to be king , the average  people of the naruto world won't... Remember , Shika and the younger chuunin don't even know of the nine tails , the people of Konoha think he's a nuisance and potential danger still deep down, and NOBODY except maybe Jiraiya knows that he (might be) is the 4th Hokage son.. or 4th hokage reborn wateva ...
    Tsunadae and the gang know how important Naruto and the 9 tails is,  and they do their best to make sure he is protected , remember he is never outside the company of a special jounin like the 1st hokage clone Yamamoto , Kakashi or Jiraiya , everyone else got to do missions where THEY were the leaders of a squad but him...
  Still Kishimoto might come and surprise us all, but we do know at least, it is a character we have met already likely, else Shikamaru won't have been shocked when Asuma told him...
 
 Looking back at the manga , judging by shika's reaction and what he said after 'Thats why you..' its likely most likely shika or naruto (re afirming my idea).. The whole thing of  sacrificing himself as in the Shogi game is the important thing... either Asuma died for :
A. Trying to stop Akatsuki in any way he can, protecting Naruto down the line.
B. Trying to save shika..
   A seems a bit shakey, as in any event the remainder 7 akatsuki can still WTFPWNzor konoha , but since no one man can handle them all,  i guess he was trying to do wat little he could...
  B is also shakey in one way , if Shika was so important Asuma might have tried to keep him off the mission, but also since he did try to keep an eye on him by bieng in his team (and not with Ino or Choji) it might still hold...

 on another note... Asuma dissapoint me too, if i was him i woulda try some  kind of kamikaze jutsu like the 3rd hokage used , or opened all 8 gates or something, its better to burn out than to fade out...
  Almost every major  konoha character who lost a big fight went out with some kind of bang , Rock Lee vs Gaara , Naruto vs Sasuke , 3rd hokage , Temari vs Tenten.. it gave us a sense of respect for them in defeat , but i guess Asuma was cool looking enought to warrant that anyway , and he WAS kind of disabled ,and against 2 imba men.
Title: Re: Possible Naruto Plot Endings
Post by: AR!Ø on October 24, 2006, 10:42:05 AM
screww sasuke....hopefully the end of the fillers will b interesting

hopefully the end of the fillers will b SOON
Title: Re: Naruto's Secrets revealed, Story of the Tailed Beasts
Post by: AR!Ø on October 25, 2006, 01:21:00 PM
No, no genam and raido r tsunades yes-men, dem does b fetchin bookd and whatnot 4 she...
d 2 chuunins is Izumo and Kotetsu
Title: Re: The 'King' of Naruto **** SPOILERS***
Post by: AR!Ø on October 25, 2006, 01:22:28 PM
yeah...i think kishimoto did that to show how bad d akatsuki is(another reason i mean) and to give konoha a reason to steel itself for the next assault, and make them see red
Title: Re: The 'King' of Naruto **** SPOILERS***
Post by: W1nTry on October 25, 2006, 01:46:36 PM
What if the King is a family in Konoha? I can't really suggest Uchiha since they're all but wiped out (would be interesting if they have been protecting 1 more Uchiha) this is however unlikely. I am leaning towards Naruto since he holds the 9 tails and last piece to the Akatsuki master plan. But back to my theory. There are other advanced bloodlines in Konoha, the highest remaining being Hyuga. It was clear from earlier on that they have great influence in konoha and are reffered to as 'the strongest'. It makes sense to me that either their bloodline or a particular member (read Neji) would be invaluable to konoha. Its just a thought...
Title: Re: The 'King' of Naruto **** SPOILERS***
Post by: AR!Ø on October 27, 2006, 06:42:16 PM
yeah, but with the strength of d hyuga clan, y would they need ealer 'pieces' to protect them? Maybe what Asuma told shikamaru was the reason akatsuki are attckin konoha,meaning he told shika bout d 9-tails
Title: Re: The 'King' of Naruto **** SPOILERS***
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on October 27, 2006, 07:43:52 PM
wat if the leader of akatsuki is a child born of both hyuuga and Uchiha?? and they kept it a secret......the leader is obviously a powerful B@D@SS!!!!! he leadin men like Itachi and d rest of dem.......he hadda be 1 powerful son of a BIATCH!!!!!! i still think the king is konoha village, asuma told shikamaru that he'll leave protecting the village up to shika, that's all.........i dunno, it's kinda ambiguous i guess...........
Title: Re: The 'King' of Naruto **** SPOILERS***
Post by: AR!Ø on October 29, 2006, 03:51:00 PM
WAYYY Andrew learn a new wordd!! Lol give up d Byaku-ringan theory nah dred
Title: Re: The 'King' of Naruto **** SPOILERS***
Post by: EmpireKing on October 29, 2006, 05:28:29 PM
I hav byaku-sharingan...........its cool cuz i can mess wit ppls heads

having that mite b funn







NARUTO IS THE KING
Title: Re: The 'King' of Naruto **** SPOILERS***
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 30, 2006, 05:48:56 PM
 Concerning the latest manga naruto definately is king, Akatsuki doesn't plan to destroy konoha directly  so the only thing important to them in it is Naruto . While Konoha could pose a threat , they don't know the akatsuki hidouts our plans , akatsuki will continue their operations just fine without major interferance.
Title: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: New Era Outlaw on October 31, 2006, 02:48:01 PM
Guys, I really hate to be a party pooper here, but there are just WAY too many Naruto threads floating around all over the place. If you're wondering what happened to several of them, I axed them, because they were all doing the same thing- discussing Naruto. There is just no need for a new thread every single time a new arc pops up in Naruto. When last I checked, this was the General Anime thread.

However, I've left the 'Signs that you have been taking in too much Naruto' thread alone, and I'm merging the most recent discussion thread 'King of Naruto' with this one. Discuss Naruto here, and only here. Thanks.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on October 31, 2006, 06:31:41 PM
Sure no problem New_Era_Outlaw...........thankz it's alot easier............back to the discussion:
possibly possibly and the possibility of naruto bein king is increasing, but i'm still stickin with my theory that Konoha is the king........cuz akatsuki's mission is to cause WAR and take over the world. so it may not be that konoha is a direct target (cuz the entire world is their target) but Konoha will get severely damaged in the process............bc almost all the ninja will hav to die for Akatsuki to be the only source of ninjas for missions................which is wat dey want.........dey want to eliminate all other souces of ninja so they can be the most powerful and the only set that all ppl can turn to.......ie rulers. and if dey accomplish their world domination, Konoha wont be Konoha anymore..............it would be sumtin completely different...not a place of peace anymore, but a place of suffering, unfair sacrifice and death..............so in a way, Konoha would "die". The name may be the same, but the village would hav completely transformed into sumtin unrecognizable from wat it was b4.............
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on November 01, 2006, 08:28:39 AM
So what if sasuke is king..?

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 01, 2006, 12:11:16 PM
It's doubtful that Sasuke is king. If he were, they would have been hunting Oro like no tom now, seeing as the transfer time is drawing imminently nearer. The idea of Konoha being king, whilst quite plausible... just doesn't sit well with me. Naruto is the other possible, but for him to be 'king'. Konoha would have to know more about the Akatsuki master plan and inherently the importance of the last biju thus naruto's importance to have him labelled as 'king'. Now from a certain perspective here's how I see it would work for naruto.

Akatsuki's plan is to dominate the Ninja world and subsequently the world as a whole. In order to do this, they need the 9 Biju from which I gather they intend to manifest fake biju's or other such high level threats so as to cause nations to request their biju eliminating services. They NEED the 9 tails for this, thus the 9 tails is now their HIGHEST priority and the last piece to get their plan moving. In Shoji the King is the most important piece. If he falls game over. Similarly, if Akatsuki can create biju using the original 9. They win GAME OVER, they're near unstoppable as it is, with the power of all the demons at their disposal, noone would be able to oppose them, even in a combined effort. THus Naruto is the most importnat piece and thus KING.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on November 01, 2006, 03:55:50 PM
Konohamaru is king............jus jokin

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 01, 2006, 06:31:10 PM
  Konoha does know of  Akatsuki's plans to get the bijuu,  even from the early attempt to get naruto by Itachi and sharkman they knew of his importance.  The kidnaping of Gaara would have  solidified this fact for them .
    Naruto is never outside the company of Konoha's finest : ero sennin , Kakashi ,Yamamoto . Though they  did allow him to come along on the first akatsuki chase  it would be like a move in chess : you won't expect your opponent to attack you with the king , and would be unprepared as such.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on November 02, 2006, 01:17:35 PM
  Konoha does know of  Akatsuki's plans to get the bijuu,  even from the early attempt to get naruto by Itachi and sharkman they knew of his importance.  The kidnaping of Gaara would have  solidified this fact for them .
    Naruto is never outside the company of Konoha's finest : ero sennin , Kakashi ,Yamamoto . Though they  did allow him to come along on the first akatsuki chase  it would be like a move in chess : you won't expect your opponent to attack you with the king , and would be unprepared as such.

leh?
"you won't expect your opponent to attack you with the king , and would be unprepared as such." that is like a jap-eng translation qui! :D
but i get what you trying to say, they won't risk killing naruto in order to get him,(at least not put his life in danger before they get the bijuu) and the only reason itachi and the fish didn't attack the first time is because of Jirayia, itachi might have a chance, what with mangeko and all, but sharkdude go dead.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 02, 2006, 04:12:42 PM
trini

you dont play much chess do you

using the king for attacks is almost always a sign of weakness.

unless your playing a far weaker opponent than yourself, then involving your king is almost always likely to make you loose the game.

the queen's gambit is one of my favourite openings but often times puts alot of pressure on my king's lane, and there fore has me in an offensively defense position for most of the game.

which i prefer, because i am adept at pulling off sneaky counter attacks that cause people to drop into a defensive state after they have spent the whole game attacking. Its quite entertaining.

Evidently the kings gambit is favoured by alot more players because of the relative safety the king's lane remains *rolls eyes* meh

Queens gambit with a nizmo variation ^_^ totally rocks

followed by a fianchetto bishi on queen  side

fianchetto on kings side after a castle is again classic rock solid king defense whilst being offensive.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 02, 2006, 08:32:07 PM
 Point is , attacking with the king is a stupid thing to do in almost any situation , thus they wont' expect you to do it .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on November 02, 2006, 09:15:14 PM
Isn't a ninja supposed to expect the unexpected? :huh:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 03, 2006, 08:20:44 AM
Let's not compare chess and shoji here ppl (I not sure what the exact differences are but let's leave the technicalities out and just appreciate what was said). I am no chess/shoji player, but the way devon laid it out, it makes sense. That aside, there is no naruto this week unfortunately so we not gonna see any follow on ftw. Sighs... ah well.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 10, 2006, 05:27:57 PM
******** SPOLERS************


Naruto finish his jutsu , and surpassed the 4th hokage !

  Doesn't look like too much , but it is cooler than rasengan .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 10, 2006, 05:49:31 PM
well he ent even perfect the rasengan so i have no faith in this waste of time jutsu neither

BUT OMFG @ SHIKA!!! usin de shadow on de blades!! dat will be tooo sicko!!


and shougi and chess share alot of similarities
the king in shougi is extremely powerfull as compared to the king in chess.

interesting fact about shougi is that almost every piece gets promoted
and to promote the piece it is flipped over
ill get some facts and post them

and of course yeah the piece highlighted by shika was the king
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 10, 2006, 06:45:13 PM
   Pffft crixx and his lack of faith... the anime is named NARUTO.. NAAA RUUU TOEEEE!

    It means , eventually , no matter what , every encounter nartuo has with anyone , no matter how badass , naruto will live ,and  find someway to beat his enemy.

  Naruto CAN'T use rasengan in the same fashion as Jiraiya and Yondaime , due to the fox , he can't control his chakra enough with one hand to spin it in several directions.. Thus he needs clones , but that is his strength. Because he has enough chakra and kage bunshin is second nature to him , he is the  ONLY ONE WHO CAN DO IT.
   If it was an easy , weako jutsu , kakashi and sasuke could copy it and use it against him.. but they can't .

 HE SURPASS THE GREATEST NINJA OF ALL TIIMEE.. WHAT MORE YOU WANT FROM HIM CRIXX?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Xenos on November 10, 2006, 09:05:14 PM
ent, sigh........another sarutobi has fallen, may he rest in piece and may shikamaru bring forth one hell of a revenge somaday.......and let kurenai kick/stamp him up a little while he's down too........
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Xenos on November 11, 2006, 07:23:11 AM
nah he wasn't, in the latest chap they showed a smallman crying for his UNCLE and naruto hand was on his shoulder, they didn't say it was konohamaru but i don't think it could've been anyone else but him since naruto was liming by him
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 11, 2006, 12:17:56 PM
steups @ surpassing the greatest ninja of all time

hoss you over disrespectfull to come rong de 4th wit naruto an he sh&^%&^%T
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on November 11, 2006, 02:26:35 PM
   Pffft crixx and his lack of faith... the anime is named NARUTO.. NAAA RUUU TOEEEE!

    It means , eventually , no matter what , every encounter nartuo has with anyone , no matter how badass , naruto will live ,and  find someway to beat his enemy.

  Naruto CAN'T use rasengan in the same fashion as Jiraiya and Yondaime , due to the fox , he can't control his chakra enough with one hand to spin it in several directions.. Thus he needs clones , but that is his strength. Because he has enough chakra and kage bunshin is second nature to him , he is the  ONLY ONE WHO CAN DO IT.
   If it was an easy , weako jutsu , kakashi and sasuke could copy it and use it against him.. but they can't .

 HE SURPASS THE GREATEST NINJA OF ALL TIIMEE.. WHAT MORE YOU WANT FROM HIM CRIXX?

he have a point eh, and naruto at his current level cannot supase the fourth BUT that don't mean it impossible.
naruto and Kage Bunshin and Prefect for each other, naruto's "barrel 'o chakra" and the tendancy to kage bunshin to distribute the chakra evenly means that anyone with out a huge amount of chakra to spare would be wating there time with it, i mean even kakashi said once that narutos chakra capacity is far beyond his (in the tree traing and when he first used his Magenkeo)

as a ninja sarutobi and the other kages were incomprehensibly strong and there training and personal genius got them there.
However naruto is FAR more powerful, but it doesn't make him a better ninja.
naruto's bijuu is what got him to genin status to begin with.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 18, 2006, 01:42:35 PM
 Plot is moving on again , a rematch with shika , chouji and ino + kakashi against the akatsuki , and we'll see naruto's new jutsu in action later . I guess this is a point where kishi wants to show how his old genin have grown . Gonna be a big fight ,  wish i could see it in anime sooner .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 23, 2006, 07:24:17 PM
 Latest manga is sweeeeeeeeeet! But even sweeter , though i can't read japanese , it looks like Naruto fillers may be ending soon,  this manga chapter has color pages refering to naruto  2 merchendize and comparing young naruto and old naruto... damn i wish i could read kanji .

  HOPE!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on November 23, 2006, 09:48:52 PM
SWEET! I hadda download that now...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: spinner on November 24, 2006, 12:43:25 AM
  it looks like Naruto fillers may be ending soon, 
 

hmm...where have i heard that before?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on November 24, 2006, 07:02:04 AM
  it looks like Naruto fillers may be ending soon, 
 

hmm...where have i heard that before?

 ^_^ i get so fed up, now i have anxiety from the manga...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 30, 2006, 11:24:25 AM
BAW!!!! 333 RAW OUT!!! BAW!!!!!!! KAKASHI WTFOMGPWNZS Kakuza bases..... they are S-ranked missing nin.... so they could pull a come back...maybe, but still this chp is WTFPWNAGE!!! someone kill this nin!!!

SPOILER ALERT:
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/2974/naruto333raw16oo0.jpg
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 30, 2006, 02:18:59 PM
hmm, i thought the last chapter was insane with the super duper sickolevel ness that shikamaru put dong i was like zomg wtf lol w00t wewt teh super duper ownage! how shika aloneee go conduct men on dat kinda level lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on November 30, 2006, 04:18:38 PM
fuh real shika come out and in a bout 3 moves had them owned!
is now we seeing the real shika potential, and he looking bad ass with the cigarette, not to mention he using the trench knives to mold chakra himself now.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on November 30, 2006, 06:18:46 PM
anybudy keepin up wit d anime.....wat episode it on now...has the fillers ended..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on November 30, 2006, 07:40:05 PM
Fillers ending officially in Februrary..was announced last week, about 11, 12 weeks (?) left i think
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 30, 2006, 09:00:42 PM
  can't wait to have these things in anime , the comic format  doesn't do the utter dreadness justice, i want to see the look on that fella face when kakashi OWNZ him !
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on December 01, 2006, 07:32:51 AM
this manga just gone up a level, yes!!  MC anime Fillers!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 01, 2006, 04:38:05 PM
  lawd though i now realise they can't end this so soon , them akatsuki men DID kill asuma , they gonna have some uber jutsu up their sleeves or at least Itachi or someone else will come to bail them out... I sense kishimoto might bring a rematch of Kakashi and Itachi , Mangekyou vs Mangekyou.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on December 01, 2006, 08:39:05 PM
My god...Kakashi rape d man...sigh these chapters just not long enough dammit
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 07, 2006, 10:19:04 PM
 i was right, they had an uber jutsu up their sleeves... Both of them immortal, the masked guy looks like he was sown together... sick uber jutsu that kakashi stop by using his chidori like Sasuke did kinda.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on December 13, 2006, 11:09:31 AM
Yeah but it look like 1/4 of he life (lol) gone, since 1 of d demon things on he back get kill...maybe he have to get hit at vital points(?) since hidan made a point of sayin "did he get your heart?" Hmmm...elementals? And the Chidori Kakashi do was like a kamehameha (sorry)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 13, 2006, 11:36:23 AM
lol i was like WDMC how de ass he do ah AOE raikiri buh wdf!!

lawl

some sort of spirit shadow puppeteer? steups
might hadda call in sakura de puppet slayer (lawl lol lawl)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 13, 2006, 01:25:33 PM
some sort of spirit shadow puppeteer? steups
might hadda call in sakura de puppet slayer (lawl lol lawl)
LMAO, fuh real @ puppet slayer... being a former puppet herself and her master being dead, now she is just Sakura the Puparian... great chp and totally expected that Kakuza not dead yet. I don't think he has to kill all 4 to kill kakuza, but rather 1 of the 4 took the damage from Raikiri and so in effect Kakashi didn't get Kakuza himself. I guess we'll see some more good action followed by a dramatic ending... perhaps a cooperative effort by the 3 chunin to slow or imobilize the two members to the point where Kakashi can focus his Mangekyou Sharingan and blink them out of existence. Or at least the whole of Kakuza and all save the head of Hidan. Cause after all they need to interrogate that head!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on December 13, 2006, 01:38:09 PM
335 summary:

needless to say....SPOILERS!!!!

Summary:
The Katon: Zukokku is a storm-like explosion of fire. Everyone splits to avoid it, but Kakashi is attacked by Hidan and goes one on one with him with a kunai. The fight is equal. Kakashi confirms he's used 4 Raikiri already. They figure out that Kakuzu has 5 hearts, and to kill him, they have to destroy all of them. Kakuzu confirms this, and that the hearts belong to other shinobi. By using his butcher techniques, he incorporates the hearts into his own body and is thus how he's able to use so many different elements. They decide to go after Kakuzu, who they know if they destroy the other 4 hearts, he'll die.  Shikamaru assumes the task of immobilizing Hidan. Shika asks for and is given back that thing he gave to Kakashi before they left Konoha. Shika takes Hidan on, but Hidan says that using Kagemane from far away isn't going to work. But Shika jumps in right in front of Hidan and captures him.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 13, 2006, 01:48:29 PM
Well this seems like a valid spoiler. We await pics and scanlations tomorrow... but a decent continuation... based on this Mangekyou seems a bit out of the question. We know that it takes TREMENDOUS chakra and concentration from Kakashi and after 4 Raikiri and fighting with the Sharingan... he prolly couldn't use it more than ONCE at best... and if he were to miss it'd be lights out for all of them, since he's the only 1 strong enough to take Hidan an Kakuza (in particular the 4 elementals). So I think they either manage to seriously trap all 4 elementals in a small area with enough time to allow the Mangekyou void jutsu... or they take out the hearts one by one with different jutsus...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 13, 2006, 02:54:14 PM
has ino done anyhting thus far?

we maybe forgetting her as an asset
in fact as far as i can remember, she hasnt even faced them as yet

so she may use her tensen and conduct one or the other or something

or maybe a higher level tensen, like how shika and chouji level up
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on December 13, 2006, 03:31:17 PM
some sort of spirit shadow puppeteer? steups
might hadda call in sakura de puppet slayer (lawl lol lawl)
LMAO, fuh real @ puppet slayer... being a former puppet herself and her master being dead, now she is just Sakura the Puparian... great chp and totally expected that Kakuza not dead yet. I don't think he has to kill all 4 to kill kakuza, but rather 1 of the 4 took the damage from Raikiri and so in effect Kakashi didn't get Kakuza himself. I guess we'll see some more good action followed by a dramatic ending... perhaps a cooperative effort by the 3 chunin to slow or imobilize the two members to the point where Kakashi can focus his Mangekyou Sharingan and blink them out of existence. Or at least the whole of Kakuza and all save the head of Hidan. Cause after all they need to interrogate that head!

(didnt read the spoilers) LOL @ interrogating that head!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 14, 2006, 10:20:38 AM
Raw is out and so are translations, Shika getting on bad again, showing real tatics... de man capture Hidan IN kagmane by throwing a punch up in de man face oui!!! as for the rest... well apparently Ino wil be switching bodies with Hidan to take him out of the equation and Choji and Kakashi going after Kakuza and his band on misfit elemental pokemon...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on December 14, 2006, 10:39:43 AM
LOL

boar, horse, tiger, rat, hare, bird, dragon - Pelt my ninja pokeball no jutsu!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 14, 2006, 03:34:54 PM
where you all get your manga so early?  the sites i use still don't have 335 up.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 14, 2006, 03:36:57 PM
where you all get your manga so early?  the sites i use still don't have 335 up.
n00b LMAO
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on December 14, 2006, 04:56:36 PM
where you all get your manga so early?  the sites i use still don't have 335 up.
IRC
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 14, 2006, 05:00:17 PM
had to be trini yes steups
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 15, 2006, 01:51:35 PM
just wanna touch on a point about shika

honestly, really, how is it possible for one man to be so dread?? like seriously omfg
that was de height of chain up hidan fall for lawll

i wonder if itachi ever came across someone from the nara clan.
if itachi knows their stratergies and their jutsus, that would be forked up.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 15, 2006, 08:13:05 PM
  Shika is cool but he needs to improve his ninja skills . Anyone else in the akatsuki would have ripped out his guts already , and he would be dead if Kakashi wasn't there to block that jutsu.
       You could compare him to an intel hero in dota with lots of disables . With a strength hero helping him , he could rip up a whole side, but by himself he's not much of a threat.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on December 15, 2006, 09:00:14 PM
ahhhh yes

what would GATT be if references to BOTH Naruto and DotA weren't mentioned in the same thread? ^_^
lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 15, 2006, 09:56:58 PM
ahhhh yes

what would GATT be if references to BOTH Naruto and DotA weren't mentioned in the same thread? ^_^
lol
  Not a gamer forum : P
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on December 15, 2006, 11:07:46 PM
LOL, so true... (dare i say it, oh what the hey)

Believe It!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on December 16, 2006, 08:46:16 AM
hmm stil can't see ino being very useful, but she hadda play some part after 3 and a half years of doing who know what...some fool say she do a new move by possessin an ANIMAL instead of a person..anyway
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on December 16, 2006, 10:52:04 AM
hmm stil can't see ino being very useful, but she hadda play some part after 3 and a half years of doing who know what...some fool say she do a new move by possessin an ANIMAL instead of a person..anyway
LOL.
But how come she eh buss down the mind Confusion Jutsu she fadda did use when the sound and sand had attacked Konoha?

It was hinted at in the chapter where Asuma was dying, that she had some sort of medical jutsu training (as she said her medical jutsu wasn't good enough to help as too many vital points had been hit) and asuma told her not to lose to sakura in love as well as in being a medical ninja.
So leh we see what gonna happen...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on December 17, 2006, 02:12:32 PM
hmm stil can't see ino being very useful, but she hadda play some part after 3 and a half years of doing who know what...some fool say she do a new move by possessin an ANIMAL instead of a person..anyway
LOL.
But how come she eh buss down the mind Confusion Jutsu she fadda did use when the sound and sand had attacked Konoha?

It was hinted at in the chapter where Asuma was dying, that she had some sort of medical jutsu training (as she said her medical jutsu wasn't good enough to help as too many vital points had been hit) and asuma told her not to lose to sakura in love as well as in being a medical ninja.
So leh we see what gonna happen...

*ooooohh*...lol so mysterious..the only thing Asuma mebbe drop hint to say run dong sasuke before sakura...and yeah she probably eh ready for dat level of justu yet...supposedly she 'dreader' (used very loosely here) than sakura, but without that strength and pink hair she really ent to special...either
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on December 20, 2006, 11:31:05 AM
336.....Shika is an effing boss!!!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 22, 2006, 04:56:37 PM
SHIKA FTW!!

 but that not gonna beat them , i'm 100% sure it'll end with naruto blowing them away with his new jutsu.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on December 24, 2006, 10:16:27 AM
2 down, 3 more to go..any idea which one it was that took the stab??
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on December 24, 2006, 11:11:08 AM
leh we hope it was the wind
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 28, 2006, 08:30:29 AM
 I think Kakashi could definately be the next hokage , he already has hokage level jutsu . He knows over 1000 jutsus and has proven that he can fight toe to toe with someone who HAS survived a hokage . Yea he did get real beat up , but i think it was a 1 on 1 fight , and he didn't have to waste chakra protecting Ino and Chouji, he might have been able to win , if he could squueze out a 5th chidori to kill all his hearts , or buss out mangekyou , he could have handled the akatsuki fella, probably dodging all those sick attacks instead of blocking them.
     He has been trained by the 4th , and is a great teacher as he figured out the best way to train naruto . And lets not forget Sharingan:  he can analyze enemy jutsu even if he can't copy it  and find its weakness. Plus he has mangekyou sharingan to stand against the toughest foes , like Itachi ( considering he got support in case he ran out of chakra) , and knows sealing jutsu to handle cursed seals , and maybe even bijuu?
   And i don't think there are any other jounin on his level of skill anyway . If Gai could release a few gates , he could probably beat kakashi, but he doesn't know as many jutsu , and that i think is  a major requirement for bieng a hokage i think .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 28, 2006, 08:39:01 AM
Well I don't completely agree with everything you said. Yes he is a genius, yes he has a crapload of jutsus in the bad, yes he was trained by the 4th and is a decent enough teacher himself. But... I not sure I would say he's the most skilled Jounin (special) and in a fight against Guy, well we know they face off regularly and up to before the time skip, they were pretty even. It's prolly worth mentioning that guy prolly is the best taijutsu user in Konoha, and perhaps kakashi is the best ninjutsu user in the village. But then for that matter, Kurenai is prolly the best genjutsu user... so without being the best of at least 2 or more jutsu types, I think its a little stretched to say kakashi is the best. He definitely would be a prime candidate but I am really curious as to the outcome of an all out battle with Guy who would win. Sharingan is great IF you're fast enough to dodge the attacks EVEN if you see it coming, Lee demonstrated that the first time he and sasuke fought and even Itachi said not to underestimate Guy and that was after wtfpwning kakashi. So perhaps we'll be treated to another rock paper siccors match and see what the current score is with those 2.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on December 28, 2006, 09:07:17 AM
IMHO:

i dont think kakashi could beat gai nor gai beat kakashi, both are equally devastating in their own right, gai would have to use his gates to keep up with the uber jutsu kakashi could put down, and this will deteriorate his body, kakashi would have to use up chakra, leaving him jutsu-less if the fight is long, and it will be.

meaning that both will be crippled to an extent, it would prob have an out come like the sasuke/naruto battle, one prevailing over the other by a hair.

If you were to measure them as ninja they are equal.

Gai might not beat kakashi if they went all out (they are of the same village so would have not used any killing jutsu against each other during training), after all kakashi is a genius and expert analyzer, and although if gai could release a few gates to do some damage, unlike kakashi he wouldn't last long, after the gates start to take their toll, is small thing for kakashi to move in for the kill.
And of all people i doubt that Kakashi would underestimate gai, he would have probably though of a way to beat his super speed by the time the fight start, or a way to avoid his attacks, after all the sharingan can follow the movements the best out of all abilities.
(but it cant see behind, which gai would have already figured out, as well as kakashi, leaving gai with the choice of frontal or rear attacks, and both will be equally dangerous, however at least a chance exist for the rear to succeed)

why i say gai can't beat him, is that he prob can use his kage bunshin far more effectively than naruto, and can prob come up with a a way to disable gai and use the chidori from a bunshin or another similar high damage technique.
Kakashi's only flaw is his chakra level being low, but he like shika, the kight on the battle field.

Kakashi ent no uber man, he just uber at ninjitsu, and gai know this and wouldn't get to confident with he speed (as lee sometimes gets), as well as we haven't seen the true speed of gai yet, he as fast a lee is without his weights on, and that is when he have HIS weights on! So this gai (hehehe) prob uber fast.

PLUS gai has mastered ALL types of konoha (and prob foreign) taijutsu, and it is crazy to think that he don't have a signature move like kakashi have chidori, ah mean, the guy had to have come up with something during training...

and keep in mind, orichimaru had said that itachi stronger than him, and yet itachi go say to watch out for gai?
Come nah man that is a BIG up of BIG ups!!!

itachi>orichimaru>kakashi

itachi ? gai

that is crazy :huh:, aye ah cyar take this kinda ah thinking ah going :huh:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 28, 2006, 10:02:03 AM
hmm well guy does have soem signature moves, he has the stronger konoha senpuu and he has that peacock thing he does when he opens the gates and fires a thousand punches at the person at super mega high level like he did to shark face dude's clone thingy.

Um itachi= > all except prob leader of akatsuki.

Gai is dangerous to any foe and really dangerous to non expert sharingan users, but itachi is the best of the best of the best sir!

member what old lady sand said, 1v1 ALWAYS run against an expert sharingan user lol.
Itachi so flikkin bad it really not even funny yes.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 28, 2006, 10:12:18 AM
 Kakashi surely isn't the strongest ninja in the village , Jiraiya and very soon Naruto will be able to beat him. 
   
But bieng hokage is not only about bieng strong, it also involves wisdom. Gai sure as hell is strong , but imo  isn't as good a tactical thinker as Kakashi , and he  is too much of an optimist to be hokage i think. As we'v seen , he let Lee go all out in a fight that nearly killed him because he had too much blind faith . Like his father , Kakashi understand that lives are worth more than honour and would never have allowed that to happen if Lee was his student.
     
 Also , a hokage wouldn't have to be able to beat his opponent 1 on 1 , they will summon creatures to help them and usually be accompanied by ANBU .  Kakashi is also one of the few with a summoning technique , though dogs not taking down a giant frog or snake , they would help alot in conventional ninja battle .
     
Kakashi has proven he  is a great defensive fighter , his chakra levels are not ''low'' . Its just that his killer jutsu involving using Sharigan wear him out  very fast.  He would have no trouble pelting rasengan, Futon , Katon and Suiton jutsu whole day probably  , but his strategy is to take out the strong opponents FAST , hence chidori and MS . If them akatsuki men weren't immortal ,  both would be dead already .
   
 Granny Tsunadae runs out of chakra herself too  if you remember , against a fully powered Orochi  without help she would surely loose , remember , if that battle with orochi went on long enough , they would have caught her almost defenceless, she couldn't even maintain her Henge . She isn't as strong as jiraiya , but has alot more sense than anyone who spends their life writing porno novels.
   
 It would be like Shikamaru over Naruto for hokage , Naruto is stronger but Shika wins all his battles on intelligence alone...  the man keeps trapping S class criminals with the SAME jutsus over and over, he real hot.


lol i saw on gayelle that the local  crapaud toxic and are known to eat  venomous snakes  .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 28, 2006, 10:19:13 AM
oh gosh lets not even involve shika

we not really worthy of calling dat man name in we mout yes lol dat man just over bad.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 28, 2006, 10:58:02 AM
Imagine this team: Kakashi (as sensei), Shikamaru, Shino, Neji
Tell me that is not Uber pwnage....
Intelligence, jutsus, anti-chakra, ranged vision with close range speciality. The only other man we coulda throw in there to make it even more uber would be sasuke, but he is effectively a missing nin now so ah well. I have a question though... who would win in a fight now (post time skip) Sasuke or Neji??? 0_o
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 28, 2006, 11:03:34 AM
hmm that was real hard to call before and now it like mega insanely hard to call so as much of a sasuke fan i am, i cant make that call.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 28, 2006, 11:28:47 AM
It would make for an EPIC battle though... could you imagine the utter uberness of that battle? Sharingan AND Byakugan sensing motion at close range (save Byakugan sensing in 360 span), sharingan sensing next move, elemental jutsu vs. Chakra shielding, km range vision vs. line of site... it would be EPIC I tell you... much more exciting honestly than a Naruto vs. Sasuke round 2... we're talking about 2 advanced bloodlines, 2 Jounin rank nin (well as best I figure), 2 nin with exceptional intelligence in battle, 2 nin taught by Uber level sensei (granted Oro is a boss, but the Hyuga head EH no small fry, not to mention the wealth of knowledge of the clan I sure he has studied). Chakra manipulation to the highest heights... *sighs* too bad we'll prolly never see this fight... ah shucks...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on December 28, 2006, 12:37:14 PM
i find we using the word uber and it's relative suffixes and prefixes to much!:D

but as for the neji vs. sasuke...that is an hard one, we eh even see neji full potential in the post naruto vs sasuke arcs, 'cause if that bastard get some more jutsus under he blet he good, prob use something like granny used on kabuto for disabling an opponent, i mean the guy can control chakra release through out he whole body learning a medical jutsu or two shouldn't be hard, and if he increased his speed even a little, tapping out the points @ the beginning of a battle would be (trying to resist X0) uber (damn.) cheapness.

lol i saw on gayelle that the local  crapaud toxic and are known to eat  venomous snakes  .

:huh: gama-chan could eat snake?

btw where that come from??? :huh:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 28, 2006, 01:39:25 PM
 Gamabunta could , they say it would eat anything that could fit in the mouth . : P

  A Hyuuga vs Uchiha battle would be epic , Jounin Neji might be the only one other than Sasuke/Naruto/Kakashi/Gai who could stand up to Itachi :  Byakugan sees through all genjutsu , so Tsukuyomi may not have any effect on him , his 360 degree vision and ultimate defence would force itachi to buss out some uber jutsu to beat him .
     
Plus , if Neji could score a hit or two , itachi may be in trouble , no chakra .  The other part of the story is : THIS IS MC ITACHI! He will be very hard to deal with , too fast , too strong for half Neji moves to hit or do much damage . Plus... What if Itachi could copy Neji's moves? Sharingan can see the basic chakra structure of a body , it may be enough to use jyuuken . 
    And not counting Mangekyou sharigan , That Amaterasu black fire burns through EVERYTHING , it may not be possible to block it , plus he has a 3rd jutsu to use  that we haven't seen yet.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 28, 2006, 02:49:50 PM
his third justsu i heard from a reliable source. is a summoning technique

from a rough japanese translation of the summons name, it seems to be something named Aizen... >.> soo... <.< yeah...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 28, 2006, 03:20:24 PM
Aizen you say.... so de last technique he summoning a bad @$$ ex-shinigami?? 0_o
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 28, 2006, 03:21:49 PM
and i heard aizen's bankai is to slap you around with his  dinosaur like mangina
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on December 28, 2006, 04:08:17 PM
he gonnan summon ah sword an shout bankai....ah mean iz probably ah massive dinasour
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on December 28, 2006, 07:30:34 PM
BANKAI-NO-JUTSU!!!! :huh:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 28, 2006, 07:53:07 PM
 According to my theory , it will be called Susanoo .  Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu belong to a trinity of japenese gods of which susanoo is the third.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susano-O

Quote
Susanoo, (Japanese: 須佐之男命, Susano'o-no-mikoto; also romanized as Susano-o, Susa-no-o, and Susanowo) in Shinto is the god of the sea and storms.


Susano'o is the brother of Amaterasu, the goddess of the sun, and of Tsukuyomi, the god of the moon. All three were spawned from Izanagi, when he washed his face clean of the pollutants of Yomi, the underworld. Amaterasu was born when Izanagi washed out his left eye, Tsukuyomi was born from the washing of the right eye, and Susano'o from the washing of the nose.


   'God of Sea and storms' Means anything from a water jutsu , lightning , wind , or a combination of any two or all three.   Heck it may be a summoning of something destructive if it is like crixx says , a summon .
    Supposedly it may also be a Taijutsu , going with the trinity of Genjutsu , Ninjutsu , Taijutsu . Mangekyou Sharingan  so far has been a Genjutsu and extremely damaging Ninjutsu for both Kakashi and Itachi.

 
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on December 28, 2006, 08:08:59 PM
I think its a summoning ...maybe he cud summon sum kind of weapon....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 02, 2007, 07:33:37 AM
Hmm interesting ideas... (Bankai-no-jutsu lol). It may be a taijutsu which would fit nicely with my idea on that matter, or a summon that reinforces taijutsu..kinda like the monkey king enmar, since its transforms into a weapon with which you perform combat aka taijutsu. Time will tell perhaps (if kishi is so inclined). I don't believe there is a chp this week as the last 2 were double chaps... or something to that effect. So we look forward to more fighting in the next chp and a conclusion prolly bout 3-5 chps down the road.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on January 03, 2007, 08:12:10 PM
Fuuton rasengan?? dats d best name they could have come up with?? I was willing to bet my wii (ah lie tho) that he woulda call it hurricane...lol they do something out of xiaolin showdown there dred, with the water-tornado thing lol look better here tho...LMAO anyone see the super-saiyan-sasuke spoof?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on January 03, 2007, 09:27:21 PM
allyuh i aint watch d anime in a while...wah really goin on ....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 04, 2007, 08:09:42 AM
Supposedly the fillers end on the week of the 15th. Shoenjump isn't putting out manga until then too, so it seems to be in line. Whether we'll get to see the start of Kakashi Gaiden, or if they'll even show it I don't know. But I will peform level cuss-no-jutsu if they don't EVEN if the fillers end.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on January 04, 2007, 10:13:56 AM
yeah, after a year of fillers, the OWEEEEE USS!! a god damned look at the flikkin fourth in action!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on January 04, 2007, 01:00:07 PM
OK OK I need to get back on track with Naruto so i will ask again WILL SOMEONE P-L-E-A-S-E link up a bredren
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 04, 2007, 01:04:09 PM
You can get them at: www.trinitaku.com and for avi versions www.anime-eden.com Either site you will need to register. Taku has the best rmvb (smaller size) and eden has the full size.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on January 04, 2007, 02:05:40 PM
...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on January 04, 2007, 03:53:31 PM
i does jus teif from youtube.......a whole episode does b 44megs
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 05, 2007, 07:45:38 AM
And what quality EK? and you shouldn't be selling yuhself out like that...tiefing.. feh.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on January 05, 2007, 11:38:12 AM
decent quality

(http://pics-79.hi5.com/userpics/679/287/287235679.img.jpg)

das a snapshot from VLC player
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on January 05, 2007, 12:02:53 PM
vlc= plays anythin

i sure you could turn a text file into a movie with vlc

fuss it bad
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on January 05, 2007, 12:25:18 PM
LOL yeh
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on January 05, 2007, 01:30:35 PM
i understand...but i jus too impatient to wait for AVI downloads to finish
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 05, 2007, 01:33:10 PM
realitylapse.com also has em and as I said rmvb on trinitaku.com. Otherwise torrents will have the avi versions before its uploaded to utube or just as quickly, so I don't see ur problem. Honestly I rather wait an extra day to get a good quality than take it now at low quality, save for manga. But thats different. Watching low quality NAruto is 1 thing, watching LOW QUALITY FILLERS... you'd need lix for dat.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on January 05, 2007, 01:48:39 PM
i doh watch fillers anymore
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on January 05, 2007, 01:54:01 PM
lol @ the self torture of low quality fillers

aahaha hoss you could give me like 50 dollars a week to kick yu in yur stones for 22 minutes instead of watching lq fillers for 22 minutes
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 05, 2007, 02:01:40 PM
lol @ the self torture of low quality fillers

aahaha hoss you could give me like 50 dollars a week to kick yu in yur stones for 22 minutes instead of watching lq fillers for 22 minutes

Good lord.... I doh even want to know how you work out that price tag... as if the service wasn't bad enough already :p
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on January 05, 2007, 02:54:06 PM
oooOk then
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on January 05, 2007, 11:11:58 PM
  If i ever get money or power.. i'll make peopel do a study to prove bad entertainment makes you stupider.... And put a disclaimer before said entertainment '' You view this at your own risk , May cause reduction in brain function, irrationality, illogical behaviour and general stupidity'' .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on January 06, 2007, 06:36:21 AM
LOL

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on January 06, 2007, 07:36:31 PM
lol @ the self torture of low quality fillers

aahaha hoss you could give me like 50 dollars a week to kick yu in yur stones for 22 minutes instead of watching lq fillers for 22 minutes

Aye Crixx, yuh does dos ..ahem... 'hired beatings'???

I feel ah could use your services this year. what's de minute rate?

On topic though, I really cyah take on dem fillers again...... at least Bleach made a whole contiguous storyline... but eee-gad! Naruto!...eww! I've had it!! Gaiden IWMC!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on January 06, 2007, 11:57:23 PM
mee no complain bout bleachy fillers....ive found another anime but too lazy to look for other episodes...the name is futari ecchi 4.................i doh kare



BTW...since ppl tellin meh ah shud start bak studyin i will so bye bye for now...I'll take a break from the studies wen the smallville/heroes/naruto start bak
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 23, 2007, 11:48:44 AM
You're asking impossible questions dude... come on seriously.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Netizen1 on January 23, 2007, 02:40:37 PM
question: since Naruto wil be starting back in just under a month can soem give me a general idea as to how many episodes are gonna be for the rescue Gaara story arc?

I just checked on www.tv.com

Episode 220
Setting Out
First Aired: Thursday February 8, 2007

"The time has finally come! Now that Jiraiya's returned, Naruto says his goodbyes and prepares to leave Konoha to begin his training."
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 23, 2007, 03:37:07 PM
Well its easy to see you don't read the manga, so I will explain why it is difficult. Shoen Jump Manga (Naruto, Bleach, D.Grayman) varies in terms of chp length. Sometimes the writers are gracious and give a few extra pages, sometimes they do stupid things like fill pages with colour artwork. Sometimes there are doublechps and sometimes chps that have little or no text associated thus they can be VERY short in anime terms. If I had to GUESSTIMATE i'd say MAYBE you get anywhere from 2-5 chps per episode. Sometimes more sometimes LESS. Thus there is no real way to determine how long they will drag out the manga. If the fillers were any indication of how they can DRAG out something meaningless, then they could very well take 1 chp and stretch it to last most of an episode, or conversely they could breeze through it and rush into the hurricane chronicles part (aka after the time skip). Thus I said its impossible. Only kishi knows how long he wants to drag it out. God willing they WON'T add TOO much additional content to the anime that doesn't appear in teh manga to make up time... however this is expected.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on January 23, 2007, 09:38:14 PM
there is coloured manga as well

better art and action than marvel or even image and top cow comics
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 23, 2007, 11:44:22 PM
Yeah alot of the Naruto manga has been fully coloured, check out mangahelpers.com for different manga included full coloured versions.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on January 25, 2007, 04:47:51 PM
     pretty damn good , at that level its hard to say if art is 'better' ,it depends on what style you like best . Naruto looks better in colour than  most but some people prefer more realistic artwork .  supposedly it should restart in 'Spring in japan... not sure when that is , or if that means Kakashi Gaiden or the regular episodes.
      I'm expecting 2-3 episodes for the kakashi gaiden at least, doubt they'll skip it as its damn freaking good and part of the storyline thats critical : Seeing how kakashi got his sharingan and seeing Yondaime in action ( naruto daddy or naruto himself in   a past life)  to hint at his possible parentage of naruto.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on January 26, 2007, 12:13:04 AM
http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?i...39946503ba.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=naru10su.jpg

339 should pwn
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 26, 2007, 08:11:03 AM
Hmm I clicked on those links and nothing dude....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on January 26, 2007, 02:34:05 PM
339 bad! Naruto finally grew up, sasuke beware .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 26, 2007, 02:51:42 PM
It's a bit too early to be saying sasuke beware. In the least he is finally using proper tatics and factoring in strategy using his bushins as recon. As for the Wind Shiruken... can anyone spell distructo disc... I know kishi is a fan of DB but this is a bit much...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on January 26, 2007, 07:55:51 PM
they showed a flashback of the 4th hokage , and we can see he is no longer short of jutsu  , he can now use rasengan as an all purpose weapon...  As a shuriken  to cut , as an explosive / blast of wind chakra , Combine it with Yamamoto's /Kakashi's water (or if he learns a water rasengan too himself) and he has an effective way to deal with sasuke.
     And combined with his clones , he's an army unto himself finally..... Imagine the combinations , A wind rasengan + Water rasengan to make ice ? Wind + fire to bun up the place?
    He's not gonna be beating sasuke anytine soon , no , but he's a giant leap closer to it .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on January 26, 2007, 08:17:55 PM
they showed a flashback of what kakashi saw when he watched naruto, that was the fourth. Kishi is hinting at it more and more.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 28, 2007, 09:58:16 PM
I wait for the day when the revelation that Naruto IS the 4th is revealed and we can all say hey look at that :p
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 02, 2007, 12:13:45 PM
I wait for the day when the revelation that Naruto IS the 4th is revealed and we can all say hey look at that :p


wouldn't that be like a big big big big dissappointment? big
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on February 03, 2007, 11:49:24 AM
I wait for the day when the revelation that Naruto IS the 4th is revealed and we can all say hey look at that :p


wouldn't that be like a big big big big dissappointment? big

Agreed! Big disappointment that
btw, Naruto-wii's box art and several screens  have been released, and so far the confirmed characters are post time-skip, and includes deidara
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 03, 2007, 11:55:48 AM
I don't see how it'd be a big dissapointment.. but whaev.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 03, 2007, 12:50:06 PM
Cause i mean the 4th is dead.....and for naruto whose life we've been following for soo long to jus up and be the 4th........I would be llike so wait that is all?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on February 03, 2007, 04:34:15 PM
wait...the hair didn't tip anyone off?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Kenji on February 03, 2007, 05:43:15 PM
Naruto is naruto, the 4th son, the 4th himself, it just ain't matter; he still our're naruto.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on February 07, 2007, 07:08:20 AM
*spoilers for chapter 341*



http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4430/1170775807548zi3ew5.jpg


Narut-owned.


Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 07, 2007, 08:10:33 AM
Hmm I hope its not a fake. There are some excellent fakes out there... Either way i'd like to see the Jutsu that did that since this would be the 2nd time we see this level of damage (1st being from the training).
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on February 08, 2007, 10:37:15 PM
OMG they should have put "akatsuki raped" at the end instead of "akatsuki failed". Hands up if u did want to slap ino for not figurin out what naruto do. *waves madly*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on February 08, 2007, 11:08:49 PM
its not a fake
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rassmatic on February 10, 2007, 02:24:46 PM
Rejoice People!!!! Naruto fillers apparently end at episode 220!!!! he's left the village with Jiraiya and returns after 2 and a half years, lookin all tall and stuff. Naruto Shippuuden is here!!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on February 10, 2007, 03:36:31 PM
last ep was d las filler?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rassmatic on February 10, 2007, 04:04:26 PM
yep :) there's a 1 hour special next week.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on February 10, 2007, 05:05:30 PM
thats gr8 news...I can finally start bak watchin naruto
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 10, 2007, 06:39:19 PM
Confimed , naruto fillers ending! check the youtube preview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me297t-SG-I
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 10, 2007, 07:07:14 PM
BWDMC @ NO KAKASHI GAIDEN!!!!! the lil preview from the last eps was post time skip naruto... WHERE OBITO? WHERE THE 4TH? WHERE KAKASHI???? WTMC!!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on February 10, 2007, 09:15:10 PM
1 More thing that makes u go...WDMC
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on February 10, 2007, 11:01:29 PM
um why all the fuss about next weeks episode not being kakashi gaiden, the new non filler episode titles have been out for a least a month, why be sour now :P

still lol @ fillers end confirmed...

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Kenji on February 11, 2007, 12:24:54 PM
i think i'm.....going to cry, lol < or maybe its because i'm sick??>
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on February 11, 2007, 01:07:38 PM
its not gonna be kakashi gaiden, fanboys would cream themselves if ti were.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on February 11, 2007, 07:50:40 PM
Umm..ew
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 11, 2007, 07:53:53 PM
 its possible there is no kakashi gaiden at all   : http://www.tv.com/naruto/show/18558/episode_listings.html?season=10&tag=nav_bar;10 

episode list says it goes straight into the new akatsuki /sasuke arc.... : ( . Hopefully they'll  still make it and hold it for a later date.  Or maybe make a Naruto movie based on it... You know how SICK that would be ? A movie that isn't based on a filler story?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on February 12, 2007, 12:01:20 AM
or a mini filler arc should their be need for one
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Netizen1 on February 12, 2007, 10:24:58 AM
or a mini filler arc should their be need for one

That would be a best idea right there!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 15, 2007, 11:14:32 PM
wow lolzzorrr

shenju sent me this bit of info

go to youtube and type in this

naruto: the abridged series

copy paste if you must lawlll

watch from episode 1,hilarriousss
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: disciple on February 16, 2007, 04:16:04 PM
naruto shippuuden 001-002 immc!!!!

*wipes tears of joy from eye, and snat bubble from nose*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on February 16, 2007, 10:04:28 PM
fuh true

i sit down and start to watch and i was like...wey...is like the manga...only in color and moving and i dont have to imagine as much :D
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on February 17, 2007, 01:36:26 PM
yh boi................It rel exciting
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on February 17, 2007, 02:18:41 PM
on a side note, anyone here uses azureus/bit tornado? bit tornado like it eh pickin up mih new internet connection,
and azureus like it eh findin seeds....which is weird
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on February 17, 2007, 02:51:33 PM
get BITCOMET

that works good wit me
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on February 17, 2007, 08:26:37 PM
thx will try
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on February 17, 2007, 09:03:25 PM
you guys do realize that theres a shippuden thread for shippuden talk..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on February 18, 2007, 04:34:46 PM
you guys do realize that theres a shippuden thread for shippuden talk..
Oh sorry I thought this was the GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE Naruto thread lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: disciple on February 18, 2007, 08:51:17 PM
hmm . use utorrent.. lightweight, efficient.. good stuff
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 18, 2007, 09:59:05 PM
i use bit torrent solely.

works great for me

maybe upgrade to newest torrent  then try BT again
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on February 18, 2007, 10:15:05 PM
you guys do realize that theres a shippuden thread for shippuden talk..
Oh sorry I thought this was the GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE Naruto thread lol


why use a scatter approach when you can go specifically at what you want?
lol sorry just tryin to be difficult

azureus is workin fine now, thanks. Just needed to b patient
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 02, 2007, 03:42:27 PM
Here's a REALLY LOW QUALITY Raw of Chp 344... all I can say is..bye bye Orochomaru... you were a decent villain and you will be missed...
http://rapidshare.com/files/19071313/NARUTO_-_344_LQ.zip.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/19071313/NARUTO_-_344_LQ.zip.html)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on March 02, 2007, 09:09:35 PM
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/344mq.msnw 334 translated

 He dead?  You sure?  I always thought he would be the last big villain  i mean... Who could be more evil than a snake bodied child molester? Won't kabuto come and try save him?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on March 02, 2007, 09:14:35 PM
well id love to see the death sequence

it will def make sasuke stronger, if hes willing to kill oro

but i dont oro can die in any case

that whole soul anchored to the earth thing

but hes seriously out of luck for a body now

only way he can come back is if kabuto stays on his side and does de whole rez jutsu thing in another 3 years
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on March 16, 2007, 10:41:46 PM
--minor spoiler warning--

well oro get rape, naruto jutsu is mad, but will soon be under the classification of dual fang destroyer and primary lotus, apparetly is a double edged sword.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on March 17, 2007, 10:37:59 AM
************SPOILER**************

 Does anyone agree with me on this? I think BOTH Sasuke and orochimaru are alive in the same body, but Sasuke consumed him and sealed him up with the sharingan making him the more dominant one. I think eventually Oro will find some way to become a threat again , but not till after this up coming arc where Sasuke attempts to hunt down Itachi .
   Manga translations aren't too clear .

3 akatsuki down , they'll be looking for new members... What if Sasuke takes down Itachi , will they recruit him? Isn't one of his goals also the revival of his clan and won't that need a woman?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on March 17, 2007, 11:10:17 AM
that make sense, he might re-surface when sasuke get to old to keep him in check...

recruit sasuke? sasuke have a SERIOUS supiriority complex right now he might observe them just for the sake of killing them to assert his own power, i mean look how he tie up oro...

and one more thing, who he free dred?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on March 17, 2007, 11:12:42 AM
SPOILER!


YES!! I was thinkin d same thing!! it seems to be that the soul transfer when interrupted by the sharingan put Sasuke in control of orochimaru's alternate dimension! At first i thought that Sasuke reversd the soul transfer and took over orochimaru's body instead, but super sharingan pwnage made that seem less than likely
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on March 17, 2007, 05:51:37 PM
*Spoiler*








Sasuke = B@D@$$!!!!!!!!! Orochi = DEAD!!! Hell Yeah goin gr8!!! but since sasuke, as he put,"take over", doesnt dat mean dat sasuke now has all orochi's abilities?? such as the ability to summon the snake etc?? cuz wen orochi goes into a new vessel, he takes his abilities and techniques with him doesnt he?? i gonna stop reading d manga now.......d anime not as good knowing wat gonna happen......
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 19, 2007, 09:45:02 AM
I was wondering that myself... about Sasuke knowing all of Oro's jutsu... that would make Sasuke unstoppable more or less... well at least against anyone who's not a Sharingan Mangekyou user or otherwise Kage level... But I have to comment.. whilst Naruto's jutsu is badd@$$ and everything... he's in a RUT... I mean come on... the damn anime name is NARUTO.. NOT SASUKE... this is almost deserving of reviving the thread with that title... the way Kishi has been bigging up the sharingan for SOME TIME NOW is RIDICULOUS... I mean it's almost as if there's NOTHING the sharingan can't do... I eh even know how naurto gonna improve to reach sasuke level now... I did read a fake spoiler with an interesting concept though... if Naruto makes MASS kages (as he ALWAYS does... boring... but anyways) and has each of them train with a different squad + have them research new jutsu + study (yeah STUDY as in read books and learn battle tactics etc) + Learning to control Kyubi @ 3+ tails + better summoning use + you get the idea... its ridiculous...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on March 19, 2007, 06:58:17 PM
it start to threaten to take the anime to DBZ level nonsense...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on March 19, 2007, 08:27:32 PM
Wayyy thats a reeaalll high level way of trainin,  but he might go into a coma from dat kinda experience-absorption lol. Let's also not forget that he (I so very hope) was trainin with Jiraiya. Is not like he almost kill a sannin just for so, even if he had buss 4-TK one time. He must have been in a seriously half dead state to reach that point eh? (Not forgettin the immeadiate realease of the 4 tails when orochimaru appeared on the bridge) Oh, and isn't there the risk that if the clone goes into a mission that it could get hit and poof?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on March 19, 2007, 08:39:51 PM
i dont think he was talking bout mission level training more like what he did with asuma
i guess we seeing why the kage bunshin was forbidden to being with, this on ah man like sasuke would be insane
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 20, 2007, 08:39:09 AM
Yuh know a man make a good point there... if sasuke uses the lvl2 curse seal to boost his chakra then made mass kagebushins... he could learn even faster... GG... thats a scary thought... I mean I sure Naruto can make more bushins... but we talking cursed lvl2 SHARINGAN using clones... thats' INSANE...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on March 20, 2007, 12:33:23 PM
i am sooo glad i've started to read the manga...cause those last few post would have burned my anime watching soul


**************SPOILER***************************

So..michea....oro-sama gone through? for real i mean i almost flip my lid when i saw sasuke attack him.......lol "no young boy body for yuh" anyone think oro might find his way out of sasuke.....if so how?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 20, 2007, 02:36:54 PM
I think the chain of thought is more along the lines of hollow-ichigo... so maybe we'll see oro make a guest appearence when Sasuke is at his wits end... cause as was stated... not killed but TAKEN over Oro...of course I waiting to see him buss down all dem jutsu that Oro know that we never saw....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on March 20, 2007, 04:39:19 PM
Ok so i guess I'll ask

How bad must naruto be to beat him now? can any one think of the level naruto would have to be......0_0
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on March 20, 2007, 06:09:39 PM
Kishimoto like he play MGS
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 21, 2007, 09:33:10 AM
Ok so i guess I'll ask

How bad must naruto be to beat him now? can any one think of the level naruto would have to be......0_0
In 1 word... impossible... the difference in strength is astronomical atm... Naruto would have to train with all the nin in Konoha and the hidden sand village for like months 18hrs a day... we've yet to see if Sasuke has gained the jutsus of Oro... in which case... the # of jutsu known to sasuke would be ridiculous.... add to that the sharingan, the cursed seal, and his advanced nature and shape manipulation abilities... well... yeah like I said MASS MASS MASS kage bushins training with EVERYONE+DOG for a few months... Naruto would have NO life or rest... and thats JUST to catch up...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on March 21, 2007, 02:19:40 PM
i havent read the manga for a while but ent naruto hav a "secret" move dat jiyaria* tell him not to use.....

BTW how d training wit d wood fella goin...he complete rasengan yet??
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on March 21, 2007, 03:06:17 PM
LOL training with the wood fella...

--small spoiler--
yeah he finish the jutsu but it is a forbidden class, damages naruto also, super bad jutsu though, it damages EVERY cell of the opponent...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on March 21, 2007, 03:14:42 PM
ok then.....d dude was wah...yamato ent??? i jus cudnt remember


allyuh it hav no episode 2mr rite???
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on March 21, 2007, 05:32:55 PM
LOL training with the wood fella...

--small spoiler--
yeah he finish the jutsu but it is a forbidden class, damages naruto also, super bad jutsu though, it damages EVERY cell of the opponent...

he hasnt finished it yet

why yu trying to make him look good, when hes totally not!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on March 21, 2007, 08:53:23 PM
watch an see...one ah dese dayz allyuh go hear Naruto say BanKAi an mash een d whole scene...allyuh jaw go drop
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on March 21, 2007, 10:15:14 PM
lawl @ 'bankai' by Naruto...

I'd really like to see Naruto learn to use kuchiyose no jutstu to summon Kyuubi himself... just long enough tobriefly do Naruto's bidding and then return him to his prison again... THAT would be uber bad
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on March 22, 2007, 09:59:55 AM
thats never gonna happen....unfortunately....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 23, 2007, 01:06:33 PM
thats never gonna happen....unfortunately....
Hey yuh never know...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on March 23, 2007, 01:18:04 PM
O.o

if it could be done

it surely wouldnt be done by someone like naruto
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 23, 2007, 02:01:16 PM
O.o

if it could be done

it surely wouldnt be done by someone like naruto
Crixx you sasgay fanboy... I almost wondering if crixx not responsible for the gay sasuke on sai scene dat konohamaru put down in the latest chp.... 348...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on March 23, 2007, 06:19:28 PM
thats never gonna happen....unfortunately....
Hey yuh never know...

wudnt kyuubi kill him???
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on March 25, 2007, 04:34:15 PM
Ok i have never taken a serious interest in naruto and i am about to ask a question that may get me slaughtered in so many ways but i have to know.

Alot of my friends tell me if i like animes like Bleach, Death Note and Roruni Kenshin i should like naruto.......
Anyway i was basically nagged into downloading the first episodes of naruto ( yes i know im very very late ) and i gotta ask Whats so special about it?

Its very childish from what ive seen and the drawings are not as detailed as anime i usually watch. The animations look similar to that of inuyasha an anime i really dont like. The story seems interesting but it just doesnt get me hooked like other animes ive watched and isnt naruto supposed to be one of the best animes?

Anyway some of my friends tell me it gets better and mmore serious later on and some tell me its always gonna be just as childish so if i dont like it now i probably shouldnt bother.

What you guys think does it get serious and interesting enough to hook me like bleach death note and roruni kenshin or is it always gonna be to childish for my liking.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on March 25, 2007, 07:08:30 PM
*SHOCKED*....Lol no I agree, it actually starts off slow, but keep on watching, you won't regret it. As to being too childish...idk what to say w/out givin anything away except keep watching
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on March 26, 2007, 04:41:56 AM
*SHOCKED*....Lol no I agree, it actually starts off slow, but keep on watching, you won't regret it. As to being too childish...idk what to say w/out givin anything away except keep watching
aight cool i go watch a bit more and see how it gets maybe ill get hooked lol. maybe its just one of those things that takes a while to get u idk
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on March 26, 2007, 04:07:42 PM
 the anime esp english version might be childish and a good few episodes you'd want to skip over entirely ( all from 145 onward till Shippunden) but if you stick with the manga or just the jap episodes that do actually follow the storyline , its one of the best anime ever.
     The art style is good in its own way , you won't get as highly detailed drawing as some but the colour scheme together with the superb fighting make up for it
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on March 26, 2007, 06:19:09 PM
the anime esp english version might be childish and a good few episodes you'd want to skip over entirely ( all from 145 onward till Shippunden) but if you stick with the manga or just the jap episodes that do actually follow the storyline , its one of the best anime ever.
     The art style is good in its own way , you won't get as highly detailed drawing as some but the colour scheme together with the superb fighting make up for it
i watch japanese one with subtitles and why is everyone telling me stop watching from 145 there must be something important in there lol. episodes 4 and 5 were pretty interesting i have to say that it was very funny and had enough action all at the same time :). i dont download much because i download bleach and death note as well but i play alot of online games and i share a pc with my bro.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on March 26, 2007, 11:09:10 PM
There actually isnt, except for seeing the characters develop a little, or for some humor. Other than that, you've been given some good advice, except I'd say go to 151. If you really want to know bad enough to spoil it for yourself, some of the really good fights were in ****SPOILER!!!*****





Episodes
49-50
126-130
132-135
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on March 27, 2007, 05:46:58 AM
hehe i didnt read it i dont want to spoil it for myself xD but i just dont understand how people could tell me to skip just about 100 episodes of the series saying it was only fillers lol.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on March 27, 2007, 08:07:33 AM
hoss take we advice you will not regret it, these fillers were so bad, i sure you go rather watch something like thats so raven besides them
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 27, 2007, 08:29:47 AM
hoss take we advice you will not regret it, these fillers were so bad, i sure you go rather watch something like thats so raven besides them
Dread even that show is entertaining... you better off punching urself in the face than watching those Illers.... they were TRULY HORRIBLE... but as I have said for some time now, it does explain why Naruto sucks B@LLS now compared to sasuke...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on March 27, 2007, 09:10:54 AM
believe it!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on March 27, 2007, 11:18:27 AM
Ok it already start to get interesting dread 2 ninjas attack them and look like the kill kakashi look real mad. You know what very funny and men might fall of they chair hearing this xD . I now find how why all you call that points thing Chakra and why ranks are genin, jonin and kage :D dont kill me lol.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on March 27, 2007, 12:02:28 PM
yuh have me to thank for that :P
http://gatt.carigamers.com/index.php/topic,7960.msg124491.html#msg124491
speaking of which, welcome to jounin-hood, you will now be assigned a set of genin noobs to look after :P
which 2 elements yuh master yo?


---somewhat a spoiler---
LOL @ kill Kakashi...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on March 27, 2007, 06:26:29 PM
so now that you are that far in are pro- or con- sasuke?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on March 28, 2007, 07:14:39 AM
so now that you are that far in are pro- or con- sasuke?
rephrase that lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on March 28, 2007, 08:39:27 AM
he wha know if you for or against sasuke
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on March 28, 2007, 09:13:07 AM
hmm @ sasgay in 348
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on March 28, 2007, 11:12:29 AM
usually win someone says pro and con they mean advantage and disadvantage so that was a bit confusing Sasuke is cool but im still early in the show :P. I got to where kakashi used his sharingan and passed out.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 28, 2007, 12:53:24 PM
usually win someone says pro and con they mean advantage and disadvantage so that was a bit confusing Sasuke is cool but im still early in the show :P. I got to where kakashi used his sharingan and passed out.
You have very far to go young grasshopper...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on March 28, 2007, 03:03:29 PM
usually win someone says pro and con they mean advantage and disadvantage so that was a bit confusing Sasuke is cool but im still early in the show :P. I got to where kakashi used his sharingan and passed out.
You have very far to go young grasshopper...
i got alot of life left im only 18 :P
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 28, 2007, 04:05:42 PM
usually win someone says pro and con they mean advantage and disadvantage so that was a bit confusing Sasuke is cool but im still early in the show :P. I got to where kakashi used his sharingan and passed out.
You have very far to go young grasshopper...
i got alot of life left im only 18 :P
I wish you well in that endeavour, however never for once believe that age has anything to do with how much time you have on this earth :)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on March 28, 2007, 04:44:50 PM
lol....i watch from episode 1 to 138 in about  less dan 2 wks
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on March 28, 2007, 06:16:52 PM
LOL you use kage bunshin orr waht? flik I thought I was bad, Dred i do the same thing in 2005 up to 151
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 29, 2007, 08:56:42 AM
I remember about 3-4 yrs ago i watched like over 300 anime episodes in 2 weeks... I talkign 4 hrs sleep, watching for 18hrs straight for days... O_O
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on March 29, 2007, 09:54:07 PM
dude u doh like yuh eyes....i remember wen i used to take een 10hrs ah naruto stright to try to catch up wit my friends....my eyes used to bun like maadddd after
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on March 30, 2007, 02:04:58 PM
lol eye bun-plenty no jutsu
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on March 30, 2007, 11:27:17 PM
 Guys are better... Nah girls girls.... Girls are definately better...  wait.. no GUYS  ... Guys... or actually...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on March 31, 2007, 05:42:29 AM
Guys are better... Nah girls girls.... Girls are definately better...  wait.. no GUYS  ... Guys... or actually...
interesting.... well i like girls but i like being a guy and girls like guys so which is better.. AHA i have it *Cough who tha fu Chokes dies*

Anyway that haku dude in naruto is both i think lmao i thought he was a girl and naruto thought he was a girl too so wtf lol.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on March 31, 2007, 10:14:30 AM
 the latest character is a bisexual apparently... that was a quote from his first line . Sasuke seems very benevolent
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on March 31, 2007, 10:17:22 AM
hu allyuh talkin bout???
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on April 02, 2007, 02:10:12 PM
OMG this is by far one of the most interesting things i have ever seen in an anime the Chunin exam! teaching you how to cheat lmao when Sasuke used sharingan i was like WTF doh make joke yes. Naruto in class want to cry because he dont know one flippin answer.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on April 02, 2007, 03:06:29 PM
OMG this is by far one of the most interesting things i have ever seen in an anime the Chunin exam! teaching you how to cheat lmao when Sasuke used sharingan i was like WTF doh make joke yes. Naruto in class want to cry because he dont know one flippin answer.
Whoa... he's like really really really far back... thats a good thing oui...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on April 02, 2007, 03:47:29 PM
the latest character is a bisexual apparently... that was a quote from his first line . Sasuke seems very benevolent


no trini i think your wrong

something tells me he is trying to decide which is more fun/ entertaining to kill. guys or girls
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on April 02, 2007, 05:45:55 PM
OMG this is by far one of the most interesting things i have ever seen in an anime the Chunin exam! teaching you how to cheat lmao when Sasuke used sharingan i was like WTF doh make joke yes. Naruto in class want to cry because he dont know one flippin answer.
Whoa... he's like really really really far back... thats a good thing oui...
hey best to be really far back that way i dont have to wait a week or 2 for a new episode like bleach Why oh why do i have to wait a whole week WAAAAAAAAAAAAGH.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on April 04, 2007, 04:51:39 PM
now read the 348...sigh...at least the manga not disappointing like the anime :)

*minor spoiler*

sasuke is ah bamsee, all he sharigan and he cant see the obvious...
lol @ karin files getting buss :D
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on April 04, 2007, 10:34:15 PM
sasuke = gay

349 is out go dwld and read!!!

sasuke refusin hot gurls......why? hmmmm tink tink *scratches head*

Where is Team 8??................................... Kiba..................Shino.......................Hinata..............where r u??
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: spinner on April 06, 2007, 07:22:16 PM
the source of the cursed seals eh? sounds interesting...but i like how sasuke drop it, lvl2 man jump out in front, sasuke..*flash step* the man like 'wtf? he killed me'
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on April 08, 2007, 08:29:17 PM
Lol @ flashstep.......but it is true......sasuke is a gay bada$$ dat flashsteps!!! but dah was real bad..........CS2 man come down n just lose immediately...........that shows how much sasuke has grown........n he still cyah take down itachi??
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on April 08, 2007, 10:56:37 PM
I now reach preliminary matches for chuunin exam lol!. Next match look like Hinata and that other funny eyes guy ( rock lee partner ). But dread that bug dude scary dread lol that shit crazy id give up long time :D. To tell the truth though im really wondering if anyone can beat Gaara that kid is a Demon.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on April 10, 2007, 08:44:12 AM
I now reach preliminary matches for chuunin exam lol!. Next match look like Hinata and that other funny eyes guy ( rock lee partner ). But dread that bug dude scary dread lol that shit crazy id give up long time :D. To tell the truth though im really wondering if anyone can beat Gaara that kid is a Demon.
*W1nTry Grins wide* Gaara is a bad@$$ no 2 ways about that!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on April 10, 2007, 09:38:57 AM
Horse Rock lee almost mash up Gaara WTF too bad he too stupid and now he cant ever be a ninja again ( or so they say ) dum dum dum... . Chouji get beat fast wow! :D
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on April 10, 2007, 11:45:23 AM
LOL @ U ...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on April 10, 2007, 10:50:29 PM
you' ll see.........ENJOY!!! Gaara is my fav character 4 a reason ya kno...........u got's loads a stuff to look forward too...........aaah the good old days!!!!

350 is out!! go read it!!!! goin real good!!! i think it was too short tho....nonetheless a kick@$$ chapter!!!!

btw thought u aught to kno, hinata, kiba and shino were not seen till after team kakashi came bak from the hidden village of sand............
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on April 13, 2007, 08:31:51 PM
 Unless i see a good fight from the anime soon i gonna stop watching it , its too drawn out and fillered, we didn't even get to see Hinata and them after 2  1 hour specials.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on April 13, 2007, 10:07:01 PM
Almost done the first set of main matches Naruto buss up Neji, K......... give up against aburame shino, Shikamaru beat Temari and give up and then Gaara kill 2 ppl on way to fight Sasuke. No offense i find sasuke to be one of the best characters but i find it rather impossible for him to beat Gaara unless he let out some mad power he get from Orochimaru and even then it seems fairly unlikely that he'll win.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on April 13, 2007, 10:12:37 PM
wow... yur so far behind it is actually painfull

especially to hear yu say such rubbish about sasuke :( *sigh*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on April 14, 2007, 04:44:42 PM
SAsugay is ah loSer.......


Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on April 14, 2007, 07:16:13 PM
wow... yur so far behind it is actually painfull

especially to hear yu say such rubbish about sasuke :( *sigh*
As i said before being behind is completely great when it comes to anime as i dont have to wait 1/2 weeks per episode like bleach * sigh *
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on April 27, 2007, 09:04:31 PM
Wooowwww.....my brain just imploding more an more with each passin week at Sasuke's Dreadneesss....Kimimaro in 352! Wow...just...wow. Who else thinks that Naruto's group will find Itachi while Sasuke fighting him, helps, kills itachi and then another Naruto vs. Sasuke fight?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on April 27, 2007, 11:21:35 PM
kudos to kimi bein in the manga!!!! YES!! the naruto manga finally startin to get good, bak on par wid bleach!!

Wooowwww.....my brain just imploding more an more with each passin week at Sasuke's Dreadneesss....Kimimaro in 352! Wow...just...wow. Who else thinks that Naruto's group will find Itachi while Sasuke fighting him, helps, kills itachi and then another Naruto vs. Sasuke fight?

I agree, that's most likely exactly wat gonna happen!! i'm excited, catn wait to see THAT fight!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on April 28, 2007, 12:34:06 AM
why do people decide to post about mangas in the " Anime " section of the forums. It may be same series but anime and manga are quite different =x dont hurt me manga fans lmao!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on April 28, 2007, 01:12:10 AM
Almost done the first set of main matches Naruto buss up Neji, K......... give up against aburame shino, Shikamaru beat Temari and give up and then Gaara kill 2 ppl on way to fight Sasuke. No offense i find sasuke to be one of the best characters but i find it rather impossible for him to beat Gaara unless he let out some mad power he get from Orochimaru and even then it seems fairly unlikely that he'll win.

Geez bro seems like you watching the cartoon network version which is on episode 84 and well we finish all 220 jap episodes and 11 episodes in shippuden.

My boy you neeeeeddddd internet or a friend to link yuh up.

PS the cn version can't touch the original jap anime
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on April 28, 2007, 04:33:46 AM
btw im on episode 100 now and the cn version makes me want to vomit the voice acting is horrible and they talk so slow its like they made it for people who are mentally challenged.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on April 28, 2007, 09:58:31 AM
Lol @ mentally challenged!!! but it's true!!

Believe it!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on May 06, 2007, 04:35:09 PM
Who else thinks that Naruto's group will find Itachi while Sasuke fighting him, helps, kills itachi and then another Naruto vs. Sasuke fight?

unfortunately Sakura gonna kill him ....then Sasugay will get vex an half kill sakura and then naruto will trip and go 9tails on he azz.....NOTE: this will be the end so Naruubi gonna kill sasugay and himself........ then a whole buncha random ppl will try to seal it away and fail so they destroy the bijuu
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on May 06, 2007, 07:37:46 PM
Dread whatever you are on EK stop it... it no healthy fuh yuh...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on May 06, 2007, 08:21:49 PM
I now reach preliminary matches for chuunin exam lol!. Next match look like Hinata and that other funny eyes guy ( rock lee partner ). But dread that bug dude scary dread lol that shit crazy id give up long time :D. To tell the truth though im really wondering if anyone can beat Gaara that kid is a Demon.

well just so you (well you OUGHT to know). Hinata and Neji are cousins

and if you awaiting the Gaara match... I'll only say to get your favorite snack out when the fight starts.. Trust me - you play it back over and over again!


as a side note, Naruto Moive 3 is out not for download via torrent
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on May 06, 2007, 09:59:48 PM
LOL i past preliminaries long timeand yeah gaara real boss but lee get on real bad i now reach where gaara come back as an ally to konoha and he a little more sane lol. He goin to fight this boney guy kimomoro or some crap like that. Somebody tell me i almost reach the end of good episodes and have to switch to shipuden soon.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on May 07, 2007, 07:33:28 AM
AHEM....That's Kaguya Kimimaru
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on May 07, 2007, 05:23:47 PM
lord how i know u were going to be the first to respond to that lol. From the time i saw them dots on his head i realized he was your sig/avatar lol.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on May 07, 2007, 07:55:24 PM
haha....yeah. He's a boss. He get molested by orochimaru...but he's a boss
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on May 07, 2007, 08:37:26 PM
AHEM....That's Kaguya Kimimaru
i just realized that u corrected me for spelling Kimimaro's name wrong and u spelt it wrong to lmao. Shame on u not knowing ur fave characters name
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on May 07, 2007, 09:32:59 PM
haha....yeah. He's a boss. He get molested by orochimaru...but he's a boss

Hmm it seems in Naruto to be a bad@$$ you have to get molested or attempted molested by Oro... if yuh think about it...
Jaraiya - Molested repeatedly
Naurto - Man feel up he stomach and place he 'mark' (seal) over the kyubi seal
Kimi (I ain't gonna look up the spelling, yuh know who I mean) - Definitely molested by Oro
Itachi - Well oro TRY to molest him... but he get shut down
Sasuke - He musse get the most molest, see how Sasuke doh like Oro touching him.... O_o
Kakashi - See de fear in Kakashi eyes that encounter during the Chunin exams... yeah Oro got to him too...

LMAO!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on May 08, 2007, 01:01:06 PM
haha....yeah. He's a boss. He get molested by orochimaru...but he's a boss

Hmm it seems in Naruto to be a bad@$$ you have to get molested or attempted molested by Oro... if yuh think about it...
Jaraiya - Molested repeatedly
Naurto - Man feel up he stomach and place he 'mark' (seal) over the kyubi seal
Kimi (I ain't gonna look up the spelling, yuh know who I mean) - Definitely molested by Oro
Itachi - Well oro TRY to molest him... but he get shut down
Sasuke - He musse get the most molest, see how Sasuke doh like Oro touching him.... O_o
Kakashi - See de fear in Kakashi eyes that encounter during the Chunin exams... yeah Oro got to him too...

LMAO!!!

 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:
 :wav:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on May 08, 2007, 07:18:45 PM
AHEM....That's Kaguya Kimimaru
i just realized that u corrected me for spelling Kimimaro's name wrong and u spelt it wrong to lmao. Shame on u not knowing ur fave characters name

You should check up in that, guy...last time I checked the manga when he debuted the first time it was Kimimaru. It might be correct the way it's spelt in my name, and it might not
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on May 08, 2007, 08:46:39 PM
so either way you wrong? lmao

Justs saw sasuke vs naruto last night omg wtf was those hands coming out of sasukes back that was tarded i thought hed have a cooler second form but oh well nice to see a little background on itachi though.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on May 12, 2007, 12:02:24 PM
WTF i pass the episodes people tell me stop at and i download shippuuden and it start off naruto sakura and a bunch of people chasin sasuke out of the blue so... It seems i do need to watch the other naruto episodes to find out wtf goin cuz it seems i miss a whole big pile of storyline.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Netizen1 on May 13, 2007, 11:48:57 PM
WTF i pass the episodes people tell me stop at and i download shippuuden and it start off naruto sakura and a bunch of people chasin sasuke out of the blue so... It seems i do need to watch the other naruto episodes to find out wtf goin cuz it seems i miss a whole big pile of storyline.

LOL

that's like a sneak preview of things to come later on... you didn't miss nothing after that fight @ the waterfall
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on May 14, 2007, 12:29:26 AM
yeah i realise after watchin the whole episode lmao
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on May 19, 2007, 03:38:41 PM
anyone read 354?? TEAM 8 ARE BACK!! hell yeah!! Hinata, sho them how much u've grown!! shino,kiba n akamaru too!! manga are goin really good.........lot's of info in each chapter since 353. I LOVE IT!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on May 19, 2007, 04:43:13 PM
truly, the manga goin real good, watching anime and reading the manga is like 2 different experience, and hinata is hot, really really hot
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on May 21, 2007, 09:10:07 AM
truly, the manga goin real good, watching anime and reading the manga is like 2 different experience, and hinata is hot, really really hot
Umm ease of the ink there UG O_O....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on May 26, 2007, 10:02:22 PM
who here think that the naruto manga is, at the moment, goin better than the bleach manga? i nevr thought that that would happen....and yes, she is "hot, really really hot"! Lol!

355 was dam good!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: PapaSmurf on May 31, 2007, 10:33:45 PM
Query:

If someone wished to gain as many Naruto episodes as possible beginning with the Invasion of Konoha story arc, what would one have to do, and where would one go?


P.S. I'm well aware of GATT's anti-piracy policy, so for those about to rant, save yr breath or more appropriately yr fingers
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on June 01, 2007, 11:36:46 AM
try torrents www.torrentspy.com or www.isohunt.com they have the eps in groups of 25 or more so that u can download at the same time. At episode 95 u should start downloading from yhtb aka datebayo http://yhbt.mine.nu/ . As for piracy i dont consider this piracy although some may, i think given that the episodes arent available in english other than via downloading or streaming it shouldnt be considered in anyway wrong to do either. I dont recommend streaming though vids take to long to load and usually are bad quality.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: PapaSmurf on June 01, 2007, 06:02:45 PM
I was thinking along the lines of where one might obtain  the episodes  in CD form. I understand that since these are downloadable on the web they aren't pirate copies, unless they are directly burnt from a Shonen Jump CD version. I'm not interested in those, the Japanese Fansubs are the one's I have an interest in. Do any GL's have copies?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on June 02, 2007, 02:33:46 PM
I've got them all, its like 10 DVDs in data files and like 50 DVDs in DVD format. 1 - 140 <-- animeone fan subs and 141 - 220 <-- dattebayo fansubs, and 16 eps of shippuden <-- dattebayo fansubs.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on June 02, 2007, 11:10:09 PM
:dropjaw: OMG OMG OMG Sasuke gettin some serious face time!! :dropjaw: WOW and WDMFMC @ KabutOrochimaru!  :dropjaw:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: spinner on June 04, 2007, 07:20:34 AM
yea boy that kabu-orochi is some scary sh!t right there xD, next chapter should be interesting since its 2 akatsuki against the sharingan
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on June 04, 2007, 10:16:36 AM
I think they've royally screwed up a 'cool' character... ala kabuto. The man was decent and now he just seems plain lame and goen thru... I eh know what Kishi up to but this was one of his 'signature WTFs' the shift to focus on the new gen is fine, but its not like Kabuto old or anything...  ah well... I look forward to the Sasuke fight at least... kabuto gone thru..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on June 05, 2007, 10:00:12 PM
i want the fights to start really badly!!
1) sakura/rin
2) sasuke/akatsuki
3) naruto-hinata-yamato/kabutorochi
4) kiba n shino will prob fight the last 2 members of hebi....suigetsu n juugo respectively

gosh d manga is goin awesome, cant wait to see wat moves hinata has!! hmmm if she has sum shuggohakke related move, wont that mean that eps 148-151 were manga related n thus not jus sum crappy filler?? food 4 thought....  :) not that that arch was crappy, it rocked!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Berzerk on June 30, 2007, 07:10:43 AM
Dont know if anyone else saw this from dattebayo...

Wondering where is this week's Naruto?

Guess what. Profits are down again, Pokemon ratings are dropping faster than iPhone sales, and since we were refused entry to Otakon, we need to get into 20 other less relevant anime cons, and most importantly - Naruto and Bleach keep showing up on Youtube and other crap video upload sites regularly, so here's the deal: Pokemon reaches 100k downloads per episode within 24 hours, or else Naruto is permanently dropped*.

You heard it here first.

*Note: Only the English, French, and Portuguese-Brazilian versions of Naruto will be dropped. We will still release the Hebrew sub.

Dattebayo Staff
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on June 30, 2007, 08:10:48 AM
i cah believe smart people falling for db's stuff

{Y}ou {H}ave {B}een {T}rolled
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on June 30, 2007, 09:34:56 AM
shippunden 19 is releasing next week... only 6 million people in the world speak hebrew ,the DB message is on jones.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: BloodWar on July 03, 2007, 05:44:23 PM
U sure i now notice o.o i ready to download pokemon o.o
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on July 03, 2007, 07:09:17 PM
omfg lol @ hebrew sub hahahahaaha


i would killllllllllllllll to hear naruto in hebrew ahahahahahahaa
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Gaara_Temari_Rulz on July 04, 2007, 02:45:59 PM
let's just hope next week is an hr special....dey skip so much already and we cyah get an hr special yet? so 360 PWNED!!!!!!!!! deidara is alot badder than i thought!! sasuke too.........but he get catch!!!! 361!!!!!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on July 19, 2007, 09:27:56 PM
Oh. My. God.


Let's just say this week's Naruto manga is going to rattle a few preconceptions about a certain shadowed character.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on July 21, 2007, 02:21:14 AM
Just read Manga CH363

OMFG!!...... *jumps around like dumb american kid*

EDIT

*Re-reads manga...wets pants on realizing info revealed WTMC!!!*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on July 22, 2007, 10:40:32 PM
Hmm... I still think they bigging up Sasuke WAYS to much... *shakes head at his eyes will surpass... comment*... its just TOO much man..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on July 23, 2007, 12:47:44 AM
Anyone who thinks what Sasuke did was nothing less than plot no jutsu this chapter is a lunatic.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on July 24, 2007, 08:19:00 AM
WHEY!!!!!!!!! who is that guy? anyone finds he looks like naruto? jus a lil more pierced up
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on July 24, 2007, 09:48:54 AM
Yeah honestly he does... but since we can't see hair colour and ppl speculate the colour as orange as opposed to blonde... the resemblence will seem more apparent in other frames...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on July 26, 2007, 01:04:45 PM
Jesus. What the f**k is Kishimoto smoking?

They've revealed who the....OH MY GOD....they've revealed who the real leader is. The leader's leader so to speak... you would -never- guess who.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on July 26, 2007, 04:00:18 PM
I didn't think it THAT far fetched... what better place to hide than in plain view?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on July 27, 2007, 06:20:01 PM
   Controlling  tailed beasts is something only a handful of people can do , would make sense that they would be related by association or blood ...

Latest episodes have me pissed still.. a set of lectures and unnecessary cuts from the action, but the fight upcoming should be good , looks like a 1 hour special...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: spinner on July 27, 2007, 08:37:12 PM
manga was awesome this week IMO, who woulda guessed that the noob of Akatsuki would turn out to be so dread?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on July 27, 2007, 09:11:25 PM
OMFG....WTF..WTMC..Great F***! ...... get dizzy?!?!?

*faints from self induced genjutsu by reading manga chapter 364*

what the HELL is going on????
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on July 27, 2007, 10:20:02 PM
kishi is on some high grade namekian weed, jes now we go see fusion dance...wait we already did with kabuchimaru
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on July 28, 2007, 10:09:00 AM
kishi is on some high grade namekian weed, jes now we go see fusion dance...wait we already did with kabuchimaru
LMAO fuh real eh!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on July 30, 2007, 10:07:53 AM
OMG!!!
*faints and drools all over the floor, revives sees Tobi again and faints once more*

WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSED OMG!!

i don't think i can work today
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on July 30, 2007, 07:41:53 PM
... omfg at the latest manga!

i not a spoiller eh buh i neeed to talk bou this sh&*^! wtf is going on!!
they cant be for real!!

how they go just drop that bomb out of nowhere?? like wtf!!
so the rumours were true!! but then what the hell is this thing that he talking bout out of nowhere!! wdaa!!
and does itachi know das why he was doin what he was doing?>???
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on July 30, 2007, 09:20:48 PM
 Yea kishi is just doing a better version of DBZ...  but its still better and has some originality . We tolerate copies of LOTR and star wars with Eragorn and the Shannara series . Not everyone can sit down for 10 years and invent a genre , and most ideas have been done already , even if you think about it yourself .




****Potential Spoilers*******!










Tobi and Obito...  Re arrange the same letters/syllables and its the same thing. Wonder how he still alive ? At least this will force them to do Kakashi Gaiden in anime sooner or later . After this arc with Gaara hopefully.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on July 30, 2007, 10:31:07 PM
its just mind boggling that the "silly" rumour about tobi and obito turns out to be true

i hope to goodness those stupid 4th/naruto rumours arent true
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on August 04, 2007, 09:05:49 PM
 ' MY NAME IS UCHIHA OBITO!'  Akatsuki leader wips Obito .

 ' Your master has given you a new name , its a nice name , it is TOBI'
 ' What is your name ?'

' I AM OBITO OF THE UCHIHA CLAN!'
 
Akatsuki leader wips Obito again.

'WHAT IS YOUR NAME BOI!?'

Obito : ' My name is.. Tobi'


(idle and watching roots on tv6)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on August 04, 2007, 09:18:40 PM
OMFG.....i doh understand that but im gonna get MANGA NOW
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: disciple on August 04, 2007, 09:23:07 PM
' MY NAME IS UCHIHA OBITO!'  Akatsuki leader wips Obito .

 ' Your master has given you a new name , its a nice name , it is TOBI'
 ' What is your name ?'

' I AM OBITO OF THE UCHIHA CLAN!'
 
Akatsuki leader wips Obito again.

'WHAT IS YOUR NAME BOI!?'

Obito : ' My name is.. Tobi'


(idle and watching roots on tv6)


lol lol

roots, yes!

*switches to tv6*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on August 13, 2007, 08:08:11 PM
AaAaRRGGHH Where is my 366?!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on August 14, 2007, 05:07:18 PM
no shonnen jump for a week, wait till this friday.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on August 20, 2007, 07:04:04 AM
so.....dibs on sasuke?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on August 20, 2007, 09:35:01 AM
I say it's a bunshin.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on August 21, 2007, 10:43:55 PM
Err.. but 366 out since last week, what allyuh men talking bout?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on August 22, 2007, 07:04:47 AM
sasuke itachi brawl
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on August 24, 2007, 06:18:26 PM
sigh

go back to page 18 and read all those comments people made about kishimoto

now read ch 367 and steups and realise we were right bout kishi
he is both losing his mind, and bending to the will of stupid fan boys.


kick @ss @ sasuke's even more extended raikiri abilities but steups steups steups @ what was revealed
iam personally really really disappointed with both kishi and the story now..

almost to the point of not even wanting to see the sasuke itachi fight
sigh
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on August 24, 2007, 06:43:06 PM
Sing it with me:
"Naruto's father is..."
I mean COME ON, this has been an issue of contention for a LONG time now but if Kakashi saying (way back in the day when he first faced off itachi with Kurenia and Asuma) that itachi was after the fourth's 'LEGACY' ppl usually refer to their kids as their legacy... so its not altogether like a shock... i'd like to know what happened to his mother though... the move by sasuke was decent but nothing to scream about yet... seeing as Sasuke seemed surprised that it was an illusion... kinda makes me think the fight is gonna entail Itachi kicking Sasuke's butt again... or perhaps we'll see another encarnation of the mangekyou sharingan.... a taijutsu version... poor Jaraiya seems like he's reaching the end of his road... WAY too many death indicators... someone might as well have painted a bullseye on him saying drop NUKE here.... next week shall hopefully reveal much more..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on August 25, 2007, 02:21:31 AM
"now read ch 367 and steups and realise we were right bout kishi
he is both losing his mind, and bending to the will of stupid fan boys."


If you think for a single, solitary, MOMENT that Naruto wasn't the fourth's son you should stop reading shonen manga and seriously, please, up about the "bending to fans will" comment. It makes no sense and you know it's unjustifable. The name of the manga is 'Naruto', not 'Sasuke', it's absurd and you are ironically being nonsensically fanboyish.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on August 25, 2007, 09:47:45 AM
... being nonsensically fanboyish.

how many times have we heard that statement before... *casts furtive glance at Crixx*  :awesome:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on August 25, 2007, 11:21:11 AM
"now read ch 367 and steups and realise we were right bout kishi
he is both losing his mind, and bending to the will of stupid fan boys."


If you think for a single, solitary, MOMENT that Naruto wasn't the fourth's son you should stop reading shonen manga and seriously, please, up about the "bending to fans will" comment. It makes no sense and you know it's unjustifable. The name of the manga is 'Naruto', not 'Sasuke', it's absurd and you are ironically being nonsensically fanboyish.

no
the reason why this was a stupid move is becuase it  was so ridiculously predictable! wtf was the point of all the suspense with out even TRYING to create a plot twist.

He started off well, giving hints but not being concrete, like what he did with konohamaru and azuma, that was nice, keep them wondering and then twist it up but noooooooo
yu have no idea how many people have become disenfranchised with the series with that one stupid revelation.
Iam so disappointed now that i dont even wanna see the sasuke itachi fight.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on August 25, 2007, 12:00:31 PM
Ah boy. Crixx. Do you know why it was predictable? Come one. Take a guess...

Maybe, and just maybe, it's because he spent, oh, I don't know the span of the entire manga foreshadowing as much? Really...just how many times was this implied? For christ's sake they even have the same character design. Please...since you're so sure suggest something, anything substantial that would've been a better way of handling this article. Even so, what the hell is the purpose of creating a plot twist for the sake of it? That's not 'cool', that's just annoying and no writer spends so much time BLATATNLY alluding an event or plot point to twist it. Aside from that they still have not covered the reasonings behind his relations being kept secret from him. Hell, yondaime's paternity is just a fraction of what need to be revealed in that storyline so you might still get your precious "twist".

And what the hell? Since when is it a literary rule that all suspense is only wothwhile if there's a plot twist? That's just damned ridiculous.

Secondly...-all- shonen manga have a level of definite predictability to it. Simply because shonen, as a rule, is formulaic writing. You say that many people are disenfranchised? Well that's a glaringly obvious exaggeration. But...to humour you...most of you who feel that way are still going to read the manga regardless of it. Back to reality now, though. You people are in the minority and will always be in the minority. If you get disenfranchised over such an obvious and currently inconsequential to the storyline plot device then it's really simple; stop reading the manga. Your non-readership will go gloriously unnoticed, I can assure you.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on August 25, 2007, 04:27:53 PM
:dropjaw: :dropjaw: :dropjaw:

All of this bachanal over one of the coolest things i have read. Jeez! :shakehead: :shakehead:

hows about we remember its just a fictional book and have fun reading it :happy0203:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on August 27, 2007, 08:10:58 AM
:dropjaw: :dropjaw: :dropjaw:

All of this bachanal over one of the coolest things i have read. Jeez! :shakehead: :shakehead:

hows about we remember its just a fictional book and have fun reading it :happy0203:

Have to agree with you there UG this though expected kinda had my jaw dropping as well.......i wonder if naruto moms was a best....and we're taking side bets on the Jaraiya vs Pein odds are against Jaraiya but I'm hoping since we never really got to see him in a high level battle by himself he lives through at least this one...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on August 27, 2007, 06:04:59 PM
.......i wonder if naruto moms was a best....

dude WTF???
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on August 28, 2007, 07:12:06 AM
.......i wonder if naruto moms was a best....

dude WTF???

lol uh...yuh know i mean she did copulate with the fourth...

one more thing

Kakashi for Hokage.....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on August 28, 2007, 07:34:06 PM
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/070821.jpg < check that out..


Kakashi was the obvious choice for hokage , well among the characters we knew about.

He taught Naruto more in a few weeks than Ero Sennin  did in a year...

He can do jutsus on the level of a Hokage , produce water without a large water source etc.

He knows over 1000 justus and probably can teach all of them to others , as much or maybe more than the third hokage ..

He is probably the strongest in the village  if he is willing to damage himself bussing mangekyou sharingan . 

With a strong team supporting him eg. Gai , Sakura , Naruto etc. he can probably take on any threat Konoha has to face..

Notice Akatsuki isn't attacking Konoha directly , their strategy is to weaken and bankrupt all the villages .

Anyone remember how Itachi wanted to capture Kakashi alive in their first fight?

Obviously he knows he could have unleashed the Mangekyou , and if they could brainwash him like they did Obito (if they did brainwash Obito , he won't attack Konoha ninja otherwise) he would have made a potential member .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on August 28, 2007, 09:44:17 PM
KAKASHI FOR HOKAGE <-- HELL's TO THE YEAH!!!!

As for the jaraiya fight i seein jaraiya getting lix.... Not badly though.... Well probably a draw.... Well may be he would... Well...

I guess I'll have to wait and see.

Truely though I hoping that during the fight jaraiya put up an excellent fight and then when pein try to kill him naruto shows up
and is pissed to see jaraiya lying there.... dying.

And he screams ero-sennin, ero-sennin then he cries ero-sennin then his eyes turn red and his teeth grow long and his nails
grow out and he says his favourite line <-- you know the one where he threatens to kill someone who will more than likely kick
is a$$. Anyway in continuing naruto skips one tail, two tails and three tails and jumps straight into four tail mode.

And the fight starts there. So naruto can only get more pissed and we will see more tails in action.

Meanwhile, whilst kakashi was travelling from tree to tree he senses something/someone... thats right, you guessed it <-- his old pal obito.
Needless to say there will be some talking there before the fight begins.

At the same time sasuke and itatchi are battling for the last of the uchiha's, with one awesome display of all levels of jutsus.
until....

sasuke's hate leads him to, you guessed it.... and ultimate version of mangekuo sharingan, and after inflicting it on his brother itatchi lies there
motionless. He looks into sasuke's eyes saying to him: "you've gotten stronger, now kill me". Sasuke's rage takes him to another level and and he reached for his sword to pierce it throught itatchi's face......... stab!!!!!

Just to the right of his face. He's unable to carry out the kill. He goes beserk, his mind is playing tricks on him.

Umm.........

2 B Continued......
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on August 28, 2007, 10:11:59 PM
lol go change your name to masashi  kishimoto now and learn to draw manga
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on August 29, 2007, 07:15:29 AM
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/070821.jpg < check that out..


dread if your chakra wasn't so far gone i would have given you some OROCHIMARU JACKSON LOL

Quote
So Itachi found the pics huh?

UG lol yuh taking it too far....

Kakashi for Prime Minister

well worth my 1000th post
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on August 29, 2007, 10:13:09 PM
From what i've seen in the spoilers... this week will be pretty quiet... more story telling... Jaraiya interrogates some rain village ppls, Konan (the girl) does a jutsu to find Jaraiya... oh and Sasuke and Hebi start moving toa new location... presumably where Itachi is...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Andrew_005 on September 01, 2007, 02:56:51 AM
lol... maybe Jiraiya will end up in another bar looking for some rain country girls... :)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 01, 2007, 03:07:11 PM
 Naruto has alot of 'fale thrills' . Alot of the time we expect someone to dead.. when its a bunshin or replacement..
   
  Alot of the time we expect ' next manga go be big fight!' and there is none .

Helps sell comics...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on September 07, 2007, 10:10:40 PM
369 is out.
No real action going on. But they seem to be building Pain up a hell of alot. And it looks like he and Jiraiya gonna have a showdown next chapter. Will be interesting to see if Jiraiya survives.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on September 08, 2007, 11:54:34 AM
I'm afraid to watch next chapter.. this Pain guy already sounds ridiculous in his abilities.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 08, 2007, 01:55:49 PM
 and it looks like he's a clone of someone.. or cloned himself  at least,  notice the 6 canisters in the room?
 
 obviously related to naruto/ yondaime somehow
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on September 08, 2007, 04:03:28 PM
and it looks like he's a clone of someone.. or cloned himself  at least,  notice the 6 canisters in the room?
 
 obviously related to naruto/ yondaime somehow

My thoughts exactly
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on September 09, 2007, 10:02:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFj8Zv_yZ_o&mode=related&search=

I know this theory has more or less been invalidated now, but a friend put me on to this vid a while back and I personally loved it
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on September 10, 2007, 08:39:27 AM
ok well.....jirayia going to get raped....imagine a fella give the sanin their name in exchange for their lives...wt hell?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on September 10, 2007, 10:17:45 AM
Nah man I believe in jaraiya, he will hold his own. Anyway, that was a loooong time ago. It will be a good fight. One that i can't wait to see.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on September 10, 2007, 11:51:14 AM
Yeah i'd be sorely disappointed if Jaraiya get's handed his rear end in a minute, we should at least see him take out that body pain has selected (fat guy) or whatever the symbol translates to... I mean Pain does have 2-5 other bodies, so what's 1?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on September 14, 2007, 04:38:04 PM
PLOI PLOI! Naruto is only going to get stronger

This week have me even on more edge.....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on September 14, 2007, 09:36:23 PM
what goin on with the manga tonight it should be out by now
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on September 14, 2007, 10:25:08 PM
:dropjaw: :dropjaw: :dropjaw:

WDMC!!!11one
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on September 14, 2007, 10:51:49 PM
This was one of the more interesting chapters in quite a while.
Very VERY interesting revelations. I think this should put to bed the whole Tobi being Obito thing.
There's no way Obito would have had that summoning ability that Madara had such that Tobi would be able to say he has "Uchiha Madara's power" if he was Obito.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 15, 2007, 01:12:18 PM
  finally the plot is revealed... Question is , will there be more major arcs after this ? Kakashi THEN naruto becoming hokage ?

 Maybe we'll see a 'World War' in the narutoverse due to the actions of the akatsuki etc. , remember how fast villages can be formed and destroyed by frequent wars.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on September 15, 2007, 07:44:39 PM
I don't see any reason why Kishi can't just make up some new enemy to fight. It's a big ass world and we've only seen a small portion of it.

About Hokage though, I don't see Naruto succeeding Kakashi unless he's killed. Kakashi is only like 14-16 years older than Naruto. By the time Kakashi is ready for a successor he'd want someone younger than Naruto. Naruto better hope Tsunade reign long enough for him to grow up.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on September 15, 2007, 10:10:29 PM
When naruto learns to summon and control kyuubi, then in my eyes he is fit to be hokage
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on September 16, 2007, 12:42:45 AM
There's going to be one more time jump...the enemy of the last arc is probably going to be root and kabutorochimaru....maybe even sasuke.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 16, 2007, 11:13:10 PM
 Watched over the first part of ep 1. shippunden... 



SPOILERS *****************





 Certain sharingan can control the Kyuubi , as Crixx noted Sasuke was supressing the fox with his , This is why Itachi left Sasuke  and Kakashi alive , and why they now have Obito .

'' Eyes with such Chakra and power , More sinister than my own''

In the manga  Kyuubi also mentioned that Sasuke shouldn't kill naruto ,  Orochimaru also stopped him from killing them...

Obviously we'll see later on a direct connection between the Uchiha , Kyuubi and a plan set in motion by Uchiha Madara or someone else ..

 Possibly Uchiha Madara is still alive , or hibernating or something.. and he'll be a major boss to fight , having the Mangakyou sharingan....


 I'm thinking that possibly Itachi realises that Sasuke / Kakashi's sharingan are stronger than his own , and wants to take them for himself (implant) so he can summon Kyuubi ....

 I'd think that Kakashi's use of the MS was stronger than Itachi's... Even if it isn't , Itachi can't use the MS too often without damaging his eyes... He might just want replacements...  he already has an uchiha body , so the transplant won't affect him as much.

 I'm thinking Itachi got the MS from a forbidden jutsu , and he was perhaps never meant to have it, so he is damaging his eyes . Kakashi may have found a similar jutsu or attained it naturally ...

 Orochimaru also said ' His eyes will surpass his brother'  , he perhaps wanted the Sharingan for more than just copying jutsu and MS .. maybe to control  Kyuubi and other Biijuu ?

Killing the whole Uchiha clan obviously had a purpose as well, obviously to force Sasuke to become extremely powerful , but perhaps to prevent him from learning secrets as well eg. About Uchiha Madara and the history of the clan  (remember he said he didn't know who madara was) ..

 Maybe the Uchiha were an obstacle to Akatsuki's plans in some way as well...

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: disciple on September 16, 2007, 11:40:53 PM
but aint to get the MS in the first place, is a forbidden jutsu, yuh hadda kill yuh friend? and  i seem to remember sasuke reading the history of the uchiha clan, and being disgusted by it?  o was it itachi.. * confusion no jutsu*


madara seemed like a high man... from tha last two chapters, they said the kyuubi was a naturally occurin phenomenon, as a result of the evil and depravity of mankind, not so? perhaps hastened by intervention from madara... cuz kyuubi had ask sasuke if he knew madara, not so?

oh, and is the connection between obito and tobi documented? or just hearsay?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on September 17, 2007, 12:58:55 AM
Actually Kyuubi had made a comparision between Sasuke and Madara's sinister chakras, not asking sasuke outright.

Sasuke's response: " And you expect me to know who he is?"


The tobi/obito story we can call dead... don't forget that Kakashi's sharingan was 'donated' by Obito. (Though i'll admit it can account for only one eye (right) of the akatsuki mastermind being shown, and we should also note that it was the opposite eye (left) donated by Obito...)

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on September 17, 2007, 08:06:37 AM
Tobi is ever more likely Madara. How? No idea. Madara shouldn't be alive. But there is much allusion that they are one and the same, especially after reading this chapter and seeing jiraya's words... although there hasn't been any absolutely concrete confirmation.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on September 17, 2007, 09:03:38 AM
I don't see why its so hard to fathom that Madara is still alive? Look at Kakuza? he fought the 1st hokage and was still alive. Look at Orochomaru? he has been transfering his soul into other bodies for some time now to extend his life... Someone of Madara's considerable strength and intellect I am positive could still be alive now through some forbidden type of jutsu. I do have a theory though, seeing as tobi seems to have some form of spacial issue (aka you can't physically attack him) I suspect that Madara/tobi might not have a body of solid matter... meaning he's not quite in this realm and his interest in Sasuke may be similar to Orocho...no not the michael jackson type interest, but perhaps for him to completely return to his physical form permanently, he's looking for an Uchiha of unparalleled tallent... its just a thought.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 17, 2007, 03:41:09 PM
good theory by winnie.. Maybe Tobi/Obito did rise from the dead to fulfill Madara's will  .


 We can look forward to possibly the biggest naruto fight yet ... Jiraiya will most likely die though,  providing motive for Naruto to become much stronger to face Pain and Pain to quicken his plans once he realises Konoha is on to him.

 Its a theme in literature , the teacher must die for the student to grow up eg. Obi Wan Kenobi , Yoda and Luke skywalker .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on September 17, 2007, 04:07:22 PM
Boba and Jango! Asuma and shika!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on September 17, 2007, 05:28:53 PM
Dumbledore and Harry Potter!
*is killed in a hail of kunai*

Anyway I think that Obito thing is dead as well. One of the big pushes for Obito was that Tobi only said Uchiha Madara's power, which they assumed could mean sharingan only. But if we're dealing with a Kyuubi summon then no way Obito could do that.
I wonder though if it's some form of resurrection jutsu at work here.

And I don't think Kakashi's MS better than Itachi's. Kakashi using MS means instant hospital. The exact workings of whats happening to Itachi isn't known yet. It's possible he just overextended himself when he Tsukuyomied Sasuke and then had to use Ameratsu to escape Jiraiya. The extra strain having caused the damage rather than MS itself.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: disciple on September 17, 2007, 05:50:06 PM
nah, didn't kakashi say something about the extensive use of Mangekoyou alone takes a toll on the eyes, when he had bounce him up a while aback, durin the gaara retrieval

and also, kakashi's mangekoyou is not the true one, but his approximation of it..... ( he didnt kill his best friend.. or did obito's death count?? hmm)

i seem to remember him sayin tha


with regard to tobi having madara's power.. that ain't too far fetched.. look how yamato got the first's power, through DNA ( orichmaru's handiwork.. and as orichimaru was in akatsuki, it plausible)

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on September 22, 2007, 10:13:34 PM
Ok WOW. that being said, anybody else find pain body #2 looks freakishly like a certain dead clay-eating sharingan h8r?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on September 23, 2007, 01:13:37 AM
I guess pain/pein has a body for each akatsuki member. I won't doubt that jaraiya can't defeat his students(i mean come on, its jaraiya), but if pain/pein could just hop into another body all refreshed and recharged, I guess my favourite character is about to buy the farm.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on September 23, 2007, 03:09:08 AM
yeah the resemblance to deidara is uncanny

and so is pain's resemblance to naruto
will be (maybe) interesting to find out wha going on

on a second note...

why jiraiya trackin de paper girl?
lord he doh ever stop... *sigh*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on September 23, 2007, 09:52:26 AM
so i've come to the conclusion that kishi goes to various naruto forums around the net to get ideas...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on September 23, 2007, 10:35:21 AM
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3010/jiraiyageninteamco1.jpg)

Yup, that's Jiraiya alright. Mhm, and that's definitely Minato.
That could certainly be Konan.
And that's Pai-wait wut? Pain is the dark chubby kid?

I'm guessing this one wasn't planned too far back...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on September 23, 2007, 10:39:53 AM
once a ladies man, always a ladies man.. even in the face of almost certain death....

I am surprised that Pain refer to Jiraya as "sensei", and that Jiraya knows Konan personally. I am curious as to the history between these three...

Guess exar just answered my question... :ko:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on September 23, 2007, 11:24:46 AM
DSI, dats waht evil does to you
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on September 23, 2007, 12:42:39 PM
so i've come to the conclusion that kishi goes to various naruto forums around the net to get ideas...

Zabusa Sword, anyone?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on September 23, 2007, 04:07:08 PM
 Possibly pain just made clones of strong shinobi that were available.. and isn't really related to Minato.
 
  The anime is badly planned and will mess up the storyline eventually.. apparently Naruto's mother is 'fuuma clan' , and there was a filler arc about them already.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on September 23, 2007, 05:02:02 PM
yeah, filler though. non-canon. The fuuma arc isnt the one with the once-in-a-lifetime jutsu?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: disciple on September 23, 2007, 05:20:11 PM
ent fuuma was rice country, and naruto moms was whirlpool??

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on September 23, 2007, 06:39:03 PM
fuuma is the weapons clan i think.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on September 23, 2007, 08:40:09 PM
No Fuma was in the very first filler arc where they went looking for the sound village and they fought a Kabuto imposter who used chakra threads to bind people.
Pretty horrible arc.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Andrew_005 on September 26, 2007, 03:20:59 PM
What's funny in this manga episode is it looks like Jiraiya wants to take my girl out for some sake
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: disciple on September 29, 2007, 01:36:08 PM
hmm..

just read 372..
tobi is not obito..lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on September 29, 2007, 02:23:49 PM
Er....how you get that from 372?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on September 29, 2007, 02:35:40 PM
now go to ask that same thing... O.o
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on September 29, 2007, 03:30:34 PM
I think he's assuming that Tobi is Nagato.
But that doesn't make sense without some more explaining seeing as how the Sharingan is native to Konoha.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: disciple on September 29, 2007, 04:14:21 PM
nah. the third youthman.. hey weren't showin the eyes.. tilll the end, where jiraiya remarked about itl ... ent he is tobi?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on September 29, 2007, 05:11:17 PM
No. Erm. That's Pein. Or rather...has Pein's eyes.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on September 29, 2007, 06:14:21 PM
That Correct
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on September 29, 2007, 07:14:38 PM
Wait wait, now I confused.
Three of them. One obviously is Konan. Then there's the youth whose eye they show in the last panel and say "The birth of Pain!". That's Nagato. Then there's the one that looks like the Pain that addresses the Akatsuki getherings. That's Yahiko.

I guess you're right about the eyes, I didn't notice that. I was more seeing that they were only showing one, like they do with Tobi.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: disciple on September 29, 2007, 07:26:42 PM
No. Erm. That's Pein. Or rather...has Pein's eyes.


i am Jack's TOTAL sense of embarassment. LOL
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on October 01, 2007, 12:21:30 PM
Wait wait, now I confused.
Three of them. One obviously is Konan. Then there's the youth whose eye they show in the last panel and say "The birth of Pain!". That's Nagato. Then there's the one that looks like the Pain that addresses the Akatsuki getherings. That's Yahiko.

I guess you're right about the eyes, I didn't notice that. I was more seeing that they were only showing one, like they do with Tobi.

So then if we follow current trend.....Pein/pain killed Yahiko and using his body to address the Akatsuki?

and disciple when i first saw those eyes i thought he was Tobi too...had to do a double take....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on October 01, 2007, 01:18:26 PM
Wait wait, now I confused.
Three of them. One obviously is Konan. Then there's the youth whose eye they show in the last panel and say "The birth of Pain!". That's Nagato. Then there's the one that looks like the Pain that addresses the Akatsuki getherings. That's Yahiko.
I guess you're right about the eyes, I didn't notice that. I was more seeing that they were only showing one, like they do with Tobi.

So then if we follow current trend.....Pein/pain killed Yahiko and using his body to address the Akatsuki?

and disciple when i first saw those eyes i thought he was Tobi too...had to do a double take....

I thinkin that as well. a kakashi-obito "becoming one" kinda scene. konan did say that they're following 'his' ideals.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 05, 2007, 06:37:24 PM
Enter the Rin'negan!!
O_o

Yeah...seriously, the ultimate doujutsu and a name like that.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 05, 2007, 09:04:32 PM
i find he going kinda overboard now though..

this kinda expansion could make naruto go on forever

it go have f**kin super saiyans landing just now an ting
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on October 05, 2007, 11:52:33 PM
Now whilst I agree that Naruto took a course down $hit story lane a while back did anyone read what the Rinhoweveryouspellitdoujutsu stands for? the name is simply made up of words to mean a specific thing... life, death and the cycle thereof, which will inherently have a link to his many body jutsu... I agree the name SUCKS B@LLZ (the dragon variety) but hey I say give it a chance, in the least we'll get to see some bad@$$ jutsu in an epic fight of Sanin vs. The ultimate doujutsu... on the other hand, that doesn't quite explain why someone as powerful as he would be working UNDER a mere 'sharingan' user, if his doujutsu is more powerful....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: disciple on October 06, 2007, 12:08:24 AM
i beg to differ...
as a dealer of death (sic)

i find it some sort of poetic justice that jiraiya dies at the hands of a pupil.. someon he tried to save..   \

in the end.. naruto will have to face pein...  after quite some time and NUFF arcs.......but naruto WILL duss him out.... with sask-gay' s help. of course..lol

sasuke will kill itachi.... and come back to the leaf..

but doh take me on... i drunk :P
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on October 06, 2007, 06:20:09 AM
Now whilst I agree that Naruto took a course down $hit story lane a while back did anyone read what the Rinhoweveryouspellitdoujutsu stands for? the name is simply made up of words to mean a specific thing... life, death and the cycle thereof, which will inherently have a link to his many body jutsu... I agree the name SUCKS B@LLZ (the dragon variety) but hey I say give it a chance, in the least we'll get to see some bad@$$ jutsu in an epic fight of Sanin vs. The ultimate doujutsu... on the other hand, that doesn't quite explain why someone as powerful as he would be working UNDER a mere 'sharingan' user, if his doujutsu is more powerful....

Rinne - Shinto (samsara - buddhist) -- Buddhist term for transmigration of the soul

I don't think it's any less slapdash than any of his other names. Also, it's possible that he's not working "under" him...but rather, working "for" him. Pein is above all things a mercenary and warlord and to be honest they've really not defined their relationship at all. I always though it was weird that Tobi would tell him "You're the akatsuki leader," if he actually wasn't and he himself was. More and more I think there's a sort of symbiosis between the two where both their goals can be realised in the same plan.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 06, 2007, 12:24:03 PM
I think we should remember that we're dealing with Madara having the SHARINGAN here.
Rin'negan may be the s*** right now but you better believe that when Tobi's turn comes his Sharingan will make Rin'negan look like crap. That *is* how shounen works after all.

Expect Kishi to reach brand new levels of pullitoutyourass-itis when Madara reveals his third level sharingan (MS being 2nd).
And if that isn't enough you *know* Orochimaru gonna come back after the next time skip like a baller that would wipe his shoes on even Madara. We all remember the Frieza -> Cell -> Buu progression after all.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on October 07, 2007, 05:55:09 PM
Still though this fight HAVE to be bad


its funny how there is somehow a naruto/sasuke/sakura like group E'erytime a seriously gangstazz group comes up..

Oro, Jir & Tsu
Nag,*other guy*& Konan
Kakashi, Obito and...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 07, 2007, 07:30:06 PM
I wouldn't mind Naruto going on forever once it maintains a good plot , and we see naruto become hokage in the year 2015 or something .

  I still think the Sharingan is the coolest looking...

 Revealing the Ren'negan is timely , soon we'll learn the origins of the Sharingan which i feel is either an evolution/adaptation of Byakugan.. or somehow related to the Ren'negan through some mythical thing..
 
 Apparantly the sharingan is 'cursed chakra' ,
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on October 12, 2007, 06:56:32 AM
so any thoughts on today?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 12, 2007, 05:20:54 PM
Where are you getting your scanlations so early?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: disciple on October 12, 2007, 05:27:18 PM
i want to know, as well.. lol.

my usual source is blank today :-(
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 12, 2007, 05:50:47 PM
wtf is with all the damn chinese scans!!!

wtf!! f**** translate it instead of posting the damn chinese pleaseeeeeeee ugggghhh
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 12, 2007, 05:54:47 PM
CHINEE TAKIN OVER!!!
But seriously, someone tell us where the translations are. All three of the places I normally check are bare.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 12, 2007, 05:56:06 PM
even the bleach is just chinese scans
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on October 12, 2007, 06:17:58 PM
wah happen to anime....for both bleach an naruto???
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on October 12, 2007, 06:27:37 PM
No Naruto till the 18th. and Bleach I thought (well for naruto as well to be honest) the season was finished but next week bleach as normal, up till 146, and 147 a filler arc startin (forest of Menos)

Some new series out as well tho, nice ones to fill the voids.
Dragonaut lookin good, despite the first episode being full of overdone yet staple cliches
Clannad looks good and yet havent yet had time to check out blue drop
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 12, 2007, 09:37:10 PM
onemanga has their scanlation up.

A very loopy chapter. Given that we've got another time jump still to come I'm rather frightened of what Kishi will come up with next. Nagato seems crazy as hell. And his master plan is basically a rip off of the cold war's nuclear deterrent.
Also given that Tobi is his boss, I wonder if he's just being used into thinking this is Akatsuki's ultimate goal, or whether Tobi believes this crap too.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on October 13, 2007, 01:02:47 PM
I am thinking more along the lines that Nagato is perhaps using Tobi instead... meaning the Riningan isn't able to control the Biju thus he needs a powerful sharingan user, however the Riningan in and of itself could prolly beat the sharingan... time alone will tell... now whats this of ANOTHER TIME JUMP???
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 13, 2007, 05:20:15 PM
Kishi has stated that he plans to have two time jumps in the series.
While the way you call it could be the case, I don't think it is. The way Kishi is approaching Tobi, basically having his story gradually fall in from the outside leads me to believe that he wants it to take priority at some point, thus making Tobi a real boss as opposed to the figurehead who's being controlled.

It seems that this idea at the very least is the sort of thing he's put alot of time into contriving. Unlike Pain who seems to have been pulled from his ass sometime a few months ago, Madara's foundation was laid over 100 chapters ago when he made carefully sure that his statue was the one opposite Shodai Hokage. This can't be coincidence because it seems to me the natural person to have opposite Shodai is Nidaime. So given that he's put the basic groundwork from that far back i don't think Tobi is going to be shrugged aside for Pain.

I've noticed that this week's chapter has caused a serious backlash against Pain though. Where once everyone thought he was badass his status has sunk faster than a rock in the water.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 13, 2007, 08:27:43 PM
hes still a bad ass

but yeah iam sure the biggest wtf moment for a long time has been the revelation that the statue opposite shodaime was madara

i mean he even looks alot like nidaime and since shodaime and nidaime basically built konoha from the ground up it would have made sense for them to be those statues

but i dont see why latest chapter downplayed pains uberness
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on October 13, 2007, 08:38:27 PM
Simply put: Pain has too much of a god complex to have a boss. Akatsuki are all mercenaries for hire and S-class criminals. What would make their leader any different? Nah...Pain and Tobi are in league. If not partners, then business associates. Tobi, however and whoever he is...is definitely the last antagonist.

Either him or Kabut/o/richimaru.

About the legitamacy of pain as a character...I wanted to believe it initially...but pain also probably hasn't been pulled out of his ass... mainly because of Konan's parallel existence despite her lacking an actual identity until recently and also Pain's possession of the Rinnegan. It, though again unrevealed, has also been shown quite a few chapters ago.  QUITE a few.

As for the backlash against pain...well...meh...it depends on where you look. I've seen increased hype for him by that very same token. I think the fact that he has not only a plan for the economic but also social manipulation of the world to be damned awesome. The number one rule of shonen fans is this: They're going to complain.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on October 15, 2007, 12:26:49 PM
ok so.....im rather dissappointed they made out pain to be a mad man...but suppose kishi does to him what he did to kimimaro in the sense that he come out hot and sweaty and died soon after? cause the first ever episode i saw of naruto was the kimimaro and gaara fight....been hooked on the stuff since then....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on October 15, 2007, 01:36:16 PM
.... :( ....painful memories...

He still dread tho...Give me a chance to prove it...on the Cube!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on October 16, 2007, 12:05:30 AM
Oh no. Pain may be an amoral megalomaniac but certainly he isn't crazy.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 19, 2007, 11:48:16 PM
My thoughts on the new chapter can be summed up as such:  NOT SO FAST KAIBA...I MEAN PAIN!!

It's like they're playing freakin Yu-gi-oh now...
Only interesting part was this new summon of Jiraiya's.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 26, 2007, 11:48:16 PM
 Latest manga.... more summons , backstory ...


 Pain can use all six elements , nothing else has been mentioned so far...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on October 27, 2007, 01:19:08 PM
so...based on this new chapter....jiarya obviously found the frogs before he joined the sennin team....so that means he was a complete bad ass before he was even a gennin? Just a wild meaningless theory
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on October 27, 2007, 05:38:25 PM
My thoughts on the new chapter can be summed up as such:  NOT SO FAST KAIBA...I MEAN PAIN!!

It's like they're playing freakin Yu-gi-oh now...
Only interesting part was this new summon of Jiraiya's.

Shonen, Rules, DBZ, Death Note, Etc
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 27, 2007, 06:04:27 PM
so...based on this new chapter....jiarya obviously found the frogs before he joined the sennin team....so that means he was a complete bad ass before he was even a gennin? Just a wild meaningless theory

Nah nothing like that. Sannin and Sennin are completely different things. Sennin means sage or something.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on October 27, 2007, 07:00:50 PM
Did anyone else look deeper into what the elder said about a student being either the greatest thing or the demise of mankind.

Not pain but possibly naruto.

Hear me out, naruto being who he is with his confident personality and big heart could become friends with just about anyone and
actually unite the nations

But again, being a jinchuurichi and may not be able to control his biju he may as well destroy the world, as we can see the way he demised orichamaru and destroyed half the forrest in 4 tails mode, imagine 9 tails.

Maybe I am reading too much into it.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on October 27, 2007, 07:15:13 PM
No. You're not. I'm sure it's Naruto as well. There's no reason the prophesy would be so vague if it weren't meant for open interpretation like that. Although, I'd rather it be Pain.

But to be quite honest...this can be applied to anyone he's really mentored. Minato, Nagato and Naruto.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on October 28, 2007, 01:42:09 PM
Did anyone else look deeper into what the elder said about a student being either the greatest thing or the demise of mankind.

Not pain but possibly naruto.

Hear me out, naruto being who he is with his confident personality and big heart could become friends with just about anyone and
actually unite the nations

But again, being a jinchuurichi and may not be able to control his biju he may as well destroy the world, as we can see the way he demised orichamaru and destroyed half the forrest in 4 tails mode, imagine 9 tails.

Maybe I am reading too much into it.

Obviously its naruto..."he has the power to change anyone he meets" and all that crap....its one of those things the writer is putting into place now but isnt gonna come out and say it but leave it to be quite obvious eg, who is naruto's daddy?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 28, 2007, 03:03:54 PM
naruto didnt "demise" oro
please stop letting the fanboyism cloud reality

and ever since that revelation about ultra dreadest gyangsta baddest de 4th

any further revelations not gonna be like *gasp no way*  *rolls eyes*
but doh study

pimp daddy sasuke will slap dat lil gennin back into place anytime he ack up
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on October 28, 2007, 06:31:12 PM
pimp daddy sasuke will slap dat lil gennin back into place anytime he ack up

Yeah right!!!!

Sure sasuke dread but I can think of 101 reasons why naruto will kick his behind back to sasukeland
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on October 28, 2007, 07:30:17 PM
do tell, please
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 28, 2007, 08:38:47 PM
I suppose it's too much to hope that Sasuke does not survive his encounter with Itachi.
Honestly if he died I think the series would be looking up alot more.
Yeah, that's right, I said it. Sasuke sucks.

And if he and Naruto clashed in a PTS version of VotE, Chidori versus Rasenshuriken, Sasuke will die. No two ways about it, Rasenshuriken is unstoppable.
But of course at the vend of the day it will end up where Sasuke uses his "that jutsu" and then Naruto will use his "that jutsu" wihich will be by far the more powerful "that jutsu" so then "that jutsu" will clash with "that jutsu" and "that jutsu" will triumph leaving Naruto the last one standing. It's very simple *snicker*.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 28, 2007, 09:20:42 PM
yu must truly be insane to think naruto's jutsu will be "by far more powerful" lol

sasuke jutsu wont be some lame one dimensional i must run straight at  my enemy and melee himm like a flikkin nab jutsu

in all likelyhood it will be some sort of ranged aoe attack.

just look at the versatility of his chidori at this point.

extendable and can manipulate its shape while its inside the victim
far to uber

and if he does manage to beat itachi, iam sure he will ascend to some itachi esque level
revealing his top tier sharingan.

and if itachi's clone can be manersing naruto at every turn
far less when sasuke put his hand thru his chest AGAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

do NOTTTTTTTTTTT forget the vagrant beatings of past that naruto have endured.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 28, 2007, 10:49:35 PM
Being able to generate a bodily chidori field like Blanka doesn't impress me nearly as much as creating the highest known level ninjutsu in the world. Minato couldn't do what Naruto did, Kakashi couldn't either, or Jiraiya. Kakashi said himself that Naruto would be the man to create a jutsu higher than S-rank, and that's what he created.

And while sharingan is a ridiculously uber hax move, it isn't unbeatable. Shodai handed Madara his ass didn't he? And Itachi ran from Jiraiya. Frankly I don't think Naruto can beat him as things stand, not without using tailed forms anyway, but if you think anyone will have the last laugh but Naruto you must be forgetting that this is shounen.

And lastly, as far as "that jutsu" goes, I'll say you're the one that must be insane to think anything will be able to surpass Naruto's, whatever it is. Naruto's "that jutsu" is the culmination of Yondaime's ultimate plan for sealing the Kyuubi's yang chakra in him. The Kyuubi is bar none the strongest being in the narutoverse. Whatever it is that Naruto has coming will the equivalent of SSJ as Toriyama originally intended it (with Frieza saga being the end of the series). It's the shounen rule, and Kishi is too bogged down by these things to do otherwise.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 28, 2007, 11:25:49 PM
your wrong about the rasengthingy though

naruto didnt create it
naruto +kakashi did
and both times weve seen naruto use it
he had to have kakashi make the rasengan for him whilst he does the wind chakra

... so in other words, if naruto hadda use that against sasuke
it hadda be a 2 v 1 against sasuke.. so yeah...

and that thing bout shodai
dont go there, we dont even know what happened
it could be a case of madara wtf pwning shodai and then being like hear what, i doh business tell people yu win
and den buss out

naruto is mega susceptible to the "uber hax move" ^_^ undeniable advantage of sasuke
if sasuke has to fight and beat itachi, he will undoubtedly become more itachi like
and certainly naruto cant beat itachi
so then hey... maybe kishi intends to drag this on like db gt an all that trash
and have sasuke wtf pwn naruto again...
and become like a new oro and den naruto go get a student and that student go have a sasuke esque breadren who will then take sasuke out... thus preserving the little scheme he has going

*sigh*
i cant stress how much more uber sasuke is than naruto... like... megaaa ultra uber...

for the record, only two people have taken on akatsuki solo and bested them
sasuke and the next ultra dreadest baddest mega badder dan naruto man who dont even need to be named
yeah...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 28, 2007, 11:27:33 PM
on a unrelated note!!

it have ah man on ninja warrior from a village in japan name IMBA
wtf!! how yur village go be name IMBA!! ahahah bawwww
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 29, 2007, 09:26:05 AM
No, you're definitely wrong about the rasenshuriken crixx. Naruto did the majority of his work for the actual rasenshuriken under Yamato while Kakashi went with the task force that was tracking Hidan and Kakuzu. Naruto did form a Fuuton Rasengan with Kakashi and he clashed it against Kakashi's own Rasengan but when Naruto used Rasenshuriken against Kakuzu it was the first time Kakashi ever saw it. Naruto used it three times total. First the time he messed up the execution, then he had three clones use it as a diversion, then when he used it to K.O. Kakuzu.

Jiraiya stated very boldly that it was common knowledge that Shodai beat Madara at VotE. True we don't know how he beat him or if Madara did eat some bad doubles in the morning and was feelin sick, but all we have to go on atm is that Shodai won.

You're about genjutsu of course, Naruto is highly susceptible. Despite the fact that he can simply use clones to inject chakra into himself to counter it. But that's why I said I believed the only way he has a chance atm is with tailed forms. I doubt the Kyuubi can be genjutsued.

As for fighting Akatsuki solo, technically Naruto fought Kakuzu solo. While he did lose some of his hearts in the fighting before, Naruto never tag teamed him. And Rasenshuriken would have K.O.ed him regardless of how many hearts he still had active.
And Sasuke beating Deidara was PnJ btw. He still won, but it was total bs.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 30, 2007, 07:12:41 PM
 Sasuke won't die  anytime soon, he's the 2nd most important character.

 Sasuke and Naruto are a bad match to begin with...

Sasuke will have the natural advantage of speed and agility , yes RasenganShuriken will slaughter anything in one hit , but you think naruto can catch Sasuke ?

 In a serious battle , sasuke can win by striking early , before naruto has a chance to generate too many clones / pull out kyuubi .

 As we'v seen Kabuto do , a strike to the heart will stop his ability to utilize chakra , he'll be dead ,no fox to save him...

 The sharingan can also control the Fox , as we'v seen Sasuke do before...

Ideally Naruto/Sasuke would make the best team , Sasuke to keep Naruto's fox in check and strike fast, Naruto to last long with his stamina and hit hard....
 
 Like a strength hero/ Agil hero team in Dota ....


And don't forget , Rasengan Shuriken isn't something Naruto wants to use too often , only in desperate need.

 What naruto needs to beat sasuke is to master the 4ths Flicker jutsu, and learn to combine more elements with rasengan ... You need at least 2 to be considered a Jounin..

Once he has the speed , and gets some common sense.. he can beat sasuke .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on October 30, 2007, 07:37:39 PM
and DBN continues....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 04, 2007, 11:46:22 PM
 no naruto this week at all.. probably some kind of holiday in japan
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on November 05, 2007, 01:51:28 AM
no naruto this week at all.. probably some kind of holiday in japan

yeah its called screw the fans over
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on November 05, 2007, 06:30:05 AM
"The sharingan can also control the Fox , as we'v seen Sasuke do before..."

I'm not too sure what he did there was control the fox more than it was controlling Naruto and suppressing the chakara that way. Unless you're talking about another time. I might be wrong. What chapter was that. I'd like to go back and read it.


 
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on November 06, 2007, 02:33:41 AM
the words he (Mr. Demon Fox) used were "this chakra, more cursed than my own...impossibly, you can even suppress MY chakra"
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 06, 2007, 09:17:01 PM
Considering that Tobi intends to use the power of Madara which has been hinted to controlling the tailed beasts I would have to say that chances are the most advanced form of the Sharingan (not just the Mangekyou) would be able to not just surpress kyubi but control it IF it were SUMMONED. ON the other hand, a Demon tailed Naruto is a bit different. If you recall early on with the introduction of Yamato, he mentioned to Naruto that the fact that he can survive the Kyubi chakra (other than Kyubi using the chakra to heal him) is because his own body has built up a large amount and capacity of chakra itself to protect naruto from the red type. In essence what I am hinting towards is that in the end, if if comes down to a sasuke vs. Naruto battle, Naruto will be fighting him on his own and prolly not with the help of the nine tails. That will come in Naruball-Z-GT-Unleashed....

On another note, anyone taking in the badness that is Jaraiya in Senin form? WOI!!! and Pain... still has ALOT of tricks up his sleeve we're sure, the next chp should be BOSS!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on November 06, 2007, 11:22:01 PM
I don't think Jiraya'll make it out of this one.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 07, 2007, 11:23:52 AM
I don't think Jiraya'll make it out of this one.

Nah I think he might... stress on MIGHT... perhaps he'll use a last second jutsu to save his dying pervert @$$ only to die after getting work to Konoha... or he might use some forbidden jutsu to defeat pain... or defeat SOME of pain... the man does have 6 bodies after all...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on November 07, 2007, 02:32:14 PM
oh jus kill pain outrightly

Pain jump in the dance rel brisk..jus like Kimimaru...and who knows jus like Kimimaru he makes his untimely exit...maybe
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on November 07, 2007, 04:32:25 PM
.... :( ....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 07, 2007, 06:32:52 PM
lol yu still better bout that kimimaru thing>?? lawl

de man was just a space holder till sasuke arrive, get over it already :P
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 07, 2007, 06:44:21 PM
Kimimaro was badder than Sasuke ever was.
Mind, Sasuke was always more emo than bad anyway.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 07, 2007, 06:50:37 PM
O.o and yet kimi is dead... hmm dispatched by aids no less O.o
*sigh* fan boys
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on November 07, 2007, 07:04:06 PM
hey hey hey
yes i am a kimi fanboy. yes i am a sauke fanboy. yes kimi was ended by the orochimaru exposure and not by the gaara. NO i am not bitter. they reprazent the man well enough in the game for I R, right mr ino-user? lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on November 07, 2007, 08:03:51 PM
aye anybudy remember wat episodes kimi fought drunk-lee/gaara....i feelin to watch it over
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 07, 2007, 08:36:44 PM
Drunk lee was imba... Sasuke lucky he didn't get  HIV from orochimaru like Kiminaro, condom FTW!

 OR maybe orochimaru wanted a clean , unmolested body... hmmm


 Kiminaro had a dread ability.. but he has so little depth, living and dying for orochimaru ...

Sasuke at least has a extra good reason to be messed up and scorn womankind , he's trying to be the ultimate soldier of chaos.. like Sanosuke ,no friendship bonds to tie him down...


Jiraiya might still live long enough to tell Naruto of his heritage , his destiny and to perhaps teach or ileave him a scroll on the 4ths flicker jutsu . 

 Though alot of deaths will be coming soon , i don't see Tsunadae lasting too long now that we know Kakashi is to replace her ..
   
   Also , Sakura dying might bring Sasuke back to take revenge on.. possibly Pain killing her,
   
 In literature we'd call this approaching a climax in the narrative , lots of action  happening , Naruto proving his worth and power to become hokage , sasuke achieving his goal..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on November 07, 2007, 08:52:54 PM
aye anybudy remember wat episodes kimi fought drunk-lee/gaara....i feelin to watch it over

124 forward
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on November 08, 2007, 10:17:47 AM
Drunk lee was imba... Sasuke lucky he didn't get  HIV from orochimaru like Kiminaro, condom FTW!

 OR maybe orochimaru wanted a clean , unmolested body... hmmm

LOL TTG sad man...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 09, 2007, 09:33:07 AM
 episode 33 is pretty good , we get to see our fave characters finally..

 Also we seem to have overlooked something : Naruto has the first hokage's necklace which seems to contain some special power .
 
 Bieng that the 1st hokage was the one to defeat Uchiha Madara.. there might be a connection.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 09, 2007, 11:07:43 AM
^
You don't read the manga? And you actually come into this thread? Wow boy you brave.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Xerotolerant on November 09, 2007, 12:50:47 PM
ooh don't know if anybody post this before but this is some bess speculation long (not for the adhd kids)

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=106576

there are spoilers but they hidden under lil buttons but you'll find yourself wanting to show them anyway. just a heads up.

i had nothing to do with this my partner show me it, was a good read long and for those who have imaginations and spare time.
if this speculation right then madara wasn't such a bad guy.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 10, 2007, 09:47:30 PM
 read this theory awhile ago.. thought it was crap at first but he now has alot of manga evidence to back it up , it is at least partly true : the idea for the uchiha coming from the Tengu even if none are present in the story .

Quote
According to Japanese legend, Ninja are descended from a mythical creature called Tengu, a half-man-half-crow hybrid with the power to alter nature and the minds of men.

 Sasuke's name means  ' Ninja Warrior' or a great ninja , so  his imagery is connected to the Tengu spirits .

 shows how deep Kishimoto went in making the story and art.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 10, 2007, 11:25:27 PM
The G4 show everyone loves, Ninja Warrior, is called Sasuke in Japan.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 16, 2007, 11:47:25 PM
Surprises me at how this fight is turning out , in about 2 weeks we'll see the origins of the sharingan hopefully.

Anime is taking a turn for the better , i notice the animation has some quality though the pacing is still slow . When Danzou sama was walking across the floor , the old '2d in a 3d backround' effect we'r accustomed to in big Naruto fights was there .
  Some big fights coming up in 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on November 17, 2007, 12:39:41 PM
I agree with you trini. I really like how they are animating shippuden. It really fits with the content. Much more mature.

And as per the manga, jaraiya is either about to get himself killed or at least defeat pain long enough to escape.

Either way friday can't come soon enough
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on November 17, 2007, 12:59:39 PM
...the end of the Chapter says "certain victory lies ahead"...

...but for whom?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on November 19, 2007, 11:36:29 AM
I say Pain....because...Pain is really cool



and can do summons...

with x-ray vision
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 22, 2007, 11:23:21 AM
From the spoilers i've seen.... Naruto could quite possibly be the most exciting we've seen in quite some time, even bleach and Dgrayman have REAL exciting things going on!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 22, 2007, 01:37:17 PM
I dunno what you've been reading, this current arc has been full of suck as far as I'm concerned.
Especially compared to the last two arcs, which had Kakuzu and to a lesser extent Hidan and the previous one with the amazing Naruto vs Orochimaru (I really hope Shippuden does this right).
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 22, 2007, 03:28:59 PM
Nah man, the Jaraiya vs. Pain fight has been going good so far, what yuh talking bout? Getting to see Pain in action and his... well so far 3 different styles, and he has 3 to go... come nah man
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 22, 2007, 04:08:27 PM
You honestly being impressed by Pain?
Wow, he can see from different vantage points? This is the legendary doujutsu we've heard of? I mean c'mon. What kinda crap is that. Surely we need to see the good stuff already. And these summons are lame. One man who cyah do nuthin but summon, one who could only eat (Pizza Hut go cry if he come lunchtime) and one man with taijutsu. This fight is just DRAGGING.

Compare to the Kakuzu fight or the CRAZY fight Orochimaru had.

And Kishi pullin one set of flashbacks and connections out he backside that really aren't necessary. This whole connection between Jiraiya and the kids, necessary? Don't look so. Honestly makes me wonder whether Kishi lay out the storyboards with "We are family" on repeat.
Between the ridiculous story connections, bogus 'master plan' and a fight that really needs to be over, I can't wait for this to be over. You realize how long it is since we even see Naruto?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 22, 2007, 04:14:52 PM
Come on man, first off we know this isn't even Pain's real power. The kid with the Rikodou eyes could use EVERY element which no other Shinobi can, he has divided his consciousness between 6 hosts, each with their own unique properties, he's fighting against Jaraiya's most powerful form and for all intents and purpose IS going to win. That fight with Kakuza, you REALLY think it was THAT good? it was going good up to the part where Naruto buss down his ultimate jutsu... I mean seriously a shinobi with THAT much experience would fall for a switch THAT easily? and taking into account he could have very well used all his tentacles to take out all the clone simultanesouly? then the fight with Oro, I presume Oro and Naruubi, that was decent, but how did that fight show much skill? (moresover on the part of Naruto)? that battle was to show the power of kyubi and show a TURNING point in Naruto's will to call fourth the Kyubi seeing as he injuered Sakura. I actual like the way the fight with pain is going because it shows ALOT more variety than the battles we've seen to date. The ONLY battle in recent times that is a clear head and shoulder above this is the Sasuke vs Deidara.

One more thing, considering Oro had such a 'CRAZY' fight with Naruubi, it was SUCH A SHAME to see him put down 'vitrually' in Sasuke mind :p feh
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 22, 2007, 05:51:27 PM
IMO naruto manga is still one of the best... Bleach has gotten montonous , the latest  arc is repeating  the soul society arc in the opposite direction...
 
 you go into an unkown world to save character X , get stronger.. meet up pals .. fight.. win..

  get fraid you not strong enough... get stronger in the space of an hour.. fight and win !

 For shonen , Naruto is doing a very good job of keeping the storyline interesting  ....

 


 The flashbacks to Jiraiya's past WERE necessary , though they could have been shorter..
   The latest fight is definately the largest scale yet.. when the anime reaches this point sometime next year you'll be able to appreciate the scale of the battle ...

 I'm expecting a major plot twist tomorrow , either Pain pulls Rin'Negan's true power to defeat Jiraiya , or we find out that Pain isn't the big boss, just an egocentric stooge.

Supposedly the Rin'Negan can 'unmake the world' so it does come with more than the ability to split conciousness and viewpoints..
  Like the sharingan has 3 basic abilities , hypnosis , prediction of movement and copying of jutsu...
  Byakugan can see through objects , see chakra as well as give near 360 degree vision..

 the Rin'Negan will likely have more stuff to deal with, perhaps one ability for each ring of the eye? lots of stuff left over to keep us guessing...

 Another prediction would be that Pain pulls out the clone of Yondaime , which would make the fight much more interesting.  Just as the Anikin Versus Obi Wan fight  , similar jutsu clashing...
   Rasengan versus Rasengan , similar taijutsu styles plus we'll learn about Yondaime's flicker and the other things he developed .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 23, 2007, 08:38:38 AM
O_O ..... that's all I have to say... better yet let the pictures say it all...
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5319/44924844yo4.th.jpg) (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=44924844yo4.jpg) (http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/6196/86331088zj2.th.jpg) (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=86331088zj2.jpg) (http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3601/12mu4.th.jpg) (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12mu4.jpg) (http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9834/17vh4.th.jpg) (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17vh4.jpg)

I doh care who say how bad Oro was, or how good other battles were, it's doutbful many save Pain (and perhaps a  few other Kage level nin) could have taken on Jaraiya like this and even so, Pain technically is cheating as its 6 of him vs. One. How many other nin in Naruto altogether could take on 6 Kage level nin simultaneously? Listening? who? what? didn't hear ya? Oh on another note I think Jaraiya is @#$%ED... not that we didn't expect that but... it's not often we're treated to seeing Sanin level battles... now we'll have 1 less Sanin to see fight... 2 down... 1 to go...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on November 23, 2007, 02:11:36 PM
I wonder if Jaraiya thinks hes close to death now....remember the two other times was with 4 tail Naruto and Tsunade....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 23, 2007, 02:29:53 PM
Well considering he's missing an arm and can no longer perform seals... I think right now he's closer to death... I guess at least he has Ma and Pa, but with his inability to perform much jutsu (no hand seals)... they'll need to perform something akin to what Sasuke put down with the snake... some kinda space/time jutsu to survive... either that or Jaraiya has ONE last trick up his sleeve... an ultimate jutsu as it were (though that 4 frog soul seal seemed like it) I mean... after gaining knowledge about akatsuki members esp like Hidan... yuh would think he'd have completely destroyed the bodies to ensure they couldn't come back...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on November 23, 2007, 02:35:43 PM
O_O ..... that's all I have to say... better yet let the pictures say it all...
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5319/44924844yo4.th.jpg) (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=44924844yo4.jpg) (http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/6196/86331088zj2.th.jpg) (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=86331088zj2.jpg) (http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/3601/12mu4.th.jpg) (http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12mu4.jpg) (http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9834/17vh4.th.jpg) (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17vh4.jpg)

I doh care who say how bad Oro was, or how good other battles were, it's doutbful many save Pain (and perhaps a  few other Kage level nin) could have taken on Jaraiya like this and even so, Pain technically is cheating as its 6 of him vs. One. How many other nin in Naruto altogether could take on 6 Kage level nin simultaneously? Listening? who? what? didn't hear ya? Oh on another note I think Jaraiya is @#$%ED... not that we didn't expect that but... it's not often we're treated to seeing Sanin level battles... now we'll have 1 less Sanin to see fight... 2 down... 1 to go...

Aye W1ntry what was that all about!!!! :protest:

that is real wickedness man. You coulda say DON'T CLICK THE LINK :crybaby2:

ps that is this weeks raw scan. Damn boy :happy0203:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 23, 2007, 04:02:15 PM
 damn.. didnt' expect him to go down so fast ...

 Hopefully jiraiya  kept scrolls for naruto's instruction in case of his demise .. containing whatever jutsu he needs to defeat Pain .

 Also did anyone notice ?  :

Mina to ( yondaime)
Naga to ( Pain)
Naru  to ....

 Similar syllables , probably looks similar in kanji , so the old frogs prediction may hold for all three or two of them...

  Naruto may have as much as 2 characters in common with Nagato the 'Na' and 'To' syllabes.. if someone feels like googling it or did a course in kanji they could confirm this.

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on November 24, 2007, 12:07:13 AM
As per 379 ......... DAMN!!!!

WOW!!! DAMN!!!!!

*Speechless*

DAMN...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on November 24, 2007, 12:29:28 AM
I cringed when I see that arm missing.. no more perverted hermit???

Jiraya DID leaving something for Naruto in case he was defeated.. this was just after he ticked those low level Rain guys for information the frog he summoned for such a purpose was shocked he would do such.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 26, 2007, 08:44:33 AM
This week I am sure they'll do a lil flashback OR they'll switch to Sasuke/Itachi just to prolong the suspense... its a typical Kishi move... my only hope is they don't switch to sasuke/naruto and when they switch back all we see is level carnage and Jaraiya in his dying moments... (that is also a typical move)...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 26, 2007, 08:54:48 AM
Well considering he's missing an arm and can no longer perform seals... I think right now he's closer to death... I guess at least he has Ma and Pa, but with his inability to perform much jutsu (no hand seals)... they'll need to perform something akin to what Sasuke put down with the snake... some kinda space/time jutsu to survive... either that or Jaraiya has ONE last trick up his sleeve... an ultimate jutsu as it were (though that 4 frog soul seal seemed like it) I mean... after gaining knowledge about akatsuki members esp like Hidan... yuh would think he'd have completely destroyed the bodies to ensure they couldn't come back...

itachi and others can do one hand seals

maybe ole frog face pervo boy can too


it would be nice if his most ultimate final jutsu was something perverted...lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on November 26, 2007, 09:05:46 AM
6 paths of pain......... :dropjaw: :dropjaw:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 26, 2007, 09:25:36 AM
Haku could do one handed seals as well, an he was jus a lil youth.
If nothing else Jiraiya could certainly still do Rasengan. Though if it was me I'd summon Gamabunta an tell him to get me the **** outta there.

But if nothing else at least Naruto will get the key, let's just hope he knows what to do with it.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 26, 2007, 09:42:36 AM
But if nothing else at least Naruto will get the key, let's just hope he knows what to do with it.
Does he EVER know what to do? *shakes head* our only hope on that front is the fact that he learned kage bushin from a forbidden scroll in a matter or minutes... whether he'll be able to comprehend exactly what that scroll contains... remains to be seen...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on November 26, 2007, 10:11:57 AM
I'm just saying, if jaraiya had to break out all of his secrets to defeat 3 pains, how in d bageezes name he beating six!

now jaraiya is my fav character, followed by the legendary 4th(Who i think would whoop pains butt like if he was a baby)

but i don't think jaraiya could get out of this one alive. And I do believe in the one handed seals thing, but 3 pains take

everything, six, nah boy. Kishi evil. Jaraiya should look pain square in the eye, then run... run, run, run. My poor ero-sennin
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 26, 2007, 10:38:40 AM
Does he EVER know what to do? *shakes head* our only hope on that front is the fact that he learned kage bushin from a forbidden scroll in a matter or minutes... whether he'll be able to comprehend exactly what that scroll contains... remains to be seen...

I don't think Kage Bunshin comes even close to this. Unless that frog can explain it all to him he better rest that thing down and not touch it next thing you know he trigger 6 tail or seven tail by accident and mash up Konoha.

There's one interesting bit though, he could technically decide to reseal up the Kyuubi. Unlike Jiraiya, Naruto wouldn't know or even be able to speculate on any master plan Minato had in sealing the Kyuubi the way he did. Naruto is in fact quite pissed at Kyuubi for nearly killing Sakura. If the frog tells him that the seal was weakened intentionally by Jiraiya and that they could 'sew it back up', would he choose to do so?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on November 26, 2007, 11:10:45 AM
Yea but if he seals the Kyuubi back up then what?


Rely on he own strength and super brain power to defeat he next opponent?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 26, 2007, 11:21:35 AM
That's what he's been doing ever since his fight with Orochimaru fight if you recall.
He was happy freely accepting Kyuubi's help when it cost him nothing but he's not going to put Sakura in danger again.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 26, 2007, 11:27:46 AM
Actually you're not completely right, after his little spat with oro and damaging sakura, he has subsequently relied on Kyubi chakra, namely to develop the RasenShiruken! noted however is that he was under the STRICT supervision of Yamato and as memory serves me he went multi-tail or at least tried to in said training. So actually he has used it and will continue to use it most likely, that aside against PAIN it's VERY doubtful that even a 3 tails Kyubi would do much good. So the decision to seal up the Kyubi completely is a bit out of the question if he wants to protect those he cares about from Akatsuki... more likely is he'll have to look deeper in the Kyubi forms, as Jaraiya pointed out, he only unlocked the DARK or YANG (Or is it YING) part of the Kyubi chakra..

THe ONLY way this makes sense to me (extrapolating from the 4th's intentions and the discussion with the scroll frog and jaraiya) is that Minato knows that only the dark chakra of Kyubi is dangerous and as such exposing Naruto to it so that he would develop not only a resistance and improve his own chakra reserves to combat said red chakra but the eventuality is that once he has the ability to completely control the DARK chakra, he can then unlock the LIGHT chakra for his ONE TWO punch. A boost in power that is good with the arsenal that the dark chakra (under naruto's control)  to add to the frey making naruto powerful beyond belief... its a theory that just came to me but hey if it comes to pass, just remmeber where yuh heard it first!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 26, 2007, 11:42:28 AM
Yang is good. The Ying chakra is all sealed up.

But Naruto wasn't using Kyuubi chakra to do his fuuton training. His transformation to tail and multi-tailed forms was because of the concentration he had to put out when he was training. One of the clones would get frustrated and that would start the transformation. If you look at the rest of the clones they don't even exhibit the characteristics of 0TK. And Naruto himself doesn't show those signs when he's uses the finished product on Kakuzu.

I think that Minato envisioned an eventual blending of Naruto with the Kyuubi's yang chakra. I'm thinking something along the lines of Hiei and his Jao Ensatsu Kokuryuha (Dragon of the Darkness Flame) in the sense that Naruto will assimilate the Kyuubi into himself and be able to call upon it without it hurting him.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on November 26, 2007, 12:47:09 PM
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Naruto will assimilate the Kyuubi into himself and be able to call upon it without it hurting him.

then...that is total utter badness..who'd be strong enough to fight that?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on November 26, 2007, 12:54:00 PM
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Naruto will assimilate the Kyuubi into himself and be able to call upon it without it hurting him.

then...that is total utter badness..who'd be strong enough to fight that?

Tony Jaa, of course.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 26, 2007, 12:58:03 PM
Actually he was using the kyubi chakra and Yamato was suppressing the transformation, its the only way Naruto could continuously make that many Kage Bushins for the training. Go back and check you'll see.

Oh one more thing... I am thinking that Pain could quite possibly make Jariaya a new HOST body O_O then he could infiltrate Konoha not to mention do TREMENDOUS damage with Jaraiya's abilities O_O
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on November 26, 2007, 01:29:54 PM
Actually, it was Naruto's own chakra he was using during that training. From the explanation it was something along the lines of Naruto's own chakra becoming alot stronger than normal because of the kyubi chakra, holding it back constantly with his. And it was accidental transformations is that yamato had to prevent, i'll go re-read it abit later when i get home.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 26, 2007, 01:43:37 PM
I did re-read it before I made the post, unless I skipped over a key panel somewhere.
If you notice, Naruto only goes into a Kyuubi mode higher than what he can naturally bring out when his life is in danger or when he's very angry. The former we see in 0TK and 1TK against Sasuke and the latter his 0TK and then all tailed transformations in Shippuden. It's the anger of an individual clone that was triggering a tailed form and as Proto said, Yamato was there to suppress that.

They showed several panels on the transformation. The clone would go into 0TK with the trademark deepening of the marks on his face then the chakra would come bubbling out. While Naruto's own chakra naturally mixes with and is augmented by the Kyuubi's chakra he isn't strictly using a 'Kyuubi form' until he's in 0TK or higher. And he never willingly went to that level at any point in his training. 0TK was always immediately followed by a multi-tail stage.

As for who could beat Naruto-Kyuubi, somebody will pop up.
Who could beat SSJ Goku?
Who could beat Demon Yusuke?
In shonen it always have a man hidin somewhere who gonna pop out when the time is right. From the way things look right now, Orochimaru will be back in the next timeskip so who knows what kinda madness he can do. Absorb all the other 8 Bijuu if I had to guess.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on November 26, 2007, 02:40:32 PM
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As for who could beat Naruto-Kyuubi, somebody will pop up.

NO ONE!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 30, 2007, 06:21:40 PM
super sasuke itachi battle on de way w000t

and alyuh talkin real trash

during his training for rasenshuriken waste of time move
he did need kyuubi chakura and yamato was there to prevent him from transforming

just like winny said
ill go back and provide the proof as well
again, dont let the fanboyism cloud ur judgement
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 30, 2007, 06:38:13 PM
He didn't. I keep all the chapters saved on my pc and I checked it. But feel free to prove me wrong using manga panels. Something wrong with you if you think rasenshuriken is a waste of time too, most advanced ninjutsu ever and all that.
Aside from that though...

Hello! This week's chapter is what I was waiting for. Sasuke v Itachi, Kisame v Suigetsu and Tobi v rel man. Things gonna get interesting now.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 30, 2007, 07:04:58 PM
lol @ most advanced ninjutsu ever ahahahahah
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on November 30, 2007, 07:16:15 PM
Why the frig is this manga so cool!!!!!

380 is the most exiting thing i read in a long time. It seems every chapter is getting better and better.

Its finally about to happen. Sasuke vs itachi. I think that will be the last fight of the 3 for us to see the ending.

edit

And i think crixx just likes to push ppls buttons  :shakehead:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 30, 2007, 08:24:34 PM
lol @ most advanced ninjutsu ever ahahahahah

lol @ the weight of proof behind all your reasonings.
Kakashi stated that he believed Naruto would be the only person able to create a jutsu higher than S-rank.
Four people can do rasengan: Naruto, Kakashi, Jiraiya and Minato. The latter 3 are 3 of the best ninjas in the Narutoverse. None can fuse an element to rasengan. Jiraiya can make a rasengan big as a small van but he can't fuse an element into it.
Rasenshuriken = most advanced ninjutsu = confirmed.

But please keep up the joke posts.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on November 30, 2007, 08:36:42 PM
OH SNAP dis looks like it could escalate into a NGNT4 challenge

I THERE!

I THERE ALREADY!!1

WTF did I just say oh snap?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 30, 2007, 08:40:57 PM
RIP jiraiya ..

 looks like that guy who resembled yondaime wasn't him after all...

 Pain was obviously meant to be naruto's nemesis , six bodies won't be too huge a problem with his army of clones , plus unlike sasuke or itachi , Pain's bodies so far don't seem so fast than naruto can't catch them .


It seems whatever Obito/Tobi is  may be a ghost , as naruto went right through him but the body wasn't destroyed like a normal clone...

 Maybe he is a resurrection of Obito , or even Uchiha madara , that is partly phased out of our universe so you can't hit him ( anyone who watches stargate will know what i mean).

I doubt Itachi will die, he can sacrifice his eyesight bussing MS if he has to defeat Sasuke , plus i believe the whole plan was to unlock 3 MS , Sasuke , Him and Kakashi in order to achieve some further goal.. like unlock that demon the uchiha are supposedly descended from.

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 30, 2007, 09:39:11 PM
nah i dont think its anything ghostly as such

i think he can control his bodies density
super hard or thin like air

also the 3 MS user plan does not  involve kakashi
not likely

it would be the brothers and tobi
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 30, 2007, 10:04:22 PM
I doubt Itachi will die, he can sacrifice his eyesight bussing MS if he has to defeat Sasuke , plus i believe the whole plan was to unlock 3 MS , Sasuke , Him and Kakashi in order to achieve some further goal.. like unlock that demon the uchiha are supposedly descended from.

The whole idea though is that Sasuke is supposed to be able to resist MS. That's what Itachi was telling Kakashi, only someone with kekkei genkai can do it.
One thing though, I don't think Kakashi is the 2nd MS user, not that Itachi described anyway. He told Sasuke that after he killed the clan, but Kakashi said that his MS was "something new" when he was going to use it against Deidara.
I can't imagine what might have happened to unlock it during the time skip but that evidence doesn't point to him being the 2nd that Itachi had mentioned.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 01, 2007, 09:32:31 AM
but itachi did try to kidnap kakashi once..  we'll see as things play out .

 Either Tobi will take Kakashi for his eye (which might really be tobi's) or just try to delay them till the Sasuke/Itachi fight is complete .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 01, 2007, 10:50:20 AM
But when he wanted to take him before it was because Kakashi said he knew about akatsuki, so they probably wanted to interrogate him.

I think we're making a big assumption though that Tobi only has a single sharingan. While it matches up with what we've seen, assuming he only has one would bring us back to the now defunct Obito theory.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 06, 2007, 12:35:39 PM
Goodbye Ero-Senin... *W1nTry weeps bitterly in a corner*
http://rapidshare.com/files/74850520/n281raw.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/74850520/n281raw.zip)

Lawd... making my job hard eh :p anys that's the RAW I changed the above link to...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on December 07, 2007, 02:07:26 AM
Don't link to imagevenue.

Save the image the upload it to imageshack because image venue does stupid sh*t.

Like replacing the image you intended to link with the magazine cover image of a woman eating ice cream.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 07, 2007, 09:08:47 AM
Also... GG the 3 main manga I read are GOING GREAT atm... Naruto, Bleach AND DGrayman... all have TONNES of action going on... its a nice xmas gift imho.... Jaraiya... I hope we get to hear from him (or his thoughts for that matter) on who Pain really is... but it seems his run out of luck... still if the 3 sanin were together I suspect noone could stop them... but such are only dreams...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on December 07, 2007, 11:16:08 AM
I wonder if pain is going to take his body? That would be interesting.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 07, 2007, 12:39:24 PM
well rapidshare limit reached
guess ill just go look for it elsewhere
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 07, 2007, 01:21:47 PM
I wonder if pain is going to take his body? That would be interesting.
Based on the fact that Pain also seems to be able to use the abilities of those he takes over... wouldn't that mean he'd be able to summon gamabunta? O_O imagine the CARNAGE of a PAIN controlled Jaraiya..... Of course let's not completely count Jaraiya out yet (yeah I know its wishful thinking but he did come to a revalation at the 11th hour... so we may yet get a word or two outta him yet...) or some 11:59:59 hour jutsu to stop pain.....(yeah I know its unbelieveable wishful thinking) but hey Jaraiya is/was a REAL BOSS!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 07, 2007, 10:14:04 PM
Well summoning Gamabunta and actually using him are two different things. Gamabunta is a partner to Jiraiya, his only real boss was Minato.
I'm actually kinda disappointed by this week's chapter, those three fights they teased us with last week had me psyched for some carnage rather than detective work.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 08, 2007, 01:07:30 AM
there is no 'stopping pain' the only options are running away and dying.. pain is too strong to be taken on one on one as we'v seen, a whole konoha force like what kakashi is working with might do the job if jiraiya is leading it .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on December 10, 2007, 09:08:21 AM
CAN'T STOP THE PAIN!!!

*runs around with a 'Pain for Prime Minister' tee shirt*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 10, 2007, 04:42:52 PM
Naruto will be the one to take him. Six Narutos have more potential than six Pains. Seeing as how each of Naruto's clones will have their full abilities.

Naruto just needs to get over his suckage and he's set lol. And I'm guessing that frog is going to go a long way to getting him over said suckage.
THAT jutsu ihmc.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 10, 2007, 05:15:40 PM
so exar
yu saying naruto badda dan jiraiya?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 10, 2007, 06:10:56 PM
Are you saying there's no way that he's badder than Jiraiya? He's no Sannin but he's superior in some ways and his potential is undeniably higher.

Tailed forms. He nearly killed Jiraiya with 4 tail. He's getting the key soon so he can do what he wants with the seal now. He could conceivably six tail somebody ass. While he will lose control at that level he's going to get better and better at controlling tailed forms so it's only a matter of time.

Rasenshuriken. Jiraiya can make a Rasengan the size of a small maxi but Naruto's is still undeniably better. Most advanced ninjutsu shown so far.

Shadow clones. Naruto is THE perfect fight for Pain since he's the only person that can potentially fight all six forms. And a Naruto clone is more functional than a Pain body.

Jiraiya is going to die. Exactly who did you think was going to finish Pain? He isn't lasting till the next time skip, believe it! Surely you don't think Tsunade or Kakashi going to beat him?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 10, 2007, 06:47:21 PM
kakashi maybe

as for almost killing jiraiya
was jiraiya trying to kill naruto? no of course not
if he wanted to, obviously he could snuff his lights out most easily.

Naruto is NOT better than jiraiya, i dont think too highly of jiraiya and even so, hes far better than shitsnake naruto

as for rasenshuriken
yu keep talking bout it as if naruto can do the damn thing without kakashi or jiraiya at hand!
dont forget that! hes still a pottong

so who ever he is fighting with rasenshuriken it will always be a gank

and i also believe whatever hidden jutsu sasuke has been holding back on, is superior to the rasenshuriken
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on December 10, 2007, 07:14:26 PM
LOL  @ crixx


as for almost killing jiraiya
was jiraiya trying to kill naruto? no of course not
if he wanted to, obviously he could snuff his lights out most easily.



"If Naruto wanted to kill Sasuke he coulda just summon Gamabunta and say " KEEL", but Naruto didn't want to kill Sasuke" <--- old argument that was discussed to death after the Naruto Sasuke fight which Crixx LOLed off cause he's the biggest Sasuke fanboy around. 

fast forward 2007.....Crixx using the same "excuse" that people used after Naruto fought Sasuke and lost.

How times have changed...



Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on December 10, 2007, 07:42:18 PM
some ppl are better suited to fight others

eg

Gaara vs Sasuke = Bad Match
     
Gaara vs Naruto = Perfect Batch

exar made some really good points. and i agree with all of it. Undoubtedly he has the potential to be better than jaraiya
even if at this point he is only 1/5 as good.

Umm crixx, the name of the manga is NARUTO my brother, not Sasuke

So it is comprehensible that naruto will be able to gain the power necessary to defeat pain

Probably if it was called sasuke, then he would be able to do it.



Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 10, 2007, 08:37:36 PM
but its two diff situations rb

naruto an sasuke were battling

jiraiya and naruto werent fighting
jiraiya was just training the boy
thats why iam saying that exar cant use naruto almost kiling him as an example of naruto's skill
its not like they were fighting and naruto was able to almost out best him!

its like jiraiya was holding up a practice mit for naruto to do punches into
and instead naruto throws a grenade at him
not the same as almost beating him in a fight now is it?>

and lol @ naruto summoning gama bunta and making him kill sasuke
steups
absurd idea from naruto silly fanboys
it woulda have a half dead fox an a half dead frog on de grong after de fight
das all
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 10, 2007, 09:09:31 PM
Lol at the idea that Kakashi would stand half a chance in hell against Pain. The same Kakashi that Itachi slap around. The same Itachi that ran with Kisame in tow from Jiraiya. Really now.

And using Jiraiya versus 4-tail is completely legitimate. Because we have another example of someone fighting 4-tail without the intent to kill. Orochimaru was fighting the four tail for kicks and he got away unscathed when he decided he was fed up.
Your grenade analogy is total rubbish too since Jiraiya would have clearly seen the transformation happening and also the loss of control that came from the 4th tail. Is not like he get ambush when he was sleeping.

Your Rasenshuriken argument once against comes to nought seeing as how neither Kakashi nor Jiraiya have a thing to do with Naruto forming a Rasenshuriken after he knows how to do it. I certainly didn't see them spinning chakra with the clones.

As for your next statement, that Sasuke is hiding a superior jutsu, you're making a very erroneous assumption: that Sasuke is a genius greater than Naruto. He isn't. So sorry but it's true. Sasuke is smarter, more creative but Naruto has consistently shown a level of ability when it comes to performing jutsus that is far higher than anything Sasuke can do.

BTS
Naruto learned Kage Bunshin (A- rank jutsu) before he was even a genin, and learned it in an evening to boot. Sasuke has nothing comparable.
Naruto could do Kage level summons even before the chuunin exams were over. Sasuke never showed that ability until PTS.
Sasuke did learn an A-rank ninjutsu, Chidori in three months yes. And Naruto learned Rasengan (also A-rank) in what? A couple weeks? Not to mention he did most of the training on his own, not having his hand held like Kakashi did for Sasuke, just basic guidelines from Jiraiya. Rasengan is also much more impressive than Chidori as a jutsu goes.
Jutsu it took the 4th HOKAGE 3 years to create > Jutsu Kakashi invented when he was 13

PTS
Sasuke created alot of chidori variants and while creative, none of which are really on an empirically higher level of power than Chidori itself. Naruto on the other hand had Oodama Ransegan, which is in itself an S-rank ninjutsu.
And of course Naruto learns Rasenshuriken, the highest level ninjutsu to ever exist by this point in time.

Now then we can see very clearly that Naruto is far more adept at learning high level jutsu than Sasuke. And even then it took him I think 20 years of training to master Rasenshuriken. Sasuke had 3 years, the length of the time skip, to go higher. I don't think so.


Now then, even if it *is* better, Naruto still holds the trump card. Because he has his own 'that jutsu', a jutsu that is more than just heavily implied to have to do with controlling the entire breath of the Kyuubi chakra sealed within him. So whatever crap Sasuke comes up with will be overshadowed *again*.

I don't mind taking on a Sasuke fanboy but you gonna have to come better than you've been coming so far.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 11, 2007, 08:47:58 AM
my rasenshuriken argument comes to nought?? what???
yu such a fan boy yu ignoring the fact that he cant do a damn rasenshuriken without kakashi or jiraiya doing a rasengan for him to mix the wind chakura with??? you forget that already???


lol @ at all that nonsense yu just said about naruto being superior?? ahahahahh
like yu forget bout a small ting called sharingan??? lol and all the hidden secrets behind it??
lol once again yu trying to sound as if naruto is better than oro, jiraiya, sasuke and itachi put together, which is truth and infact IMPOSSIBLE@!!.

also, u you go on to harp on what they showed us naruto learned from pervert hermit dude

what in the blue hell do yu think sasuke learned from the greatest of the sanin??? lol
the s*** oro taught sasuke would boggle narutos mind!!
and lol at the notion that naruto has more potential to learn more high ranked jutsus than sasuke!! neverrrr sharingan plus juin 2 chakura fuh tuh wuh!!!

yu seem to forget how much they focus on naruto and show us EVERYTHING HE HAS LEARNED
which ... sadly.. results in what? finaly learning some control and modifying 2 jutsus.

where as, sasuke has absorbed the entire breadth of oros VASTTTTTTTTTTTTTT learnings!!
if naruto could have learned all of jiraiyas secrets, coupled with having the fox, YES he would be quite formidable, BUT he couldnt have cause hes a fragging noob!!
where as sasuke is a bonafide GENIUS ANDDDDD he has teh sharingan!! hellllloooooooo the most haxxed eye dojutsu everrrrrzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

time space jutsu = farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr greater than 90% of what nartuto can do!!

and lol @ his damn clones, as we saw in the past, sasuke= greater than naruto + clones
lol lol lol
fanboyism running wildddddd


the point of naruto is not to prove that he is a superior ninja!! CAUSE HES NOT!! SASUKE IS SUPERIOR IN EVERY RESPECT AS A NINJA!!

the point of naruto is to pull a rabbit out of his a$$ when the time comes and do the whole "yogi believe in the heart of the cards" and draw exodia out of no fliccking where!! thats naruto's bit!!
HES NOTTTTTTTT GOOOOOOODDDDDDDDD GET OVERRRRRRRRR ITTTTTTTTTTTTTT!@!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 11, 2007, 08:59:51 AM
Before I even put my 2c lemme just say I am a fan of Jaraiya and even so i'll be objective with this and this is how I see it

Lol at the idea that Kakashi would stand half a chance in hell against Pain. The same Kakashi that Itachi slap around. The same Itachi that ran with Kisame in tow from Jiraiya. Really now.
Just because Itachi ran does mean he was afraid or thought that he would get pwned by Jaraiya, the way I see it YES Jaraiya is enough of a BAD@$$ to kill them both, however from Itachi's standpoint it was not worth the trouble to go head to head with the Sanin cause it would undoubtedly be a tremendous battle potentially causing more harm to Sasuke in the process as he was in the middle of the battleground so to speak. Itachi knew he had alot of time to get Naruto and there was no real need to over exert themselves so soon. That in mind Kakasi vs. Pain, I do think he'd get pwned but I think Kakashi could take out one or two bodies, he's not a candidate for Hokage FOR NOTHING!


And using Jiraiya versus 4-tail is completely legitimate. Because we have another example of someone fighting 4-tail without the intent to kill. Orochimaru was fighting the four tail for kicks and he got away unscathed when he decided he was fed up.
Your grenade analogy is total rubbish too since Jiraiya would have clearly seen the transformation happening and also the loss of control that came from the 4th tail. Is not like he get ambush when he was sleeping.
I have to agree with the grenade comment. Oro might have been playing de @$$ HOWEVER he did reach his limit in doing so and had to pull out all the stops to save his @$$ from getting fried whereas Naruubi was still building up, had that fight prolonged much more Oro would have been in FAR worse condition than Jaraiya. And Oro DID TRY TO KILL Naruubi or have you forgotten the sword that COULD NOT penetrate Naruubi? Jaraiya would have had no killing intent towards the 4 tails and as such not use his more powerful jutsu's to subdue the beast. In fact it would suffice to say that Jaraiya received MOST of his wounds from trying to get CLOSE ENOUGH to Naruto to place the seal on his forehead to subdue him rather than going SENIN mode and dropping an Ultimate Rasengan on Naruto head.


Your Rasenshuriken argument once against comes to nought seeing as how neither Kakashi nor Jiraiya have a thing to do with Naruto forming a Rasenshuriken after he knows how to do it. I certainly didn't see them spinning chakra with the clones.
I agree with this, Naruto doh need noone to pull off this jutsu, just it does more damage than good unfortunately.

As for your next statement, that Sasuke is hiding a superior jutsu, you're making a very erroneous assumption: that Sasuke is a genius greater than Naruto. He isn't. So sorry but it's true. Sasuke is smarter, more creative but Naruto has consistently shown a level of ability when it comes to performing jutsus that is far higher than anything Sasuke can do.
I also believe that Sasuke IS still hiding a more powerful Jutsu, possibly a combination of fire and electric chakra manipulation. Sasuke IS a Genius whereas Naruto doesn't really fall into that 'typical' classification as he's NEVER been referred to as that in the ENTIRE series to my best recollection. I would rather say that Naruto is actually more creative (remember since the days of Zabuza) and Sasuke is FAR better at EFFECTIVELY using Jutsu that he knows. Naruto is the #1 un-predictable nin for petes sake! I also do NOT agree with the comment about the LEVEL of jutsu as sasuke's shape and nature manipulation rival that of Naruto. Sure we've NOT seen a jutsu with the destructive power of the Rasenshiruken, but that's not to say he can't do it.

BTS
Naruto learned Kage Bunshin (A- rank jutsu) before he was even a genin, and learned it in an evening to boot. Sasuke has nothing comparable.
Naruto could do Kage level summons even before the chuunin exams were over. Sasuke never showed that ability until PTS.
Sasuke did learn an A-rank ninjutsu, Chidori in three months yes. And Naruto learned Rasengan (also A-rank) in what? A couple weeks? Not to mention he did most of the training on his own, not having his hand held like Kakashi did for Sasuke, just basic guidelines from Jiraiya. Rasengan is also much more impressive than Chidori as a jutsu goes.
Jutsu it took the 4th HOKAGE 3 years to create > Jutsu Kakashi invented when he was 13
And since his learning Kage Bushin... what other Jutsu have we seen him use? waiting? what? where? how? right.... I think that Naruto is great and I think he has alot of potential and now with the use of 1000 clone cramming technique he has a GREAT tool to learn at a RIDICULOUS rate, however it was imho something kishi cooked up (half baked) to give Naruto something comparable to the GAME SHARK that sasuke has stuck in his head aka the SHARINGAN. Fact remains that Naruto cannot copy a jutsu on the fly and he cannot effectively use an opponents OWN jutsu against them in the matter of seconds or minutes that Sasuke can. In the long run I think they are BOTH capable of learning a RIDICULOUS amount of High level jutsu, however a direct apples to apples comparison is a bit stupid and more like apples to pineapples

PTS
Sasuke created alot of chidori variants and while creative, none of which are really on an empirically higher level of power than Chidori itself. Naruto on the other hand had Oodama Ransegan, which is in itself an S-rank ninjutsu.
And of course Naruto learns Rasenshuriken, the highest level ninjutsu to ever exist by this point in time.
It is NOT the highest level ninjutsu to exist, its merely the highest level jutsu that we've been shown. What would you call Ameretsu? chicken $hit? the point I am making here is akin to what I said above, Sasuke is MUCH better at mastering Jutsu that he knows whereas Naruto has shown his ability to increase the POWER of the jutsu he's learnt which having the FOX does HELP to say the least. He has the Chakra reserves to do the things he does. Also what would you call the Death God summon both the 3rd and 4th put down? you want power, try those on for size.

Now then we can see very clearly that Naruto is far more adept at learning high level jutsu than Sasuke. And even then it took him I think 20 years of training to master Rasenshuriken. Sasuke had 3 years, the length of the time skip, to go higher. I don't think so.
Exactly, how does 20 years of training vs. 3 show that Naruto has surpassed Sasuke in his ability to master Jutsu? Naruto just has the 'convenient' use of MASS clones. But let me not repeat myself.

Now then, even if it *is* better, Naruto still holds the trump card. Because he has his own 'that jutsu', a jutsu that is more than just heavily implied to have to do with controlling the entire breath of the Kyuubi chakra sealed within him. So whatever crap Sasuke comes up with will be overshadowed *again*.
I agree and disagree with this. Seeing as Madara has been indicated to have the ability to control the Kyubi, what does this imply for someone who masters and harnesses the full power of the Sharingan? What I am getting at is, can anyone else see how Kishi equals the playing field? naruto has the Kyubi, Sasuke has a bloodline to control the Kyubi. We've already seen him SUPPRESS the Kyubi chakra INSIDE NARUTO HEAD! the way i see it, the idea is that Sasuke would have to use his Sharingan to keep Kyubi at bay in the process using alot of power and Naruto not having the Kyubi would use his own skill, thereby negating both the sharingan and the Kyubi in an 'ultimate final' battle. So that each would have to use the skill and own normal (if it can be called that) strength and power.


I don't mind taking on a Sasuke fanboy but you gonna have to come better than you've been coming so far.
I like both characters, Naruto AND sasuke they both have great characteristics of their own. Whilst I think your argument might be slightly better than a 'sasuke fanboy' I also don't think your's or even mine are completely the all end all. We all have our opinions but same way I see flaws in your argument you will undoubtedly see flaws in mine.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 11, 2007, 09:04:02 AM
I am about to do something that mods and staff at large usually have a problem with, but in this case its DEMANDING OF IT:
my rasenshuriken argument comes to nought?? what???
yu such a fan boy yu ignoring the fact that he cant do a damn rasenshuriken without kakashi or jiraiya doing a rasengan for him to mix the wind chakura with??? you forget that already???

Crixx where did you even REMOTELY get this MISCONSTRUED notion that Naruto needs ANYONE ELSE to do the Rasenshiruken???? I don't even know how its POSSIBLE for you to think that? kakashi wasn't even AROUND when Naruto started his initial steps to using it. It was YAMATO who was around and to top that off Naruto increased its size, strength and power under YAMATO NOT KAKASHI. I doh even know why I bothering to say this where/when have Kakashi or Jaraiya for that matter EVER had to help naruto perform a rasengan FAR LESS a Rasenshiruken? ??????????
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 11, 2007, 09:28:57 AM
well besides the double posting ( :P )
u too seem to have forgotten in that fight against that string akatsuki guy when kakashi made a rasengan and naruto did the wind manipulation and the pressed them together and naruto formed the rasen non shuriken shuriken???

like did yall conveniently get amnesia at that point???
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 11, 2007, 09:35:39 AM
Crixx I think you need to get your glasses rechecked, the only way to settle this is going to be a picture. Let's see exactly what you're talking about cause noone else save you seems to remember EVER seeing that O_o
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 11, 2007, 10:07:39 AM
Crixx, W1nTry already dealt with that ridiculous rasenshuriken statement you made and other than that there's no actual attempt to fight my arguments other than "ZOMG tis so because I say it is!" so I can't really rebut a point that hasn't even been made.


That in mind Kakasi vs. Pain, I do think he'd get pwned but I think Kakashi could take out one or two bodies, he's not a candidate for Hokage FOR NOTHING!

I wouldn't even give him that much credit tbh. Just putting him that high already means having him exceed Jiraiya's capabilities.
As for the last, he's a Hokage candidate because he's the best they have left. I mean it's either him or Gai the way I see it. Obvious choice there.


I have to agree with the grenade comment. Oro might have been playing de @$$ HOWEVER he did reach his limit in doing so and had to pull out all the stops to save his @$$ from getting fried whereas Naruubi was still building up, had that fight prolonged much more Oro would have been in FAR worse condition than Jaraiya. And Oro DID TRY TO KILL Naruubi or have you forgotten the sword that COULD NOT penetrate Naruubi? Jaraiya would have had no killing intent towards the 4 tails and as such not use his more powerful jutsu's to subdue the beast. In fact it would suffice to say that Jaraiya received MOST of his wounds from trying to get CLOSE ENOUGH to Naruto to place the seal on his forehead to subdue him rather than going SENIN mode and dropping an Ultimate Rasengan on Naruto head.

You're forgetting another factor though, Oro's body was starting to fail. That's why he left, not because he reached his 100% limit. I'll remind you that very shortly after this he was actually on his deathbed unable to do basically anything such that he was easy prey for Sasuke.
Also I don't think his Kusanagi strike was meant to be killing either. 4TK had proven itself tough enough that he had to try something to actually score some points on his own. He says both before the fight and when he decides to withdraw that the entire thing was 'playtime'.
Lastly you mention Jiraiya being wounded from trying to put the seal on him, but you'll notice that Oro would have been able to do that very early in the fight if he wanted to since he puts his fist in 4TK's face. This is Oro in a dying body as well. So it's not like he was trying to do anything so drastically different from what Orochimaru was capable of doing.


I also believe that Sasuke IS still hiding a more powerful Jutsu, possibly a combination of fire and electric chakra manipulation. Sasuke IS a Genius whereas Naruto doesn't really fall into that 'typical' classification as he's NEVER been referred to as that in the ENTIRE series to my best recollection. I would rather say that Naruto is actually more creative (remember since the days of Zabuza) and Sasuke is FAR better at EFFECTIVELY using Jutsu that he knows. Naruto is the #1 un-predictable nin for petes sake! I also do NOT agree with the comment about the LEVEL of jutsu as sasuke's shape and nature manipulation rival that of Naruto. Sure we've NOT seen a jutsu with the destructive power of the Rasenshiruken, but that's not to say he can't do it.

It's unreasonable to think that Sasuke can surpass Rasenshuriken quite frankly in terms of pure difficulty. It took Naruto 20 years to learn to do it and it's a jutsu that neither Minato nor Jiraiya nor Kakashi was ever able to do.
Sasuke's chakra abilities also have NOT been shown to be level with Naruto. Rasengan is spatial manipulation of the highest order and Sasuke cannot do anything comparable. The facts simply do not show him as ever having a learning and execution capability for jutsus that exceeded Naruto's.
Whatever Sasuke is likely to come up with in future is more sharingan hax. And even then my point is that his 'that jutsu' will be crushed by the power of Naruto's 'that jutsu'.

Fact remains that Naruto cannot copy a jutsu on the fly and he cannot effectively use an opponents OWN jutsu against them in the matter of seconds or minutes that Sasuke can. In the long run I think they are BOTH capable of learning a RIDICULOUS amount of High level jutsu, however a direct apples to apples comparison is a bit stupid and more like apples to pineapples

Sharingan copying wheel still has limits. Sasuke is limited by what his body can legitimately do. All he will learn is the method through reading the handsigns (one reason why rasengan apparently can't be copied).
Sasuke's body simply is not able to do rasenshuriken or something or a similar nature. It's past his limit. He doesn't have the chakra reserves. Think about it this way, Sasuke's chidori limit during chuunin exams was TWO. On the other hand when Naruto was learning rasengan he was spinning chakra whole day and has never been shown to have a limit on how many he can do.
PTS we know he has the capacity to do several thousand rasengans AT LEAST. And yet he can do THREE Rasenshurikens. How can Sasuke compare to the power of Naruto's latent Kyuubi chakra?

It is NOT the highest level ninjutsu to exist, its merely the highest level jutsu that we've been shown. What would you call Ameretsu? chicken $hit? the point I am making here is akin to what I said above, Sasuke is MUCH better at mastering Jutsu that he knows whereas Naruto has shown his ability to increase the POWER of the jutsu he's learnt which having the FOX does HELP to say the least. He has the Chakra reserves to do the things he does. Also what would you call the Death God summon both the 3rd and 4th put down? you want power, try those on for size.

I'm not trying to push a position, it's been pretty much stated. Kakashi said it himself, Naruto will be the person to create a jutsu higher than S-rank. Then he started teaching him the steps for Rasenshuriken. Rasenshuriken is higher than S-rank. Everything else is S-rank or lower.
People are forgetting that three of the most brilliant minds in the Narutoverse, including the proclaimed "Greatest Ninja Konoha ever created", have failed to create this jutsu.

Exactly, how does 20 years of training vs. 3 show that Naruto has surpassed Sasuke in his ability to master Jutsu? Naruto just has the 'convenient' use of MASS clones. But let me not repeat myself.

What I'm saying is this, Naruto has demonstrated that he is superior to Sasuke when it comes to learning new jutsu. This is not debatable. Rasengan is a couple weeks? Sasuke doing Chidori against Gaara had everyone marvelling at his new power. Naruto using Rasengan against Kabuto had Orochimaru abandoning his battle with Jiraiya specifically to kill Naruto because the fact that he could learn rasengan showed how dangerous he was.
Given this fact, how is Sasuke supposed to have created something in 3 years grater than something that took Naruto 20? It doesn't add up in a mathematical sense.
I agree that clone learning was made up on the spot to give Naruto an edge. But it's there. It's no different from harping on about Sharingan, which has had so many abilities pulled out it's ass that Santa might want to consider stocking presents for all the world's children there. Tons of room.

I agree and disagree with this. Seeing as Madara has been indicated to have the ability to control the Kyubi, what does this imply for someone who masters and harnesses the full power of the Sharingan? What I am getting at is, can anyone else see how Kishi equals the playing field? naruto has the Kyubi, Sasuke has a bloodline to control the Kyubi. We've already seen him SUPPRESS the Kyubi chakra INSIDE NARUTO HEAD! the way i see it, the idea is that Sasuke would have to use his Sharingan to keep Kyubi at bay in the process using alot of power and Naruto not having the Kyubi would use his own skill, thereby negating both the sharingan and the Kyubi in an 'ultimate final' battle. So that each would have to use the skill and own normal (if it can be called that) strength and power.

Very plausible. However Naruto has main character hax which is why I'm certain that whatever he uses will be better than what the other guy has. But I don't argue this idea.
This is of course assuming that the final battle in the series is Naruto vs Sasuke. If not Naruto will quickly outstrip him in power as the series wears on.

I like both characters, Naruto AND sasuke they both have great characteristics of their own. Whilst I think your argument might be slightly better than a 'sasuke fanboy' I also don't think your's or even mine are completely the all end all. We all have our opinions but same way I see flaws in your argument you will undoubtedly see flaws in mine.

Of course. But that's half the fun.



Okay, new replies up.
Seriously I have checked the scans just so many times since Crixx start making these claims that I feel I can recite them. Provide a pic proving your claims because I see otherwise in the manga.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on December 11, 2007, 10:39:43 AM
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Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 11, 2007, 10:48:30 AM
I wouldn't even give him that much credit tbh. Just putting him that high already means having him exceed Jiraiya's capabilities.
As for the last, he's a Hokage candidate because he's the best they have left. I mean it's either him or Gai the way I see it. Obvious choice there.
This isn't correct as Jaraiya technically took out not 1 not 2 but 3 BODIES and actually  he took out 1 body TWICE so technically you could say he took out 4 bodies or have you forgotten. ONLY because pain has 6 bodies did he get the up on Jaraiya. Thus me saying Kakashi can take out 2 is quite plausible and still below Jaraiya.

You're forgetting another factor though, Oro's body was starting to fail. That's why he left, not because he reached his 100% limit. I'll remind you that very shortly after this he was actually on his deathbed unable to do basically anything such that he was easy prey for Sasuke.
Also I don't think his Kusanagi strike was meant to be killing either. 4TK had proven itself tough enough that he had to try something to actually score some points on his own. He says both before the fight and when he decides to withdraw that the entire thing was 'playtime'.
Lastly you mention Jiraiya being wounded from trying to put the seal on him, but you'll notice that Oro would have been able to do that very early in the fight if he wanted to since he puts his fist in 4TK's face. This is Oro in a dying body as well. So it's not like he was trying to do anything so drastically different from what Orochimaru was capable of doing.
I agree that Oro wasn't at 100% however I would not put Naruubi down as to say it was playtime (yes he did say something to that effect) but Oro knew quite well he could have gotten killed and almost did by the... 'K-O-KEN' that Naruubi plant on him (he had to summon 3 gates to defend himself and they all failed as I recall). I also think the Kusenagi WAS intended to kill as Oro was SURPRISED when he realized it did NOT pierce him. As for Oro easily being able to accomplish placing the seal on Naruubi, I agree, but that goes back to the point YOU made about certain match ups NOT being ideal. Sure Oro is prolly faster (this is debatable after seeing Senin mode) but Oro is a freaking snake, he could out manuever Naruubi whereas Jaraiya could not.

It's unreasonable to think that Sasuke can surpass Rasenshuriken quite frankly in terms of pure difficulty. It took Naruto 20 years to learn to do it and it's a jutsu that neither Minato nor Jiraiya nor Kakashi was ever able to do.
Sasuke's chakra abilities also have NOT been shown to be level with Naruto. Rasengan is spatial manipulation of the highest order and Sasuke cannot do anything comparable. The facts simply do not show him as ever having a learning and execution capability for jutsus that exceeded Naruto's.
Whatever Sasuke is likely to come up with in future is more sharingan hax. And even then my point is that his 'that jutsu' will be crushed by the power of Naruto's 'that jutsu'.
You pointed out that ORO is a complete bad@$$ and Sasuke was constantly learning techniques from him, to suggest that sasuke doesn't have at least S-Rank jutsu in his arsenal would be @$$enine :p I agree the Rasenshiruken is NOTHING to be scoffed at, but you yourself said it took 20 years. What do you think Sasuke could do with 20 years and combining S-ranked jutsu?

Sharingan copying wheel still has limits. Sasuke is limited by what his body can legitimately do. All he will learn is the method through reading the handsigns (one reason why rasengan apparently can't be copied).
Sasuke's body simply is not able to do rasenshuriken or something or a similar nature. It's past his limit. He doesn't have the chakra reserves. Think about it this way, Sasuke's chidori limit during chuunin exams was TWO. On the other hand when Naruto was learning rasengan he was spinning chakra whole day and has never been shown to have a limit on how many he can do.
PTS we know he has the capacity to do several thousand rasengans AT LEAST. And yet he can do THREE Rasenshurikens. How can Sasuke compare to the power of Naruto's latent Kyuubi chakra?
Sasuke has already shown his body had FAR surpassed most other nin in the naruverse. He SINGLE handedly defeated an akatsuki member whom Kakashi AND Naruto couldn't EVEN capture after he had NO ARMS. That says alot, I do think it was a favourable match up being lightning vs. Earth and all, but still Naruto had a team fighting Kakuza before he stepped in. Its no small feat either, HOWEVER Naruto cannot claim to have singlehandedly taken on an akatsuki member and WON. Chakra capacity is one thing, skill is another. Naruto has chakra to blow thats for sure, but all that power wouldn't do him much good if he can't properly use it. Case in point, Itachi put him in a Genjutsu he couldn't escape and all he used was his FINGER :p sasuke has already been shown to have very good use of Genjutsu as he used against deidara, as it stands Sasuke would wipe the floor with Naruto atm.


I'm not trying to push a position, it's been pretty much stated. Kakashi said it himself, Naruto will be the person to create a jutsu higher than S-rank. Then he started teaching him the steps for Rasenshuriken. Rasenshuriken is higher than S-rank. Everything else is S-rank or lower.
People are forgetting that three of the most brilliant minds in the Narutoverse, including the proclaimed "Greatest Ninja Konoha ever created", have failed to create this jutsu.
Keep in mind its a last resort jutsu that does him more damage than good. Meaning its pretty useless atm. He needs to work on it some more but thats getting sidetracked. It was also mentioned that aside from Kakashi and the 4th being unable to complete it, the reason is because they don't have the chakra that naruto has. THe Kyubi is what gives NAruto the edge to perform this jutsu. I mean come on, SADLY the RASENSHIRUKEN WAS WASH, RINSE, REPEAT of Rasengan. IF YOU ONLY KNOW HOW DISAPPOINTED I WAS IN KISHI FOR THAT!!! 2 clones == Rasengan, 3 clones== Rasenshiruken... anyhow you look at it, its DAFT :p Naruto's chakra capacity is what allowed him to perform this, I can't see it being much more than that sadly...


What I'm saying is this, Naruto has demonstrated that he is superior to Sasuke when it comes to learning new jutsu. This is not debatable. Rasengan is a couple weeks? Sasuke doing Chidori against Gaara had everyone marvelling at his new power. Naruto using Rasengan against Kabuto had Orochimaru abandoning his battle with Jiraiya specifically to kill Naruto because the fact that he could learn rasengan showed how dangerous he was.
Given this fact, how is Sasuke supposed to have created something in 3 years grater than something that took Naruto 20? It doesn't add up in a mathematical sense.
I agree that clone learning was made up on the spot to give Naruto an edge. But it's there. It's no different from harping on about Sharingan, which has had so many abilities pulled out it's ass that Santa might want to consider stocking presents for all the world's children there. Tons of room.
I think I addressed this already. Sasuke can QUICKLY learn a jutsu, Naruto takes time, however he can perfect and learn once he has the time. Meaning his ridiculous clone learning jutsu :p in an actual battle, Sasuke's ability is much more useful. Meaning he can use the enemies jutsu against him quickly vs. Naruto who would be more like the backup. To put it in a different way Sasuke is the scout, Naruto is the heavy hitter. Both have equally important roles and both have their benefits and weaknesses.


Very plausible. However Naruto has main character hax which is why I'm certain that whatever he uses will be better than what the other guy has. But I don't argue this idea.
This is of course assuming that the final battle in the series is Naruto vs Sasuke. If not Naruto will quickly outstrip him in power as the series wears on.
Naruto already surpasses him in POWER that was never a dispute, however power isn't very useful without knowing how to control it, and as it stands he cannot thus sasuke has the edge atm. I want Naruto to surpass or at least equal Sasuke beleive me, I was CUSSING wondering what naruto was doing for 2 years PTS seeing as Sasuke was LEAPS AND BOUNDS above in terms and skill. But at the same time to say that Naruto has shown his superiority to Sasuke is well FUD imho at least ATM!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: spinner on December 11, 2007, 12:05:52 PM
nxt chapter should be interesting seeing jiraiya got put down rel hard and im sure by now THAT is not a bushin. another thing tho is that gets me is whenever there's some big relevation to come out, it gets silenced...hate when that happens :(
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on December 11, 2007, 12:08:48 PM
I'll find that scan later...it's around naruto's initial appearance. But wow...Crixx is being disgustingly disingenous.


http://tinyurl.com/2kafs2

Do you mean this, Crixx? You know...during his training? Not the battle?

http://tinyurl.com/2luetd

Because as you can see here...he can do it on his own.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 11, 2007, 05:38:53 PM
maybe i was mistaken about the inbattle help, if i was, my mistake, ill check my stuff and get back on that, but thanks for the pic sync

what i really wanna deal with is how exar keeps ignoring the very very valid points winny and i keep making about naruto, sasuke, oro, jiraiya and kakashi!!

also, kakashi can also do kage bunshin so therefore he can also do the completly ridiculous mega learnings of many clones all at once jutsu that kishi pulled out of his a$$ just like winny said.

And how can you say that naruto has more potential to learn jutsu than sasuke???
lol??  lets go over the amount of jutsu's naruto is known to use.

Kage bunshin
Rasengan
Oodama Rasengan
Rasenshuriken
Kuchiyose
and well that naruto rendan lameness
Wow... amaaazzzaazzzzing...

Sasuke?
Housenka no jutsu
goukakyuu no jutsu
Ryuyuuka no jutsu
That flikker speed thingy
Chidori
His modifications of chidori i believe 3 total
Genjutsu
Time space teleportation

thats all i can remember off the top of my head from what was revealed he knows
from the count thats twice as many as naruto

and we have no idea how many he learned from oro
as for saying he can only copy what his body can handle

have we ever seen sasuke copy somethign and then falter??
hes not kakashi he has a genuine fortified uchiha body
as well as juin 2!!
which has provided him a ridiculous amount of chakura!!

also!! he probably learned some of kabuto's jutsu!!!
remember how kabuto didnt wanna use his jutsu around kakashi for fear he would steal them??
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 11, 2007, 07:10:44 PM

This isn't correct as Jaraiya technically took out not 1 not 2 but 3 BODIES and actually  he took out 1 body TWICE so technically you could say he took out 4 bodies or have you forgotten. ONLY because pain has 6 bodies did he get the up on Jaraiya. Thus me saying Kakashi can take out 2 is quite plausible and still below Jaraiya.

I understand now what you mean. But isn't that assumption based strictly on a mathematical prediction?
"Well Jiraiya can kill 4 so kakashi can do 2."
Jiraiya had to use an incredibly powerful genjutsu to kill the 3, well beyond anything Kakashi can do. And the 4th essentially got trapped. While I don't doubt Kakashi's abilities if he came up against all 6 Pains at once I really don't think he can do anything but die without scratching them. One or two at a time, then that's different.

I agree that Oro wasn't at 100% however I would not put Naruubi down as to say it was playtime (yes he did say something to that effect) but Oro knew quite well he could have gotten killed and almost did by the... 'K-O-KEN' that Naruubi plant on him (he had to summon 3 gates to defend himself and they all failed as I recall). I also think the Kusenagi WAS intended to kill as Oro was SURPRISED when he realized it did NOT pierce him. As for Oro easily being able to accomplish placing the seal on Naruubi, I agree, but that goes back to the point YOU made about certain match ups NOT being ideal. Sure Oro is prolly faster (this is debatable after seeing Senin mode) but Oro is a freaking snake, he could out manuever Naruubi whereas Jaraiya could not.

I dunno, it seems like Kusanagi was the next logical step in his attacks after taijutsu and snakes failed. Being struck by Kusanagi doesn't guarantee a kill. Certainly by this point he was well aware of the toughness of 4TK. What do you theorize then would have been the reason for him deciding to kill Naruto? He had a vested interest in Naruto remaining alive so they could continue killing the Akatsuki that were going to hunt him down.
I don't think Oro's speed is so much greater than Jiraiya's that he would have an appreciable advantage in putting the seal. Jiraiya is certainly very resourceful. But without seeing the fight it's hard to conclusively argue either way I suppose.

You pointed out that ORO is a complete bad@$$ and Sasuke was constantly learning techniques from him, to suggest that sasuke doesn't have at least S-Rank jutsu in his arsenal would be @$$enine :p I agree the Rasenshiruken is NOTHING to be scoffed at, but you yourself said it took 20 years. What do you think Sasuke could do with 20 years and combining S-ranked jutsu?

S-rank is nothing to laugh at. I've looked through jutsu lists and the only offensive jutsus I've ever seen as S-rank are Raikiri and higher level rasengan variations. Most of the others are support level like Edo Tensei, body switch or Tsunade's regeneration.
I'm not saying it isn't possible that he has some, I'd probably class summoning Manda as S-rank to begin with and it isn't inconceivable that his Chidori is as powerful now as Kakashi's Raikiri.
But Rasenshuriken is so far beyond any of these it isn't even funny. Sasuke just does not have the chakra to do something that powerful. And as discussed, he wouldn't be able to learn it as quickly even if he could work like Naruto can. Naruto's learning abilities surpass his.

Sasuke has already shown his body had FAR surpassed most other nin in the naruverse. He SINGLE handedly defeated an akatsuki member whom Kakashi AND Naruto couldn't EVEN capture after he had NO ARMS. That says alot, I do think it was a favourable match up being lightning vs. Earth and all, but still Naruto had a team fighting Kakuza before he stepped in. Its no small feat either, HOWEVER Naruto cannot claim to have singlehandedly taken on an akatsuki member and WON. Chakra capacity is one thing, skill is another. Naruto has chakra to blow thats for sure, but all that power wouldn't do him much good if he can't properly use it. Case in point, Itachi put him in a Genjutsu he couldn't escape and all he used was his FINGER :p sasuke has already been shown to have very good use of Genjutsu as he used against deidara, as it stands Sasuke would wipe the floor with Naruto atm.

Whoa whoa whoa, I'm not arguing this. Sasuke is borderline ridiculous atm. If he takes out Itachi (and he will) he's essentially in the territory of Pain, Tobi, Jiraiya, 100% Oro and the first 4 Hokages.
If Naruto faces Sasuke he will be absolutely destroyed. Unless he can use 4-tail at which point Sasuke dead. Or Sasuke might just suppress Kyuubi again. And kill Naruto. And then we'll see what Kyuubi was warning him about when he said not to kill Naruto.

Keep in mind its a last resort jutsu that does him more damage than good. Meaning its pretty useless atm. He needs to work on it some more but thats getting sidetracked. It was also mentioned that aside from Kakashi and the 4th being unable to complete it, the reason is because they don't have the chakra that naruto has. THe Kyubi is what gives NAruto the edge to perform this jutsu. I mean come on, SADLY the RASENSHIRUKEN WAS WASH, RINSE, REPEAT of Rasengan. IF YOU ONLY KNOW HOW DISAPPOINTED I WAS IN KISHI FOR THAT!!! 2 clones == Rasengan, 3 clones== Rasenshiruken... anyhow you look at it, its DAFT :p Naruto's chakra capacity is what allowed him to perform this, I can't see it being much more than that sadly...


You really do naruto a disservice there. It's not just a matter of chakra, it's combining spatial and elemtnal discombobwhatever at the very highest level. There's some very strict chakra control involved.
It's not like having the huge pool is the be all to doing it, it's a serious learning process.
You realize that forming ONE Rasenshuriken is essentially taking the same chakra as forming HUNDREDS maybe THOUSANDS of Rasengans?
And it isn't useless, he can pretty much decide to use it if he wants to, and the way he was talking he'll do just that. Kinjutsu means nothing in Narutoverse, Naruto has been using forbidden techniques since before he graduated.

Naruto already surpasses him in POWER that was never a dispute, however power isn't very useful without knowing how to control it, and as it stands he cannot thus sasuke has the edge atm. I want Naruto to surpass or at least equal Sasuke beleive me, I was CUSSING wondering what naruto was doing for 2 years PTS seeing as Sasuke was LEAPS AND BOUNDS above in terms and skill. But at the same time to say that Naruto has shown his superiority to Sasuke is well FUD imho at least ATM!

To reiterate, I concur with you.
My point is to show Naruto's superiority is being able to learn and execute high level jutsu, not prove that he is the superior fighter. He has been the superior fighter at certain points in the series, but certainly not now. Not without using tailed forms anyway.


also, kakashi can also do kage bunshin so therefore he can also do the completly ridiculous mega learnings of many clones all at once jutsu that kishi pulled out of his a$$ just like winny said.

No he can't. Not like Naruto can. Kakashi could use his clones to read books and learn them off but Tajuu Kage Bunshin splits chakra evenly among the clones. So Kakashi's clones would be completely useless when there're 1000 of him since they each have 0.1% of his total chakra. Hence why Kakashi outright states that Naruto is the only person that can do this type of training.

And how can you say that naruto has more potential to learn jutsu than sasuke???
lol??  lets go over the amount of jutsu's naruto is known to use.

I never said he know MORE jutsu, but that he is capable of doing HIGHER LEVEL jutsu and also learning high level jutsu more quickly.
Both of these points cannot be disputed. They are proven facts.
As an aside I don't remember Sasuke knowing space time teleportation. Only Kakashi can do something like that with his MS.

as for saying he can only copy what his body can handle

have we ever seen sasuke copy somethign and then falter??
hes not kakashi he has a genuine fortified uchiha body
as well as juin 2!!
which has provided him a ridiculous amount of chakura!!

Quite irrelevant. Nothing he knows can provide him the sheer amount of chakra it would take to do 1000 clone training, or create something like Rasenshuriken. I'll say again, it is the chakra equivalent of HUNDREDS, possibly THOUSANDS of Rasengans. And that's not even taking into account how long it takes to learn. If it took Naruto twenty years it'd take Sasuke a hundred.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on December 11, 2007, 09:56:18 PM
"As an aside I don't remember Sasuke knowing space time teleportation."

Deidara. Manda. Explosion. Deus Ex Machina. Etc
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 11, 2007, 10:06:57 PM
"As an aside I don't remember Sasuke knowing space time teleportation."

Deidara. Manda. Explosion. Deus Ex Machina. Etc

I'm pretty sure that wasn't space time teleportation. He summoned Manda, genjutsued him, went inside and then had Manda desummon and resummon at the new location. The whole damn thing was DEM but there's no space time jutsu involved.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on December 11, 2007, 10:23:32 PM
Oh wait. Yes. You're right. Suigetsu summoned him.

However Suigetsu does remark that he has used space time jutsu to teleport himself to another area. I supposing summoning falls under space/time.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 12, 2007, 01:01:32 AM
exar

you keep making statements like naruto has god haxx and thats an indisputable fact
but when we disprove it you ignore the points we are bringing up!@!


for one, your severely downplaying the amount of chakura that sasuke has @ juin 2
and making be all and end all claims out of speculation!!
we have not seen sasuke at max potential yet you claim that its an indisputable fact that x y z
what kinda argument is that?

you keep on disregarding sasuke's potential to learn jutsu's via  sharingan
and placing naruto's potential over that of sasuke's
yet naruto with all this supposed potential has 5 jutsu's to his name!!

then of course yu go saying sasuke doesnt know space time jutsu when its right there in the manga but whatever, things like cannon facts/no guess work needed cause kishi straight up said so, means nothing to you right?


ill ask another thing
surely itachi knows kage bunshin and surely he has a massive pool of chakura
if it takes naruto 20 years to learn something
are you saying it would take itachi 100 years to learn it as well??
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 12, 2007, 09:23:16 AM
Well crixx I can't agree with you there on the Chakra reserves of Sasuke. Yes he is very powerful esp with Cruse seal lvl 2... however as Sasuke himself has said before, the seals use too much chakra and that form is not something he can hold for too long. Whereas Naruto has a RIDICULOUS and effectively inexhaustible supply ala Kyubi. Sasuke could not do the 1000 clone training like Naruto cause he would not manage reproducing SO many clones repeatedly in a short time frame. To put it another way Sasuke could prolly make 3000 clones meaning 3 times in a row, whereas Naruto can do it WHOLE DAY as was the case in his training.

On another note Exar, keep in mind Jaraiya took out the 3 bodies of Pain when facing JUST 3! and to say that Kakashi isn't able to perform as powerful a genjutsu whilst so far we would be inclined to believe, remember he does possess the Sharingan and after his encounter with Itachi's Mangekyou its is HIGHLY unlikely that he hasn't been preparing himself for resisting and potentially using a genjutsu of that calibre. So I would be inclined to believe that Kakashi could take out at least 2 Pain bodies if facing 3 just as Jaraiya, perhaps even take the 3 out like Jaraiya... 6 well no ONE character in the Naruverse (save perhaps Tobi since he seems to be the boss) can take them ALL on alone. And btw it wasn't a mathematical theory behind how many Kakashi could take out (meaning Jaraiya==2xKakashi) it was just a number less than Jaraiya but more than one :p but either way I said my peace about that already.

I do agree with you on the Rasenshiruken being an extremely difficult jutsu to perform, I just think that the Chakra reserve is what gives him the edge. I would sumise that sasuke with similar capabilities in terms of reserves and clone training too could acheive, however it IS so far the most powerful Ninjutsu attack we've seen to date (save the K-O-Ken of the 4 tails used against Oro which would definitely be more destructive OR the suicide of Deidara which was even more destructive).

I also hear what you're saying about leaving Naruto alive, however I do believe that Oro intended to seriously injure Naruto to render him unable to continue battling which did not occur. Either way his intent towards Naruto would still be more malicious than Jaraiya trying to seal away the chakra. And I can't agree with Oro not being more manueverable... fast perhaps Jaraiya is as fast in Senin mode, but off the bat, Oro could much easier put the seal on Naruto considering his snake like nature and appendages. He can get close to Naruto and lose a few snakes with ease, Jaraiya woul dlose what? an arm? that's not too useful.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 12, 2007, 09:48:18 AM
It's funny you talk about me dodging points Crixx (I haven't) but yet if there's one constant in this entire debate it's you continually stating false information. Naruto using kyuubi chakra for rasenshuriken, him needing Kakashi to spin the chakra for him, Sasuke knowing space-time jutsu.

for one, your severely downplaying the amount of chakura that sasuke has @ juin 2
and making be all and end all claims out of speculation!!
we have not seen sasuke at max potential yet you claim that its an indisputable fact that x y z
what kinda argument is that?

Do you actually think that Sasuke, even as CS2, has nearly as much chakra as Naruto?
Exactly how can you think that? Naruto's chakra has dwarfed Sasuke's ever since their first days in Team 7. It's a verifiable FACT.
CS2 certainly does increase his chakra quantity however it takes only a look at the Deidara fight to see the limits of his chakra reservoir.

you keep on disregarding sasuke's potential to learn jutsu's via  sharingan
and placing naruto's potential over that of sasuke's
yet naruto with all this supposed potential has 5 jutsu's to his name!!

Let me pose a question to you: Do you deny that Naruto has shown the ability to consistently learn high level jutsu at a rate not only faster than Sasuke but more or less anybody?
You can talk about sharingan all day, but sharingan can't copy everything, only jutsu with hand signs. And even then the jutsus it reproduces are still subject to the user's limits.

then of course yu go saying sasuke doesnt know space time jutsu when its right there in the manga but whatever, things like cannon facts/no guess work needed cause kishi straight up said so, means nothing to you right?

We've already established he can't do a space-time jutsu. It's in the two posts above yours.

ill ask another thing
surely itachi knows kage bunshin and surely he has a massive pool of chakura
if it takes naruto 20 years to learn something
are you saying it would take itachi 100 years to learn it as well??

Define 'massive'. Itachi's chakra pool has never impressed. He weakens visibly after using Tsukuyomi against Kakashi. Additionally he is incapable of using MS when at 30% of his chakra. So either MS takes a massive amount of chakra (it doesn't, Kakashi has a relatively low pool and can do it) or Itachi's pool isn't as large as you think.
Now then, Kisame would be a different story. Assuming Kisame knows or can learn Kage Bunshin he can damn well do the same kind of training. Probably not at the same level of Naruto but he can certainly do it. As we have discovered, Kisame has a freakin massive chakra pool, one that has been acknowledged as such on two different occassions.

And of course you're forgetting one last thing, Naruto's high learning abilities. He proved it with Rasengan, it's undeniable.


On another note Exar, keep in mind Jaraiya took out the 3 bodies of Pain when facing JUST 3! and to say that Kakashi isn't able to perform as powerful a genjutsu whilst so far we would be inclined to believe, remember he does possess the Sharingan and after his encounter with Itachi's Mangekyou its is HIGHLY unlikely that he hasn't been preparing himself for resisting and potentially using a genjutsu of that calibre.

Well if Itachi is to be believed, there isn't anything Kakashi can do about Tsukuyomi. Only someone with the Uchiha Kekkei genkai can resist it. But whatever, I suppose Kakashi could Mangekyou a couple bodies and we can put this to rest.

I do agree with you on the Rasenshiruken being an extremely difficult jutsu to perform, I just think that the Chakra reserve is what gives him the edge. I would sumise that sasuke with similar capabilities in terms of reserves and clone training too could acheive, however it IS so far the most powerful Ninjutsu attack we've seen to date (save the K-O-Ken of the 4 tails used against Oro which would definitely be more destructive OR the suicide of Deidara which was even more destructive).

The edge in performing it certainly, but what about in learning it?
Sasuke took three months to learn Chidori, Naruto took a couple weeks to learn Rasengan(a far more impressive feat in itself). Sasuke has Kakashi constantly training him, Naruto had to make due with a general instruction while Jiraiya did 'research'.
This is the other point I want to drive home, Naruto's learning capability has been shown to far exceed any other ninja.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 12, 2007, 10:25:02 AM
The edge in performing it certainly, but what about in learning it?
Sasuke took three months to learn Chidori, Naruto took a couple weeks to learn Rasengan(a far more impressive feat in itself). Sasuke has Kakashi constantly training him, Naruto had to make due with a general instruction while Jiraiya did 'research'.
This is the other point I want to drive home, Naruto's learning capability has been shown to far exceed any other ninja.

The one problem with this idea is that his variety of jutsu doesn't support this at ALL. If he was so good at learning one would think by now he would have learnt more from jaraiya either by begging or in training, but after 1+ year he hasn't learnt much AT ALL. That is the one problem that leads me to no consider him more able than sasuke atm. Now imho he should use the 1000 clone training and study every jutsu from EVERY clan in the whole of konoha as well as read every war log or battle related text that Konoha has to offer, could you IMAGINE how uber he would be if he did that for say.. a month? ah well... pipe dream immc!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 12, 2007, 12:48:06 PM
It's funny you talk about me dodging points Crixx (I haven't) but yet if there's one constant in this entire debate it's you continually stating false information. Naruto using kyuubi chakra for rasenshuriken, him needing Kakashi to spin the chakra for him, Sasuke knowing space-time jutsu.


*sigh* exar yur letting yur fanboyism cloud yu and yur accusing me of lying to
first off, most of the time in pst we see naruto with his eyes fox like and his teeth are now fangs
obviously at these times, hes heated and the kyuubi chakura is flowing into him changing his appearance and duh giving him chakura for his jutsu's. So iam not lying about that

second, synch provided a link right there showing kakashi making a rasengan for naruto to do the rasenshuriken
i was mistaken about him needing to do that for him in battle, but the proof is right there that kakashi had to do it for him at first! look its right there in black and white!!


and lassttlyyyy
SASUKE KNOWING SPACE TIME JUTSU!!!!! WOW
YU REALLY MUST NOT READ THE MANGA
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/363/14/
HERE YU GO, SUIGETSU SUMMONS MANDA TO HIS LOCATION
SASUKE STEPS OUT
SUIGETSU COMMENTS ON THE GENJUTSU
AND THENNNNNNNNNNNNN
SUIGETSU MAKES THE COMMENT THAT SASUKE USES A JUTSU TO FLY INTO A DIFFERENT SPACE!!
AKA SPACE TIME JUTSU!!!!

thats why karin couldnt detect his chakura anymroe! because he moved out of space and time to avoid the brunt of the damage and then got summoned by suigetsu!!

stop letting urself be so hurried on these accusations!!
yur a naruto fan boy so its understandable that yu dont pay enuff attention to what sasuke does
but thas no excuse really
cause i analyse the very limited abilities of naruto myself and make note of them.

As for kakashi
what he does is NOT MS that is something entirely different as stated by himself.
So dont dare put him in the same class as itachi
and as for amaterasu
thats a jutsu of the sun god!! how much chakura do yu imagine that takes to pull off??

jiraiya was confident that it was impossible to break free of the frogs throat!! and then itachi burnt it away
jiraiya had never even seen anything like that before and had to seal it away to study it!! once again
how awesome do yu have to be to surprise jiraiya?? when ur 18 no less!!!!

third and 4thly
Itachi and sasuke, can both learn kage bunshin, no worries there
jutsu controlled by hand seals, and even if they can some how only make 100 clones
that would be 100 clones with the leet haxx of sharingans!! they can more than learn the hell out of rasengan and any other jutsu!!

even kakashi can do it! pffft

also, yu focus so much on naruto's chakura shape  and wind manipulation that you seem to forget that sasuke has fire and electricity manipulation abilities! and that he has been seen doing chakura shape manipulation now!!

so that probably means that his THAT jutsu will manipulate fire, electricity AND shape!!!
thats three fields compared to naruto's two!!

sure juin 2 doesnt have as much chakura as kyuubi but sasuke is hell of alot more efficient than naruto is so he doesnt neeeeeeed as much chakura to pull off amazing jutsu!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 12, 2007, 12:53:38 PM
Actually crixx its Frog STOMACH and what kakashi does may not be what Itachi considers the Mangekyou however in the DB subtitling of the anime and in the scanlation, kakashi says Mengekyou Sharingan, so it is indeed a boot leg version but just like XP, just cause you have an illegitimate XP Pro doesn't make it LINUX :p Besides that I would place Kakashi in the same league with Itachi (though I suspect Itachi would win) I do think kakashi is being downplayed and is up there with the big boys just perhaps yuh know his lvl 70 epic gear is tier 2 and itachi is tier 5 :p
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 12, 2007, 12:56:28 PM
lawl @ tier 5 heheehh

but yu didnt comment on my pictatorial evidence to support sasuke's uberness!!

dont let exar's roving madness infect you too
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 12, 2007, 01:01:05 PM
Nah I used to upload manga for Taku remember? so I am quite familiar with that, I use Japflap for the HQ scanlations and in their scan seigetsu makes a comment to that effect. I personally don't think of it as space TIME, but space for sure. I thought it a bit over the top to say space/time but hey a duck is a duck. That aside the only person I would say uses true Space/time is Tobi as he can phase in and out of reality from what we've seen.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on December 12, 2007, 01:56:20 PM
*currently trying to make a tobi sig where is grey fox when you need him*

OH shocks manda died.....i now reading over the chapter...dang he was cool...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on December 12, 2007, 05:04:33 PM
Well only for the sake of keeping this argument no one can win going (its one of the most entertaining things ive seen on this fourm in awhile) I just have a point to make...

Quote
second, synch provided a link right there showing kakashi making a rasengan for naruto to do the rasenshuriken
i was mistaken about him needing to do that for him in battle, but the proof is right there that kakashi had to do it for him at first! look its right there in black and white!!

Your actually wrong about this, kakashi simply made that rasengan for naruto to test out his rasenshuriken. Naruto realised how to make this by simply making another clone, but i'll give you this much, it was kakashi who gave him the idea...

]url]http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/330/04/[/url] And continue reading...

Now please, by all means continue, lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 12, 2007, 06:59:08 PM
The one problem with this idea is that his variety of jutsu doesn't support this at ALL. If he was so good at learning one would think by now he would have learnt more from jaraiya either by begging or in training, but after 1+ year he hasn't learnt much AT ALL. That is the one problem that leads me to no consider him more able than sasuke atm. Now imho he should use the 1000 clone training and study every jutsu from EVERY clan in the whole of konoha as well as read every war log or battle related text that Konoha has to offer, could you IMAGINE how uber he would be if he did that for say.. a month? ah well... pipe dream immc!

Agreed, but just because he doesn't do it doesn't mean he can't. I agree that Naruto's jutsu arsenal is EXTREMELY limited, but his capability to learn high level jutsu still exists.
And what you're saying would be awesome, but Naruto ain't smart enough to think of doing that. But it would be really nice if he got some range to his game.


first off, most of the time in pst we see naruto with his eyes fox like and his teeth are now fangs
obviously at these times, hes heated and the kyuubi chakura is flowing into him changing his appearance and duh giving him chakura for his jutsu's. So iam not lying about that

Time to provide a link bro. Of where he was in kyuubi mode when he used it against Kakuzu.

second, synch provided a link right there showing kakashi making a rasengan for naruto to do the rasenshuriken
i was mistaken about him needing to do that for him in battle, but the proof is right there that kakashi had to do it for him at first! look its right there in black and white!!

I can't believe you man. Kakashi said right there for him to smash his(Naruto's) fuuton rasengan against his rasengan. How he could do that if he use Kakashi rasengan to make his fuuton version? Come ON man.

thats why karin couldnt detect his chakura anymroe! because he moved out of space and time to avoid the brunt of the damage and then got summoned by suigetsu!!

Bro, the whole 'moving to another space' is Manda desummoning. Kuchiyose no jutsu IS a space-time jutsu, it summons the creatures from another dimension. Sasuke has no jutsu to move himself through space time.
But let's say he did. Exactly how is it even remotely useful? D man cyah even get himself out cause Suigetsu had to save him. The jutsu equivalent of "I've fallen and I can't get up."
But seriously it's just kuchiyose. And you'll realize that Sasuke never say anything about a space-time jutsu, how the hell d rest of them could know?

As for kakashi
what he does is NOT MS that is something entirely different as stated by himself.
So dont dare put him in the same class as itachi
and as for amaterasu
thats a jutsu of the sun god!! how much chakura do yu imagine that takes to pull off??

Oh lawd...
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0WwBsGjMcQi0fQNtmifgGxSt52h5Zjl9kHrtjoLbx6NkgLs6IR*dvItz7MhBquilmh9DjR3DK78Z6yMgLHKwQSkwV7n4XsLnHlZ9CdoIPbhJhnGwc7bekLWvqwItUBo*e7cybTkQbOsc/P?dc=4675616917771585897)

And sun god jutsu for reals man. Ra must be really slipping cause Jiraiya seal them flames like nuthin.
And it can't take that much chakra, since Itachi is incapable of using MS with 30% chakra and he was able to use amaterasu immediately after using tsukuyomi. And he has less chakra than Kisame. Who has less than Naruto.

jiraiya was confident that it was impossible to break free of the frogs throat!! and then itachi burnt it away
jiraiya had never even seen anything like that before and had to seal it away to study it!! once again
how awesome do yu have to be to surprise jiraiya?? when ur 18 no less!!!!

For real man. So imagine how much MORE awesome you'd have to be to surprise Orochimaru, who you and I have both described as the baddest sannin, at age TWELVE. Naruto and Rasengan FTW.
Poor Sasuke could only ever surprise lil children.

third and 4thly
Itachi and sasuke, can both learn kage bunshin, no worries there
jutsu controlled by hand seals, and even if they can some how only make 100 clones
that would be 100 clones with the leet haxx of sharingans!! they can more than learn the hell out of rasengan and any other jutsu!!

Sasuke has never shown that he can do Kage Bunshin for one thing.
For another if they made 100 clones it'd be the most useless 100 clones ever. Because they would each have 1% of the whole's chakra. So they can't do jack.

also, yu focus so much on naruto's chakura shape  and wind manipulation that you seem to forget that sasuke has fire and electricity manipulation abilities! and that he has been seen doing chakura shape manipulation now!!

so that probably means that his THAT jutsu will manipulate fire, electricity AND shape!!!
thats three fields compared to naruto's two!!

Yeah but Naruto's THAT jutsu will be using full kyuubi chakra. So that still badder =P.
But yes Sasuke has been doing elemental recombination longer than Naruto and spatial recomposition longer as well. But Naruto's jutsu use both these properties at a much higher level than Sasuke's jutsu do.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 12, 2007, 07:39:02 PM
 From a different perspective ,  i believe the Naruto /Sasuke rivalry will never be truly solved perhaps till the end of the story..

   Sasuke will be the skilled , perfect , uber ninja who can learn anything , i'm sure he can learn basic Rasengan (kakashi probably copied it himself) and maybe do a RasenganChidori if he felt like it..
    I don't think Naruto can ever really truly defeat Sasuke till he reaches his hokage status, knows hundreds or thousands of jutsu   , and can counter anything thrown at him by sasuke .
  Sasuke is 'who we'd all love to be' the cool , rich  , white dude who gets all the dudes and we'r jealous of.
  But sasuke is selfish...

 Naruto represents US , the average dude struggling to get ahead , he fights for everyone else so at the end of the day he will be king of the narutoverse , as everyone will love and respect him , even if he can't defeat Sasuke.

 Sasuke is too fast to be caught in a RasenganShuriken to begin with , His chidori will allow him to counter or copy most jutsu in general , only .

Naruto is nowhere jiraiya's level now , but the series is NAMED naruto.. Pain is obviously his nemesis for this arc as Naruto is one of the few ninja who can defeat him single handedly thanks to Bunshin...
   Naruto will  level up..  things to be seen.

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 12, 2007, 08:40:05 PM
umm exar when naruto fought oro he wasnt 12 O.o hes 16

and sasuke didnt need suigetsu to summon manda
he would have just stayed in that other dimension till the explosion ended
but then he would still be in that location when everyone came running there, and that would have been bad, so kishi made suigetsu summon sasuke to the location.
And why couldnt the others figure out what he did? they are all s rank ninja! they arent dolts like naruto.
Oh btw thats the mistake alot of people are making here
SUigetsu did not summon manda
that scroll was not for summoning manda, that snake emblem on it was the HEBI emblem, that scroll is for them to summon each other.

So when suigetsu saw the hebi symbol dissapearing, it meant he saw sasuke's chakura dissapearing so he summoned sasuke to their location.

THats why he was shocked to see manda there as well.
Why would he summon manda, then be shocked that its manda he summoned???
pretty easy mistake for people to make their.

So that whole summoning manda to save sasuke argument is pretty much null and void.


And about kakashi and the rasenshuriken

If you would do us the favour and recall what happened there.
Naruto could not wrap his little mind around the concept of molding both wind nature and shaping chakura, he could do one or the other but not both.

So kakashi told him to do his wind rasengan, which is just a swirling ball of wind chakura
and then kakashi told him to press his wind rasengan against kakashi's normal rasengan

and thus the rasenshuriken was born

after that, naruto told him it was like looking left and right at the same time
and kakashi told him it was simple, make one clone look left, and one clone look right
deux ex machina clone learning haxx no jutsu
and naruto then learns how to do it himself.

No need to deny kakashi had to show him how to do it buddy.


ANd once again, yu say that itachi and sasuke would produce patheticly weak clones right?

but up until very recently, naruto's clones have all been sniveling weaklings, yet he has been able to beat people using them right??

Remember sasuke v naruto on rooftop? sasuke dispatched all his clones with out getting a scratch on him

then kimimaru destroyed naruto's taiju kage bunshin horde with his leet bone haxx

infact, the only time naruto's clones have been powefull was when he along with what 6 other ninja ganked the hell out of akatsuki guy??

(while shika took out that other dude by him self! even after his chakura ran out! now thas ah bad man, no chakura and pwning base, a certain fox boy could learn a thing or two from that.)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 12, 2007, 09:46:54 PM
umm exar when naruto fought oro he wasnt 12 O.o hes 16

I was talking about when he first used Rasengan, against Kabuto. Orochimaru was shocked out of his mind that someone that young could master rasengan. So shocked he abandoned his battle with Jiraiya to get to Naruto, hell he was basically trying to convince Tsunade that Naruto needed to be killed.

So that whole summoning manda to save sasuke argument is pretty much null and void.

That makes some sense. Suigetsu summoning Manda by accident that is. That said I need to recheck the whole chapter.
But essentially it still throws the idea that Sasuke can warp himself out of time out the window. Either the space time jutsu is kuchiyose or its the summon Suigetsu used.

And about kakashi and the rasenshuriken

If you would do us the favour and recall what happened there.
Naruto could not wrap his little mind around the concept of molding both wind nature and shaping chakura, he could do one or the other but not both.

So kakashi told him to do his wind rasengan, which is just a swirling ball of wind chakura
and then kakashi told him to press his wind rasengan against kakashi's normal rasengan

and thus the rasenshuriken was born

Wrong. I don't want to start appending mad images to my posts and make it hella long (unless you okay me to do it in subsequent posts) so I'll just link the images.
Naruto's first creation of Fuuton Rasengan (http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0WwCMGDkc7i4fQNtmifgGxcWWhRSIMgvGMj!*Mo7FGedaN3BYTbpwQAdi1lYes3npb9GmHQFtWIpSYtSZjfXTahJJ2HwqQ9YaBq!DXfQeEr!gzznossHCwWJYQdq9frWZCb9mPrRux6Q/P?dc=4675623992525429553)
Now then this is a working elemental rasengan. Kakashi wants him to test out how effective it is by smashing it against his.
Result (http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0WwBMGzocNS8fQNtmifgGxcWWhRSIMgvG0*JM7*2MKbPF9VsAjGusnRzLyJcm5IM7GxJP5bukS5DrNTanFw*VPwdfwxhq9PjeplcS*cnRl4jqxPk3qWSQGlWwe4fNPPigF7A92UXdkjQ/Naruto_v37_ch339_13.jpg?dc=4675623992589583638)
So they smash them against each other. Fuuton Rasengan against Kakashi's regular Rasengan. Kakashi's rasengan gets smoked. And Naruto = Pure Badass (http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0WwAsGzscfC8fQNtmifgGxcWWhRSIMgvGxxFRQz1WYuVXPSQqWUMSzM3wrIIhHup!iIal9lmR0UJfsg!ZjGoK1QocI5cvNjAj4lTFDED8hHRFustmzRA9FKKXhGPt8Qaof9My2**KUYk/P?dc=4675623992633133016)

The first time Kakashi sees Rasenshuriken is when it's used against Kakuzu. Naruto refined the Fuuton rasengan into Fuuton Rasenshuriken. You'll realize that Kakashi is totally surprised by what the technique can do. (http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0WwCMGTscCC8fQNtmifgGxZYrkdJGJ!7BgiIzHg2VhYp7EeNamoJF6*5GZJwY9r30YqJjhhEyzlN6oCQCGC1tMcI8uH*wS9rYDscHPc*Cq9mSjwHBbV15oWoSAqxEUA5feHLkKZYlOg8/P?dc=4675626814460544915)

after that, naruto told him it was like looking left and right at the same time
and kakashi told him it was simple, make one clone look left, and one clone look right
deux ex machina clone learning haxx no jutsu
and naruto then learns how to do it himself.

No need to deny kakashi had to show him how to do it buddy.

Nope. You'll notice in the 1st scan I linked that the fuuton is already present in the rasengan. This is chapter 339.
In chapter 329 Naruto poses his difficulty to Kakashi who does that looking left while looking right thing. (http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0XAAsHqoceVUfQNtmifgGxVnGSwQElpU0VUZ!T3NYVCM*je!Y8snN09grJ6il3c3pflZ642V9TwmuTWc0LnWe*jq9mAmOXscBDRGGP28yxXzZZymD1yZzLcDokrxglwOyyGYsoJXKr14/P?dc=4675623937749034430)
Naruto figures it out (http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0XAAsGascwFUfQNtmifgGxVnGSwQElpU0TKSskorBWuOl4YJV0rvTJiKzv*aVJ1Q4ROjjDr9mljHs!B1m7tu*57OVIqyGBuzoplOcseyVKFiHfo2OQHaZyV4YCaKmsJ2fTXxu2QFATIk/P?dc=4675623937832520641)
Note that Kakashi has no clue wtf Naruto just figured out, he was just trying to be witty by doing that. This is the same principle as when Naruto figured how to make original rasengan with a clone.

The very next time we see Naruto in chapter 330 he is adding fuuton to his rasengans in training. As seen here (http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0XAABD6IcLFMfQNtmifgGxcWWhRSIMgvGl7o8clq!UaPxK2Cwri!nKaUrNq4ZU01lNJmzmRGNNMte08w5r8yA6o1RcX6se4Hi7dlqoPTlju9n0d1mx16chjdpNycLZ!Hh!lqsHKtCHrs/P?dc=4675623940836034221) and here. (http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0XAAdD6Mcc1MfQNtmifgGxcWWhRSIMgvGGcmpJOqi6mXkVxuTL7DzGhtCkIul5FoF0TaylIvwtfwQwhTm1F4a77JDNVa*2CuqXB6bttbfpgSDq5XIEkoJvEf5Cvypf6ecXXYSt3w7DbU/P?dc=4675623940904462594)

Note what Kakashi was saying about Naruto in the bottom right panel in the second scan.

ANd once again, yu say that itachi and sasuke would produce patheticly weak clones right?

but up until very recently, naruto's clones have all been sniveling weaklings, yet he has been able to beat people using them right??

I don't mean weak as in like that, I mean the clones would be weak because they would have access to very little chakra. Shadow clones cause the user's chakra to be spread evenly among his clones. So when Naruto was using 1000 clones each of those clones had a chakra reservoir equal to 0.1% of the amount Naruto has when he's alone. This is why Tajuu Kage Bunshin is forbidden, it makes ninjas too weak spreading their chakra out that far.

So 100 Itachi's would have each have 1% of the original Itachi's chakra. Even at 30% Itachi is unable to use Mangekyou as seen when he fought in the rescue Gaara arc. Not only that but he gets 'killed' by Naruto's Oodama Rasengan. That's how weak he was compared to the normal Itachi.

The only people that can use truly strong clones are Naruto and probably Kisame (assuming he can do kage bunshin).

Edit:
i'm sure he can learn basic Rasengan (kakashi probably copied it himself) and maybe do a RasenganChidori if he felt like it..

Rasengan can't be copied, sharingan needs hand signs to be able to copy jutsu and rasengan has none.
And a rasengan chidori is an elemental rasengan. Nobody but Naruto can and has the chakra capacity to do an elemental rasengan.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on December 13, 2007, 12:30:09 AM
Geez this is getting redundant

Naruto and sasuke are both badasses, end of story

Who better, only time will tell
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on December 13, 2007, 02:04:27 AM
no no, let them continue, this is going good
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 13, 2007, 06:09:05 AM
Sharingan can observe chakra movement as well.. I doubt the 4th hokage sat down and taught Kakashi the jutsu that took him  3 years to create , the only logical way for him to have it would be to have copied it.

 Only naruto has the chakra capacity to do an elemental rasengan the way he does it.. Remember he needs a clone just to do basic rasengan as he can't manipulate chakra that well with one hand .
    Theoretically Sasuke might be able to do an elemental rasengan using just his two hands , one for element and one for rasengan...
  Sharingan can copy ANY jutsu once the user's body is capable of the same feats , Sasuke doesnt' have the same chakra capacity , but he can use less chakra to do alot more.
 
  But i doubt we'll ever see sasuke using rasengan as its not his style, he won't lower himself to Naruto's jutsu just to beat him .
 
  No matter how strong rasengan Shuriken is , naruto still has to CATCH sasuke to use it, and that won't be possible till perhaps he masters Yondaime's flicker jutsu. 

IMO as a ninja , Sasuke> Naruto, as a character Naruto>Sasuke , Naruto will be recognized as the 'stronger' one in the end because of his personality.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 13, 2007, 10:28:16 AM
And so it came to pass...
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/766/post21197533745bg6.th.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=post21197533745bg6.jpg)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on December 13, 2007, 10:35:37 AM
is it just me or does naruto's mom look like inoue...and now we know where naruto got that ridiculous grin from...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 14, 2007, 11:20:34 AM
Raw is out: http://rapidshare.com/files/76497039/Naruto382_Chin.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/76497039/Naruto382_Chin.rar)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on December 14, 2007, 11:47:39 AM
is it just me or does naruto's mom look like inoue...and now we know where naruto got that ridiculous grin from...

yea i find she kinda does...i cant remember, but they never said anything about her dieing did they? for the most they said that the fox was placed in a new born baby

An on another note, cant wait for next week episode, big fight!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 14, 2007, 07:39:16 PM
What an excellent chapter, I swear I was close to tears at some points.
While I'll miss Jiraiya, it needed to happen. Naruto and Konoha at large needs to lose the sense of security someone like Jiraiya can provide. And Naruto needs to grow up on his own now, there's really nothing more he can learn about his unique skills from those left in Konoha.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 14, 2007, 07:45:12 PM
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/382/

translation is out , very sad chapter , very important to story.  Never though that jiraiya's life was so sad .
   Looks like pain might take his body as well..

 Naruto's going to do alot of growing up very fast until he meets pain , hopefully he'll be informed of his heritage and Jiraiya left him a scroll with all his jutsu .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 14, 2007, 08:50:32 PM
???? wtf was sad about this issue???

read it like 3 times to make sure the sad pages didnt stick together or something???
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 14, 2007, 09:51:41 PM
the man was a failure his entire life.. failed to get a woman, failed to stop orochimaru , to save his mentor and his student (3rd and 4th) , and finally failed to stop pain...

  Thats a sad way to die .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on December 14, 2007, 10:03:19 PM
I think with the inspiration of being the 4th's son, naruto will  finally utilize his potential and ability to what we all know he is capable of

and stop being the immature, loudmouth punk he ACTS like sometime.

With his newfound ability and confidence, he should be able to surpass all of konoha's shinobi, and like trini said

really quickly too
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 15, 2007, 12:07:40 AM
I think with the inspiration of being the 4th's son, naruto will  finally utilize his potential and ability to what we all know he is capable of

Except he doesn't know that. And nobody is gonna tell him. The only people we know who know for sure are Tsunade and Kakashi and if they kept quiet to this point, no reason why they won't keep doing so.

Konoha in general either don't know or they know and were ordered to say nothing AND are the most ungrateful sacks of **** in the entire world. Because if they knew he was the son of their saviour, their greatest hero, and still treated him like trash all his life then they all need to collectively die in a fire.
The best chance for him to find out I think is when that toad gets to him and tells him about the key. But that isn't a dramatic way for him to learn about it and wouldn't make a good scene so he won't find out jack.

Edit: And I bet if it was Sasuke dying Crixx neighbours woulda hadda call EHS cause they think he bawling from pain and having a heart attack.
Seriously if you just read it like you're reading that latest licks WI get in the Express you won't feel anything. But read it like it was meant to be read and it's sad to see such a great ninja come to an end, especially thinking he's accomplished nothing.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on December 15, 2007, 10:05:38 AM
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Except he doesn't know that. And nobody is gonna tell him. The only people we know who know for sure are Tsunade and Kakashi and if they kept quiet to this point, no reason why they won't keep doing so.

Konoha in general either don't know or they know and were ordered to say nothing AND are the most ungrateful sacks of **** in the entire world. Because if they knew he was the son of their saviour, their greatest hero, and still treated him like trash all his life then they all need to collectively die in a fire.
The best chance for him to find out I think is when that toad gets to him and tells him about the key. But that isn't a dramatic way for him to learn about it and wouldn't make a good scene so he won't find out jack.

I was kinda thinking it had something to do with the scroll given to the toad by jaraiya. Imagine naruto crying to the toad ero-senin ero senin and the toad says that he left this for you, and within it has all of his jutsu's and the big secret.

I dunno, maybe something like that
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 15, 2007, 10:31:48 AM
Well he calls the scroll the 'storage release' so I don't think it contains any personal or jutsu related information, probably a contract or something for Naruto to keep the toad inside his own body. Who knows anyway.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 15, 2007, 12:13:49 PM
 Jiraiya  obviously did alot of writing.. It would make sense for him to have had at least a short 'If your reading this it means i'm dead..' message. 
    If naruto is lucky , he would have jiraiya's journal containing all his jutsu and encounters..  maybe a wealth of other books as well.

  Using mass kage bunshin he should be able to master all of jiraiya's techniques in a few months.

 There is also 'that' jutsu , probably Jiraiya was trying to teach Naruto to master it using kyuubi chakra during the time skip , chapter 370 hints at that ...



K been reading over the last few chapters.. from it seems that Tobi is really Uchiha Madara , and Pein may be his underling or at least partner..

'The time is ripe' Naruto may not have much time to train , but he is great at learning jutsus at the last minute..

 He and sasuke may end up working together.. or against each other soon , '' His eyes will surpass itachi's''.. They want more mangekyou sharingan for some reason.. Maybe Madara lost his eyesight...  His currant single sharingan is from Obito's dead body and he wants more?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 15, 2007, 12:37:17 PM
I think that's a pipe dream.
Naruto has to keep his underdog,winning by pure guts type look. And having him turn into a less experienced Jiraiya in 2 weeks won't allow that.

I truly think Kishi is going to forget the whole kage bunshin training thing ever happened. I'm just too much DEM if he allows Naruto to use it to the potential that you or I would use it at, which is what a logical person would do.

And Jiraiya leaving a journal for him does make sense, but I'm looking at him finding about about Minato as a very emotional scene, not the kind of thing he'd read in a letter. More likely I expect Kakashi to be the one to tell him at whatever point.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on December 16, 2007, 05:53:27 PM
I think that's a pipe dream.
Naruto has to keep his underdog,winning by pure guts type look. And having him turn into a less experienced Jiraiya in 2 weeks won't allow that.


Really i cannot agree with this one. I think we all support naruto not because of him being an underdog but because he has the potential to be great and we want to see that happen. Naruto cannot become hokage because he has guts. He must have the ability to go with the title.

And i don't see kishi forgetting about narutos ability to learn through his clones. I can see that coming into play really soon. Any who thats just speculation and opinion. At the rate this manga is going anything can happen.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 17, 2007, 09:47:24 AM
Yuh know i've been thinking... suppose Naruto already knows his dad was the 4th? I mean from the VERY first episode they made it known that Naruto wanted to surpass the 4th. Take the relationship between Asuma and the 3rd. We NEVER even KNEW he was his father and they NEVER showed much relation to each other in dialog (true he wasn't a critical character but still). Remember that Shinobi aren't supposed to let their emotions get in the way of their duty (so they say) and it's QUITE pluasible that Naruto has known all along, but with his dying when he was born, sealing him with a demon that made everyone fear him, he wouldn't openly express his feelings save in the form of wanting to surpass him for the village to acknowledge his existence and significance.

On another note, i've been thinking.. since there is another time skip coming I gaze into my crystal ball and see a very apocalyptic future... I see konoha being no more, or any Shinobi village for that matter. I see Akatsuki rampaging through the nin world using an incomplete tailed beast and a hardened Naruto and surviving konoha/other nin village alliance constantly running for their lives and losing comrades like rain falls when pain is around. I see Naruto being the most powerful nin leading the rag tag group of shinobi alliance and having to call upon the true power of the Kyubi to fend off creatures created by akatsuki. I see Sasuke being high ranking in Akatsuki if not the one responsible for summoning the tailed beasts. Sure its very 'Age of Apocalypse' esk and its a pipe dream, however it would make for a FANTASTIC setting where good is on the brink of destruction and we can have a truly EPIC underdog battle between good and evil, Naruto and Sasuke. If it comes to pass, remember where you read it first!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on December 17, 2007, 11:51:52 AM
that wud make a good movie
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on December 17, 2007, 12:40:47 PM

I see Sasuke being high ranking in Akatsuki if not the one responsible for summoning the tailed beasts. Sure its very 'Age of Apocalypse' esk and its a pipe dream, however it would make for a FANTASTIC setting where good is on the brink of destruction and we can have a truly EPIC underdog battle between good and evil, Naruto and Sasuke. If it comes to pass, remember where you read it first!

I like it but there is one flaw. Sasuke is NOT evil. He just wants his brother dead ... at all cost
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 17, 2007, 01:34:43 PM
Whilst he's not fundamentally evil, that's not to say he couldn't sway, he's already walking the path and after killing itachi pain/obito could sway him to their side... forcefully... similar to Deidara's induction.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 17, 2007, 03:51:03 PM
Yuh know i've been thinking... suppose Naruto already knows his dad was the 4th? I mean from the VERY first episode they made it known that Naruto wanted to surpass the 4th. Take the relationship between Asuma and the 3rd. We NEVER even KNEW he was his father and they NEVER showed much relation to each other in dialog (true he wasn't a critical character but still). Remember that Shinobi aren't supposed to let their emotions get in the way of their duty (so they say) and it's QUITE pluasible that Naruto has known all along, but with his dying when he was born, sealing him with a demon that made everyone fear him, he wouldn't openly express his feelings save in the form of wanting to surpass him for the village to acknowledge his existence and significance.

As I mentioned before, this would make the people of Konoha the biggest sacks of **** in the world. If Naruto knew then it would mean it wasn't a secret. So the people were knowingly treating the son of their greatest hero like an outcast.

However I don't believe he knows. He wants to surpass the 4th because Minato is known as both the greatest ninja Konoha has ever produced and also it's greatest hero.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 17, 2007, 04:16:14 PM
Nah I can't agree there Exar. Doh get me wrong I agree they are sh1tbags if they knew and treated him that way, however FEAR is a powerful thing and of course as seen recently in the manga, even Jaraiya had no idea as to the intent Minato had for sealing the Kyubi into Naruto. Thus out of FEAR of naruto being as great a threat to konoha as the kyubi was, he was shun... that isn't even uncommon in reality. How man hero's have been disgraced or outcast becuase of misunderstanding? only to be ratified as heros later on? And it would still all hold together as Naruto can honestly say he had no parents as they both died when he was a baby, he would have a burning will to surpass the 4th AND keep in mind that not all of Konoha shun him as seen with his early relationship with the 3rd (aka most powerful nin at that time alive).
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 17, 2007, 05:13:24 PM
 Winnie's theory is quite plausible... even if it wasn't common knowledge , people with common sense might have thought of the possibility : There aren't many blonde people running around the narutoverse , plus Naruto might have inherited the same apartment the 4th used to use.

   It might even be true.. just to show how great a person naruto is , he's fighting mostly for scum who don't deserve it.

 The next timeskip may take place soon as it doesn't look like Akatsuki is defeatable  , things seem to be coming to a climax which may end in the timeskip .. Like the rain of tears battle did.

Akatuski seems to be wanting to use Sasuke.. ''His eyes will surpass itachi'' , Orochimaru also said that early on , so there may be a grand plan for sasuke after all...

 And lets not forget Orochimaru isn't completely gone , i believe he's still deep within sasuke, a moment of weakness might regurgitate him..
  Oro with sasuke's body may be the last great villain of the narutoverse .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 17, 2007, 05:30:54 PM
I think it more likely that Oro will take over Kabuto completely and be reborn. But I don't think we're all that near to the end either. Part I had 27 volumes and so far we've only completed 13 in Part II.

I think we're going to get some kind of resolution to the Akatsuki and have Oro set up for the main villain role in Part III.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: spinner on December 21, 2007, 07:15:14 AM
RAW out for 383 for those who cant wait   :awesome:

http://rapidshare.com/files/78038027/n383mraw.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/78038027/n383mraw.zip)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 21, 2007, 09:34:26 AM
And so it came to pass... a legend passes on.. he will be missed *sniff sniff* Ero-senin.... look forward to Itachi vs. Sasuke round 3
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 21, 2007, 11:58:13 PM
Goodnight Obito theory. Pain says it straight out. It's Madara and he's the boss. Plotoi!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 22, 2007, 12:39:18 AM
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/chapter383resized.msnw Manga is out ...

 It seems Pain is actually the crab guy.. when he 'disposes' of bodies , he probably turns them into pain shells.

 So pain is defeatable once someone hits the real body a sick jutsu..  Madara  is the one to be worried about...

I'm betting Naruto takes on pain.. and Sasuke Madara maybe with help, thats if sasuke doesn't join akatsuki or follow whatever plan they have for him.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on December 22, 2007, 10:25:35 AM
Goodnight Obito theory. Pain says it straight out. It's Madara and he's the boss. Plotoi!

You're excited, aren't you? Feel kinda good? You want a glass of iced tea? You're going to need to relax after I tell you this so you should sit down.

People are still throwing around the tobi=obito theory.

The difference?

They're saying that madara's -spirit- inhabits obito's body.

Can you believe this s**t?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 23, 2007, 09:49:59 PM
. Is Jiraiya dead?
Kishi : He lives..............................in your heart.
Naruto has to be grown up. Shikamaru also needed to be grown up. And Sakura will have to be grown up, too. Lee? Lee doesn't need to be grown up anymore.

2. What's gonna happen next year?
Kishi : Started with Sasuke vs Itachi battle.
I'm gonna write about mainly Sasuke next year. And Kakashi and Sakura, after that. Especially Kakashi. I can't tell yet but a huge event will happen to him.

3. What kind of way of ending do you do with Sasuke vs Itachi battle?
Kishi : I can't tell. But I have kept this waiting to manga readers for a long time. So I'll have to make everyone gets content with it.

4. Describe the color of Sasuke vs Itachi battle.
Kishi : Glossy-Black

5. Describe the color of Kakashi story which you just mentioned about.
Kishi : Dark Blue

6. You said you're gonna write about Sasuke, Kakashi and Sakura. What about Naruto?
Kishi : Naruto has to wait.

7. Are you gonna write the battle of each member of Hebi?
Kishi : Actually I didn't want to. But Shueisha ordered me to do with something about them.


Oh...F***.
Time to find a new series to follow confirmed. Maybe I better start reading Bleach manga too. Anyone have an opinion on One Piece?
Just what we need...more f***ing Sasuke. :cussing:
I'm going to look back through the previous chapters and see if I can find when this thing stopped being about Naruto. A whole year of Sasuke being an emo bastard.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on December 23, 2007, 10:59:06 PM
crixx just got hard there
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 23, 2007, 11:17:50 PM
^_^ all warm an fuzzy

yu watch
soon enuff

sasuke and friends shall be confirmed spinoff to replace naruto ^_^
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 24, 2007, 02:06:01 AM
Its Kishimoto's manga , i trust him to maintain a good storyline ... A change of pace from following Naruto around all the time will be welcome . Naruto now doesn't need anymore help, all he'll be doing is training using the new mass kage bunshin technique.
   
   
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 24, 2007, 11:50:08 AM
Wow that was DRAGGED OUT... as expected... (the anime I mean) the manga is going well... too abd we gotta wait 2 weeks for the next chp...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on December 28, 2007, 04:48:19 PM
Anyone see the raws? I have alot more respect for saske now...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 28, 2007, 07:11:14 PM
I didn't even think a new chapter was gonna be out today. Now I know to look out for the scanlation. Thanks.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 28, 2007, 08:53:16 PM
as far as one manga says no jump this week
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 28, 2007, 08:59:35 PM
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/chapter384.msnw

384 out somewhat translated.. barely had any dialogue , mostly action .

I don't think itachi is out yet.. but he seems a much weaker fighter than previously thought.. Genjutsu types are supposed to be weak with taijutsu and ninjutsu , his sharingan made up for that until now...
  So it seems itachi is the intel hero with imba nukes and disables , but low hp and basic attack. Sasuke is the plain imba agil hero with dread spells (DOTA analogy.)

 More likely than not this will last at least 4-5 more manga... Itachi still have to buss mangekyou and perhaps sasuke to unlock it
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 28, 2007, 09:19:42 PM
well i wouldnt say hes a weak fighter

look how well his genjutsu was fighting sasuke in cqc

must say ultra uber very well done by sasuke
he probably planned it very well, expecting itachi to fight in that way
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on December 28, 2007, 09:35:51 PM
I'd be amazed if this fight is over in one chapter. Seriously. That would blow my freaking mind. Not to say I'm not content with this outcome...but some fans will be -pissed-.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on December 28, 2007, 11:12:04 PM
for some reason i don't think its actually itachi yet, they could real make this DOA have 1 million counters.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 29, 2007, 02:53:11 PM
This isn't even close to over. I'm CERTAIN that isn't the real Itachi yet. He's evaluating Sasuke even now. This won't be over until Sasuke beats the Mangekyou.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on January 19, 2008, 09:04:28 AM
well guys
385 out since last nite

seems like certain people were right about certain uchiha clan mysteries

i reiterate how amazing itachi's genjutsus are though

and seems like those stories bout the uchihas and the fox are true
very good to know
disturbing revelation by itachi though.. hmmm :(

sasuke seems to have something up his sleave.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on January 19, 2008, 10:03:01 AM
I called it weeks ago, third level to the sharingan, rin'negan made obsolete before it's even properly shown.
One thing confuses me though, why is Sasuke constantly falling for genjutsu? Sharingan is supposed to be able to see through any genjutsu.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on January 19, 2008, 11:14:38 AM
I don't think it's a third level sharingan. I believe it refers to the sharingan's ability to control the fox....and even if it's a third sharingan...you're forgetting shonene rules, Exar. We have no idea what the rinnegan does really and it's been called the strongest eye...but we know that there's a third level to the sharingan. So you know what that means...

Deus Ex Machina vs Deus Ex Machina coming up.

And even if Pain didn't know there's a third level to the sharingan...he knows now (Zetsu).
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on January 19, 2008, 12:14:21 PM
One thing confuses me though, why is Sasuke constantly falling for genjutsu? Sharingan is supposed to be able to see through any genjutsu.

sasuke is not falling for genjutsu. Up to now, itatchi and him hasn't even moved. They have been battling each other with genjutsu. Just to show you how strong sasuke has become. He kicked itatchi's ass in the first leg of the genjutsu battle (384). I can't wait to see the physical part of this fight.

Also, the revelation that madara helped wipe out the clan, whoa! I can see this is gonna be a good year for the manga. And based upon the butchery of the oro vs naruto fight in ship, it might not be such a good year for the anime. Lets hope the get back on track.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on January 19, 2008, 01:42:28 PM
Also, the revelation that madara helped wipe out the clan, whoa! I can see this is gonna be a good year for the manga.

One thing about this though. This pretty much gives Sasuke dibs on Madara doesn't it? Pain is Naruto's and Madara is Sasuke's. So we have a problem. Because no matter how much Kishi loves Sasuke you can't have the main character beat a secondary villain at the end of the series.

So I'm thinking either Pain is gonna get an upgrade that puts him over Madara, or we got more heads that need knockin after this. Return of Orochimaru? Or will Naruto simply face the Kyuubi after Madara is dealt with?

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on January 19, 2008, 02:08:23 PM
Hebi/Sasuke probably turning evil...the rest of the akatsuki...Tsunade's death...Root...Orichimaru's return...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Trinitus on January 24, 2008, 08:20:36 AM
^^^ All well and good, but wheeree Rock lee in all this????
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on January 24, 2008, 11:36:41 AM
I just read the transcript for this week's naruto leak. I think this man's goal is really to write the greatest shonen manga ever.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on January 27, 2008, 03:01:10 PM
after reading the manga i realised something, the first hokage had to have been REAL bad if he managed to defeat madara while he had the new 'unstoppable' sharigan
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on January 27, 2008, 03:29:52 PM
well you didnt read the manga properly then proto

reading it alludes to the fact that it was the first alone that beat madara
it had to have been as trini suggested, that the other uchihas, combined with the rest of the senju clan to defeat madara, there by earning them there place in the newly formed village as the police force of konoha.

So basically madara got the biggest gank of all time.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on January 27, 2008, 04:15:17 PM
IMO naruto will probably be the best shonen manga of all time .


 theres a 99.9% chance that the first got assistance from the other uchiha to defeat Madara , you don't go round killing your family on jones. 

  A hokage doesn't have to fight solo in any case , he's supposed to be able to lead an army of ninja if need be.  Thats probably why Kakashi is the next candidate in line, even though he runs out of chakra fast he is a great leader , other ninja will make up for his weaknesses.

 Remember also Orochimaru made a point of keeping the 3rd hokage isolated so he could be defeated , if he had help from the four ANBU he would not have run out of chakra and had to resort to using the sealing technique.

 
The only other  possibilities lie in the first having  jutsu on par with Madara , The first being smart enough to avoid getting hit by MS .

We'v seen with the clay-bomb dude that the sharingan CAN be resisted to some extent .

Both of them could control the bijuu 'like pets' , so perhaps it was a battle using tailed beasts?
 
That would put it on more equal terms , it would have been down to : Who had the stronger monster , Who had the most chakra to control it longest.

I'm sure it somehow involves the necklace naruto wears , a jutsu involving the necklace that Naruto will one day use.

Its good that we haven't run out of questions , lots of storyline still left to go.

We still have to see Madara die and learn how he was defeated in the first place.

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on January 27, 2008, 04:55:53 PM
Sorry no.
Shodai straight up put a beating on Madara. By himself.
We have straight out statements from Jiraiya that Shodai and him duked it out at VotE and Shodai won. There's no talk anywhere of any coalition of the willing fighting him. And until there is, the manga evidence says it was a 1v1.

Just accept it Uchihaites, sharingan got owned.
Shodai is the original OG of the Narutoverse.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on January 27, 2008, 06:46:19 PM
Quote
Sorry no.
Shodai straight up put a beating on Madara. By himself.
We have straight out statements from Jiraiya that Shodai and him duked it out at VotE and Shodai won. There's no talk anywhere of any coalition of the willing fighting him. And until there is, the manga evidence says it was a 1v1.

My thoughts exactly. Bring the proof that says otherwise

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Just accept it Uchihaites, sharingan got owned.
Shodai is the original OG of the Narutoverse.

Couldn't be more true. Agreed 100%!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on January 27, 2008, 10:53:28 PM
We'll see as the manga progresses , there is obviously more to the story that has to be revealed.

We'v been lead to believe that Itachi was a lot stronger than he really was , some people thought he was THE strongest .

quite possibly everything we know about the uchiha is suddenly thrown out the window : There may have been many MS users , many attempts at getting it at least according to itachi .

I'm still inclined to believe that a Mangekyou Sharingan user with no limits would be nigh unstoppable : fights have been ended , or avoided with ONE use of it , Imagine pelting out dozens of blasts?

There was some technicality involved in the Shodai-Madara fight , Shodai simply being stronger might be reason enough for the rest of the Uchiha to be loyal to him , but i think there's more to the story.

Lets not forget the simple fact : Madara is STILL alive , meaning either he faked his death, or conceded defeat for some reason , and walked away .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on January 28, 2008, 02:04:45 AM
Shodai vs Madara was 1v1 just by the mere virtue that it was a fight over 'village policy'. It was a fight for leadership. I believe when they commented on the irony of the fight between naruto and sasuke at the valley of the end so many chapters ago alludes to that as well. Certainly Madara did not walk away from that fight but was probably just presumed dead.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 28, 2008, 01:36:14 PM
Depending on the wording, the scan I read reffered as sync mentioned a difference of village policy and the first won LEADERSHIP, which does not allude necessarily to a big battle, but rather one that could be interpreted as POLICITAL as well. So sure maybe they did fight, however if all your supporters backing the next guy who are you going to command? it could be that the First AND madara were quite evenly matched, however the First's policies and ideas WON over Madara's and this was more popular and out went the opposition... just a thought.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on January 28, 2008, 03:33:09 PM
i'm inclined to believe Wintry's version , this is one of the drawbacks of scanlated manga.

Even if Madara and Shodai didn't go all out, the level of a fight would have changed the landscape, left some craters etc.  perhaps CREATED the valley in the first place.

It would have been one of the greatest battles in Konoha history , and remembered as such.

Likely it was a matter of politics : Nobody would want to be lead by someone who could kill their brother for power , what if YOU stood in their way?  Shodai would have had better ideas and been admired as such.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on January 28, 2008, 07:33:26 PM
That's just you guys trying to rationalize Madara's loss. Simple as that. Think about it for a minute. Is there any evidence to support what you're saying? Of course not. This ain't the U.N. Shodai and Madara fought over the direction the village would take, you think they was playing 'mercy' or something? The men was fighting full blow without a doubt.

And I dunno who thought Itachi was ever THE strongest. Maybe after he KO Kakashi one might think that, but his run from Jiraiya says otherwise. He's probably pretty high up atm since everybody dying but taking people from part 2 alone I'd say Madara, Pain, Jiraiya, Sasori and Kakuzu would have him pretty much beat.

And I don't think MS firing dozens of blasts is a possibility given what we've seen so far. Unless EMS gives you a discount when you want to use it. Itachi was shown to be completely burned out after using one Tsukuyomi and one Amaterasu. He stated bluntly that he couldn't use MS when he was fighting in the 30% clone. He doesn't have the chakra to be shooting like mad. The only men that could manage something like that is Kisame or Naruto. Of course maybe Madara have chakra like them, idk.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on January 28, 2008, 08:49:01 PM
Likely it was a matter of politics : Nobody would want to be lead by someone who could kill their brother for power

Rain Village. Pain. Etc

Sure... he didn't kill his brother. He just killed a man, his family, his friends, his families friends and and his friends friends. And what is pain viewed as? A God. Again...the allusion to the aspect of history repeating itself with naruto and sasuke is what seals the deal here for me. But I can't say that your view is an impossibility.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 29, 2008, 09:21:23 AM
Based on an early leak on the upcoming manga, it's still quite plausible that the loss was more political than physical (and I ain't no Uchiha or madara fan so that stuff about me trying to rationalize his loss has no bearing on MY opinion). The leak reads that Shodai and Madara were friends very akin to Naruto and Sasuke (which makes sense in the whole plot) I will post it here just so you can see what i'm reffering to and see how I can allude to the fight being both political and physical. If you read my previous post Exar you'll see I didn't say they didn't 'clash swords' however the idea of a political loss versus JUST a battle is what I am getting at. Either way here's the spoiler so far:
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Itachi’s flashback

マダラと初代火影は戦闘に認識した、彼らは共同の理想を持っている。 その後マダラは一族の運命を認識する、マダラは邪念を生じた。
斑和出代火影在战斗中认识,他们有着共同的理想。之后斑意识到一族的命运,斑产生了邪念。
Madara and Shodaime knew each other in a war, they had the same idealism, but finally Madara realized the fate of his clan, and he started to become evil.

初代火影は苦しく諌止して、阻止することができません。兄の同じに親密な2人のよう、昔の友達、生死の相闘 。失敗のちに、数十年、マダラ皆は復讐にいて。
初代火影苦苦劝阻,还是没有阻止。和兄弟一样亲密的两人,昔日的好友,生死的相斗。失败之后,数十年斑都在 复仇。
Shodaime bitterly persuaded Madara but it didn’t work., the two brother-like relationship fellows, good friends, fought each other. After he lost, in 10years, Madara was planning for revenge.

イタチ「友情をみなす恨み、これはうちは一族の運命です、これは汚れた一族です」
鼬「把友情认为仇恨,这就是宇智波一族的命运,这就是肮脏的一族」
Itachi: taking friendship as hatred, that’s Uchiha’s fate, that dirty clan

イタチ「仮に私はあなたの両眼を奪い取、あなたはすぐに苦痛を経歴する、あなたとナルト、マダラと初代火影と同様です。私を殺したの後、あなたはすぐにどんな道を行くか?あなたの生存の意義は復讐することです、だから私を殺したの後、なかった生存の意義であるあなた、うちは一族の邪にあなたの体が現にいる」
鼬「即使我不夺取你双眼,你也将经历痛苦,你和鸣人就像斑和初代火影。你杀了我之后,你将走什么道路?你的 生存意义在于复仇,所以杀了我之后,没有生存意义的你,宇智波一族的邪恶在你身上体现。」
Itachi: Even though I didn’t take your both eyes, you will still live in pain, Naruto and you are just like Madara and Shodaime. After you kill me, what path are you gonna take?
Your existence is only for revenge, so after you kill me, your life is nothing, and the evil Uchiha hiding inside of you will occur.

サスケ「あれは以後の事です!」
佐助「那是以后的事!」
Sasuke: I’ll save it for later (That’s my problem)

イタチ「ナルトの友情、あなたはとっくに忘れた、ただし彼まだ兄になることを。戦闘のちに、初代火影はまだ マダラを寻していると同様です、友達を探索して同様です。あなたとマダラ同様の邪悪、これは変わることがで きない事実です。」
鼬「鸣人的友情,你忘记了,但他现在还把你看成兄弟。就像战斗之后,初代火影还寻找斑的下落,就像寻找朋友 一样。你和斑一样邪恶,这是无法改变的事实」
Itachi: You have forgotten your friendship with Naruto, while he still considers you as a brother. Even after the fight, Shodaime continued tracking Madara, as if searching a friend, You and Madara are both evil, this fact cannot be changed.

イタチ「あなたに目的が活きていなくて、邪にあなたが現にいる、あなたの昔の友達を傷害する。 」
鼬「让你没有目的活着,体现邪恶,伤害你的昔日朋友」
Itachi: Letting you live purposeless life, becoming evil and hurting your old friend

イタチ「及ばなくてあなたは瞳に私を与える サスケ!」
鼬「不如将你的眼睛给我,佐助!」
Itachi: You’d better give your eyes to me Sasuke…!

サスケ「……」
佐助「……」
Sasuke …….


The end

There is also a pic (http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/228/543709f5266ad32abc3109abx3.jpg)

This spoiler is not yet confirmed however with a pic and a pretty sound comparison to the Naruto-Sasuke relation, it fits well with the story. If Shodai was indeed his friend, he would not have killed Madara and considering Madara wouldn't likely have simply lossed and ran away like a b1tch i'd have to say in addition to losing a battle, he lost the political battle which is the far more important point.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 01, 2008, 03:05:18 PM
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/387/01/

low quality translation out on onemanga, looks like sasuke is now one eyed or this is just another feint .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 01, 2008, 03:30:56 PM
Well... I have a theory... what IF.... Sasuke already possesses the Mangekyou Sharingan.. and Itachi get feint? O_O that would be blow mind... Itachi realizes it was a genjutsu  via Sasuke's now revealed Mangekyou and it is more powerful than his own. Sasuke proceeds to layeth the SMACK DOWN ON HIS CANDY ASS... it's just a thought... GG I sound like a sasuke fanboy *W1nTry bathes in rubbing alcohol*.... but it'd be cool though... it would be the biggest WTF moment in Naruto history...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on February 01, 2008, 03:54:47 PM
I think sasuke does posses Mangekyou or atleast some sort of variant of it (kinda like kakashi) cause if I remember correctly he wasnt using normal three tome sharingan when he was 'inside' Naruto and manners the demon fox....Plus, they not gonna have a main character like sasuke go down like that....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on February 01, 2008, 06:42:30 PM
I'll be glad if Itachi leaves him mangled. Time to take Mr. High and Mighty down a peg.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on February 01, 2008, 09:31:03 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/Shermie/itachi-mood.png)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 07, 2008, 09:51:19 AM
We're in for another treat this week pplz!!! here are some spoilers XD

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And a spoiler translation:
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片目を取られて呆然とするサスケェ
Sasuke's in a daze from having an eye taken

鼬「もう片方も貰うぞ」
Itachi: "One more eye left for me."

サスケェ、鼬から離れる。鼬、片目をしまう
Sasuke gets away from Itachi, sans one eye from Itachi

鼬「これが力の差だ、お前とオレの瞳力の差だ」
Itachi: "This is the difference in power between us. The difference in the power of our eyes."

鼬、サスケェの背後に回り羽交い絞め
Itachi has Sasuke's arms bound behind his back

ゼツ「案外早かったね。イタチの勝ちだ」
Zetsu: "Well, that was surprisingly quick. Itachi won."

右目を抉り出される刹那何か時間が止まったのか止まってないのか分からん描写
The moment the left eye is gouged out, there's some scene where we don't know if time has stopped or not

ゼツ「だって月読食らったんだよ。もう動けないんだからあとは好きに料理できるでしょ・・・あ れ?」
Zetsu: "Then again, he DID take that Tsukuyomi blast full-on. He won't be moving anymore, so I wonder if I can help myself to a nice little snack afterwa-....wait huh?"

サスケェの両目は無事
Sasuke's eyes are safe and sound

サスケェ「ハァハァ・・・(ニヤッ 言ったハズだ。アンタがその眼をいくら使おうがこの俺の憎しみで幻は現 実になると」
Sasuke: *huff* *huff* "I thought I told you. It doesn't matter how many times you use your eyes. Hatred will make my dream a reality."

鼬「その台詞、そのまま返しておこう。さっきの月読で己の眼がもがれる幻は見ただろう。ならばそれを現実に してやる」
Itachi: "I'll say the same thing back at you. You saw for yourself the illusion of your eyes submerged through that Tsukuyomi. Now I'll make it a reality."

ゼツ「鼬の醸す空気が変わった!本気になったようだ・・・あの天照が見れるかもしれんぞ
   え!天照を!?そりゃ楽しみだ、やっぱこっち来て正解だった!!」
Zetsu: "Itachi's mood has changed! Looks like he's taking it serious. May even be able to see that Amaterasu of his."
"Huh!? See Amaterasu! Ooh, can't wait to see that! I knew coming here was the right thing!"

鼬、印を結ぶポーズでおわし
It ends with Itachi forming seals
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on February 08, 2008, 04:25:22 PM
I'm probably the only person who was disappointed in this week's chaprer. I really thought we'd have gotten a new twist, a new way for Sasuke to go when he lost his eye
Instead we get the same old "lol im stronger than you thought, i win again"

So instead of reinventing the character we get the same fanboy treatment as always. Of course it ain't over till it's over but that's how it seems to be shaping up.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 08, 2008, 06:44:45 PM
but we learned something interesting : Sharingan probably isn't irresistable as we'v previously thought , a strong ninja with no sharingan might be able to resist it ie. shodai hokage.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on February 08, 2008, 06:58:54 PM
You mean how he beat tsukuyomi? We've known that since forever. Ever since Kakashi got dropped. Itachi said to beat tsukuyomi you needed Sharingan and the kekkei genkai. He never originally said anything about needing MS. At least as I recall.

So Sasuke has pretty much had the ability in him all along.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 08, 2008, 09:33:34 PM
No fanboyism here

but sasuke is a genius ninja who trained under oro, and to think that he doesn't have the power needed to beat itachi's techniques will be silly.

He killed oro because he had nothing else to learn from him. Given that oro was weak at the time is trivial.The whole point is for him to learn from oro and not need him anymore should give you an idea of his power. And after that he kicked deidera's a$$.

So for me the twist is simple. Itachi says you need hate, sasuke got hate, sasuke kicks his a$$. After a good fight of course. This battle was in the making since episode 2 of naruto so, you know, its gotta be.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on February 08, 2008, 10:49:40 PM
I think you're forgetting that Itachi is a genius too, who has far more experience and was trained by Madara.

But my dislike at this point isn't for Sasuke winning, it's for the incredibly lame storytelling we're getting. Just when they dangled an interesting twist, an experience that might humanize his character, it gets pulled away. "Lol I'll never scar my precious Sasuke".
After seeing this the whole Amaterasu build up seems pointless. Because we know Sasuke will make it look like a Genin move now with a triumphant "ha HA!"

Here's hoping it ends quickly and we get back to some interesting characters. The sooner we get to Kisame v Suigetsu the better as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 09, 2008, 12:05:16 AM
I didn't forget I just think oro is the G, lol.

I get what you are saying and agree with it, but it might be fair to say since itachi got those eyes, that is the techniques that he was practicing, and more than likely that is what madara focused on with him. I'm not saying he doesn't have the rest down but almost every encounter with itachi is mangekyo sharingan. But sasuke focused on just about everything else, so it is fair for us to conclude that in addition to all his training, his kekei genkai makes him more powerful than itachi because he is almost immune to itachi's technique.

When you look at it from my POV, it doesn't seem too bad
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 09, 2008, 02:31:35 AM
I was not disappointed with the latest chapter, in fact I am still waiting for sasuke to pull out his MS and drop the bomb of Itachi. Now as far as being able to combat the tsukwhateveritspealt, if appears to me that sasuke used something very similar to when he defeated Oro, also keep in mind that it is a GENJUTSU he was fighting, according to Jaraiya, to defeat a genjutsu, you must use your own chakra to regulate ur flow as that is what a genjutsu does, it uses the opponents chakra to distort the flow of urs, sasuke called forth the Lvl 2 seal, which radically increases his chakra. So if I had to guess, sasuke overpowered the MS genjutsu, in a similar way he over powered Oro in his mind using the lvl2 seal. I am no sasuke fanboy, but its good to see Itachi being showed up for once. I mean its about damn time anyways.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on February 09, 2008, 11:10:07 AM
I think you're forgetting that Itachi is a genius too, who has far more experience and was trained by Madara.

Doubt it. I'm pretty certain Madara is just a moral mentor than anything else. Madara seems like an egocentric jackass. You know...like Itachi. And as much as Itachi is a genius Sasuke has had much more motivation to train eclipse his brother, whereas Itachi, despite being a genius abuses the ever-loving s**t out of his eyes. I actually believe that Kishimoto wanted to have him lose an eye...but remember, he has publishers to answer to.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on February 09, 2008, 12:12:18 PM
I think he had to receive some sort of training from Madara. I can't imagine he figured out how to use Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu all on his own and in such a short space of time. I agree that it probably wasn't the intensive training that Oro gave Sasuke but Itachi was at the same time a much more natural genius than Sasuke was.

But about Itachi abusing his eyes, that's the same damn thing Sasuke does too. While he has about ten Chidori variations he literally depends on Sharingan for everything he does. He simply isn't as prolific a genjutsu user as Itachi is.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 09, 2008, 04:11:30 PM
the difference is itachi is going BLIND faster every time he does it , sasuke could abuse his sharingan all he wants , its not killing him.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 09, 2008, 10:31:50 PM
the difference is itachi is going BLIND faster every time he does it , sasuke could abuse his sharingan all he wants , its not killing him.

My thoughts exactly. Look at how in the previous chapter itachi is holding his left eye after using tsu on sasuke. And that is why, amidst being a natural genius sasuke still has the advantage. Because he does not damage his body unless he "ABUSES" the stages. And at this point, it doesn't seem like he has to.

Its gonna get better. We all know it. Wait until w!n posts up the spoilers again. I don't think there will be much conversation.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on February 10, 2008, 12:25:59 AM
...He's holding his left eye closed because he's about to use Amaterasu.
He did the same thing when he used it the first time.

Everyone seems to be giving the blindness thing too much credit. He is not going to go blind after a couple uses. I agree that he does show off his MS way too much, but using it on Sasuke is hardly wasteful. More like warranted.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 10, 2008, 01:17:29 AM
no both of yu missed the point of the holding the eye


when sasuke broke free of the tsukuyomi
itachi was holding his left eye

and when he was about to use amaterasu hes holding his right eye.

Because in their mythology

tsukiyomi and amaterasu represent the right and left eye of  kami

and susanoo the nose of kami

and itachi showing these simple actions, plays into alot of the fan suggestions on the internet forums.

pretty awesome

like itachi's constant use of crows, which represent the tengu in jap culture
tengu of course being the mythical spirits that ninjas decend from ^_^
itachi's awesometastacious
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 19, 2008, 09:17:28 AM
And I sayeth unto yee BROTHER that I shall LAYETH THE SMACKETH DOWN ON YOUR MONKEY @$$!!!!

(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9184/78563e77xq9.jpg)

Quote
「一瞬だ」「この○は天照と同じだ…絶対にかわすことは出来ない」
「さて…ご希望どおり再現しよう…」「アンタの死に様を…」
Just in an instant. this is equal to Amaterasu, definitely cannot be avoided.
Next, I'm gonna make you see your death again
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 19, 2008, 09:27:40 AM
?? can you tell what it is sasuke did?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 19, 2008, 09:46:50 AM
I gather that he managed to dodge the amaterasu somehow and in turn is about to use 'THAT JUTSU' to rain down lighting on itachi's @$$... that's my guess if the clouds suddenly surrounding the temple are anything to go by... and it seems likely since in that moment Oro stopped sasuke and he held his hand up in the air.. it's a lightning based jutsu on a frightening scale...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 19, 2008, 02:37:38 PM
More SPOILER:
Quote
Zetsu: Unbelievable! He put out fire with fire! Simply focusing your sight on the target makes it burst into black flames! These won't extinguish until the target's been charred to a crisp - works even on fire itself!

Amaterasu erupts on Sasuke's wing.

Sasuke: Guaaah!

Zetsu: So Itachi wins after all! He's stopped Amaterasu. He's going after his eyes.

As Itachi attempts to touch Sasuke's collapsed body, it melts away. Orochimaru's kawarimi!

Sasuke: Just the moment I've been waiting for! (He activates the curse seal level 2).

Itachi puts his hands to his eye and coughs blood repeatedly.

Sasuke "Katon, Gouryuuka no jutsu!"

(Gouryuuka: Grand Dragon Fire)

Dragon shaped flames strike Itachi's right arm.

Both (Sasuke and Itachi) are now panting violently.

Zetsu: They both look exhausted. I'd say they're out of chakra.

Sasuke's curse seal disappears.

Sasuke: I guess this'll be my last jutsu.

Itachi: Drop the act - sharingan detects chakra, and I can tell you're out of it.

Itachi: You used Orochimaru's kawarimi no jutsu to dodge Amaterasu. It's quite effective, but uses up a great deal of chakra.

Zetsu: Oh, I see. Since Sasuke absorbed Orochimaru...

Sasuke: Yeah, I'm out of chakra, alright - all of it went into that last Katon...but you really think I'd come here to kill you, without doing anything beforehand? It's the same...just like Amaterasu...you can't dodge it. Now then, the moment you've been waiting for: my rendition of your death!

Sasuke finally defeats Itachi! Next issue: "The ace up his sleeve!"

That is supposedly the confirmed spoiler text for this week. There are pictures (low res webcam shots) that this was supposed to be taken from... enjoy!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 19, 2008, 04:15:38 PM
so sasuke may have started his "that" jutsu before he even began the fight, since he knew the location where the fight would take place??

hmm
id loveeeeeeeee to see that grand dragon fire, if its even badda lookin dan regular dragon fire then bawww

also, lol sasuke has no more wingz... :( that sucks
naruto should give up his damn tails now
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 19, 2008, 04:42:40 PM
As usual and back to normal crixx makes his retarded fanboy statements... Naruto losing his tail is like a lizard, he'd just grow one back cause its CHakra... we all know u made that comment cause you hating on Naruto :p
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on February 22, 2008, 06:17:00 PM
So if using Oro's technique takes so much chakra, Oro himself musta had one serious chakra pool as he was throwing it around like confetti even in his failing body.
Oro = teh awesome.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 23, 2008, 12:43:04 PM
So if using Oro's technique takes so much chakra, Oro himself musta had one serious chakra pool as he was throwing it around like confetti even in his failing body.
Oro = teh awesome.
Yup, Oro was a DAN no two ways about it... just he was a pedo.. so minus chakra on him for dat...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 23, 2008, 01:08:21 PM
 Orochimaru was first in line for becoming fourth hokage till Sandaime realised he was a perverted maniac..
    Oro arguably has the largest supply of forbidden jutsu in the known ninja world , and enough chakra to buss them all as he sees fit . ....

   Itachi's Sharingan was the only reason why Oro wasn't his daddy... Take it away and he's nothing but a pretty boy as we see.

  The first hokage  could have defeated Madara using similar tactics to Sasuke...  Once you could avoid being hit by any of the Sharingan's jutsu , you can defeat an Uchiha .


This fight dissapointed me though , All the fear we had for itachi seems unfounded , Sasuke is unscathed and about to kill him!
   
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 23, 2008, 02:02:35 PM
I can't say that I am disappointed per say, Itachi is no longer in his prime, much in a similar way Orochomaru wasn't as well... in a sense the best battle we've seen Sasuke in to date was against Deidara. That being said, imho the fight with Pain against Jaraiya was one of the best fights i've seen in the naruverse to date and imho shows that Jaraiya as opposed to Oro had the right to claim the Hokage title (though he didn't). I am wondering now about a fight between Sasuke and Jariaya.. that may have been epic... Right now the series is going through its out with the old, in with the new. Kill off the old big names and bring in some new ones. Its the whole evolution and well there is also the 2nd time skip supposedly coming. The only thing disappointing about this fight so far is that Itachi's Mangekyou seems to have well.. only 2 jutsu... I would have expected dozens seeing as a normal sharingan allows the copy of techniques, then the evolution of that should be many more evolved jutsu.... ah well..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on February 23, 2008, 02:26:02 PM
I think the funny thing is that for all the big talk Itachi has had surrounding him since his introduction, Deidara literally had Sasuke dead to rights if not for that snake bull****. And even then he woulda STILL be in snake world if Suigetsu didn't summon him out.

Deidara is really one of the baddest men it have once he take to the air.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 23, 2008, 05:05:54 PM
Well thats what shonen is about.. defeat your enemies and create some new ones.

Still  a point is to be made : Anyone besides sasuke would have caught hell due to Itachi's Genjutsu alone... Hence Deidera was no match for him,

But a genjutsu immune deidera would have waxed Itachi's @ss fairly easily... If sasuke didn't kill him he very well might have...

Heck , a Genjutsu immune Naruto , Sakura or Rock lee would have won...


I'm betting if the Byakugan protected against Tsukuyomi , Neji would have been able to take down itachi.


Itachi is alot like that other guy with the immortality jutsu.. He had one thing that made him unstoppable , and no reason to develop any other jutsu further.

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 25, 2008, 01:11:12 PM
I think the funny thing is that for all the big talk Itachi has had surrounding him since his introduction, Deidara literally had Sasuke dead to rights if not for that snake bull****. And even then he woulda STILL be in snake world if Suigetsu didn't summon him out.

Deidara is really one of the baddest men it have once he take to the air.
... sounds like we need to revisit this arguament again
since suigetsu didnt save sasuke by summoning him out
sasuke as was argued, time spaced out of the explosion to save himself and THEN was summoned away.

and as far itachi's use of sharingan to copy jutsus, remember when sasuke fought kakashi
he was doing one hand jutsus and mixing them together to create multiple effects at once, thats really hard core.

i think we need to also be very clear that yes itachi wants to kill sasuke
but he doesnt want to blow him up or blow off his head or anything of the such as he needs his eyes to be intact.
So while sasuke just wants him dead, itachi needs him dead but yu know, mostly intact
^_^

and again, we have no idea what really happened with madara... as he is still around and the first is quite dead isnt he ^_^..

and saying things like .if the byakugan could  have stopped amaterasu, is pointless because nothing can protect against it

deidara would have also found that out and end up blowing up himself for no reason either.
Heck itachi could have probably killed deidara with that mass kunai lobbing display we saw.

i doubt anyone except sasuke could have lived thru that madness
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 25, 2008, 02:28:22 PM
true nobody BUT sasuke..

But i think its a bit shameful that sasuke is coming away from this relatively unscathed ... He'll just need a sandwich and a nap to recover unless itachi pulls something out of his @ss....

 
 
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 25, 2008, 02:58:30 PM
Actually I beg to differ, Jaraiya also had a damn good chance against much ANYONE including deidara and Itachi. But that's going off topic. Whilst Itachi does need sasuke's eyes, it would do him no good to DIE trying to save them, thus I think if push come to shove, Itachi will say fiah and get rid of his younger sibling if it comes to it, that being said, we cannot say Itachi is holding back cause even if he destroyed the entire replicant sasuke made using Oro's technique it wouldn't have taken much more out of him to do so. Itachi is going all out here, just face it that sasuke is doing better.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 25, 2008, 03:32:07 PM
oh believe me, iam relishing in the fact that sasuke is being such a monster
but at the same time, itachi controls where the fire goes by focusing on something

so he focused on sasuke's wing so he couldnt run away and wouldnt rip him to itty bitty peices
itachi didnt say he was out of chakura so there may be alot of fight left in him

and as for trini, you would do well to notice that sasuke is now wingless
so he is not unscathed
that would have to be the most awesome sandwich and nap like everrrr for him to just walk away after.

and lastly, no, itachi cannot kill sasuke and not take his eyes, it is all or nothing for him in this fight
if he doesnt get his eyes, he goes blind and has no one elses to take its place.. one brother and all other uchiha's except one eyed madara and all.

soooo yea.. if itachi pull a rabbit out his ass an beat sasuke
lawl sasuke could poke himself in the eyes really hard an buss itachi sweat lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on February 25, 2008, 04:32:52 PM
from over @ SRK

Quote
"According to someone on AS[AnimeSuki?], the last pic is Itachi surviving Sasuke's jutsu and preparing his trump card against chakra less Sasuke, so maybe it will last a little while more. (even if the cloak means Itachi will die).
And can't wait for a translation of Itachi's lines."

"as the far as the images concren, we don't even know for sure what's going...just all pure speculation...but one thing's for sure: Sasuke does have an "exclamation" mark in his quotes, meaning he's shocked by something unexpected..."

Quote
ゼツ「天照と同じかわす事が出来ない術?
Zetsu: An unavoidable jutsu like Amaterasu?

一体どんな術だ?」
What in the world is this jutsu?

空から雷鳴がなる!
Thunder comes forth from the sky

ゼツ「そうかさっきのサスケの火遁はこの為か!
Zetsu: I see. That last Katon of Sasuke was for this!

どういう事?
What's the meaning of this?

あの火遁攻撃の狙いははなからイタチじゃなかったことだ!
That Katon attack wasn't ever meant for Itachi in the first place!

わざと火遁を空にうちあげて大気を急激に暖めて上昇気流を発生させたのだ!積乱雲、つまり雨雲 を作った!
He shot the Katon into the sky on purpose, causing an updraft through the sudden heating of the atmosphere. This created a cumuloninbus cloud, or in layman's terms, a rain cloud!

己のチャクラではなく、膨大な大気のエネルギーを利用して らいとんの術を行う気だ!とにかく人間がチャクラから性質変化で作るものとは規模が違うぞ」
It's not done with his own chakra. Rather, he uses the energy of the vast atmosphere to perform what would be the Raiton technique! Granted, the scope of this is on a different level than what people create from "nature manipulation".


Quote
Sasuke: This jutsu is made of lightnings falling from the sky. I’ll guide em to you.
Zetsu: Just as I thought… Off course it can’t be dodged… They’re faster than the speed of sound!
Sasuke: This jutsu is called “Kirin”.
Sasuke: Get lost with the thunders!
Sasuke raises is hand. A dragon shaped lightning hits Itachi. Itachi lies on the ground.
Zetsu: Itachi… is dead?
Sasuke: It’s over… (he draws back the sharingan).
Itachi: So… Wasn’t it meant to be the realization of my death?
Sasuke: Sh*t!
Itachi is wearing some kind of armour…
Itachi: Without this I wouldn’t be in this world anymore…
You really grew strong, Sasuke… Time to show you my last technique… It’s called Susanoo…
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 26, 2008, 07:37:41 AM
bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww susanooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


although... susanoo is supposed to come out of kami's nose soo.. lol i wonder if itachi goin an hawk at de man lolz
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 26, 2008, 09:34:26 AM
Well if it's a nose thing... maybe Itachi is gonna hurl a nose bleed fireball at sasuke XD
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on February 26, 2008, 11:21:34 AM
*is annoyed*

My only consolation is that Itachi's cloak is off. So you know. Itachi is as good as dead.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 26, 2008, 12:08:55 PM
iam thinking he has something on under the cloak
armor, he most likely prepared for sasuke, justlike sasuke prepared for him

shows itachi's resolve to beat sasuke an take those eyes
hes not gonna wanna destroy sasuke in a way he cant get those eyes
with his vision the way it is now, he knows he cannot let it pass
so this fight may devolve into a brawl lol baww
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 26, 2008, 02:14:27 PM
if this is true i'd accept the fight was dread...  Once again Kishimoto fooled me with his oldest trick... the ' d man dead and d fight over' no jutsu.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on February 26, 2008, 08:51:17 PM
o my....this seems interesting
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on February 26, 2008, 10:10:55 PM
based on this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanoo

we have an interesting technique to see...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 27, 2008, 12:46:01 AM
All this action from spoilers. What go happen when the chapter actually comes out
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 27, 2008, 08:36:52 AM
this is the strip tease before the beatenbeatenbeat start
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 27, 2008, 12:49:47 PM
pfft, ask and thou shall receive!
(http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1378/123930bs9.jpg)

and here's another
(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9898/125540iz7.jpg)

Yes folks, Itachi is BLIND XD
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 27, 2008, 08:48:16 PM
Thanks win you just made and ruin my day at the same time
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Trinitus on February 27, 2008, 10:56:02 PM
ohhh ladd this eries going real bad dude but wheeeyy @ incorporating culture and mythology into modern cultrue forms...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Xerotolerant on February 27, 2008, 11:47:28 PM
i don't get it why is naruto and them still looking for sasuke ?to bring him back? shouldn't they be looking to remove him and his eves from existence? i mean he did abandon the town. maybe later on in secret it would be revealed that tsunade sent out a big squad like that to deal with sasuke rather than bring him back. and then naruto would get all pissy and teary eyed. i could only imagine the theme song for that saga in the anime: "nobody told me -dadada- that i was to kill you -dadada- but that's what you geeeeettttt *rock style guitars and drums begin*

sasuke is the equivalent of them young girls that run off with big man around here. only he run off with a big man who is a known rapist.

um kaguya where/ what game did the sprites used in your sig come from
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on February 28, 2008, 12:33:54 AM
Jump Superstars, probably.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on February 28, 2008, 12:39:26 AM
Yeah thats right its Jump
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on February 28, 2008, 08:28:16 AM
ohhh ladd this eries going real bad dude but wheeeyy @ incorporating culture and mythology into modern cultrue forms...

....where have you been ?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 28, 2008, 02:18:46 PM
Naruto loves sasuke , yall forget the kiss already? 

 Sasuke is the closest thing naruto had to a brother  , naruto values family and friends above all else.  Thats why he wants to save him.

I don't think Sasuke is a direct threat to Konoha unless Orochimaru / Itachi get his eyes.

Likely after he's finished with his revenge, he'll shack up with a girl somewhere and go about
'reviving the uchiha clan' .

It might actually be somewhat logical to make an alliance with Konoha after the whole mess is done : The enemy of my enemy is my friend , Both Konoha and Sasuke have it out for Akatsuki.


Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Xerotolerant on February 28, 2008, 02:41:54 PM
i thought the whole point of hunter nin was to deal with people to prevent secret jutsu and what not from getting out. we betta hope that that girl he hooks up with is not sakura that would make for some lame crossover jutsu. she have no special family move. so that would make for some lame children.

and i'm gonna look into that jumpsuperstars thing. for sure.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 28, 2008, 03:57:06 PM
Hmm let me think about that... Sakura is a Genjutsu type nin as well as a med nin... Sasuke can use Genjutsu, as well as most he copies... Sakura is strong as heck... Sasuke is FAST as heck... I'm not quite seeing how their kids would be lame... in the best case scenario you'd end up with a sharingan toating, fast, strong, genjutsu specialist that can use multiple elements, heal themself and others AND copy others... i'm still not seeing your point Xero
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on February 28, 2008, 05:17:47 PM
But I wonder something, what were to happen if Naruto could 'save' sasuke but has to forsake the hokage title...I wonder if kishi would ever go this deep
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 28, 2008, 05:42:53 PM
I've always liked the idea that at the end of the series, Naruto doesn't technically become the Hokage, but dies saving the village and perhaps sasuke... or  by some twist sasuke become evil (maybe posssessed by madara or some other such ...pain) and Naruto take the ultimate plunge to save everyone thus dying like all the Hokage's before him to protect Konoha. And in the end he is recognised as the 6th Hokage though he never got all the ceremony etc. It'd be a traggic heroic ending but one that I personally wouldn't mind. If it comes to pass remember where yuh heard it first! lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on February 28, 2008, 06:20:20 PM






I've always liked the idea that at the end of the series, Naruto doesn't technically become the Hokage, but dies saving the village and perhaps sasuke... or  by some twist sasuke become evil (maybe posssessed by madara or some other such ...pain) and Naruto take the ultimate plunge to save everyone thus dying like all the Hokage's before him to protect Konoha. And in the end he is recognised as the 6th Hokage though he never got all the ceremony etc. It'd be a traggic heroic ending but one that I personally wouldn't mind. If it comes to pass remember where yuh heard it first! lol

i dont want it to ever end.... :'( but that wud be entertaining



Hmm let me think about that... Sakura is a Genjutsu type nin as well as a med nin... Sasuke can use Genjutsu, as well as most he copies... Sakura is strong as heck... Sasuke is FAST as heck... I'm not quite seeing how their kids would be lame... in the best case scenario you'd end up with a sharingan toating, fast, strong, genjutsu specialist that can use multiple elements, heal themself and others AND copy others... i'm still not seeing your point Xero

are u sure that sasuke's babies will hav sharingan?....wat if they make another bloodline

Sasuke * Hinata - Byaringan

*bak to reality*



what exactly is susanoo.... what does it do what does it look like...anyone knows?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on February 28, 2008, 08:31:07 PM
m guess is that it has to do with the armor hes wearing
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 28, 2008, 09:47:09 PM
Considering that we won't see that till the next chp IN THE EARLIEST... what would prompt you to even ask that? unless you're looking for crixx to step in with his usual asian culture and history lessons?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 29, 2008, 01:56:14 AM
its water based
well water/wind based
so since sasuke went and summoned up some clouds it could help him
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on February 29, 2008, 08:04:32 AM
Likely after he's finished with his revenge, he'll shack up with a girl somewhere and go about
'reviving the uchiha clan' .

With the way Sasuke does move I not sure he get 'the talk' yet. He probably figure he go subdivide like an amoeba and presto! clan reformed!

I thought that lightning thing was kinda whack for a 'that jutsu'. I'm glad Itachi survived it and will be returning fire now.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 29, 2008, 12:41:56 PM
kinda whack my ass!! ultra flikkin bias
for a man actually like that nonsense rasen shruken business

how could you not appreciate the shear awesomeness of this jutsu!!

it most definately has more destructive power than the rasen shruken, and it seems to damage sasuke as well, not in the same way as naruto but it drains his stamina, and since his stamina was one of his weaknesses it makes it fair right. naruto takes massive damage, sasuke loses stamina from his already not ultra great stamina pool.

and even more impressively about the jutsu is that he can undoubtedly launch it more than once, without needing to be in melee range, and faster than anyone can dodge it, so if say he starts tossing it out at the start of a fight with full stamina he can drop it  maybe 3 times before having to revert to pure melee.


as for itachis susano
at first i thought he was wearing it all the time and had it cloaked or something
but it seems more prudent that he summoned it last minute, further proof of his monstrousness, no one fast enuff to dodge the move, but hes fast enuff to summon his armor that is most likely water and wind based, and use the conductiveness of the armor to channel the electricity into the ground and shake off most of the damage.

nice

itachi still has chakura thats amazing, kudos for him please. (sasuke is a bit of a genius as well)

analyzing what went on
the jutsus uses ambient energy to power itself, electricity from the clouds, heat from amaterasu and possibly chakura being pushed out into the atmosphere, so certain fox based people who like to waste a ton of chakura all over the place could end up making his jutsu even more powerful.. :) like fanning the flames of a fire ^_^.


and as i mentioned itachi's chakura reserve
lets go back to what men mentioned of oro

he reallllyyyyyyy is a monster yuh know
i cant recall him once ever mentioning being low on chakura or anything of the sorts
the kind of jutsus he releases one after the other and not once ever seem like hes low on chakura is astounding, yes he physically takes damage and in his weakened body was low on stamina but his chakura pool is either ridiculously massive, or he is just super sicko efficient
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 29, 2008, 01:36:36 PM
Umm crixx I think you meant the dragon fireball not amaterasu... is part of the Kirin jutsu that sasuke does... amaterasu was Itachi's tachnique... that being said, sasuke went CS2 to do it, which means it takes a fair bit of chakra to PREPARE the jutsu to begin with, so we aren't quite certain how many times it can be pulled off, then there's the problem with convection and moisture in the air... I don't see how he could manage rain clouds if he was in the desert country during a really bad drought... if you catch where i'm going... meaning 'that' technique will have other limitaton in terms of WHERE and WHEN it can be performed. It is a very interesting technique and as for you comment about a fox tailed child who wastes chakra like it was a water fight in the ocean, well think of it this way, if you have an UNLIMITED reserve of chakra at your disposal, chances are you'll develop techniques to use it rather than be all conservative.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 29, 2008, 01:49:03 PM
no, iam right about him using the energy from amaterasu to add to the power of kirin
look at page 6, last panel.

as for naruto being wastefull. even if you have an unlimited supply of it, no need to be wastefull,
thats VERY un ninja like.

and as for the desert scenario, it rains in the dessert you know.
just that its so much sand, the water goes straight to the underground aquafirs.

plus it has all that ambient heat, so when he starts raining gourukas into the ionosphere, he will get some nasty lightning storms, which are quite common in dessert land.

but thankfully they live in a verdant moisture soaked land.


and also, did he really go to juin 2 for the jutsu?
like he said, he prepared for itachi, so like i said before, he probably started the jutsu before hand
but when he popped off the gouryuokas, he was in juin 1 wasnt he? not juin 2 and that was after a knockdown drag out fight with itachi.

iam saying if at full stamina, at the start of a fight, before chidoris and tsukyomis go flying
he could just start popping off gouryus and bring the hammer down on who ever hes fighting.

and if he doesnt kill them with say 3 karins.( dont know who the hell could possibly live thru that)

then hed be low on stamina, and have to switch up to melee and light genjutsus.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Xerotolerant on February 29, 2008, 02:22:43 PM
sakura didn't inherit the strength eh that is not genetic. so it would be wrong to assume that her children would inherit that. and the she is a genjutsu type only because she has excellent chakra control so it would also be wrong to assume that her children would have it. sakura is just a regular girl who happen to be good at chakra control that is all. ronaldino children not nescessarily gonna have wicked football skills. does pele's children mash up in football? does he even have children now that i think about it...

it rains in the desert lol it does but by definition a desert is a geographic location that has an average annual precipitation of less than 250 mm (10 in). being a desert has nothing to do with sand whatsoever just thought i should point that out.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 29, 2008, 03:15:28 PM
Nor does it rule out that her children wouldn't inherit her chakra control which is the source of her strength (literally and not) plus we were talking about a Sharingan father which mean more than likely the child WOULD inherit that at least. I was saying in the BEST case it could happen. As for mentioning the desert I was merely giving bad conditions for Sasuke to perform the jutsu, it still stands that he may not be able to use it anywhere and anytime. I don't see the point of that desert rainfall post. That aside, crix he did go CS2 when performing the gourukas.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Xerotolerant on February 29, 2008, 03:31:26 PM
hey hey i not hating on you or anything i was just thinking the same thing  a while before i saw that desert thing so i felt the need to point it out.

and when i said lame children i meant lame in comparison to if he was to marry hinata or some other person with a bloodline limit.

wait a sec i wasn't even talking to you about the desert thing i was talking to crixx.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 29, 2008, 03:53:40 PM
LOL ah well... I agree with you Xero on the Hinata part, but then consider if 1 bloodline takes precidence over the other? it would be interesting if a hybrid was to occur... Byashingan... or Shabuyan or... whatever... but it was stated that the Sharingan was possibly the evolution of the Byakugan.. so... who knows what would happen... actually NOTHING might happen as well as was the case with the 1st hokage... noone inherited his abilities.. so regardless of how uber the parents are... the kids could quite well turn up as blanks (pun intended).... that being said.. considering the major attributes and relationship of a certain 2 nin in konoha... I am beginning to see the benefit of a Naruto - Sakura relation... naruto has RIDICULOUS amounts of Chakra (even without the Kyubi as it was clearly stated by Yamato that his chakra is what allows him to resist the damaging effects of the Kyubi chakra) and Sakura has graet control.. so best case would be a child with an enormous chakra capacity with incredible control... he/she could then use genjutsu as well as many high level ninjutsu as the 'tank' would be larger than most...

I digress... The Susano or however its spelt looks like the skeleton of a human... without a head.. and it does seem that it COULD be wind/water elemental..I would have to lean towards wind as lightning is weak against wind... water could HELP (of course if could just act as a damn conductor as it tends to and have fried...boiled itachi) so I am leaning towards wind... I have an idea of what could happen... its just an idea.. but perhaps this jutsu is some form of soul transfer as well? Itachi could possess sasuke using this last jutsu... then they would be one! without the dismemberment of eyes that is... we'll see hopefully in the next chp... IF they change to the other teams now... that would SUCK B@LLZ!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Xerotolerant on February 29, 2008, 04:01:02 PM
i thinking that susanoo thing would probably be the ultimate taijutsu after i read it. cause like that onlooker said(cyah remember he name nah) right eye=ultimate ninjutst, left eye = ultimate genjutsu, so the only reasonable thing now would be the ultimate taijutsu, which would mean sasuke ass is grass cause if i remember correctly earlier in the series they say that taijutsu is the bane of the sharingan.
ooh geed if they switch to the other fight now that would be reaaaaallllll mess. nah boy  that would seriously suck @$$..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 29, 2008, 04:07:28 PM
I doubting it's taijutsu cause sasuke is actually a better taijutsu user than itachi... that aside, he's now either blind or enable to use the Mangekyou... so even if it IS an ultimate Taijutsu technique.... its not necessarily anything to do with the mangekyou. And who wants to take bets that they switch to either naruto or team Hebi next? XD
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Xerotolerant on February 29, 2008, 04:18:41 PM
we can't say sasuke better than itachi with taijutse cause they never actually show itachi doing any taijutsu.
and who needs sight if you could level a mountain at the flick of a wrist? taijutsu is all i could think about after seeing that skeleton thing hoss.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 29, 2008, 04:29:20 PM
Sasuke's Kirin is  on the same level of plain damage as Rasengan shuriken, but much more useful in that it is a ranged attack, Sasuke doesnt' expose himself to harm in the process,  and almost no one can dodge it.


This will obviously be some limitations , and variations of damage depending on weather conditions : This Kirin would be very strong due to all the chakra and heat from the fight , and the natural abundance of moisture in the fire country . 
    A ninja who could manipulate weather conditions could perhaps find a way to prevent Sasuke from using it... 
    Under different conditions Kirin could be weaker , obviously strong enough to dispatch a bunch of average Jounin with no fuss, but not strong enough to knock off say , Naruto in one blast.
 
 Basically Pain, who maco the whole scene , might want to check the local weatherman before he picks a fight with sasuke .

I'd imagine a Sakura-Naruto hybrid would be even stronger than Naruto in some respects, with Sakura's chakra manipulation, he/she would be able to form rasengan with one hand and be proficient at a host of jutsu , possibly becoming like a second Jiraiya .

  With Naruto's Chakra capacity , the child may be able to use rasengan shuriken with just one clone due to far more efficient manipulation and chakra use , and perhaps combine it with many more elements .

 So rasengan would be the base of a plethora of elemental jutsu : flaming rasengan , lightning rasengan etc. 

 It would be in line with kishimoto's theme of 'The new generation surpassing the old' .


 If Kishimoto's publishers do get greedy, i could see a possibly spinoff series involving Naruto's Children... or a son named Naruto self .

  But hopefully it will end with the prophecy being fulfilled of one great ninja ending war once and for all.


I don't think Susanoo is a taijutsu ,  its an Ultimate defence technique like Neji's Kaiten  , probably can be damaging at close range too.

Itachi is a bit incapaciated due to being blind... He likely can still fight with sound , but his movements will be even slower as sound is much slower than light .

will be an interesting fight.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Xerotolerant on February 29, 2008, 07:55:46 PM
susanoo appears to have a tangible form so i wouldn't be too surprised if it is something like a puppet controlled by his mind or even  armor surrounding him that he controls with his mind much like how ishida controls his limbs after the nerves are severed if you get what i'm saying. that would essentially bypass all of his injuries and make his movements more or less fresh. ultimate defense kinda make sense too, or kishi could just get carried away and make susanoo like a giant mecha resembling a skeleton and controlled my itachi's mind with some kind of ridiculous continent shattering beam or something. or better yet rain plushie  weasels from the sky. either way this is all speculation. i still think they would pass it off, whatever it be, as ultimate taijutsu, it's just the next logical step after he buss out the ultimate ninjutsu and ultimate genjutsu.

i don't see naruto ending anytime soon though cause even after the itachi fight real fight have to down on and if all them fights happen like this one this could go on till next year, easily.

then fellas still have to deal with tobi(i still skeptical about tobi being madara eh but that is a different topic so i'll still refer to him as tobi).


pain has to be dealt with, i think tsunade gonna have to pass through to deal with him and probably die, assuming jiraiya really dead in the first place.

then the rest of akatsuki gonna have to be dealt with, the tailed beasts still aint do anything major, gara's situation is still more or less a cliff hanger... and the list continues. so i thing the rumors that naruto gonna end soon is probably false, what i could see happening though is Sasuke taking Itachi's eyes, Naruto dying and the series renamed to :"shonen jumps: Sasuke". complete with a theme song to reflect that lol.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on February 29, 2008, 10:05:05 PM
I dunno why you hatin on Naruto for Crix. He's fighting exactly how Jiraiya tell him to fight. Is Jiraiya himself who said that Naruto shouldn't bother training himself for chakra efficiency like normal ninja since he has mountains of it.

And the reason I said I thought it was whack was the whole "creatin a thunderstorm" thing. I was just *facepalm* at that.
But did Itachi genjutsu him or something at the end there to escape it, or did it hammer him fully? I read the chapter like 8 this morning, help ah man out.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 05, 2008, 11:22:00 AM
It's that time again

W1nTry's Naruto Manga SPOILER segment

If you don't want to know, then skip over this thread, otherwise feast ur eyes!

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Verification: Confirmed
Source: Vered & Hexa @ NF (original by Doku)
Credits: Translation by Iwanin

Just a note: the spoiler is from Doku, so it's legit.

It's the same that's been posted previously, but this translation is er, more accurate.

Amen.

EDIT: Inserted pocketmofo's trans for the explanation of what Susanowo looks like...

サスケ[スサノオ?]

Sasuke: Susanowo?

イタチ[月読と天照、二つの能力を開眼した時にこの目に宿ったもう一つの術だ。 お前の術はこれで終わりか?隠している力があるなら出し惜しみしなくていいぞ。ここからが本番だ…」

Itachi: A jutsu I acquired upon awakening both Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu. Have any jutsu left? If you do, now's the time to use them, because this is it...

ゼツ「空が晴れていく、さっきの術は一発が限界のようだな」

Zetsu: The sky is clearing...looks like that jutsu's just good for one blast...

イタチの周りの骨みたいのが実体化してくる。山伏みたいなスタンドみたいだな(笑)

The bones around itachi begin to materialize.*

*pocketmofo's trans on the description for Susanowo: It looks kinda like a monk (called a Yamabushi who generally live deep in the mountains and who Tengu often dress like) or a “stand” out of Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure (*laugh*).


サスケの頭の中で大蛇丸が囁く。

Orochimaru whispers into in Sasuke's mind...

大蛇丸「あげるわ。私が力を貸してあげるわ。」

Orochimaru: I'll be more than glad to share...you can have my power, darling...

サスケ[くそっ…」サスケひざまずく。

Sasuke: Dammit! (falls to his knees).

大蛇丸「私が必要なんでしょ…イタチに復習するんじゃなかったの?さぁ私の力を解き放ちなさい。そうすればあなたの願いは…」

Orochimaru: You need me, Yes? Was it not revenge on Itachi you were after? Well then, release my powers...and I shall make your wish come true!

サスケの肩から白蛇が膨れ上がる!ヤマタノ大蛇出現!

White snakes erupt from Sasuke's shoulders! Yamata no Orochi appears!

イタチ[この感じ大蛇丸のヤマタノ術か…」

Itachi: This sensation...Orochimaru's Yamata no Justu...

ゼツ「なんだありゃ?サスケ自身のチャクラが無くなったのにも関わらず無理に力を出そうとしたからだ!取り込んで抑えてた大蛇丸のチャクラが表へ…!」

Zetsu: What the hell's happened just now? (the remainder of the dialogue is probably the other Zetsu's answer) Sasuke kept pushing himself despite the fact he was out of chakra, that's what! Orochimaru's chakra, which he'd managed to suppress until now, was set free!

スサノオが剣を作る!

Susanowo creates a sword!

ヤマタノ大蛇が襲いかかる。スサノオ剣で頭を切り落とす!
残った蛇の口から大蛇丸がでてくる!(笑)

Yamata no Orochi attacks! Susanowo chops its heads off! Orochimaru emerges from the mouth of the final snake.

大蛇丸「アハハハーー!ううえっ…」

Orochimaru: Aahahahah!

口から剣を出す。

He produces a sword from his mouth.

ゼツ「相変わらず口からゲロゲロとキモイヤツだなぁ。文字通り蛇のようにしつこいヤツだ]

Zetsu: Hasn't lost the disgusting habit of spewing in battle... He's persistent, I'll give 'im that.

大蛇丸「これよ!これを待ってたのよ!あなたのおかげでサスケくんの抑えのチャクラが消えてくれたわ!これを機にあの子の体は私が頂く!そして…!え?]

Orochimaru: This is it! This is what I've been waiting for! I must thank you for depleting the chakra that restrained me! Now I make this boy's body my own... and then! Eh?

スサノオの剣が大蛇丸を貫く!

Susanowo's sword cuts Orochimaru through!

大蛇丸「この程度の攻撃でこの私がやられると思って…!この剣はまさか…十拳剣?イタチアナタが隠しもって…くっ!]

Orochimaru: You think an attack such as this is enough to defeat - ! This sword...it can't be... Totsuka no Tsurugi? Itachi, you'd been hiding this ... kuh!

大蛇丸が溶けてなくなる。

Orochimaru melts away into nothing.

ゼツ「通りでいくら捜しても見つからないはずだ…実体のない霊剣だったとはな。十拳剣。別名酒刈太刀と呼ばれる封印剣」

Zetsu: No wonder it was nowhere to be found...to think it was a spirit sword devoid of matter...Totsuka no Tsurugi. A sealing sword, also know as ????? (dunno how these characters are supposed to be read: to begin with, I'm not sure the Totsuka no Tsurugi reading, which is the only one I found for those characters, is correct.)

ゼツ「突き刺した者を酔夢の幻術世界に永久に飛ばし封じ込めてしまうと呼ばれる…剣そのものが封印術を帯びた草薙剣の一振りだ…ずっと大蛇丸が探していた剣だ…瞳力…それにこれだけの術やっぱりイタチはすっげー強え!

Zetsu: A Kusanagi no Tsurugi embued with Sealing Jutsu, it is said those it pierces are forever sealed away in dreamlike state of genjutsu...Orochimaru's been looking for it forever...He boasts not just Douryoku...but jutsu this powerful as well! Itachi's really something, alright!

*Douryouku: power of doujutsu (lit. eye power).


サスケの体からヤマタノ大蛇が切り離されスサノオのトックリ?に吸い込まれていく。サスケひざまずいたまま。

Yamata no Orochi is split from Sasuke's body and swalloed by Susanowo's (turtleneck?). Sasuke remains on his knees.

イタチ[仕上げだ…サスケ」

Itachi: It's over...Sasuke.

その目を狙いイタチがにじり寄る!

Itachi approaches to claim the eyes!

次号[オレの目…」へ!

Next time: My eyes!


A little on the associated mythical background:
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Totsuka no Tsurugi (十拳剣), or "The Sword Ten Hands Long", was first used by Izanagi to kill his son, the fire god Kagutsuchi, who killed his wife, Izanami, during childbirth. After trying to retrieve Izanami from Yomi (the underworld), Izanagi went through a cleansing ritual in which Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susanoo were spawned from his eyes and nose.

More relevant to this chapter of Naruto, the Totsuka no Tsurugi was also used by Susanoo to kill the Yamata no Orochi. The blade of the sword broke as he did this, but within the Yamata no Orochi he found the Kusanagi no Tsurugi.

Ways... Oro make he big re-debut to get WTFPWNED!!! I wonder how Sasuke gonna get outta this now... anyone else smelling Mangekyou?

Oh... where are my manners... spoiler pics  :awesome:
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Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on March 05, 2008, 12:36:56 PM
oM<FG


hopefully sasuke dies....i want that mofo to die....then it'll be Naruto vs Itachi (forgive my n00bish comment)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on March 05, 2008, 01:36:16 PM
well, exar it wasnt a genjutsu

itachi summoned the armor super mega hyper one armed fast and used the armor to channel the brunt of the force into the ground and the air around him. he still took damage, but he seems to be more hardmatic than his size gives him credit for.

hes looking alot like his dad with his akatsuki cloak off too..

w00t at oro daddy coming back though, hes still not dead dead, member hes all making kabuto into a borg ^_^.

Well, the made sasuke into a kinda naruto by having him use up a portion of his chakura to surpress oros.

so now that oro is out of his body, maybe he'll have some chakura left.

and the armor and sword, being all immaterial would seem wind like right.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 05, 2008, 01:39:00 PM
I surprised crixx eh make no comment about Oro getting pwned faster than Michael Jackson in a federal prison caught red handed with a little boy....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on March 05, 2008, 06:57:40 PM
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Though she was persuaded to leave the cave, Susanoo was punished by being banished from Heaven. He descended to the province of Izumo, where he met an elderly couple. Seven of their eight daughters had been devoured by the eight-headed serpent Yamata-no-Orochi and it was about to come for the eighth, Kushinada-hime (櫛名田比売, Kushinada-hime?). After the couple promised their daughter's hand in marriage to Susano'o, he agreed to slay Orochi. With the aid of eight bowls of sake (one for each head), Susano'o decapitated the monster once it had fallen asleep.

From one of Orochi's tails, Susanoo pulled out a sword, which he named Ama-no-Murakumo-no-Tsurugi ("Sword of the Gathering Clouds of Heaven"), later known as the Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi. The sword was presented to Amaterasu as a reconciliation gift and was later given to her descendant Ninigi along with the Yata-no-Kagami (a mirror) and magatama (sacred jewels) as proof of his divine right to rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanoo


Kishimoto is masterful with the plot  ,  the  Naruto-Sasuke relationship is known as  'foil' in literature , one is the opposite of the other to enhance the qualities of both .

 They both have monsters inside them that grant them power : But naruto's was put in him unwillingly , probably shortening his lifespan and making him a social outcast , but he makes the best of it .
   Sasuke willingly accepted the curse of having orochimaru inside him for power.

 Sasuke is a natural genius that uses his talents for his own agenda , Naruto gets by on guts and hard work but fights for others...

As long as Kishimoto can keep upping the ante with the plot , Naruto will be the best shonen ever.


Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 06, 2008, 10:07:18 AM
Well considering what happened to Oro in the soon to be out latest manga... Oro not really around anymore... sure sasuke will have the CS... but that uses a ridiculous amount of chakra and can only be used a finite number of times... it's all good though, whilst having Oro as a source of power was kinda cool and made him have another trump card against Naruto, Sasuke is already imba... so its better this way. Now for Naruto to upp the ante again since Rasenshiruken has been classified as LAST RESORT.... I really wondering how Sasuke gonna get out of this... I propose 2 possibilities... 1.Kishi pulls another Deus Ex Machina (or whatever the term is) and TADA! Sasuke has the Mangekyou. or 2.Sasuke loses and eye or BOTH and is forced to become a B@D @$$ blind swordsman of sorts... whom is inherently immune to genjutsu has heightened senses and is even more imba than before.. lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on March 06, 2008, 10:12:56 AM
i think yanking out his eyes would kill him... yeaaahh....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 06, 2008, 10:32:19 AM
i think yanking out his eyes would kill him... yeaaahh....
They brought back Gaara..... blind sasuke it is!!! lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on March 06, 2008, 10:39:32 AM
lol, men already assuming sasuke done for!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on March 07, 2008, 05:13:41 PM
My reaction to the first 3/4 of the chapter: OMG ORO! PLOTOI!! KISHI I LOVE YOU!!
My reaction at the end of the chapter: He ent even last half a chapter...dat soooo lame...somebody bring out Kisame quick/I wonder if the new Bleach chapter out.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 07, 2008, 06:05:06 PM
Yeah I know where yuh coming from... Hydra technique and thing... and POOF.... *insert minute man comment for comic effect* but seriously... man make a cameo LOL. But on a real... Sasuke look FCUKED-no-jutsu... unless like I said before... Deus Ex Machina...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on March 07, 2008, 06:56:33 PM
I loved this chapter...especially because it seems as if it was scripted to be anti-shonen.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Xerotolerant on March 07, 2008, 10:36:47 PM
told you susanoo woulda be some kinda mecha thing lol. umm orochimara probably not dead you know fellas it wouldn't be the first time orochimaru get obliterated and just climb out something else.hmm maybe sasuke ass this time?. now that i think about what wrong with that man? all this nasty climbing out himself and thing. why doesn't he just use flippin shadowclones like everybody else?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on March 11, 2008, 02:45:03 PM
early trans

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Susanoo absorbs the giant snakes, but a white snake escapes.
Zetsu: What on earth is that jutsu of Itachi's?
Itachi keeps coughing.
Zetsu: This so-called Susanoo is accompanied by a fairly high risk... but since Sasuke's Sharingan has already been deactivated and Orochimaru's power has also been removed from him, isn't it Itachi's victory?
Itachi: Your eyes are mine... I will take them now.


"cough, cough" Itachi coughes out a lot of blood.
Zetsu: Huh, what's going on? Something doesn't look right.
Susanoo is vanishing.
Grabbing this chance, Sasuke throws out a kunai.
Susanoo blocks it with his remaining physical form.
Itachi's eyes keep bleeding, but he continues to advance. Itachi's slowly approaching!
Sasuke: Shit!
He takes out a scroll and throws another kunai but it is blocked by Susanoo with his shield.

Zetsu: That so-called Susanoo, his shield can bounce back all the attacks. It's one of the three sacred treasures, the mirror Yata no Kagami that is claimed to be capable of bouncing back all the attacks. Together with Totsuka no Tsurugi that's used in offense, it's totally invincible.
Itachi: My eyes...mine...
Sasuke hurls out the sword fasten on his waist. Again, it's blocked by Susanoo.


"Guu" Sasuke can't escape because Susanoo has transformed into a wall.
Itachi extends his hand towards Sasuke's eyes. Sasuke's knees tremble.
Itachi is mumbling something but it's inaudible.
Sasuke:!
Itachi extends his fingers towards Sasuke's eyes, but at this very moment he suddenly loses his consciousness. His fingers hit Sasuke's forehead.
Sasuke is petrified (only figuratively :P). Susanoo disappears. Itachi collapses. Zetsu sweats. Meanwhile, another white snake escapes.
An abrupt ending for the fight to the death. Why? Next chapter, Sasuke's victory.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 11, 2008, 03:20:31 PM
I read this earlier but was too busy to post... looks like Itachi ran out of juice.... no energizer battery for him! kinda sad though, Itachi would go out cause of attrition... but then I guess that is a very valid way to  win a fight... Now onto some other possibilities... seeing as Itachi wished to surpass Madara and it's somewhat clear that Sasuke even without the Mangekyou is quite strong... dare I even say stronger than Itachi without his mangekyou... logic seems to extend to Itachi realizing that Sasuke with a Mangekyou would better surpass Madara tham himself and in his very disabled and damaged state would ultimately be the better successor... maybe he 'showed some last minute love' for his younger brother. (Yeah I know WTF, YEAH RIGHT!!!) but hey yuh never know...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: spinner on March 12, 2008, 12:52:47 PM
yea i think theres some truth in that brotherly love theory win, itachi always used to do that to him when they were younger
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on March 12, 2008, 02:08:17 PM

My reaction to the first 3/4 of the chapter: OMG ORO! PLOTOI!! KISHI I LOVE YOU!!
My reaction at the end of the chapter: He ent even last half a chapter...dat soooo lame...somebody bring out Kisame quick/I wonder if the new Bleach chapter out.

Agreed on all counts there lol. Then I realise that Orochimaru STILL might not be not be dead, a la Kabutorochimaru
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on March 14, 2008, 08:11:53 AM
What if another twist occurs next episode? Sasuke leaves Itachi's supposedly dead body, which is taken over by Orochimaru's white snake?

  A blind Itachimaru would still be extremely dangerous  ,though i doubt he'll be able to copy jutsu he can't see, he has Susanoo and a pile of Orochimaru jutsu.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 14, 2008, 08:49:35 AM
I was thinking... considering Madara took his brothers eyes and gained an eternal Mangekyou... wouldn't it be more effective once 2 ppl acheive the MS that they just swap eyes while they're still good? I mean if the trick is getting a new pair then if the 2 pairs are still in good shape then swapping could result in 2 ppl with the eternal MS... and I mean brothers.. come on... it's ur bro... that aside... I think you're onto something there Trini, if sasuke leaves Itachi's corpse even if he is indeed dead... with those white snakes prowling around and Oro's numerous forbidden-raising-the-dead techniques... I can forsee a Itachimaru in the making... he may or may NOT have the Mangekyou... or the plain sharingan for that matter.. but I wouldn't put anything past Oro... allyuh see what coming right? we have Kabutomaru, now potentially Orochi or Itachomaru... man just taking over and making even more dread enemies for the future...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on March 14, 2008, 09:44:13 AM
I think a large part of the process is the cold blooded hatred it takes to kill your own brother...
   Just as it takes killing your best friend to unlock the mangekyou in the first place..

 It involves choosing a path of hatred and power over a normal , cushy , happy go lucky existence ..
 
 I don't think swapping eyes will just do the trick .. There was probably a curse put on the Uchiha clan that forces them to this fate .


to get MS in the first place you need to kill your friend ,  i wouldn't trust anyone with that much lust for power with my eyeballs in the first place.. another obstacle to just a plain trade.

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on March 14, 2008, 07:28:58 PM
I can't say I disagree with the fight ending this way. I'm glad that a limit was finally put on Sasuke. The less experienced genius can't beat the more experienced one.
First good move I've seen by Kishi in a while. That said though, we've got no known limits on Itachi's new powers so we're gonna have to endure another round of universe crossover versus topics that have Itachi beating Goku and other such nonsense.

Now then how about some...KISAME!!
Oh and I support Orochimaru coming back as a badass in any way or form. I doh care if d man take over a manicou and start bitin man ankle, once he bitin dem ankle like a serious shotter I happy.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on March 22, 2008, 10:48:16 AM
The Narutoverse has a serious problem.
That fire look like it gonna burn down d whole world the way it movin.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 22, 2008, 11:43:38 AM
Well so much for Oro... man last snake get bun up... and yeah that fire seems to be spreading fast... which means its only a matter of time before it reaches team kakashi and co. That aside, a while back I had posted a theory about Itachi... along the lines of 'what if' isn't as bad as we all thought he was and all this time he was protecting his brother.... perhaps Itachi knew he wasn't able to surpass Madara and to save sasuke he went through all this to push sasuke to an even greater level than he is in the hope of Sasuke one day defeating Madara... a feat he was unable to do... Now to extend this theory, suppose as plant boy was saying... it's strange Itachi seemed not himself (though yes he was going blind and all) but what if, there was a constant fight between Madara and Itachi.... I mean think about it.. Itachi has no particular reason for using the MS very often... there aren't many opponents that would require that kind of power... what if Madara was also after Itachi's eyes? if by taking his brother's eyes it gave birth to a new jutsu plus the combination of his one MS.... then a third iteration would possibly be even more powerful and give birth to yet another ultimate jutsu... what if Itachi was constantly battling Madara maybe even within the genjutsu world or mind's world and as a result it took it's toll on his body over time... it's all just speculation of course but feasible imho... if it comes to pass then just remember where you heard it first  :icon_pirat:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on March 22, 2008, 12:57:25 PM
it seems to have ended with a 'brotherly love' scene, wintry's theory might be true . Itachi realised that he could never beat madara , so he forced sasuke to hate him so much that sasuke could do the job.

 As long as Madara lived , the lives of all uchiha were at risk, so perhaps the whole thing was to finally redeem the legacy of the uchiha? 
   
  A new uchiha clan with Sasuke as founder would be far stronger .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: whiteface on April 04, 2008, 07:47:53 PM
Things real heating up now. Madara take off his mask sayin that Itachi is not what he seemed to be .(If they come and say that he was good all along ill be PISSED)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on April 05, 2008, 12:14:43 PM
 actually it would be the most likely thing , it would transfer all of sasuke's former anger onto killing Madara because

 ' you made me kill my last remaining family member , and you killed my family!'.

 The shocking thing would be to find out what madara's plan was all along, is it revenge? Does he require Sasuke's body to survive?

episode 54 isn't bad , i guess we'll just have to get used to the slow no @ss pace.


BTW , going through the manga i notice Episode 54 covers 2 manga chapters , and 55 should also cover two , not back to the original pace but faster than before i think.

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on April 05, 2008, 07:02:38 PM
It's pretty certain that Itachi was simply following orders all along, even if that meant he let Sasuke think he killed the clan.

I've pretty much given up on Shippuden, I watch every so often to catch up but I don't anticipate it with any sort of fervor. Frankly Bleach is beating the hell out of Naruto right now, both anime and manga.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: whiteface on April 05, 2008, 11:07:51 PM
If Itachi was good all along that would completely spoil the flow of the plot. And personally I think Kishimoto is better than that, making something so obvious happen.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on April 09, 2008, 03:53:29 PM
Hmm interesting... Trinithemc actually got something right...
http://www.carigamers.com/cms/forums/index.php/topic,9585.msg146359.html#msg146359 (http://www.carigamers.com/cms/forums/index.php/topic,9585.msg146359.html#msg146359)

That aside though, I was searching for a previous post of mine to say HA!!! As I said then i say now!!! but unfortunately I can't find the Naruto Theory thread where it was posted... and a search for it in existing threads is turning up naught... anyways some may remember but I had put forward a theory that Itachi WAS INDEED good, and that he was doing it to protect his brother sasuke... by the spoilers for this week that i've seen... it seems as though I was right.... O_O

here's a spoiler and its supposed translation:
(http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/538/031380lu1vb5.th.jpg) (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=031380lu1vb5.jpg)
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Tobi: .... you must listen (as it is your responsibility?)

For all shinobi... for all of those in Konoha, and ultimately for his little brother, he had risked his life. Your brother Uchiha Itachi's admirable way of life!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: whiteface on April 10, 2008, 04:19:35 AM
Ack..... ill throw up if this guy is good..... That whole fight.. Itachi's existence will be crap.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on April 10, 2008, 04:42:35 AM
If this is right, I hope they realllly do it well. How would they explain Itachi's behaviour throughout the fight? After all the stuff that Itachi revealed  - his 'true form' at the beginning, the maniacal laughter and demonic image that Sasuke saw, I hope they don't chalk it up to just acting, or genjutsu. It's not that this was never a theory; in fact, I remember reading an old one a good while ago about how Itachi may have been blackmailed into Akatsuki from the beginning, or that it was a deep-ass ANBU mission.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on April 10, 2008, 08:45:04 AM
could it be that itachi was jiraiya's informant ?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on April 10, 2008, 10:51:37 AM
Look at how I done read shonen, yes.


Edit: Sasuke has Amateratsu and probably an EMS.

(http://kaze1028.myweb.hinet.net/3.jpg)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on April 10, 2008, 02:12:34 PM
I see nothing wrong with Itachi being good. And even Jaraiya's informant... in fact it makes sense.... sharkman asked itachi why he didn't (basically take on Jaraiya) and Itachi was forced to use Amateratsu... however if you think about it... he could very well have used it directly on Jaraiya for a one shot K.O. but as his informant he chose to run and even use a powerful jutsu just to make it seem like it was indeed a bit of a fight against an adversary... also I think it makes sense all of Itachi's behaviour that is. He did it to PUSH sasuke to surpass even him (itachi) as it's somewhat clear that Itachi could not surpass Madara and his hope was that Sasuke would be able to... I don't see why everyone is complaining about this... and as for the Amataretsu in sasuke eye... well that's something else.. but interesting still imho
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on April 10, 2008, 02:22:52 PM
lol Why tobi in the same pose stillll?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on April 10, 2008, 04:00:58 PM
Well i came across a theory  (a youtube video) of what is to come  in 397

WARNING!  SPOLIER/POSSIBLE FAKE SPOILER ALERT!!

click at your own risk...

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/spoiler-script-naruto-chapter-397-maybe-a-fake-maybe/1283495701

what was presented sounds feasible...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on April 11, 2008, 05:40:11 PM
real thing is out at www.onemanga.org.


 I'm not dissapointed though some people might be ,it has a moral behind it : Hate is blind , Sasuke was lucky his hate was channeled into good.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on April 11, 2008, 05:41:04 PM
Wow.. now i've seen two of my speculations come to fruitition... not only was itachi good... but it seems that his unusual form against sasuke (spitting up blood, slow reaction) was from madara... what is madara's real deal... also... Itachi could have been Jaraiya's spy... wow... some may be disappointed but honestly I am impressed by the turn of events...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on April 12, 2008, 11:25:51 AM
I read this week's chapter and one thought stuck out in my mind:" WHOAMG Bleach really heatin up yes!"
No that isn't a typo.

That's my reaction to this pathetically obvious plot revelation. Why de eff we can't jus have men bein evil for bein evil sake anymore? I is de only youth who grow up watchin 80s cartoons? Bring back the evil for evil sake, every other mofo these days have some kinda sad story to redeem him.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on April 12, 2008, 12:27:20 PM
I don't need my villains being evil for evil's sake. I just don't need my clearly well fleshed out villains being deus ex machina'd into being good and I hate shyamalanian styled plot twists. I'll reserve any further opinion to see if he intends to make Itachi a sympathetic character or a well-intentioned sociopath. Either way he has a lot of hole to plug now. Especially itachi's maniacal show of emotion in his last battle there and reason as to why he chose to go about it that way more than "he wanted to push him forward", because that would be stupid. Even for Shonen.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: whiteface on April 12, 2008, 11:02:04 PM
I read this week's chapter and one thought stuck out in my mind:" WHOAMG Bleach really heatin up yes!"
No that isn't a typo.

That's my reaction to this pathetically obvious plot revelation. Why de eff we can't jus have men bein evil for bein evil sake anymore? I is de only youth who grow up watchin 80s cartoons? Bring back the evil for evil sake, every other mofo these days have some kinda sad story to redeem him.


I don't need my villains being evil for evil's sake. I just don't need my clearly well fleshed out villains being deus ex machina'd into being good and I hate shyamalanian styled plot twists. I'll reserve any further opinion to see if he intends to make Itachi a sympathetic character or a well-intentioned sociopath. Either way he has a lot of hole to plug now. Especially itachi's maniacal show of emotion in his last battle there and reason as to why he chose to go about it that way more than "he wanted to push him forward", because that would be stupid. Even for Shonen.

Thank you both for having some sort of intelligence and standard. I'll wait for two weeks to voice my opinion as I still have faith in Kishimoto. I mean he did give us over a year of best storyline eh..... However if this sham of a plot twist is indeed so, ill lose all respect for naruto... Ok not all, but alot.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on April 12, 2008, 11:27:20 PM
WARNING N00bish statement below





what if itachi had everyone under a Aizen-type genjutsu....what if he never fought sasuke but tricked him and was so badass that sasuke and even madara didnt know :P
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on April 13, 2008, 02:27:26 AM
*cough*fanboy*cough* :P
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on April 13, 2008, 07:45:58 AM
umm...i doh like itachi...iz jus i hate sasuke more and well that wud add a very interesting turn to the story
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on April 28, 2008, 04:30:11 PM
I am quite surprised that no one has commented on the latest manga. Suffice to say I want to hear more of Madara's story. Where Itachi was "Deus Ex Machina'd" like Sync said remains to be seen...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on April 28, 2008, 05:01:46 PM
I think the main reason noone commented is because its SO UP IN THE AIR that we all need more information before we start throwing crap at the screen like a monkey high on crystal meth in a zoo.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on April 28, 2008, 06:19:37 PM
honestly ,i'm quite alright with the plot twist , i never hated itachi to begin with , though Kishi could have come better , its not THAT bad.
   
  Jade Empire and KOTOR 2 used similar plot twists.. its not an uncommon thing .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: whiteface on April 28, 2008, 09:10:52 PM
It IS that bad...... The only thing i'm happy about is Konoha's back story, The First ROCKS!!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on April 28, 2008, 09:35:30 PM
so....no one saw the movie yet ?

much better than the third one

BAAAAW @ LEE super special life saver and LOL @ the after credits scene.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on April 29, 2008, 12:21:22 AM
I was so desperate to see the movie i watch the raw first with fear of not knowing when db woulda translate it.

NO naruto movie can be great if they leave out the main character .... KYUUBI

I doh see why he couldn't come out and play just a little bit.

But otherwise it wasn't that bad. Right now the manga have my attention firm. And the anime falling back into naruto goodness so all is not lost in the narutoverse
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on May 08, 2008, 10:39:33 AM
I have to say that the spoiler for this week is piecing together nicely. I don't consider it a Deus Ex Machina at all! in fact it's very plausible the angle that's been taken, all of itachi's actions... it's starting to make sense. That aside let me SPOIL IT for you XD

Just a teaser
(http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/8811/792190jb0yz9.th.jpg) (http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=792190jb0yz9.jpg)

And a translation:
Quote
Translation:  Iwanin

This is the spoiler from Ona-shi, as posted by Helltroll, from Conan's post. It might have originated from 2ch, I dunno, but since it matches the pictures, I'm translating it.

Can't be sure it's true, of course.

文が下手なのは仕方ないんだからね///
No complaining about the lousy text, ok!

(Note: the following is the spoiler provider paraphrasing/copying Madara's lines - Iwa).

「柱間は木の葉ができる前から火影を名乗っていた
柱間率いる千手一族はどの忍びからも一目おかれ恐れられていた

千手が動けばうちはが動く
奴等を相手に出来るのうちはくらいだった
千手を雇えば対立国はうちはをやとう……柱間と対立するうちオレのなもどんどん知られた」

"Hashirama had been calling himself "Hokage" sinde before Konoha was created. The Senjuu clan he led was feared and respected by all shinobi.

When the Senjuu moved, so did the Uchiha.
The Uchiha were the only ones who could fight them evenly.
If one country hired Senjuu, it's enemy would hire the Uchihas...and I, who would take on Hashirama himself, quickly attained renown."

サスケ「名をあげるために弟の眼を奪ったのか?」
まだら「名をあげるためではない
弟は自ら眼を差し出したのだ」

Sasuke: You took your brother's eyes in your quest for renown?

Madara: Not for renown. My brother offered me his eyes.

マダラは拳(正確には左手で右手の腕を)をにぎる

Madara clenches his fists (more precisely, he grasps his right arm with his left hand).

(Madara's narration continues - Iwa)

「だが千手はうちはに休戦を申し出た

うちははこれに同意した

だがオレは休戦に一人反対した

今までの憎しみは?弟はなんのために犠牲になったのだ?」
「いずれうちはは千手に駆逐されてしまうと思えてならなかったが皆は休戦を望んでいたのでオレはリーダーと して仕方なく意思を汲み取った」

"But the Senjuu offered the Uchiha a truce."

"The Uchiha accepted."

"I alone was opposed to it."

"Was I to simply cast aside the rancor? Was my brother's sacrifice to be for naught? Though tormented by the suspicion the Senjuu would sooner or later turn on the Uchiha, the truce was what every last man in the clan desired - so reluctantly, I accepted."

まだらと柱間が握手をする

Madara and Hashirama shake hands.

「それから程なく我らは火の国との協定にこぎつける
火の国と木の葉隠れの里だ
この一国一里のシステムをあらゆる国が真似た
それにより争いもなくなる
ひとたびの平和だ」

「だが木の葉はある出来事により混乱におちいる」

"Not long after, we reached an arrangement with Fire Country - and thus was born the Village of Konoha Gakure . The arrangement of one village per country was adopted by all, thus putting an end to strife. A transitory peace was reached."

"Then, a certain event would rattle the village ."

サスケ「?」

Sasuke: ?

(Madara continues - Iwa)

まだら「初代火影の座だ
火の国も里の皆も柱間を選んだ
うちはの主権が遠ざかるからオレは柱間と対峙する道を選んだがうちはの者でさえオレについて来るものはいな かった
オレは叩かれそれどころか弟の眼を奪った欲深いあにだと言われた………どこに好き好んで弟を傷つける兄がい る?オレはうちはを守りたかっただけだ……!オレは里を出た」

「復讐者となり里に戦いを挑んだ」「オレは敗れた……オレはあそこで死んだ………とされている。柱間でさえ そう思ったはずだ」「柱間の弟であり二代目は反逆者を出さない為に信頼の証としてうちはに警務部隊の役職を 与えた
しかし実際は監視かに置くためだった
その意図に気付いたうちはの者もいてオレの意思を次ぐ奴も出てきた

"The position of Hokage. Both Fire Country and the Villagers chose Hashirama. Fearing our clan's power would be compromised, I presented myself as his challenger - yet there was none, even among the Uchiha, who would follow me. They didn't stop at slander, but even went so far as to claim I was a man whose lust for power had driven him to steal his younger brother's eyes...and I ask you, is there a man out there who would take pleasure in hurting his younger brother? What I did, I did to protect the clan, and no more... so I left."

"I became an avenger, and waged battle against the village*...lost...and died...or so it's believed. I'm sure Hashirama figured as much himself. His younger brother, The Second, lest traitors should arise within the Uchiha ranks, gave the clan the position of police as a token of his trust. In reality, the idea was to keep them under surveillance. More than one Uchiha caught on to the fact, and began to sympathize with my position."

*This line corresponds to the first spoiler image.

(Madara's narration continues - Iwa)

時すでに遅し…うちはは千手の犬に成り下がっていた」

"Too little, too late...the Uchiha had already been relagated to being the Senjuu's lapdogs."

「そしてある事件でうちはは完全に駆逐される」
16年前の九尾来襲だ

"And one incident would seal the animosity towards them: the Kyuubi's attack 16 years ago*."

(*This line roughly coincides with the line in the image described as "fake." If you want my opinion, if the spoiler is true than most likely the image is *NOT* fake, just *RECYCLED.* It's been recycled over and over in the manga already, and there's nothing odd about it being recycled here for Madara's line - Iwa.)

ちょっと疲れたから後は簡単でいい?
そう?ありがと

I'm kinda tired, so you guys mind if I just summarize the rest? No? Thanks*!

(*comment by the spoiler poster - Iwa).

それをうちはがやったと勘ぐったのがダンゾウと相談役二人
九尾は天災でうちはは関係していないのに反逆を狙ったとか色々言われた
それ以降はうちはは暗部により監視されまくり
里から隔離された

The two advisors and Danzou mistakenly believed it was the Uchiha's doing. Despite the fact the Kyuubi's attack had been a natural disaster, it was said the Uchiha had revolted and such. From that point on, the Uchiha were kept under strict Anbu surveillance. They were segregated from the village.

三代目は隔離に意義を唱えたがみんな認めなかった

The Third extolled the virtues of segregation, but they (the Uchiha) weren't happy.

そしてうちは一族里を乗っとる為にはクーデターを企んだ

それを阻止したのが

The clan plotted to take over the village by executing a Coup d'etat. And the man responsible for stopping it was...

「お前の兄うちはイタチだ
そこから奴の地獄は始まったのだ」

"Your brother, Uchiha Itachi. And that's when his nightmare began."

これで今週は終わり

まだらが語っただけだった

FROM オナ師

"And that's how it ends. It was all Madara talking. From Ona-shi"


My 2c:
Looking back at all actions till now, itachi murdering the clan, the 3rd's shaky dealings with events e.g. letting Oro live, Itachi's seemingly evil intent towards his brother and in particular the event in the past with Itachi pwning the 3 members of the police when they started investigating the death of his best friend.... this is my take, Itachi was ordered by the Hokage to wipe out his clan as his investigation revealed that they were planning to revolt. Itachi being an Uchiha but dedicated to the village was put into a MISERABLE position where should he resist the village would come down on him with their full force wiping not only him but his clan out as well. He became infuriated with his clan and their complacency (as was expressed in that scrap). He probably wished the clan to be more powerful for THEIR OWN sake as they were about to be wiped out. Itachi was left in the difficult (to say the least) situation of deciding how best to protect that which was closest to him (Sasuke). So he carried out the deed of destroying the clan (a job that would inherently alienate him from the village) but that would put him in a position to save Sasuke. Up until his death Itachi was pushing and pushing Sasuke not only to become powerful, but also pushing him away from the boodly, hate filled path of the clan from the past (killing ur best friend, family, etc). As Itachi embodied those things and it drove sasuke to seek strength in a different way. Lastly thinking that Madara would persuade Sasuke to follow that same bloodly hate filled path he tried even in death to silence him. However it seems Itachi may not have known everything there is to madara and the picture madara paints is not just one of revenge, but completely justified revenge. Of course it could all be poppycock but time alone will tell.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on May 08, 2008, 11:14:10 AM
Looks entirely plausible... We'll have to wait and see until friday though.

Looks like one of my theories might have been right : The rest of the Uchiha turned on Madara , politically at least...

Though it is satisfying , it leaves something to be desired... I was betting the First hokage and Madara has a special friendship.. we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on May 08, 2008, 10:47:56 PM
I'm not pleased. Long and short of it.

It's also clear that Madara is telling sasuke a half-truth.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on May 09, 2008, 10:05:51 AM
I'm not pleased. Long and short of it.

It's also clear that Madara is telling sasuke a half-truth.
Tough :p

That aside, we'd all be inclined to think it's half truth, he is after all trying to convince sasuke to join him. Anyways scans out:
http://www.mediafire.com/?93amr54tzwo (http://www.mediafire.com/?93amr54tzwo)
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/01/ (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/01/)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on May 09, 2008, 04:10:17 PM
Rrrrrightt, I wonder whether Kishi had the story planned out in advance or if this is really a week by week thing?

If nothing else at least Madara admit that Shodai cut he ass. Senju ftw!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on May 09, 2008, 04:46:05 PM
I'm waging that the publishers had something to do with this terrible writing.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on May 09, 2008, 05:29:43 PM
Some people need firing then. Because maybe they ent realize that they ent d baddest shounen anymore because Bleach kickin all kinda ass these days.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: nikkodemus on May 12, 2008, 03:08:53 PM
i hope that these naruto writers know what they doing because, it looking like naruto going to take the first ever storyline nose-dive ever. yeah, yeah, yeah, they needed to redeem Itachi a lil bit, but not like that... they making him look mire an imps than ever!!!! What going on in japan... bleach is in the worst run ever ( and bleach have plenty of dry runs, eh, but i almost embarrassed to say that i reading that... never see a manga move slower...), up to now no FMA...a hope naruto could pull themself out of this hole dat they digging. come nah - madara the good guy, Itachi the toy soldier, baby brother sasuke to follow in the footsteps- restore uchiha pride meanwhile naruto crying down the place... come on!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on May 12, 2008, 03:29:16 PM
Hey guys it's clear Madara feeding Sasuke level quaker oats and BS. Come on, how else would Madara convince sasuke to join him? force won't work, so he's creaming him up (bad analogy I know, but hey he was Oro b1tch before so I think it's fitting). This is just Madara trying the 'soft' approach before Sasuke blank him and he have to whip out his mandingo and show sasuke who he needs to listen to or else... as a famous self proclaimed god would say: "It's not the LASH that they fear..."
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Trinitus on May 20, 2008, 08:20:56 PM
Its my divine powahhahahahhahahahhahah I couldnt help myself i just buss out laughing dey!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on May 21, 2008, 06:22:38 AM
Well I propose that somehow Sasuke will end up seeking out Naruto so that he can confront Kyuubi again. Kyuubi did mention that Sasuke's eyes/chakra are more sinister that that of Madara's. Sasuke may want to know what he meant by that statement...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on May 23, 2008, 12:04:31 AM
 I think sasuke will now join back up with Naruto and Konoha.. and these last chapters are fillers that help explain why.
   He has no reason to do otherwise, Itachi is dead and now his only role in life will be to revive the clan.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on May 23, 2008, 07:44:16 AM
we're assuming that madara isnt lying his ass off.

What's his motivation for supposedly telling sasuke the truth?? what does he want of him

and who said losing the cursed seal was a good thing?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on May 23, 2008, 11:07:10 AM
Either way Sasuke can´t go back to Konoha, he´s a missing nin effectively and they would JAIL him on sight. Regardless of whether he had a good reason, he turned his back on the village and sided with an ENEMY who tried to destroy the village. I believe he will (if anything) side with Madara and receive more training. Perhaps he will try to continue his brother´s work and try to become powerful enough to destroy Madara. It was after all one of his bother´s dying wills. I can see where the 2nd time skip is coming. Sasuke and Naruto years later. Sasuke with training from Madara, Naruto with Training from the entire leaf. Madara may very well break off from akatsuki with sasuke leaving Pain to run amock... time will tell now,
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on May 23, 2008, 11:46:47 AM
  Itachi is dead and now his only role in life will be to revive the clan.

The Sasuke x Karin fans rejoice.

So yeah. After last week redeeming chapter, the writing took a nose dive once more. Far too rushed. Madara's purposes and intentions haven't been explained and Kishimoto really resorted to the deus ex machina. Hopefully things pick up soon. Anyone up for Hebi vs Kisame?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on May 23, 2008, 02:17:09 PM
I don't think it's quite a duex ex machina, it's quite a plausible story... I still think is level BS in there though. Whilst his story would seem consistent that he got his revenge and doesn't need to destroy konoha anymore.... he wouldn't be trying to recruit sasuke if everything was hunky dory. So I think its a bit of a white lite or ommission of truth in there. In the least though i'd like them to get back to the leaf and let's see what has come of the death of Jaraiya-sama... time for Naruto to get SERIOUS and level-training-like-a-beast-with-thousand-cone-no-jutsu....serisouly. Why is this manga even called Naruto? it's clear the MAIN character is Sasuke.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on May 23, 2008, 05:31:56 PM
I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS!!!!

RENAME THE DAMN THING TO SASUKE AND FRIENDS!!!


when kishi created naruto, after chapter one, he realised the story was ballz with out a rival for naruto and created someone who was the complete opposite of naruto.

What he couldnt have foreseen, was how immensely good of a character sasuke was
and maybe the story should have been written the other way around
with sasuke being the lead and naruto trying so hard to get the lead character back on track. instead of the lead character hounding a supporting character who has completely stolen the show.

in a related story

i was watching g4 for first time in a while and xplay was on, yummy morgan was talking so i paid attention. THey had one of their call in things and some noooooooooobb named uzumaki j called in...i was like :( ... sigh f**** americans.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on May 28, 2008, 01:38:57 PM
YES I INTENTIONALLY MADE THE TXT SMALL so that those that want the spoiler can do their normal cut and paste and those that don´t want to can just glare at the spoiler pic XD

SPOILER ALERT
And so it came to pass.... Sasuke has attained the eternal mangekyou sharingan....

Script:
Quote
ガクッと落ち込むサスケにイタチはいつもの指を額にあて「許せサスケ」をする
As usual, Itachi poked Sasuke who felt down and say “Forgive me Sasuke”

場面は変わり新しい手裏剣術~の話(昔の回想シーンで出てきた奴。)
*The scene changed. Appears the flashback of the Shuriken scene which was used before.*

サスケ「また今度修行してくれる?」
Sasuke: Would you train me again?

イタチ「ああ。ただオレも任務があるしお前も明日から学校だから二人の時間がそうとれなくなる だろうけどな 」
Itachi: Yes. But I have missions and you must go to school tomorrow, it’s difficult to have time for us now.

サスケ微笑みながら「それでもいい……たまに一緒にいてくれれば」
Sasuke was smiling and say,” It’s okay, if you are with me sometime.”

そしてうちは全滅する前の日のシーン
*The scene of the day before the Uchiha massacre.*

手裏剣術の教えを乞うサスケにイタチは「許せサスケ………また今度だ」
Sasuke ask Itachi to teach Shuriken. Itachi says,”Forgive me Sasuke...next time.”

お前の越える壁としてオレは―お前と共にあり続ける―――たとえ憎まれようとも……それが兄貴 ってもんだ
I will exist as your wall to overcome...I will be with you....if you hate me...This is what the brother is.

そしてイタチ最後のシーン

*Itachi’s last scene*


サスケに近づき目に指を指すかとおもえば額に指を指し
Aproaching Sasuke, Itachi’s finger looked to reach Sasuke’s eye but it went to his forhead.

笑いながら
smiling...

This is the last part of the first spoiler.

イタチ「許せサスケ………これで最後だ」
Itachi: Forgive me Sasuke... it ends with this.

泣くサスケ
Sasuke cries.

後ろからマダラとサスケの仲間三人がサスケを見る
Behind Sasuke, Madara and Hebi members looks at Sasuke.

サスケ「我らは蛇を脱した」「これより我ら小隊は名を゛鷹゛と改め行動する」「鷹の目的はただひとつ。我々 は――――」
Sasuke: "We are not Team Hebi anymore. " From now on, we call our squad Hawk. " "The mission of Hawk is only one. We..."

マダラがサスケを見る
Madara see Sasuke.

サスケアップ。そしてマンゲとも普通のとも違う新しい眼に
Sasuke's face was closed up. He has new eyes different from normal eye and normal Sharingan.


「木の葉を潰す」
"...I/we destroy Konoha."

Sidetext:

鷹の次なる行く先は?その頃なるとは!?次号「目的」へ!
Where does Hawk go next? What does Naruto do now?

Next issue "The purpose"

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Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on May 28, 2008, 02:03:32 PM
Ugh. Ughhhhh.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on May 28, 2008, 02:06:19 PM
Ugh. Ughhhhh.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
*W1nTry looks at Sync with an estranged expression...* Qua? considering your disappointment in the series lately, what exactly did that mean?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Redfish on May 28, 2008, 04:33:46 PM
Yes yes I'm new in here but I took about two days and read through all the manga(got fed up of downloading the vids that turned out to be fillers..)

I must say Madara is quite cunning and of course I see it as an attempt to have sasuke on his side to control the 9 tails or something of the sort. That I think is how the story is gonna FINALLY go back to the "supposed" star Naruto.

I know there was something fishy(haha I said fishy) about that mask wearing dude pretending to be lame.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on May 30, 2008, 02:11:08 AM
onemanga has translation up

ALL I HADDA SAY IS BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

SASUKEEEEEEEEE DAIMO!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WTF UBER EYE HAXX NO JUTSUU!!!!
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on May 30, 2008, 02:12:36 PM
Man I didn't like this new twist. Why destroy the entire leaf? Killing off Danzou and the gang would be enough, right? I suppose its all for the big Naruto/Sasuke faceoff but to me its just a really saddening twist. The fact that he got his own Mangekyou, and the anticipation to see it in action, yeah cool no problem...but that just mean we hadda sit through more Naruto training, Sakura being a waste, and the killing off of important characters. 2 sannin down, how long will Tsunade last again?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on May 30, 2008, 02:20:59 PM
Danzo and the rest of the leaf represent the descendants of the Senjuu clan. The Senjuu clan (according to Madara at least) is responsible for destroying the Uchiha clan. Konoha is essentially the senjuu clan by a different name. Of course (under needles from Madara) Sasuke will want to destroy Konoha.

I ent so sure about Sakura being  a waste... she kicked butt where Sasori was concerned. Ino, oh yea.. useless.

But hey, they did say this year would focus a lot on Sasuke, and they weren't lying.

I do wonder if these new eyes can do anything beyond what we've already seen.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on May 30, 2008, 04:00:25 PM
I can't even bring myself to argue as to why this is so terrible. Ario begins to touch upon my opinion but hey...you know what...if you guys like it then fantastic. I, however, don't think I can enjoy this manga like I used to. Not particularly because the story is going in this direction, which I am not opposed to, but rather, the poor manner in which it has been implemented since. It's just poor writing and Kishimoto can do much better than this.

What I find so terribly absurd, is that Sasuke in now in league with a man who directly responsible for his clan's massacre; a man who assisted genocide simply due to his contempt for a clan which, in his opinion, spurned him...as opposed than taking his brother's (the same brother which he so claimed to love, which he just had revealed to him loved him so desperately that he did all he absolutely could to protect him) noble example and putting country and peace beyond self. Never mind the directive was disseminated from the rogue (but somewhat rational) orders of a fringe entity within Konoha (Danzo/Root) rather than than of the rank and file leadership.

The only way the justify this at all...is if he eventually reveals that Sasuke has been so emotionally traumatized and stunted by all his fighting and all his corrupted perceptions and deceit he has experienced that he is in severe denial or perhaps, he suffers from some sort of severe savant autism. But this is Shonen. So that's unlikely. It's just poor writing.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on May 30, 2008, 05:06:17 PM
I can't even bring myself to argue as to why this is so terrible. Ario begins to touch upon my opinion but hey...you know what...if you guys like it then fantastic. I, however, don't think I can enjoy this manga like I used to. Not particularly because the story is going in this direction, which I am not opposed to, but rather, the poor manner in which it has been implemented since. It's just poor writing and Kishimoto can do much better than this.

What I find so terribly absurd, is that Sasuke in now in league with a man who directly responsible for his clan's massacre; a man who assisted genocide simply due to his contempt for a clan which, in his opinion, spurned him...as opposed than taking his brother's (the same brother which he so claimed to love, which he just had revealed to him loved him so desperately that he did all he absolutely could to protect him) noble example and putting country and peace beyond self. Never mind the directive was disseminated from the rogue (but somewhat rational) orders of a fringe entity within Konoha (Danzo/Root) rather than than of the rank and file leadership.

The only way the justify this at all...is if he eventually reveals that Sasuke has been so emotionally traumatized and stunted by all his fighting and all his corrupted perceptions and deceit he has experienced that he is in severe denial or perhaps, he suffers from some sort of severe savant autism. But this is Shonen. So that's unlikely. It's just poor writing.



pfffffttttttt HATER!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh sasuke sama daimo !! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

wtf pwnage level epenis /inkepenis whos yourdadyism is about to be engaged!!!

i predict
quick strike
tsunade is masacred, alongside danzou and root
then the jounins start jumping in and level humongobattlezoids begins

we then get a guest appearance by aizen who deems sasuke a worthy second in command
and leaves to proceed to wtf pwn soul society ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

it is later revealed that sasuke and itachi were really aizens children ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on May 30, 2008, 06:54:44 PM
*hands Crixx a sedative tablet...*

*Crixx reverts to Dr. Jekyll*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on May 30, 2008, 07:12:26 PM
I can't even bring myself to argue as to why this is so terrible. Ario begins to touch upon my opinion but hey...you know what...if you guys like it then fantastic. I, however, don't think I can enjoy this manga like I used to. Not particularly because the story is going in this direction, which I am not opposed to, but rather, the poor manner in which it has been implemented since. It's just poor writing and Kishimoto can do much better than this.

What I find so terribly absurd, is that Sasuke in now in league with a man who directly responsible for his clan's massacre; a man who assisted genocide simply due to his contempt for a clan which, in his opinion, spurned him...as opposed than taking his brother's (the same brother which he so claimed to love, which he just had revealed to him loved him so desperately that he did all he absolutely could to protect him) noble example and putting country and peace beyond self. Never mind the directive was disseminated from the rogue (but somewhat rational) orders of a fringe entity within Konoha (Danzo/Root) rather than than of the rank and file leadership.

The only way the justify this at all...is if he eventually reveals that Sasuke has been so emotionally traumatized and stunted by all his fighting and all his corrupted perceptions and deceit he has experienced that he is in severe denial or perhaps, he suffers from some sort of severe savant autism. But this is Shonen. So that's unlikely. It's just poor writing.



pfffffttttttt HATER!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh sasuke sama daimo !! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

wtf pwnage level epenis /inkepenis whos yourdadyism is about to be engaged!!!

i predict
quick strike
tsunade is masacred, alongside danzou and root
then the jounins start jumping in and level humongobattlezoids begins

we then get a guest appearance by aizen who deems sasuke a worthy second in command
and leaves to proceed to wtf pwn soul society ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

it is later revealed that sasuke and itachi were really aizens children ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

At which point, a portal is mysteriously blown open, leading to a merging of worlds where DC and Mortal Kombat characters collide! BRILLIANT Kishimoto, you've just saved MK!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on May 30, 2008, 10:11:50 PM
*blinks*

Dude...what the f**k just happened in this topic?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on May 30, 2008, 10:56:54 PM
sassukeee rann wilddd overr j00000000
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on May 30, 2008, 11:26:53 PM
I love this twist because it is the very last thing i expected to happen.

I hate predictable stories, and this was not predictable.

So for all else, its time to see naruto up on that toad mountain learning some real jutsu after hearing of eroo-sennin death.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on May 31, 2008, 04:07:03 PM
the quality has dropped yes , but the twist was totally unexpected...

 At this point in time we have no idea what future events may hold... Besides an eventual Naruto - Sasuke matchup.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on June 01, 2008, 12:28:36 AM
the quality has dropped yes , but the twist was totally unexpected...

 At this point in time we have no idea what future events may hold... Besides an eventual Naruto - Sasuke matchup.

Rematch of the century lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Kenji on June 03, 2008, 08:31:55 AM
I can't even bring myself to argue as to why this is so terrible. Ario begins to touch upon my opinion but hey...you know what...if you guys like it then fantastic. I, however, don't think I can enjoy this manga like I used to. Not particularly because the story is going in this direction, which I am not opposed to, but rather, the poor manner in which it has been implemented since. It's just poor writing and Kishimoto can do much better than this.

What I find so terribly absurd, is that Sasuke in now in league with a man who directly responsible for his clan's massacre; a man who assisted genocide simply due to his contempt for a clan which, in his opinion, spurned him...as opposed than taking his brother's (the same brother which he so claimed to love, which he just had revealed to him loved him so desperately that he did all he absolutely could to protect him) noble example and putting country and peace beyond self. Never mind the directive was disseminated from the rogue (but somewhat rational) orders of a fringe entity within Konoha (Danzo/Root) rather than than of the rank and file leadership.

The only way the justify this at all...is if he eventually reveals that Sasuke has been so emotionally traumatized and stunted by all his fighting and all his corrupted perceptions and deceit he has experienced that he is in severe denial or perhaps, he suffers from some sort of severe savant autism. But this is Shonen. So that's unlikely. It's just poor writing.

I'm not too sure about what were 're saying. Sasuke has always thinks like this.

When he thougth itachi destroy there clan, and murdered there parents, he went on a one man mission to destroy itachi, which is what itachi wanted.
Now that he feels detrayed by konoha, he's doing what he always does- try and take revenge.
He's not really doing this for madara at all,but sasuke is being used, and probably doesn't care ( just like with orch.... however u spell his name- sannin snake man)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on June 03, 2008, 04:21:33 PM
So to clarify a point that's been bugging me, and do correct me if I'm wrong here- the Mangekyou Sasuke has acquired is a result of killing the person closest to him- Itachi. THAT, if correct, is IMO a likable "twist".
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on June 03, 2008, 05:05:32 PM
That is what we're led to believe at present, however it doesn't account for Kakashi. My take on it is that there is something (probably mentally and phsyically) that triggers the development of the normal sharingan into the Mangekyou. And under the conditions of killing ones closest relation those conditions are met. HOWEVER that is not to say there isn't an alternative triggering mechanism. If I had to draw a reference, it's like sex and chocolate. Chemically they produce the same result (or so its said, i'll just say I don't have much of a sweet tooth XD). I believe that Kakashi unlocked the alternative method to activating the MS. However there is the next problem of deterioration. And I think it's a suitable caveat. When you exert that much power through the eyes, its bound to start to deteriorate. It's like a overload of chakra. The Eternal MS that Madara (and possibly Sasuke) have attained also is somewhat logical. The strain on the eyes by usage of the MS would over time deteriorate the original. Thus by replacing the original with a 'spare part' or perhaps a strengthening with the combination of the orignal users blood and powers with that of the 'donor' a resilience to the power is developed. This is all speculation mind you, but my take on the whole situation.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: phoenix31tt on June 03, 2008, 06:07:09 PM
Sasuke has always thinks like this.

When he thougth itachi destroy there clan, and murdered there parents, he went on a one man mission to destroy itachi, which is what itachi wanted.
Now that he feels detrayed by konoha, he's doing what he always does- try and take revenge.
He's not really doing this for madara at all,but sasuke is being used, and probably doesn't care
agreed... he's just about vengeance... and will always be

@ the sharingan i believe w1n is right... except that sasuke also activated it in the special way... itachi was not the closest thing to him... so i dont think actually killing itachi released it
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on June 03, 2008, 07:38:18 PM
 We'll probably get a proper ' Nature of Mangekyou Sharingan' explanation later on...
 
 Likely when Kakashi becomes hokage , he will have to defend Konoha against Sasuke , and we'll get an explanation during that confrontation
 
I think Itachi somehow transferred his MS to sasuke , in addition to the normal 'kill your brother and you'll get MS ' deal.
 
 We did see his eyes become like Itachi's when he used amaterasu earlier on.

 Itachi  was  Sasuke's closest living relative , and  if we ignore the events leading up to killing the uchiha clan and fleeing Konoha (which Kishimoto is basically telling us to), his closest friend .
 
 Sasuke has always been about revenge on those who destroyed the Uchiha clan , the manga just shifted the blame from Itachi to a certain sect in Konoha .

 

Personally... i think there was a major shake up in the writing or something, what happen to the Kisame fight?  the quality has dropped so much there has to be some sort of explanation , after all these years an artist/writer is supposed to be getting better , not worse
 
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: phoenix31tt on June 03, 2008, 07:43:50 PM
Personally... i think there was a major shake up in the writing or something, what happen to the Kisame fight?  the quality has dropped so much there has to be some sort of explanation , after all these years an artist/writer is supposed to be getting better , not worse
 

ent i was like :S... ent that fella was about to fight kisame
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Kenji on June 04, 2008, 07:02:38 AM
I think its more like itachi gave him his sharingan ablities before he died, than sasuke killing him. Those eyes might be the final sharingan eyes technique, that madara have, but madara got that by taking his brothers eyes himself. Since itachi still had both his eyes......u really can't be sure wht sasuke sharingan is now.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: whiteface on June 06, 2008, 12:10:07 AM

 Sasuke has always been about revenge on those who destroyed the Uchiha clan , the manga just shifted the blame from Itachi to a certain sect in Konoha .
 

Personally... i think there was a major shake up in the writing or something, what happen to the Kisame fight?  the quality has dropped so much there has to be some sort of explanation , after all these years an artist/writer is supposed to be getting better , not worse

 

The thing is he shifted the blame to the entire village.. Which either makes Sasuke plain stupid or kishimoto hiigh on something.

I whole heartedly agree. I can't seem to like this manga as much anymore.. I just can't. I can't help but think that something is actually going on with Kishimoto to have taken such a sudden plunge into mediocrity lately.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: spinner on June 06, 2008, 07:51:04 AM
his world has just been turned upside down with words from madara concerning the real nature of itachi's intentions so he's prolly messed up in his head that he's striking out at the village, even tho its just a sect that was responsible (peter pay for paul oui) but thats my humble opinion

what really has me tripping is that kisame fight, wham to that fight? a beast like kisame wouldnt go out easy and he wouldnt run from them kids, unless suigetsu turned water and absorbed him :P
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on June 06, 2008, 11:08:11 AM
Yall have seen the latest manga right? Itachi game Naruto some of his power... hmm I wonder which one or what it could be... my suspicions as far as if it´s a MS technique would be Sunsanoo the most powerful technique, as Tsukyomi isn´t going to work against Sasuke anymore and we KNOW he can perform amaterasu. Susanoo would be the logical choice as it has the power to defend against all physical attacks AND defeat sasuke if it ABSOLUTELY came down to it... it seems Itachi has entrusted his will to protect Konoha AND his little brother to Naruto... HOPEFULLY we can FINALLY SEE some REAL development to the DAMN MAIN CHARACTER!!! sheesh...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: whiteface on June 09, 2008, 02:41:01 AM
If Naruto receives any sharingan technique or a sharingan (which is not possible mind you as it is a bloodline limit and itachi still had his eyes after the conversation so it couldn't have been a transplant ) they should rename the Manga to Sharingan.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Kenji on June 09, 2008, 06:49:56 AM
this may sound stuip but...... since the only person known to us to have been able to control the nine-tails was an uchica- madara, maybe itachi knows  how too as well, and incase somehow the kyubi was to be freed, then naruto would have to try and control it- hence the " i hope you never have to use it" line.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on June 09, 2008, 02:49:18 PM
If the Kyuubi got free, i'm pretty sure Naruto would either be DEAD from it's retrieval OR totally consumed by it and lose himself altogether... as for a sharingan technique being passed, I am not in agreement. It's possible that a technique could be passed as something of the order of Susanoo, Amateratsu, etc aren't just normal techniques. They aren't the combination of elemental control. Heck Susanoo looks like a bloody summon and we know thay summons can have multiple methods to activate. But in line with what wf was saying, perhaps seeing as control of the Kyubi is a Sharingan ability, perhaps Itachi gave Naruto the ability to control the kyubi. It would make alot more sense seeing as he possesses it and what he lacks is control!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on June 09, 2008, 02:51:15 PM
.....

i swear, if i ever ever ever see swirly eyes on naruto

i stop watch anime for life
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on June 09, 2008, 02:58:05 PM
You're not alone in that one crixx...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on June 09, 2008, 06:26:50 PM
LOL @ swirly eyes......that would be kinda pathetic
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on June 10, 2008, 11:07:48 AM
nah , giving naruto sharingan will be going against half the morality of the anime.. Naruto is supposed to find his own path to power , not hijack someone else's.

  likely he gave naruto the ability to be immune to Tsukuyomi and other sharingan jutsu , or better control over the fox as alyuh said..

 Perhaps it allows him to summon and unsummon the fox ? Would make for an interesting battle, The ultimate Bijuu versus Sasuke's ultimate defence.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on June 10, 2008, 03:07:17 PM
wonder if itachi took into account sasuke new obviously ultra uber mangekyou when he gave narutard some of his awsomezz pOWAA
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on June 13, 2008, 01:06:34 AM
404 - dred they finally move back to naruto, and when things finally get going,

back to sasuke. This man needs to focus on developing naruto now, enough bloody time was

spent on sasuke for the year now. Sheesh

edit * But there are some interesting developments taking place now though.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on June 13, 2008, 08:03:32 AM
too much time spent on sasuke

pfft oxymoron
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on June 13, 2008, 08:11:57 AM
I recall some interview around the end of last year where it was said that a lot of time would be spent on sasuke this year. The guy wasn't lying.

But i feel it for Naruto...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on June 13, 2008, 08:11:13 PM
Feel what for naruto? we don't get to see much of him to 'feel' much for him XD ... If they keep this sasgay crap up i'll have to find even more manga and anime to watch to keep me occupied whilst Narucrap gets back to the main character... the ONLY thing that would give Sasuke ANY reprieve in my mind now would be he is secretly going to protect his brother's dreams and when the time comes STOP Madara from taking Naruto. Fiah for the elders, but his saving grace will be to save Naruto imho and of course treat us to an uber battle with Madara. Otherwise I founds this latest chapter QUITE BORING.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on June 20, 2008, 01:18:06 PM
What like all yuh gone against, is after lunch and nobody in come and say how much they cry yet (Chapter 405).

D man 'grandfather' dead the least we could do is have a moment of silence and offer him some condolences.

*Ulti then walks up to a crying naruto

Now suck it up and go and train, akatsuki coming for your a$$.

Now I can't wait to see the developments on konoha's side. I wonder if he will go off and train soon or if they will reveal the truth about his father anytime soon.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on June 20, 2008, 02:23:52 PM
The most I can say for this filler/crying chapter is that is BOUT TIME WE SEE A CHAPTER WITHOUT MC SASGAY IN IT PRAISE THE LORD!!! that aside, he BETTER be going to the mystic frog mountain to train cause I cyah see who in Konoha have de skills to train him now... Jaraiya gone and Kakashi will undoubtedly have his hands full with the coming onslaught... I can't see them doing anything else but sending him to train with the toads... he'll be safe there, learning all sorts of techniques and hopefully become ALL THE BADASS that we've been waiting for... forget this save SASGAY attitude, we need some HARDCORE LIHIXX back in the series. I so would love a post 2nd time skip, akatsuki running things, the survivors of konoha constantly battling and running for dey life and when the back to de wall Naruto bust out on de scene kicking ass and taking names... but one can only dream...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on June 20, 2008, 09:48:40 PM
Talking about the save sasuke thing, what about if he get bent on revenge for jaraiya instead. Wouldn't that be awesome. Kinda become an avenger himself, and go to train with the sole purpose of gaining power to kill them.

Oh wait, that sound like sasuke story. But the advent of forgetting the save sasuke thing is something we might never see come to pass. I think naruto and sasuke was more like lovers than brothers the way he does get on.

Oh sasuke why did you leave.
Shut up bitch, I don't love you anymore.
SASUKE!!!!! Come back I miss you.
I said shut up bitch.

Don't any of you get that kinda of idea with naruto's stalkerish want of sasuke.

lol. Doh mind me tonight. I just glad happy and taking it out on naruto.

lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on July 04, 2008, 02:05:45 AM
www.onemanga.com , latest chapter out..
 
Looks like not much training will be going on , big fight coming up..... I'm betting we'll loose the 5th hokage and get Kakashi for 6th.
 
Likely Pain will be  wounded or something and escape.. after he mash through a few dozen jounin.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on July 04, 2008, 02:19:44 AM
lol @ all yee nabages sasuke bashing
*sigh*


and hmm @ sasuke hunting the 8th beast and pain coming to lay the smaacckkk downnnnn on their roooddyyy poooo caannddyyyy @$$
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on July 10, 2008, 11:05:02 PM
408 - finally, it begins, hopefully they will use his kage bushin training style and turn him into a master quickly.

And then, Let the battles begin
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on July 11, 2008, 12:53:30 AM
I have one word
One word for what I see in this weeks chapter...



:dropjaw:           AKATSASUKE!!!          :dropjaw:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on July 18, 2008, 06:21:12 PM
 This weeks chapter was nice  , looks like Naruto is  fairly safe..

 I'm betting that his training will make him into even more of a tank : Super strength and more uber jutsu would suit him perfectly  , he may never learn the 4th's flicker technique for speed as his strength , like Jiraiya's , should be enough.

Sasuke will always be faster and with more amazing and intricate jutsu , but Naruto will be the never tiring workhorse  with endless brute force to make up for lack of flowery skills. 

 Anyone noticed that sasuke only used one eye for his MS jutsu in the last chapter? He may be under the same constraints as Itachi and will risk loosing his eyesight if he abuses his MS.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on July 18, 2008, 06:52:03 PM
he may be

or the other eye may have another technique

iam betting thats what it is
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on October 03, 2008, 10:50:45 AM
OMG at latest manga..

1. Pain

2. 8 tails is a boss, and not for his power this time...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 03, 2008, 11:08:39 AM
if naruto beat pein with some hardwork is greater than all bs
then i /quit anime an manga forever
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 03, 2008, 11:38:23 AM
How exactly you expecting him to beat Pain then?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 03, 2008, 11:42:51 AM
with help from buddies
including sasuke

nevarrrrrrrrr in a flikkin 1v1 nevaaaaa
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on October 03, 2008, 12:12:36 PM
Yeah the 8th tail come good there, man wanted to go check out the chicas in another village, cyah blame a man fuh dat!

As for Pain... Naruto can't beat pain, even with 5000 kage bushins, at least not at his present level. Dare I say, even Naruto with Sasuke's abilities would be hard pressed to defeat pain. Hopefully we'll get alot of action out of these next few chapters. See some impressive techniques from little known nins in konoha and well of course, pain... well brining the PAIN!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 03, 2008, 12:34:27 PM
for all yu damn naruto fans
remember, pain killed the man that had the sanins under needles... THAT is hardmatic!! so if yu support naruto beating pain
go lick a power socket or something
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on October 03, 2008, 02:35:31 PM
Yep. Naruto's going to beat him. He may have help but he doesn't need to have help. Shonen rules. He's in the middle of training, has a complete sage mode and is going to learn sage techniques and is going to learn pain's secret AND we have no idea the possibel extent of this new abiltieis. I have to applaud Kishimoto, though. I don't know how he's managed to keep Naruto as the underdog protagonist all this time. People seem to forget that Naruto is/was an incredibly fast learner as well despite his chakura manipulation shortcommings.

Either way...yes...Pain did kill Hanzo; the man who held the young and not nearly as experienced sannin in check. But let's look at these few points.

1// Pain is an amazing ninja.
2// Pain cannot be killed without knowledge of his secret.
3// As I mentioned earlier, at least for Orichimaru and Jiraya...they were younger and as a result not nearly as experienced as they are in present day in the storyline.
4// 3v1 (Sannin) against 6x1v1 (Pain) + he can't die. Umm. Yeah. Odds are in Pain's favour for that battle.

I don't know why you reduce everything to the simplistic A>B, B>C so therefore A>C. Might work in math but not in the case of fiction. So you're case against the impossibility of Naruto beating Pain, Crixx, is based in your dislike for the character. Nothing more, really. And for the Naruto fans...let's be real here. It will be no cakewalk. Not for any character in the series currently for that matter. Personally...I'd quite prefer than Pain not die.

Also...Killerbee is one of the best characters this manga has ever seen. He is AS lame as he is awesome.

And, oh yeah! Sasuke failed his mission.

*shrugs*

Good thing he didn't want the bijuu. He'd be pisssssssssssssed.

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 03, 2008, 02:50:35 PM
naruto beating pain ALONE will be an even worst insult to us than naruto beating neji.
That one still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, seriously...

My dislike for him aside, his growth has not been more impressive to me than Sasuke's.

Yes its cool to see a jinchurikii with control of his bijuu and i dont see sasuke's "failure" as any slight against him incase a naruutard decides to mount an attack against him. The monster is now "limbless" ergo weaker than original but killerbee is still kool.

Id also like to see raikage in action, as well as these 2 little subordinate puppets he has.

But once again, what is the point of creating an impposibly strong villain with ultra uber sylar level haxx dojutsu, if yur going to make noobruto beat him?

I mean, pein seems to be the one character that everyone can agree on is royally too badass for anyone's own good and then loose in a single handed fight to frogeyes whiskers face?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on October 03, 2008, 03:34:44 PM
"naruto beating pain ALONE will be an even worst insult to us than naruto beating neji."

A bigger insult to Naruto haters, you mean? Totally. And I like Neji more than I like Naruto.

Of course his growth is not as impressive as Sasuke's...Sasuke has -everything- going for him in that department, most of which is as a result of the Sharringan, though there's no denying his actual talent and his drive.

And there's no slight against him other than the fact that he -messed up-. Not only was Killer Bee was acutely aware that he had the upperhand, despite sasuke's strength, and got overzealous and careless in the battle but facing down the undeniable power of amaterasu, he also took the opportunity to use a replacement jutsu fake his death so he could escape the village. It is a slight to Sasuke. It's a slight that shows that Sasuke isn't a god damned Gary Stu. Your Sasuke bias is ridiculous.

"But once again, what is the point of creating an impposibly strong villain with ultra uber sylar level haxx dojutsu, if yur going to make noobruto beat him?"

Yep. More character bias. Hell, what's the point of creating any character. What's the point of creating Dr Doom if he's going to be beaten by Squirrel Girl? Now ask yourself, what's the point of creating an incredibly powerful character to have him beaten by the story's protagonist (especially after this character killed his mentor)? The answer? Character development and plot progression. But I'm sure if it were Sasuke however it would be a brilliant victory showing Sasuke's technical skill and prowess of a Ninja. No?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on October 03, 2008, 04:06:25 PM
I still fancy naruto dying to 'defeat' sasuke at the end...and by 'defeat' I mean make sasuke go all soft and cuddly on the inside and realize the error of his ways.... ok that was enough of the grossness but if it happens remember where you heard it.

Right now, Naruto is in no way, shape or form even a contender to defeat pain. If pain is indeed defeated (soon) it will be at the hands of Konoha or a konoha/(whatever killerbee village is) united front. There is also the matter of Tobi still being the top brass.

I agree with sync. killerbee show some style there in that escape.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 03, 2008, 04:39:59 PM
not true synch
iam not such a fanboy (like the narunites) that i believe him untouchable in his Godliness
Pein is by far and away the most ultimate ninja evarr

I do not believe sasuke alone could defeat pein and i would be almost as equally upset if sasuke some how 1v1 pein an defeats him.

Of course i still hold true to the evidence that sasuke > naruto, no need to argue that point.

Its just that kishi isnt the best writzzorrr evarrrr zomggggg... as evident by the silly things hes done over the years, but its just worrying that he seems to be building up to a naruto v pein that can seemingly only have maybe 3 outcomes, pein kills naruto goes ahead to pwn universe, naruto +villages beat/kill pein, thus making a good story or.... the dreaded third.. naruto beats pein by himself... universe implodes from total retarididitude.

And my worry stems from his previous , naruto should have gotten totally pwnt fight.
Naruto v Neji. Neji kicked his ass from start to finish, almost never letting up, schools him on the ways of the ninja... then gets knocked out by... one punch.. i mean seriously??? naruto didnt so much as scuff his adidas slippers at anytime during the fight, but knocks Neji out in one PUNCH, not even some uber ultra hidden technique.. a punch.. *sigh*

that was uh.. damnit.. Neji is farrr to leet to be beaten by narutooo ummzzz ummzzz ok ok hear what ill do this, and then give some BS HARD WORK IS GREATER THAN ALL spiel and *gives the nice guy smile* everything will be cool!! yayz me!!

obviously painted himself into a corner with that matchup and then thought damnit how am i going to make him win when hes clearly outclassed... hmmmzzz

So if he does the same thing v pein... iam done, seriously
yes i will actually even give up all the sasuke goodness because i just wouldnt be able to tolerate anime anymore
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on October 03, 2008, 05:49:07 PM
I swear allyuh men readin ah different manga from me!

Naruto not equal to sasuke and cyar beat pein by himself and all dat rubbish. He is growing, and fast.

Think about sage level kage bushins, each with the ability to stand on their own. He is the perfect match
for the six faces of pein.

Add in his new fighting style, coupled with his ultra techniques and his unseen "that jutsu", seriously I will
swear all yuh talking about naruto at the level he was when he met sasuke at orochimaru's lair.

And look through the whole story, all 419 chapters, when naruto was face with adversity, he thinks extremely quick on his feet.

Finally if all else fail, we are gonna have one PISSED off fox waiting to reek havock on all. Say Naruto not ready for pein nah, the Jaraiya trained son of the Fourth. Go ahead.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 03, 2008, 06:01:27 PM
UG, finally a man who seeing sense.

I swear, just because Naruto does act goofy everybody think he have nothing. He is THE quickest learner in the entire Narutoverse. His learning ability puts everybody to shame, from Orochimaru, to Sasuke, to Jiraiya. Pain seems to have been tailor built from the very beginning as an enemy for Naruto to beat.
Pain has six (seven) forms, well Naruto is the only person that can use kage bunshins to match him. Pain's realms are restricted to one capability so Naruto gains advantage due to kage bunshins having complete abilities. Pain kills Naruto's master, Naruto must avenge.

He is going to beat Pain, and I GLAD.
GLAD. GLAD. GLAD.
Lol at help? From who? Tsunade? If Kishi's hints mean anything she have death comin jus now. Kakashi? Yamato? Let's get real.
SASUKE? Ah ha ha! Until he get his ass handed to him he not fighting side by side with Naruto. And since I haven't posted here in a while lemme just say how GLAD I am that Sasuke gettin show up left and right. First Itachi humble him, then Killerbee would've killed him if not for Hawk and then he f***s up the capture. GLAD.

So accept it. Naruto gonna waste him. He was built for Naruto to beat. I swear, Crixx woulda be runnin up and down d bus route cussin if Sasuke had any 'help' fighting Itachi.
"WTMC, DAT SUPPOSE TO BE 1 V 1!!"

Let Naruto have his moment, he's grown far more than anybody else and is a bonafide badman for a while now.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 03, 2008, 07:41:46 PM
I swear allyuh men readin ah different manga from me!

Naruto not equal to sasuke and cyar beat pein by himself and all dat rubbish. He is growing, and fast.

Think about sage level kage bushins, each with the ability to stand on their own. He is the perfect match
for the six faces of pein.

Add in his new fighting style, coupled with his ultra techniques and his unseen "that jutsu", seriously I will
swear all yuh talking about naruto at the level he was when he met sasuke at orochimaru's lair.

And look through the whole story, all 419 chapters, when naruto was face with adversity, he thinks extremely quick on his feet.

Finally if all else fail, we are gonna have one PISSED off fox waiting to reek havock on all. Say Naruto not ready for pein nah, the Jaraiya trained son of the Fourth. Go ahead.

total fanboyism
/disregarded

UG, finally a man who seeing sense.

I swear, just because Naruto does act goofy everybody think he have nothing. He is THE quickest learner in the entire Narutoverse. His learning ability puts everybody to shame, from Orochimaru, to Sasuke, to Jiraiya. Pain seems to have been tailor built from the very beginning as an enemy for Naruto to beat.
Pain has six (seven) forms, well Naruto is the only person that can use kage bunshins to match him. Pain's realms are restricted to one capability so Naruto gains advantage due to kage bunshins having complete abilities. Pain kills Naruto's master, Naruto must avenge.

He is going to beat Pain, and I GLAD.
GLAD. GLAD. GLAD.
Lol at help? From who? Tsunade? If Kishi's hints mean anything she have death comin jus now. Kakashi? Yamato? Let's get real.
SASUKE? Ah ha ha! Until he get his ass handed to him he not fighting side by side with Naruto. And since I haven't posted here in a while lemme just say how GLAD I am that Sasuke gettin show up left and right. First Itachi humble him, then Killerbee would've killed him if not for Hawk and then he f***s up the capture. GLAD.

So accept it. Naruto gonna waste him. He was built for Naruto to beat. I swear, Crixx woulda be runnin up and down d bus route cussin if Sasuke had any 'help' fighting Itachi.
"WTMC, DAT SUPPOSE TO BE 1 V 1!!"

Let Naruto have his moment, he's grown far more than anybody else and is a bonafide badman for a while now.

attemps to make a point,trips up on aforementioned fanboyism and fails once again.

and if yu have been reading the manga as yu claim to be, then "help" will not be any one ninja, it will be teh whole village probably + raikages squad.

rofl @ kage bunshins beating pein steups.
A man made a point early that yes pein ownt the man who schooled the sanins, but that was when they were young and inexperienced
well, pein killed that man and then killed teh uber expereinced jiraiya.

naruto is young an inexperienced, surely yu narunannies cannot be insinuating that he is badda than all three sanins plus salamander combined??

gtfo
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 03, 2008, 07:52:29 PM
   Can't tell what exactly will happen , but it should be a variation of one of the following scenarios :

1. A united effort from all of Konoha pushes Pein back , I believe A kakashi/Gai/Neji can hold down a single Pein body with some assistance , the entire konoha ninja force should be able to  find a weak spot (having a hint from Jiraiya) and make Pein retreat.
    Lots of casualties and damage are likely , Tsunadae dying is likely.
     Naruto may not even be involved in the fight, it makes sense to keep him hidden as he IS the target.

2. Pein trashes Konoha completely , gets bored after realising naruto isn't there , and moves on. Tsunadae dies for sure.

3.  A Naruto led counter attack kills pein , highly unlikely though.



I Believe Naruto will Eventually defeat Pein , but not right now , likely after the next timeskip .  
   Likely the  main storyline purpose of Peins attack is to kill Tsunadae and make Kakashi the 6th Hokage, and to give naruto  more purpose to kill pein beyond revenge for jiraiya.

 Pein is too big a villain to fall after just recently being introduced , we  just lost Orochimaru and Itachi for good , Kishi can't get rid of a character with so much potential overnight.


  
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on October 03, 2008, 08:02:15 PM
Dred why allyuh men feel pein is the be all end all dred. In my eyes Madara is the real ultimate villain, pein is just an obstacle that naruto needs to overcome

*edit I have alot to elaborate on this i just to lazy to type it all right now. And Crixx for the 10000000000nd time, nothing wrong with supportin the main character. The manga is called Naruto you know.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 03, 2008, 08:07:11 PM
and if yu have been reading the manga as yu claim to be, then "help" will not be any one ninja, it will be teh whole village probably + raikages squad.

rofl @ kage bunshins beating pein steups.
A man made a point early that yes pein ownt the man who schooled the sanins, but that was when they were young and inexperienced
well, pein killed that man and then killed teh uber expereinced jiraiya.

naruto is young an inexperienced, surely yu narunannies cannot be insinuating that he is badda than all three sanins plus salamander combined??

Ya, Pain killed Jiraiya. Jiraiya in sage mode. A sage mode Naruto has already mastered to a point beyond Jiraiya's abilities. Doh play like Naruto is a nothing.
Naruto is far from well rounded but everything he does do he does at a level beyond Jounin, beyond Sannin, beyond Kages.
Chakra? Ya he bun all a dem combined.
Power attack? Rasenshuriken, nuff said.
General toughness? Sage mode, can't touch this.
Ace in the hole? He's big, orange and has nine tails.

Lol at the idea of the whole village coming together with raikage. You think dis is NATO or what? This is gonna be a one man show, and that man is Naruto.
Everybody only yappin yappin about Hanzou, but without a doubt Hanzou walk straight into death because he would have known nothing about Rinnegan, nothing about the fact that Nagato wasn't with the other realms. Jiraiya got the info he needed with his life. Naruto will be going into this better prepared than anyone who's ever fought Pain.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 03, 2008, 08:09:36 PM
so... um intelligence is going to make naruto win??????
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on October 03, 2008, 08:23:08 PM
and if yu have been reading the manga as yu claim to be, then "help" will not be any one ninja, it will be teh whole village probably + raikages squad.

rofl @ kage bunshins beating pein steups.
A man made a point early that yes pein ownt the man who schooled the sanins, but that was when they were young and inexperienced
well, pein killed that man and then killed teh uber expereinced jiraiya.

naruto is young an inexperienced, surely yu narunannies cannot be insinuating that he is badda than all three sanins plus salamander combined??

Ya, Pain killed Jiraiya. Jiraiya in sage mode. A sage mode Naruto has already mastered to a point beyond Jiraiya's abilities. Doh play like Naruto is a nothing.
Naruto is far from well rounded but everything he does do he does at a level beyond Jounin, beyond Sannin, beyond Kages.
Chakra? Ya he bun all a dem combined.
Power attack? Rasenshuriken, nuff said.
General toughness? Sage mode, can't touch this.
Ace in the hole? He's big, orange and has nine tails.

Lol at the idea of the whole village coming together with raikage. You think dis is NATO or what? This is gonna be a one man show, and that man is Naruto.
Everybody only yappin yappin about Hanzou, but without a doubt Hanzou walk straight into death because he would have known nothing about Rinnegan, nothing about the fact that Nagato wasn't with the other realms. Jiraiya got the info he needed with his life. Naruto will be going into this better prepared than anyone who's ever fought Pain.

exar, i myself haven't posted on these boards in a while, but i glad i did tonight. Finally it nice to see some sense come out in these here naruto boards. And as usual, we only need to wait for the appropriate chapter to prove crixx wrong. Naruto is probably, at the end of this training, the strongest ninja in konoha
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: phoenix31tt on October 03, 2008, 08:39:45 PM
lol @ the air of closed mindedness by a certain person on this thread...
that's more fanboyism if you ask me...

my take on it is the same as when they fought kakuzu and hidan... there will be alot of fighting then naruto will show up with his newly acquired skills and do something spectacular...

maybe not kill pein or fight him 1v1... but none-the-less he will get him out of the village...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on October 04, 2008, 12:02:29 PM

total fanboyism
/disregarded


Crippling. Irony.


He is THE quickest learner in the entire Narutoverse.


You and I agree more often than not but he is not the quickest learner. Out of the obvious...Itachi and Sasuke are faster (Sharigan h4x>Kage Bunshin h4x). He's also not the quickest on his feet (although he's up there in terms of battle intelligence). Look see, the entire thing about Naruto in this manga is that he's not the greatest but that he makes the absolute best out of what he has.

rofl @ kage bunshins beating pein steups.
A man made a point early that yes pein ownt the man who schooled the sanins, but that was when they were young and inexperienced
well, pein killed that man and then killed teh uber expereinced jiraiya.

naruto is young an inexperienced, surely yu narunannies cannot be insinuating that he is badda than all three sanins plus salamander combined??


Please do not build strawmen of my point and selectively distort and misrepresent it. It's all I ask.

No one can kill pain without his secret. No one.

However...naruto will learn his secret. Naruto's sage mode has -ALREADY- been state to be complete and thus stronger than Jiraya's and will have the ability to learn the sage techniques and use them with greater efficiency. Something Jiraya hadn't been able to do in his entire life (speaks of his skill and his ability to learn quickly, though I still won't call him the fastest. Remember, kids; eye h4x). I will admit that Jiraya's still far more battle worthy than Naruto but come the hell on man! You're telling me that this Naruto whose sage mode has been said to surpass who Jiraya's, who pain ADMITTED WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM HAD HE KNOWN HIS SECRET, who whether you'd like to admit it or not has been lauded in the manga itself by Kakashi for possesing great battle intelligence, doesn't stand a lick of a chance against Pain?

You are not effin' real.

How many times does Kishimoto have to state thematically that the younger generation will surpass their elders?

You are not effin' real!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 04, 2008, 01:35:57 PM
You and I agree more often than not but he is not the quickest learner. Out of the obvious...Itachi and Sasuke are faster (Sharigan h4x>Kage Bunshin h4x). He's also not the quickest on his feet (although he's up there in terms of battle intelligence). Look see, the entire thing about Naruto in this manga is that he's not the greatest but that he makes the absolute best out of what he has.

Sharingan does have it's limitations though. Sharingan can't copy something like rasengan or sage mode.
Yes if it came down to who could learn 100 jutsu faster the Uchihas would own but I meant when it came to learning advanced techniques from scratch. He did learn rasengan faster than Sasuke learned chidori, and he obviously learned sage mode faster than Jiraiya. And that time his clone hax were used very sparingly, enough so that he would have still had far less training than Jiraiya did. And of course he learned tajuu kage bunshin no jutsu in an evening before he was even officially a genin.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 04, 2008, 02:21:49 PM


Sharingan does have it's limitations though. Sharingan can't copy something like rasengan or sage mode.
Yes if it came down to who could learn 100 jutsu faster the Uchihas would own but I meant when it came to learning advanced techniques from scratch. He did learn rasengan faster than Sasuke learned chidori, and he obviously learned sage mode faster than Jiraiya. And that time his clone hax were used very sparingly, enough so that he would have still had far less training than Jiraiya did. And of course he learned tajuu kage bunshin no jutsu in an evening before he was even officially a genin.
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really?? how long did it take sasuke to learn chidori??
we saw a time lapse of him after a few days/ a week with kakashi and that wasnt to learn JUST one jutsu
that was, learn to be rock lee + learn to use sharingan better+learn chidori

vs
us being shown naruto over a good amount of time with jiraiya, learning basic chakura control, to pull off one jutsu... wow..
any ways, i never said he doesnt learn fast, thanks to deus ex alot of time

and yes the younger generation does surpass the older generation
but not instantaneously
he may have grown and now been experienced to high level stuff in this sage thingy
but he is inexperienced and he is even more so inexperienced with the concept of fighting in a stance vs his usual brawling  style, which would have 0 effect on pein.

naruto needs the secret to be able to defeat pain
well.. lets just hope pein doesnt rape konoha before said secret is passed on to naruto...

and of course there is the possibility that sasuke will arrive at konoha as well... i dont think sasuke actually wants to destroy konoha
but in the event that he does and sasuke joins pein...
naruto 2v1 pein and sasuke and wins??
rofl
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 10, 2008, 07:58:04 AM
ok as i suggested
the stage has been set for how naruto will "beat" pein.

 Whole village gank + naruto charging sage mode.

On a lighter note, its great to finnaly see kakashi back in action , didnt realised i actually missed seeing ole one eye.

I thought iruka was gonna die there, wouldnt have minded, but pein is unleashing his uber God haxx, lets see how kakashi squirms out of this one.

And the most important part of this weeks manga??

ZOMG DID YU SEE THAT SEMI UPSKIRT ON INOUE???? ZOMG SHES SO HOT NOW YAY!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Netizen1 on October 10, 2008, 08:47:40 AM

And the most important part of this weeks manga??

ZOMG DID YU SEE THAT SEMI UPSKIRT ON INO UE ??? ZOMG SHES SO HOT NOW YAY!!!

fixed!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on October 10, 2008, 09:52:58 AM
ZOMG DID YU SEE THAT SEMI UPSKIRT ON INOUE???? ZOMG SHES SO HOT NOW YAY!!!

ok ero-crixx
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 10, 2008, 10:38:04 AM
I don't think Pain is going to die in Konoha, never did.
Kishi hinted alot of things last year and this wasn't one of them. I really don't think Pain will die till next year at least. But he will face off with Naruto and be very surprised at Naruto's power. Konoha in general will run him off. Tsunade will die.
But the real showdown will still be yet to take place.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on October 10, 2008, 11:40:50 AM
Well there is still suspicions as to whether the 'real' pain is even amougnst the bodies he's using at present. Even if all the bodies were defeated, chances are he has other reserves. I expect a combined konoha front to push pain back. I don't expect many of pains bodies to be defeated if any at all, and i'm still up in the air over whether tsunade will bite the dust yet or not... things going good atm, I hope the pace keeps up.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 10, 2008, 01:59:15 PM
bleach was failure this week so we will have to ride on the promise of goodness from next weeks naruto

i really thought iruka was dead there and i really think tsunade knows its in her fate to die in that fite, maybe to save kakashi sensei?

that was a cool jutsu with the doggy rocks thing by kakash, but God haxx>than roxx



also

i thought this was gonna be a one man show exar?????
ithought naruto was gonna single handedly fart bolts of epic f****** win an pwn pein by himself??
all that talk bout if this is nato?? hmmmm??
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: phoenix31tt on October 10, 2008, 05:06:09 PM
ithought naruto was gonna single handedly fart bolts of epic f****** win an pwn pein by himself??
all that talk bout if this is nato?? hmmmm??

i believed he was reffering to the statement sum1 (dunno if is u) made that raikage etc would need to help...

everybody else agreed that the defense of konoha would rest in the hands of the entire village

and then i believe naruto would come in to the end to chase of pein
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on October 10, 2008, 07:44:59 PM
Mouth watering all of the prospects
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 10, 2008, 10:25:55 PM
Like I said Crixx, Pain isn't going to die now. Naruto will bring him down single handedly at the end, but it won't be in Konoha.
Nagato isn't even in Konoha as far as we know so even if all those Pain bodies are killed he can just create a new crew as he probably have a next squad on ice back home.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: SPK on October 17, 2008, 05:10:46 AM
what a cold move by danzou ................so how will naruto get the message tha konoha is under attack?!?!?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on October 17, 2008, 07:09:57 AM
The man is a boss dread. He sneak up on a frog...A FROG...you know how MC hard that is to do? I fraid Danzou now dread.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 17, 2008, 08:34:30 AM
rofl @ danzou indeed what a p****y

w00t @ both kakashi and pein
that doggy raikiri was pretty hardmatic

its pretty clear that kishi is gonna sacrifice more people to get naruto all hot and bothered and have a big nasty battle

but if we are lucky
sakura will be the sacrifice and not kakashi
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 17, 2008, 10:28:28 AM
  It makes political sense , no kakashi or Tsunadae leaves Danzou to rule the village.
 
 Kakashi should live hopefully , he still has the MS trump card to play to save himself at least.
 
  Naruto will eventually find his way , home , its just a matter of how much of konoha is left standing when he arrives.
 

 This reminds me of Kakashi Gaiden when Yondaime was the one who came to save the day , its an interesting parallel as Naruto is finally taking up his father's mantle as protector , and may even end up saving kakashi.

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on October 17, 2008, 04:35:30 PM
Anyone else realize the single 'new' frame with naratu has him standing in front of what looks like large trees... SLICED... if I had to guess what he's been working on, it's a rasenshiruken using a combination of natual energy, his chakra (if we're REALLY lucky the demon chakra) and most likely it's a Krillin type destructo disc attack. It's the only thing that makes sense, seeing as he can't use it as normal (does to much damage on self) and seeing as the single frame showed things sliced in the distance as well... the final evolution of the Rasengan has cometh.

Pein getting on as crixx would put it, REAL HARDMATIC, it was nice to see kakashi do nature/shape manipulation on that level and things looking rough for Konoha atm... I also bet they going to go after dem chakra poles in each of pein's bodies as they are surely part of his secret.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 17, 2008, 04:42:39 PM
you know

i $%^&ing thought destructo disk instantly when i saw the damage to the trees and mountains but thought nah

they wouldnt be that cheap

i hope we are wrong
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 17, 2008, 10:42:55 PM
I wonder if those poles are all that's connecting Nagato to the bodies?
Think about it a sec, he uses rinnegan to see what the bodies see and then transmits his orders via the poles...idk. Knock out the poles and maybe these mofos will drop.

I don't think kakashi will die, Kishi said last year that Kakashi was going to see some big moves.

Lol at the sig Crixx.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 18, 2008, 01:28:37 AM
i think everyone is secretly loling @ my sig
but are afraid of blaspheming and all that to admit it
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on October 18, 2008, 01:45:48 AM
i think everyone is secretly loling @ my sig
but are afraid of blaspheming and all that to admit it


Yeah but who they gonna call??
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on October 18, 2008, 06:29:56 AM
Crixx_Creww, duuude wuz wit d obscene
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rassmatic on October 18, 2008, 09:31:47 AM
i wonderin dat too
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on October 18, 2008, 09:36:29 AM
That XKCD joke is soooooo unoriginal.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on October 18, 2008, 09:59:54 AM
LOl wait. allyuh could be on crixx no scene, but leave xkcd out of this!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 24, 2008, 06:05:40 AM
go kakash sensei!!!!!

for a second i was like nooeeez!!!
but then kakash leet haxx an fat man to de winzz!! goooo fattiees!!


an steups at paper girl
she goin an kill man with paper cuts??
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 25, 2008, 09:43:20 AM
 How many chidori did kakashi buss since the fight started?

I wonder if he raised his old limit of 4 through training.

 chakra has always been the biggest thing holding him back.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on October 31, 2008, 08:50:59 AM
hes not dead
cant be dead

hes up to trixxyness

still
pein=op++++++
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on October 31, 2008, 10:01:06 AM
Yeah I don't wanna see kakashi go out like that, although if he has to fall to an enemy might as well be pein.... and yes pein is op+++++++++++++++++

What I DON'T want to see however is Kakashi stopping the nail using pein's ability via his haxor sharingan... that would kill it... It could be a dotan bushin, or perhaps he used the mangekyou, which would mean next is bye bye god realm pein. That body is gosu with those abilities, but won't do him much good if all the space around him are sucked into nothingness...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on October 31, 2008, 04:40:47 PM
I believe it is a straight genjutsu used to escape death this time. More than likely data gathering as well.

Take note of the words at the bottom of the last page:

"Next week: pay close attention."

Kakashi is not dead. He's too cunning to go out so easily. Was probably counting on Pein to stay from distance and 'finish' him off...

Now I am really excited.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on October 31, 2008, 05:17:53 PM
My first thought as to how he gonna get out of that situation was to use the mangekyou and send the nail to the next dimension, but rethinking that now cuz of the fact that he said he only had about half of his chakra left. fingers crossed tho.

From what I've heard from someone who reads japanese, and this might just as well be very little, the literal translation of that last line of the manga was "a hero falls" or something to that effect.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on October 31, 2008, 06:16:43 PM
The translation on Narutofan uses "a hero falls" as well.
With "Kakashi leaves one last thing behind" at the very bottom.

I wonder if maybe Pain didn't kill him with the nail. He wanted to show him true pain, maybe he's going to make him suffer? Long enough for Gai or something to show up?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 03, 2008, 10:07:48 AM
If Kakashi has pulled Tsukiyomi out his @$$ i'd be most impressed...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 03, 2008, 12:10:57 PM
pein real real bad mind doh...

it would suck if kakashi goes down in history, as de ninja that was sorted by .. a nail...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 06, 2008, 10:15:11 AM
Based on the spoilers i've seen, Pein is continuing to bring the pain... Looks like it's really the end of an era with the 'older' nins dropping left fat... I mean front and centre... I may get my post 2nd time skip, apocalyptic dark and peinful future in the Naruverse yet!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: tweety on November 06, 2008, 10:22:28 AM
based on the same spoilers i can see this happening in the future..

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w273/benweeks/Dynamic_entry_1.jpg)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on November 22, 2008, 11:17:47 AM
Now this is some BS. How d hell kishi could prevent the merge. He does have to make  naruto the underdog all d time. And where guy and lee and hyuuga. I have a feeling something big coming
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on November 22, 2008, 11:50:32 AM
Now this is some BS. How d hell kishi could prevent the merge. He does have to make  naruto the underdog all d time. And where guy and lee and hyuuga. I have a feeling something big coming

A: Suspensful drama?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: SPK on November 27, 2008, 06:28:27 PM
i wonder if kishi goin to kill konohamaru kun???
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 27, 2008, 10:37:47 PM
HIGHLY doubtful. Kishi isn't going to kill potential, and the younger generation is just that, potential.
No I think we're gonna see Konohamaru rasengan Hell Realm who will then get up from it like nothing happened and Knonhamaru and Ebisu will then escape.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 27, 2008, 11:26:13 PM
yu think konohamaru is going to rasengan him....seriously....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: tweety on November 27, 2008, 11:31:53 PM
sexy jutsu is most definitely out.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 27, 2008, 11:36:45 PM
... i actually wouldnt mind it as a feint

he sexy jutsu with a bunshin and sneak up for some attempted leet base attack

i seriously cannot imagine konohamaru doing anything greater than sakura/ino level back in chuunin exam.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on November 28, 2008, 09:20:34 AM
I'm thinking someone else leet will step in and save them.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on November 28, 2008, 10:54:26 AM
maybe the long in coming neji lee guy + lightning village people
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 28, 2008, 05:42:30 PM
Well let's put it this way, he mentions that Naruto taught him a jutsu, Naruto from before the time skip.
We already know that he can use kage bunshin (which btw is impressive for a new genin) and he knows the harem jutsu. Naruto is hardly brimming with jutsu so if he taught him one it has to be either kuchiyose no jutsu or rasengan. And I doubt Konohamaru gonna be summoning anybody.

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on November 28, 2008, 08:19:30 PM
I doubt he'll be using rasengan either, thats a Jounin level jutsu .

Likely its some form of feint with Kage bunshin ,  Konohamaru is the grandson of a hokage, same family as Asuma , he would have something half decent up his sleeve like a fire release technique as well.

I doubt he'll be killed though .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on November 28, 2008, 10:03:47 PM
He already knows a jounin level jutsu, kage bunshin.
And he did say that Naruto taught him the technique. naruto can't do jack with katons.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on December 10, 2008, 01:17:34 PM
yu think konohamaru is going to rasengan him....seriously....

(http://i3.6.cn/cvbnm/b2/3e/e6/b3940ee1290e64200b52031d9b056af1.jpg)

Translation: "Rasengan!"
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 10, 2008, 11:00:03 PM
yu think konohamaru is going to rasengan him....seriously....

*W1nTry looks into mirror whilst performing Tsukiyomi*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: tweety on December 11, 2008, 08:00:36 AM
using bunshins and it being the size of an acorn......yeah naruto style.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 12, 2008, 07:35:58 AM
Wow Crixx, look like you wrong...again lol.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on December 12, 2008, 11:07:23 AM
Wow Crixx, look like you wrong...again lol.

Whats new .. lol

But konohamaru's tiny little rasengan, kage bushin style did impress me. He should be a pretty good ninja by now.

He's at the age where naruto and sasuke had their jounin level battle. I think he progressed pretty well. Lord knows how long i wanted to see some chapters focused on him and his crew
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 12, 2008, 11:56:26 AM
I don't see why anyone should be surprised by his prowess. He was doing kage bunshin soon after becoming a genin, which is in itself an A rank skill.

I think they frames him pretty well, he obviously isn't as accomplished as Naruto given how much smaller his rasengan is and the fact that he needs to clone to help him hold it but Konohamaru is from first class ninja stock.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 12, 2008, 12:29:03 PM
Yall forgetting one important thing, the kage bushin splits chakra amoungst the clones. Naruto is a CHAKRA TANK, hence his ransengan was/will always been surperior to MOST nin. That being said, this is a decent feat for a genin and Konohamaru deserves some credit. However I don't think it is enough to deal with Pain... just short of seriously injuring or destroying a body completely, a rasengan lower than Naruto's won't keep a Pain Body down for long. Man Akatsuki garb not even torn... O_o
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 17, 2008, 11:55:14 AM
SPOILER ALERT!!!

(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7818/29mq5omrj5.th.jpg) (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=29mq5omrj5.jpg)

My post 2nd time skip apocalyptic battle for survival seems nigh!!!

*W1nTry activates Mangekyou and peers into the narutoverse future*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on December 17, 2008, 04:00:45 PM
dbz time travel imminent.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on December 19, 2008, 07:05:45 AM
*speechless after pain's attack*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 19, 2008, 08:09:08 AM
...
lol he just made up for all the ridiculous konohamaru and naruto nonsense.. wow.. just wow..

Tensei is a aoe burning attack in Guildwars,very disgusting attack there, so i guess its something legendary.. wow.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 19, 2008, 08:29:43 AM
WOW.... just read the latest chapter and wow... I wonder if the summoning technique was like that of what's going on in bleach where they displaced the village in a temporal rift.... Otherwise and this is strict speculation, the summoning scroll seen at the end of the chp has what looks like flames on the edges could it be that scroll we saw Jaraiya signed before he died, the scroll that controls the kyubi seal? whatever it is, they made it out to seem as though pain had to take notice because of it's power...next week is a chapter to read (IF they have one considering it's boxing day XD)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 19, 2008, 08:56:31 AM
maybe port the hospital to their location
sense sense

... just wow once again

hope he culled the herd of the useless ninja though.. would be tres annoying if he did all that to just blow up some buildings
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 19, 2008, 10:35:42 AM
Well crixx I am inclined to believe that most of the village would be safe as it was in the fillers (imagine that) that they showed the emergency procedure for the village. They all huddle in the corner together in a shelter housed in the mountain (behind the hokage heads). So I am thinking most are alive (well the normal civilians) the nin in the village on the other hand... shino and pops, dogs, etc... all should be flatter than a paper strip after sitting under a steamroller for a week....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: SUPR3M3 on December 19, 2008, 04:26:10 PM
Never expected this turn of events.
The thought never made it in my mind that Pain would launch an attack like that.
EPIC!!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on December 24, 2008, 01:51:54 PM
hmm these weeks spoilers are out...somewhat

summary from SRK

(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3025/334tfg1ab0py1.jpg)

Quote
naruto goes back (looks shaded on a scroll, he has a cape thing like the 4th)
ナルト、あまりの惨劇に場所わからず
naruto can't recognize the place due to all the destruction
イルカ、シカマル親子、チョウジ親子、キバ親子は生きてる
iruka, shikamaru (father son) chouji (father son) kiba (mother son) are alive
カカシは1コマだけで生死わからず
kakashi...still not sure but he's in 1 panel.
ヒアシは留守だったみたい
hiashi was away from the town (or on patrol, not sure...)
綱手が創造再生してカツユに全チャクラを渡したから皆助かった模様(額マーク無くなる)
Tsuande has used souzouzaisei and given all her chakra to katsuya to help everyone (the mark on her forehead is gone)
閻魔が豆ペイン食べて豆ペイン復活
Enma eats 'bean' Pein who then comes back to life
天道に全チャクラ集めたのはリスク高く、コナンが看ると言っている
gathering all the chakra in tendou was risky, konan offers to treat him
豆ペインが綱手襲うもナルト瞬殺
bean pain goes after Tsunade but naruto kills him instantly.
4代目、ジライヤと重なる背中
He has the 4th and Jiraiya's at his back.
最後にナルト、ケリつけてやる!
Final page is naruto 'let's finish this'


Maybe it'd be better is I summarized it based on what I understand.

Naruto shows up in Sage Mode and has changed his costume which appears to be resemble something akin to Yondaime. He along with Gamabunta, Gamaken, and a Green Frog summon 400 frogs. Hinata is seen with two Hyuugas who at first were thought to be Hanabi and Hiashi but are actually just escorts for Hinata amid the rubble. At some point Hinata and Sakura are together and they see Naruto and Pain and comment on how great Naruto is/or are impressed with him after his return.


The visuals are like I thought they would be. If I say 'Clothes like the 4th' will you get it?

最初から仙人モードです。クリリンをやられた時のゴクウ並の強さです。
蛙的には先代を超えたらしいです
He's already in sennin mode, He looks as strong as Goku after kuririn was killed.
frog-wise he's stronger than the previous generation (jiraiya?)

影分身じゃないです。
it's not a bunshin

ちなみにヒナタと一緒にいるコウって誰か知ってます?
by the way, who is that with hinata?

両方男です。
they are both guys

ヒナタと一緒にいるのはヒアシ様、ハナビ様の留守中に何かあったら私の恥だと。
hinata is with Hiashi and Hanabi who worries that if anything happens while he was 'on patrol' it would cause great shame for him (NB not sure if this means the village or something happening to hanabi)

サ クラと一緒に いるの、すごいよペインを一撃でとか。ていうか、ハナビはそもそもヒナタの妹じゃない?
together with sakura amazing, Pain beaten with one hit. I mean Hanabi is Hinata's sister, right? (the Japanese is fcked up too, did you copy it right?)
ガマはブンタにガマケン、みどりの蛙にナルトが呼ぶ蛙のよんひき
[this sentence makes little sense grammatically] gama and Bunta as well as gamaken, the green frog is called by naruto's 4 frogs.

ゴメン、ヒアシとハナビは留守で、ヒナタの護衛係みたいな奴の言葉です。
sorry, hiashi and hinabi are 'on patrol' or so hinata's guard type guys says.

ペインやったのはナルトです。サクラと一緒にいる日向はナルトすげーって言ってます。
Naruto was the one who got pein. Sakura who is with Hinata says 'he's amazing'

いやたぶん無駄なザコキャラかと
hmm, maybe it's a useless fodder character or something.


Little notes about second script translation by me:

Enma is not the monkey, it's that monster with black flames that the Hell Realm Pain (the one who fought Konohamaru) uses to judge if a person is telling the truth.
Also, "Bean" Pain is probably Demon realm (the one that Kakashi destroyed, that with a lot of arms and faces).
This would mean that Hell Pain is the one who can bring the wrecked bodies back to 'life' and he did it with Demon realm who after all got defeated again by Naruto \o.
PS: I'm guessing that "bean pain" is Demon realm because past spoilers always called him "bean/beam pain" It's like Japanese people also gives nicknames to Pain bodies (like we call Hunger realm "Fat pain")
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 24, 2008, 02:15:13 PM
Well crixx I am inclined to believe that most of the village would be safe as it was in the fillers (imagine that) that they showed the emergency procedure for the village. They all huddle in the corner together in a shelter housed in the mountain (behind the hokage heads). So I am thinking most are alive (well the normal civilians) the nin in the village on the other hand... shino and pops, dogs, etc... all should be flatter than a paper strip after sitting under a steamroller for a week....

I'm sure they showed that during the Sound attacking the village. Maybe that was a filler scene but I remember seeing that during Oro's attack during the chuunin exams.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on December 28, 2008, 09:57:13 AM
Getting naruto withdrawals after seeing this spoiler since Thursday morning:

http://narutoverse.blogspot.com/2008/12/naruto-430-spoiler.html

To think a whole week again, damn.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on December 29, 2008, 09:02:28 PM
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/430/01/
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 29, 2008, 09:04:52 PM
hmm
thinking the translation seems pretty solid

will rewatch the hq when it comes out to see the art better, hopefully in some colours

lol that was like rezzing ah man in lineage with no buffs and he get pk again right after
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on December 30, 2008, 09:07:48 PM
After reading this weeks manga all i have to say is


I wonder what a kyuubi release with look like now with all that power.....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on December 30, 2008, 09:54:51 PM
Finally, at this point, i don't think pain has a chance
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on December 30, 2008, 10:18:43 PM
Finally, at this point, i don't think pain has a chance

Don't be so sure you saw what he did to Konoha? Naruto didn't even recognise the place....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on December 30, 2008, 10:45:41 PM
It too tense to make predictions.....

we've only seen samples of what naruto can do using sage techniques, and I am sure Pain has abilities to be revealed

but this will be one heck of a battle!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on December 31, 2008, 09:40:28 AM
but this will be one heck of a battle!!
It better be!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on December 31, 2008, 11:38:19 AM
 Whatever happens , i'm pretty sure Pein will survive , even if naruto kills all 6 bodies the real Pein is still hidden.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on December 31, 2008, 05:42:32 PM
That chapter was tops. That little cloak make Naruto outfit look so much better.
And even though his demolition of that Pain body was just his introduction big up I'm sure things will be entertaining overall.

Notice though how they're still dangling Kakashi's fate in front of us. A slug was clearly affixed to him in this chapter.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on December 31, 2008, 08:07:19 PM
yeah i dont appreciate they playing with our emotions with the kakashi thing
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on January 02, 2009, 01:51:59 PM
they won't try to heal someone who already dead, so he must be alive

So the whole meeting with his father was to what?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 02, 2009, 01:58:50 PM
they won't try to heal someone who already dead, so he must be alive

So the whole meeting with his father was to what?

Probably for his pops to say, well time for me to go, YOU (meaning Kakashi) on the other hand have a village to get back to XD.

Anyone else here think the scroll on Naruto back is actually a Kage Bushin that is Henge to a scroll and possibly sealed to prevent it from dispelling? I mean how else would he maintain senin mode? he couldn't very well have a bushin wrapped onto his back like he carrying a cripple? place your bets ppl!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on January 02, 2009, 02:04:37 PM
my initial take on his haxx sage mode would have been
him or clone hiding in de bush mainting ah sageness
and he running around in noob sage mode still getting pwned
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 16, 2009, 02:56:55 AM
It's out: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/431/01/ (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/431/01/)

Up until now Naruto has been over shadowed by sasuke even with his powerful techniques... however... for the FIRST... ok maybe SECOND time (1st being his fight with Gaara) Naruto is pwning! and if it were just regular nin fine, but he is dropping Pain's left front and centre... it's was about time Naruto finally came into his own!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on January 16, 2009, 06:14:24 AM
nice demonstration but i expect that everything he just did will be very mehish one pain starts fighting back. NAruto just pretty much laid all his cards out there..pains got about a million sleeves to pull tricks out of... but again with the teasing about kakashi...
oh and the genki damas.. lolz seriously lolz
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on January 16, 2009, 07:01:07 AM
I just want to say......naruto kinda looking like he about to lay a smack down on somebodies

I just read the manga and my pores still raised......probably because of the 2 week wait steups......all the same WOW

I still have to agree with Crix.....naruto isn't the creative naruto we've come to expect so.....this battle seems like it will take a while.....or so I hope
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on January 16, 2009, 12:35:29 PM
Lol Spirit bomb indeed.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on January 23, 2009, 06:58:54 AM
Ah boy....the fight gets serious now finally pein is ready to settle down and fight. That wind shuriken had to be the illest attack i've seen thus far imagine my surprise to see naruto throw it
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 23, 2009, 07:29:08 AM
Ah boy....the fight gets serious now finally pein is ready to settle down and fight. That wind shuriken had to be the illest attack i've seen thus far imagine my surprise to see naruto throw it
I'm not, i've been saying it a while now... Naruto distructo disc.... that aside, Naruto take out 4 of Pains bodies... that in and of itself is quite a task. Now the question is... without sage techniques and clearly reaching his limit... will he call upon his 'other' source of power? now would be more convenient XD. I mean the village already destroyed, couldn't hurt to flatten the place a bit more XD
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on January 23, 2009, 08:52:57 AM
lolz@ being surprised at that
who didnt see that coming, cause clearly he wasnt hittin nobody again with that melee attack.
Like i said,nice demonstration by naruto. do some flashy inconsequential shit. Pein has not even begun to fight yet its most amusing.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on January 23, 2009, 10:09:08 AM
LOL 'other' power
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on January 23, 2009, 11:18:11 AM
All he has left are God, Human and Useless Realm, I mean Hell Realm. The only one there posing a real threat is God imo.

But here's hoping Naruto does indeed call Kyuubi into play.
But I wasn't surprised when he threw it, when it expanded yeah but not the throw.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on January 23, 2009, 11:26:49 AM
I wasn'tt expecting it to expannd either, but it makes sense. It is a highly compressed mass of manipulated chakra.  Without it being in the palm of his hand where he can maintain control over it, it would begin tto dissipate as it move away from his control. Of  course  it is an unexpected benefit of sorts, though I would expect it has a range as it would become less and less concentrated as the distance increases.

It would be nice to see him go Naruubi... but he made that waft vow to use his own power etc... so I think he'll do it himself or he'll get help from here on.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on January 23, 2009, 12:44:42 PM
Double Rasengan made me remember Goku using kamehameha balls underwater...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 06, 2009, 09:14:43 AM
i made predicitions
they have all pretty much come true, save for a few twist here and there
told sax that there would be shinra tensai's for all to be had and Pein blessed us mightily with them.

but i notice the fan boy camp is mighty quiet
hmm
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: JOAT on February 06, 2009, 10:14:22 AM
so who say sasuke gonna have to bail naruto and konoha out eventually ^_^ kampai!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 06, 2009, 11:10:38 AM
I eh know what crixx talking about, I've been making predictions like Naruto's destructo disc yuh doh see me tooting meh own horn. That aside Naruto is going to get away from pain, whether it be with help (read Team Guy or some combination of frogs+Konoha nins) he won't be killed DUH.

Now question, the Pain body that is absorbing chakra, how would he fare against a Hyuga? they can cut off your chakra circulation... he absorbs chakra... would he just absorb the chakra used against him? or would their chakra poison his circulatory system (like Neji vs. Spider dude) and would it be an interesting fight?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 06, 2009, 11:13:16 AM
1 pein body v entire hyuuga?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 06, 2009, 11:15:44 AM
1 pein body v entire hyuuga?
Obviously not, but at least vs. Neji.

We all know the god realm pain could take on the whole clan... but I am interested in the one that drains chakra.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 06, 2009, 11:22:32 AM
hmm

ive wondered about that guy that sasuke fought in the exam, cant believe i forgot his name now
who sucked chakura, ive wondered if that was a blood line jutsu or not and if not if sasuke latently has the ability.

But back to this guy, well technically if he can passively aborb chakura with his hole body and not just through his hands then he should be able to counter jyuken.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 06, 2009, 12:49:45 PM
.....to me it look like he went stabby on naruto......


<_<

Hey it IS the season.....and i am shocked miche....Oro eh show up yet to take a lil small chook
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 06, 2009, 01:59:38 PM
Like yuh forget, Itachi lay the smack on Oro so he only on Macaulay Culki.... I mean Kabuto case now XD
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 06, 2009, 02:57:34 PM
look how alyuh like to sully the name of great men

buh how come alyuh doh talk bout jiraiya fobsin up naruto in he boxers an ting
alyuh nuh right
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 06, 2009, 03:19:07 PM
It worse that that... yuh have Tsunade teaching Sakura 'healing techniques' and if yuh watching the anime.. naruto getting molested by frogs too... Jaraiya is a REAL nasty man.... O_o
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 06, 2009, 03:25:09 PM
ahahah thanks for the impartialism
lol i didnt even think bout the slow hand techniques between sakura an tsunade lolz
you know i used to Loveee tsunade.. now iam mad taht pein didnt kill her.. hmm
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 06, 2009, 04:00:55 PM
But then you have to implicate Kakashi in that dance too remember his two finger justsu he liked to use on naruto...

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 06, 2009, 04:40:58 PM
But then you have to implicate Kakashi in that dance too remember his two finger justsu he liked to use on naruto...
Indeed... and let's not forget the REAL culprit here! the 3rd!!! Jaraiya, Tsunade AND Oro were under him... where yuh think they pic up their bad habits? and he was always liming around the acadamy!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 06, 2009, 10:29:38 PM
 I'd think Tsunadae will step in and try to save naruto with some final jutsu she has up her sleeve ,and die soon after.

 Sasuke jumping in is a foreseeable twist but i doubt it will happen , more likely Gai will unleash all the chakra gates and  the remaining pain bodies at the cost of his own life ,or Kakashi will revive and use some uber jutsu.

Most likely we'll see hinata , neji , Gai and the remainder of konoha jump in and fail to rescue naruto at first, just for the cutseyness of it.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 06, 2009, 11:33:53 PM
^^ Shame shame to think that you don't think naruto can pull this off on his own or that he "needs" to be saved.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 07, 2009, 10:31:59 AM
 Naruto IS the strongest konoha ninja in raw power , but he's far from hokage , he doesn't have the wisdom and experience to be a great leader as yet.
   
 And if you look at it one way , Jounin are supposed to command at least 2 elements in their jutsu , Naruto is  still on 1 element , for all his raw power he lacks finessee . 

Naruto won't be Naruto if he didn't have a hard time occasionally .
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on February 07, 2009, 11:37:39 AM
Well Konoha isn't gonna just let Pein stroll out of there with Naruto over his shoulder.

These is the master frogs' genjutsu still to perform...

and as was mentioned earlier, Neji, Lee, Tenten and Gai still yet to make their "Dynamic Entry"

I just feel Neji and possibly even Hinata will be the heroes here.


The only other possibility is that Pein just caught a mere bunshin...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 07, 2009, 02:06:30 PM
OR


In a genjutsu or something similar cause isn't the old frog supposed to be doing something right now


I would really prefer if naruto beats pein on his own.....cause pein is too cool for school STILL
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 07, 2009, 04:19:24 PM
I made that statement vaguely to see if anyone else thinks like me. "Naruto" in my eyes, also refers to any of his affiliates as part of his jutsu. So all the toads helping out all counts as naruto.

Why he won't need help from any of konoha, is because we all know naruto's ability to pull a rabbit out of a hat even if he doesn't even have a hat. But the solution is one week away. We'll see.

Oh about the battle experience, who has faced stronger opponents at a younger age than naruto. Haku, Gaara, Oro, Kakazu etc. He might not have fought hundreds of battle, but the few that he did fight, is worth more experience than the hundreds.

Also, hokages can't merge spacial with elemental chakra. So to say than jounins use 2 elements and he only knows one, when jounins can't merge spacial, completely discredits that argument (Though i get what you were saying).

Just my 2 Cents
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 07, 2009, 04:23:35 PM
its not a bunshin
bunshin was destroyed with the shinra tensai

hes getting pwned
no big surprise here
no crawling underground and hitting pein once and ending the fight
none of that rubbish

from the start i said it would take an epic gank to take pein down
if it comes, no surprise there
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on February 07, 2009, 06:35:50 PM
I like that phrase there UG, pulling a rabbit out of a hat with no hat.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 08, 2009, 08:24:04 PM
If Naruto is going to break free on his own it will be with the help of the frogs and/or Kyubi. We all know he made that promise to himself to not call on the kyubi etc, but think about it... what happens when Naruto loses ALL his chakra? what has ALWAYS HAPPENED? the Fox steps in. Now consider his situation, he has one of Pain's bodies sucking the chakra out of him... however up until now that body has been absorbing normal or natural chakra... the Kyubi chakra is Poisonous to anyone else and EVEN to naruto when used in excessive amounts. I am almost positive if naruto started to be surrounded by the Kyubi chakra now it would damage that body of pain or in the least get him to let go. And then we'd have a very believeable situation.
Naruto going Naruubi means Pain has to use alot of power to escape certain death and in so doing it will force him to retreat. Once that happens, it will take the remaining Konoha nin to subdue him (aka Yamato and team gai). What say ye? it's been TOO long since we've seen Kyubi after all!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 09, 2009, 01:32:43 AM
You have a point there W1n. I have been praying to see kyuubi again. One of the things that had me thinking about the exact situation, which u so rightly pointed out, whether or not naruto wants to, when all his chakra is gone and death is upon him, kyuubi takes over.

But he still has his last bushin there and his toads. So until the end of next chapter, i am just waiting in anticipation
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 13, 2009, 08:37:38 AM
sooo... Black Friday beat dong??

Roast frog leg is ah flick.

Buh de shizune thing was unnecessary.. and they still mc playing with our emotions with kakashi.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 13, 2009, 11:42:14 AM
..........pein jus dread

Frog man get take out.....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 13, 2009, 12:53:23 PM
Well it seems the remaining konoha nin are going to save the day here... no kyubi for us... *sighs* it also seems the enemy has fallen for the cliche "I am winning so I can spill my gutts whilst the good guys figure out a way to beat me routine*.... that aside Team Gai where art thou?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on February 13, 2009, 01:05:33 PM
I wanna see what Ino's dad comes up with, I for one am pissed that Ten Ten is not dead..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 13, 2009, 01:30:41 PM
wda was alyuh men hate for females??
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 13, 2009, 09:31:25 PM
  Whatever solution is coming will be completely unprecedented , not just a simple Kyuubi release or anything we'v seen before.
   
   I think it will involve the suriviving ninja banding together to confront Pain , he's  probably by far the greatest threat the village has ever faced , Even kyuubi probably didnt' do so much damage back in the day.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 14, 2009, 12:07:02 AM
^^ nah boy kyuubi take out rel ninja remember how many orphan's there were while Naruto was growing up
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 17, 2009, 11:12:33 AM
^^ nah boy kyuubi take out rel ninja remember how many orphan's there were while Naruto was growing up
But the fourth prevented it from destroying the village... from both a colateral damage perspective... Pain run up in Konoha and level (pun intended) the village...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 18, 2009, 10:20:10 AM
Pein kill the orphans an all this rounds so outside with kyubi
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 18, 2009, 10:53:14 AM
Pein kill the orphans an all this rounds so outside with kyubi
Doh get take, the majority of konoha populace I am sure were safely inside the shelter in the mountain. It's the infrastructure that took the hit this time. If Kyubi were to show up now who in Konoha could seriously take it on? *W1nTry listens to crickets churping*... at least the nin had some kinda chance with Pain.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 18, 2009, 12:13:36 PM
Pein kill the orphans an all this rounds so outside with kyubi
Doh get take, the majority of konoha populace I am sure were safely inside the shelter in the mountain. It's the infrastructure that took the hit this time. If Kyubi were to show up now who in Konoha could seriously take it on? *W1nTry listens to crickets churping*... at least the nin had some kinda chance with Pain.

I am sure there is a nin somewhere who we don't know about with the power to take on the Kyubi.....in root.....or.....*Cross abandon's the chain of thought*

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 18, 2009, 01:24:29 PM
Hyuuga still around.outside wit da mountain talk,orphan stew.
Or sasuke daimo sama will come smack the goggy on his nose again.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 18, 2009, 02:04:25 PM
"sasuke" stueps

hyuuga lee and/or guy might save the day. Though i stand by my first notion that naruto doesn't need saving just yet. When his last bushin has been expunged, maybe then he might need saving
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on February 20, 2009, 05:52:50 AM
**spoiler alert**









Kinda ironic after looking at the latest manga that the 'puppet master' is a cripple on level IVs (if i can cell them that), yet has all this ridiculous power. You'd think that his ability to walk was a given...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: sp3 on February 20, 2009, 07:10:19 AM
my god,we finaly got to see the real pain.
Heh at 1st i thought it wuz oro.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 20, 2009, 07:49:50 AM
Look at pein's condition. A miserable cripple. And look at his current state. He was severely manners by naruto. And i constantly saying naruto go beat the real pein all the time and nobody en believe me.

Though i think i am starting to understand peins motive clearly now.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 20, 2009, 07:51:28 AM
lolz leet wheel chair haxx

how are j00 feeling after being beat by leet wheelchair bound ninjatician lolz
but well see if they goin an gyank him in his lair, and if he could battle dem off wit paper an some 40s as sax say,whilst keeping konoha @ bay
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 20, 2009, 07:53:10 AM
Look at pein's condition. A miserable cripple. And look at his current state. He was severely manners by naruto. And i constantly saying naruto go beat the real pein all the time and nobody en believe me.

Though i think i am starting to understand peins motive clearly now.

severly manners by naruto??? are we not reading the same mc manga??
who is currently pinned like a mc badting to the floor right now?
who get his village and his allies beat out?
who frogs get stab out and brok up like rihanna?
steupssssss way boy fanboyism to the rescue yes
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on February 20, 2009, 08:09:43 AM
LOL  @ Crixx


Pein is definitely Nagato.

I still can't understand .. ALL THAT POWER and can't walk.

Still, to be your own cell phone tower is rather cool.

Even if they do find Pein, 'paper mario' will be there to challenge them.

Where is Gai and co.?

Where is Zetsu and Madara?





Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: sp3 on February 20, 2009, 09:36:08 AM
heh,i knew that he'd beat pain.but when?
and y does pain look so crippled?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on February 20, 2009, 10:11:45 AM
i doubt CRIXX of all people calling someone else a fanboy... i doubt :D
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 20, 2009, 04:29:40 PM
i doubt CRIXX of all people calling someone else a fanboy... i doubt :D

LMAO... I am sure that pain's current condition is a direct result of his abilities... you know the cliche great power comes with great risk... so the constant transmission and reception of massive amounts of chakra eventually drains the host.... the eventuality is his current condition...

Yuh hadda feel for pain though.. the man was an orphan because of war, saw all his fellow nin and even friends dying around him... I doh give de man wrong for walking in and laying the SMACK down.... I just hope he doh die... the man is too bad@$$ a char to kill off cause he overexert heself... that would be an anticlimax... though I mean seriously.. how else would they defeat him....

As for madara etc.. well prolly buggering sasuke soemwhere XD
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on February 20, 2009, 05:05:12 PM

As for madara etc.. well prolly buggering sasuke soemwhere XD

level daggerin'    *runs away*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 20, 2009, 06:14:24 PM

Steups when alyuh start to make unfounded claims against great men, it just shows off alyuh insecurities and maybe windows into freudian latent (or maybe not so latent) deviant preferencesm
Don't h8 gaiz, appreciate. I sense the on coming of plot twist. Involving the great one
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: sp3 on February 20, 2009, 06:49:52 PM
hey did anyone notice that at 1st glance,the 1st pic of nagato looked liked oro ?o_o
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 20, 2009, 07:21:04 PM

LMAO... I am sure that pain's current condition is a direct result of his abilities... you know the cliche great power comes with great risk... so the constant transmission and reception of massive amounts of chakra eventually drains the host.... the eventuality is his current condition...


And who cause pein to "overexert" himself.

And feel sorry for pein... He pretty much in d same boat of naruto, sasuke, gaara etc. All whose families were killed. But its a true test of character what you do about it.

Gaara chose to do wrong ... Naruto set him right
Sasuke was on d brink ... And he went over the wrong side
Naruto was a mischeif maker ... He found his way to the right side regardless of the obstacles
Pein was a quiet genius ... He choose to reek havok. (And he had 3 friends as far as we know, whose to say he didn't kill yahiko d way he kill jman, and konan still with him).

At the end of d day nothing he says could justify his actions because he is NOT d only person in that boat
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on February 20, 2009, 08:18:54 PM
^ That was quite convoluted.

Anybody else waitin to see naruto say "yeah I in dat, sign me up and gimme a badass black and red cloak" ?

So where are the other members of Akatsuki now anyway? They have most of the bijuu (correct me if I'm wrong here but they have One, Two, Three, Four as well as three other unknowns), konoha taken care of and half the members (Sasori, Deidara, Hidan, Kakuzu, Itachi) dead.

Konan occupied, Kisame on a mission from Madara maybe - what d ass the rest of them doin?

And now we have the reject squad goin and tryin to find and sort out Konan and Nagato. Hmm..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: sp3 on February 20, 2009, 08:56:37 PM
idk,still waiting on gai and his team to come in and say:DYNAMIC ENTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zetsu probably lookin at the fight for all we kno.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 20, 2009, 09:03:26 PM
yeah gai and his team are the expected upset squad... they toying with our emotions there again
and steups at the notion that naruto is teh cause of pein being in that condition, come off de puncheon nah, seriously.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 20, 2009, 09:11:14 PM
*throws up hand in frustration at the latest manga*


The ILLEST Nin are ALWAYS ALWAYS!!!!!!!! terminally ill.

Kimimaru
What's his face.....um....oh gosh...the dude from rain country i think...he wasn't ill just in love with a man 0_0 with a big sword
Itachi

*walks out dejected*

LOL AHAHHA@ Daggering
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 20, 2009, 10:26:47 PM
yeah gai and his team are the expected upset squad... they toying with our emotions there again
and steups at the notion that naruto is teh cause of pein being in that condition, come off de puncheon nah, seriously.

What u talkin bout boy, don't you know that puncheon makes d world go round  :tongue3:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 20, 2009, 11:52:30 PM
  Lets not forget  that Jiraiya assumed Nagato to be dead...  Probably Nagato suffered near mortal wounds after a big fight and somehow his body cant' heal .

   Pain admited that Jiraiya would have defeated him ' if he knew the secret' .   

If you think of it this way  :  Any hokage level ninja should be able to take down pain once you know where the real body is , it would be like killing Phantom Assasin in dota, just need to find the right one.

The problem with pein is that everyone uses up their chakra and gets their allies killed trying to wipe out the fake pein bodies.


This is why the seemingly invincible and undefeated Pein is under manners from Madara, all madara has to do is summon himself near the real body and buss throw a kunai.


Nagato does look like orochimaru..  I'm expecting Oro  to be back in the next timeskip , he's too dread a villain to toss aside so easily , and his spirit is still lingering somewhere on earth likely.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: sp3 on February 21, 2009, 11:47:26 AM
isnt oro still in kabuto?piece of him at least.
cross,u rite!!damn all these illnesses!!itachi wuz too dread to die!!!kimi is ok tho.i hate him......
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 21, 2009, 04:30:26 PM

As for madara etc.. well prolly buggering sasuke soemwhere XD

level daggerin'    *runs away*

Still tripping over this....lol!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on February 25, 2009, 07:44:34 AM
SPOILERS








http://i41.tinypic.com/2qaiivl.jpg
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on February 25, 2009, 08:34:59 AM
oh no you did not....

A word of advice. do not click link above. really. not till. friday.


EDIT:

WARNING: THE LINK ABOVE HAS BEEN DEEMED DANGEROUS TO YOUR HEATLH.

If anime fans click  this link, they may experience the following;

"WTMC!"
"WTF!!"
excessive shock, loss of bowel control, sudden urination, watering of eyes, drooling, increased heart rate, temporary loss of sanity with shouting and jumping around.


In rare cases, a decrease in productivity and severe embarrassment in front of co-workers has been reported.



-- Anime Surgeon General
Dr. Saxman
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 25, 2009, 08:39:28 AM
I know, my jaw just hit the fricken ground.

I cyar wait now, i thought it woulda be more talkin
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 25, 2009, 10:00:26 AM
WAY!
*faints*
*Get up*
*faints again*


Seriously......seriously........that is not fair
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on February 25, 2009, 10:49:06 AM
I warned you...

*edits previous post to make warning clear*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 25, 2009, 11:08:12 AM
oh no you did not....

A word of advice. do not click link above. really. not till. friday.


EDIT:

WARNING: THE LINK ABOVE HAS BEEN DEEMED DANGEROUS TO YOUR HEATLH.

If anime fans click  this link, they may experience the following;

"WTMC!"
"WTF!!"
excessive shock, loss of bowel control, sudden urination, watering of eyes, drooling, increased heart rate, temporary loss of sanity with shouting and jumping around.


In rare cases, a decrease in productivity and severe embarrassment in front of co-workers has been reported.



-- Anime Surgeon General
Dr. Saxman

Hey doc........i got a few of those symtoms is there a cure?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 25, 2009, 11:19:02 AM
that was supposed to be impressive?? steupssssssssss
*rolls eyes*

Ill expect this same amount of enthusiasm when ttspca put the dog to sleep k??
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on February 25, 2009, 11:56:46 AM
I am not impressed..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 25, 2009, 04:51:46 PM
WTF is all that stuff on top him?   Armour?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 25, 2009, 09:35:17 PM
SPOILER ALERT..... who said we weren't going to get to see some Naruubi lovin?

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2742/437s.th.jpg) (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=437s.jpg)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on February 25, 2009, 10:20:19 PM
SPOILER ALERT..... who said we weren't going to get to see some Naruubi lovin?

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2742/437s.th.jpg) (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=437s.jpg)

Welcome to yesterday. Sorry, you were beaten to it. See previous page.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 25, 2009, 10:40:49 PM
^ LOL

*waits to see if W1ntry will use his Sharingan on Saxman for his treachery*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on February 26, 2009, 07:11:10 AM
WTF is all that stuff on top him?   Armour?

it's a skeleton.... of a wolf... Kyuubi's skeleton perhaps, seeing the only [...] tails left to appear?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 26, 2009, 07:36:20 AM
it's a skeleton.... of a wolf... Kyuubi's skeleton perhaps, seeing the only [...] tails left to appear?

Demon FOX actually, not a wolf.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 26, 2009, 08:09:03 AM
demon pottong demon fox demon wolf
ttspca have ting for dat, doh study it
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on February 26, 2009, 09:20:34 AM
Demon FOX actually, not a wolf.

Thanks, for some reason I suddenly could not remember what animal it was when typing that post.


Oh well, all will be fully revealed by tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 26, 2009, 11:13:46 AM
Ok i give up

what does ttspca mean
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 26, 2009, 11:55:09 AM
de people who does collec stray dog an kill dem
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 26, 2009, 07:35:42 PM
de people who does collec stray dog an kill dem
LOL

SO....


What do they have for snakes?


Snakes with..........."*a* tendencies"
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 27, 2009, 12:36:06 AM
New chp out... dang... not Hinata dread... nah... now meh boy naruto hadda suffer with sakura oil filters.... Kishi mc.... that aside... what justu do you suppose god realm pain has to suppress or stop a 6 tailed Naruubi? if Pain is already in a bad condition and seeing how much lix and power the 4 tails had against Oro... what pain really going to do against this form I mean really? I doubt even the attack he used to destroy the village would take out a 6 tails Naruubi... so what he really hope to accomplish against this? well next week till well I suppose..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on February 27, 2009, 01:19:09 AM
Until all of this is over, i'm not believing the hinata thing, well more like don't want to believe it. If this is real though, I expect Neji to get on real bad.

This is the most apeshit we've seen Naruto go far..gotta love that L word.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 27, 2009, 01:30:25 AM
Pein dead! He piss off d wrong man. I tell yuh naruto doh need nobody. And my wish come through. You know how long i waiting to see kyuubi again.

Well as for hinata she not dead, just badly injured. And i doh think pein have any power to suppress kyuubi power cause that will just be gay.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 27, 2009, 01:35:16 AM
lol @ will just be gay
sigh

i almost think the bones looking armor is narutos bones.

but the pottong is going to be mannersed
but if hinata is in fact dead, neji will go super saiyan ape shit.
i wonder what was that pretty jutsu she was trying to buss. hmm
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on February 27, 2009, 07:44:40 AM
^^ LOL
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: sp3 on February 27, 2009, 08:35:37 AM
y did hinata only use one eye?damn....for a group of great ninja's gai's team sure is takin long to reach
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 27, 2009, 08:44:16 AM
yeah the one eye thing was worrying
maybe when you lose your virginity you lose a eye??
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 27, 2009, 10:38:16 AM
^^ lose she virginity to who, kiiba and akamaru ????
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: sp3 on February 27, 2009, 10:45:27 AM
rofl,shino?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 27, 2009, 10:59:14 AM
how alyuh bussin de girl files so, oh gormmm
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 27, 2009, 11:07:25 AM
Maybe the Hyuga clan like some real races in T&T... no outside breeding *W1nTry shudders at the though*...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on February 27, 2009, 11:19:10 AM
hahahhaahahh
aye aye doh talk dem tings boy winny
man does dissapear for less, lol
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: sp3 on February 27, 2009, 05:27:18 PM
is hinata dead tho?!??
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on February 27, 2009, 06:06:32 PM
she's using both eyes just her hair is blocking all the byakugan veins.

 Pein will have some way to suppress kyubi chakra , this is the man who sealed away 6 or 7 other tailed beasts easy easy , this is nothing new to him.

Even if Kyuubi does take out pein , who's going to stop it now?  Where is yamamoto?    Theres the risk of kyuubi ripping apart whats left of Konoha , plus the damage to Naruto's body from using it.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on February 27, 2009, 06:10:10 PM
Where is yamamoto?   
Easy there boy... this is Naruto not bleach XD
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on February 27, 2009, 10:17:17 PM
Pein will have some way to suppress kyubi chakra , this is the man who sealed away 6 or 7 other tailed beasts easy easy , this is nothing new to him.

Rubbish. Pein en seal away nothing. Pein and he boys have a jutsu to extract bijuu from jinchuriki. Pein cyar seal sh!t by he self. If he can, like i said before, that is real ballz.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on February 28, 2009, 07:14:08 PM
Well he was sealing away dem men after dey all get conk out by Akatsuki. Kyuubi rearing to fight, not even close to knock out.

The only hope I'm seeing here for him is for Madara to come in and suppress kyuubi. Otherwise we really gonna see what Pain made of. Four tail by himself was the baddest tank in the series, now we dealin with six.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 02, 2009, 08:02:27 PM
The only hope I'm seeing here for him is for Madara to come in and suppress kyuubi. Otherwise we really gonna see what Pain made of. Four tail by himself was the baddest tank in the series, now we dealin with six.
Man talk truth, I can envision Madara making an appearence... however how's this for twist... Madara let's pain take a beating till he's near death then appears, suppresses the Kyubi and lets pain buy the farm as it was his plan all along. Madara isn't interested in letting some cripple bring temporary 'peace' Madara wants to rule the MF world biatches!... that's just my take... oh and Sasgay will appear too and take out danzou etc and prolly eye down Naruto and say something trying to seem all emo-less "pitiful"...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on March 02, 2009, 10:02:38 PM
^^ an sasuke better watch he tongue if he feel is the same naruto who he faced at oro's layer.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 05, 2009, 11:20:15 PM
Well as expected 6 tails is running rampant... Pain isn't able to fight it with his normal attacks so he's fleeing the village (or so it seems) to put down some big jutsu... lots of talking, some action..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on March 06, 2009, 01:28:29 AM
Bring on the chibaku tensei nah man. Come with it. "Kill" my hinata did you. Yuh dead!.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on March 06, 2009, 06:13:14 AM
oh noez... i sense a mc mc mc drag out fight!! steupsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
it was obvious he wasnt running but getting closer to his chakura source so please dont make it seem like he was running be real... anyone else find the bones dragging along while fighting a little creepy?

but yes back to the mc drag out, i sense lots of mc talking to ensue and maybe a bunch of yamato and the village in the next chaps to drag this ish out noooooooooo
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on March 06, 2009, 08:06:36 AM
god pein is close enough to nagato now to execute the 'big jutsu'


Yuh gotta love how God Pein get that counter...  :awesome:

6-tail Narrubi: *rushes in*
God Pein: "Shinra Tensei!"
6-tail Naruubi: "steups!.... *infinity counter!*
God Pein: *is thrown by his own attack effectively* "WTF?!?"
6-tail Naruubi:  *charges chakra*
God Pein: "Bansho Tenin" *big stone on Naruubi head*
6-tail Naruubi: "stupid walking corpse"."Mega Kyuubi Atomic Blast!"*fires..... 25 hits!*
God Pein: "Oh snap!".. retreats
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on March 06, 2009, 08:12:24 AM
Next chapter:

Man gets raped by fox...who was the sly one?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on March 06, 2009, 08:13:06 AM
well no it didnt actually hit him
possibly the most poweful attack we have seen in naruto *since shinra tensai destroyed konoha* was partially diverted by the awesome force of big stone pon head.
Cause lawl, if narutos biggest attack can only YET AGAIN "scratch forehead protector" of his enemy.. then wy exactly are you fan boys so inlove with the silly puppy?

chibaku tensei probably translates into*bad puppy,smack on nose*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 06, 2009, 12:55:37 PM
Actually Naurto's most powerful attack is now the Wind Shiruken... his most poweful attack overall is what he unleashed on Oro with 4 tails and what he almost unleashed on Pain with 6... let's face it nothing should of Susano can block that kind of attack. The 6 tails still had to consumed compress and then release the chakra for it to be most powerful and Pain's attack with big stone didn't allow that. So basically what we saw was just the chakra expanding... imagine if he really got to use it? he'd have destroyed half of the entire fire contry with that level attack... silly Crixx, lihixx is Naruubi
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on March 06, 2009, 12:57:11 PM
so hinata not dead...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on March 06, 2009, 01:35:44 PM
^^ Nope. But i don't even know what can possibly be done to suppress kyuubi chakra this time around. Personally i want to see him run all over pein
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 06, 2009, 01:50:38 PM
^^ Nope. But i don't even know what can possibly be done to suppress kyuubi chakra this time around
Funny you should mention that... the person who can... you have him in your sig...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: sp3 on March 06, 2009, 02:16:08 PM
wtf is yamato goin to do?!?no necklace!!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on March 06, 2009, 04:17:48 PM
^^ Nope. But i don't even know what can possibly be done to suppress kyuubi chakra this time around
Funny you should mention that... the person who can... you have him in your sig...

Yuh know i didn't think big bad pein would need someone to come skipping in to save his life. You really think madara or sasuke goh pass through to surpress kyuubi? As usual only time will tell
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 06, 2009, 04:21:38 PM
Yuh know i didn't think big bad pein would need someone to come skipping in to save his life. You really think madara or sasuke goh pass through to surpress kyuubi? As usual only time will tell
Well why else is Madara around for? His health?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on March 06, 2009, 05:05:59 PM
Yuh know i didn't think big bad pein would need someone to come skipping in to save his life. You really think madara or sasuke goh pass through to surpress kyuubi? As usual only time will tell
Well why else is Madara around for? His health?

Nope! To string along the rest of the ants like puppets!!! mwahhahaha. I mean he is the ultimate ninja. If big bad pein needs help, then (if he is anything like oro) why bother saving him. Let him die, and just swing by and capture kyuubi himself

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 08, 2009, 08:36:08 PM
Nope! To string along the rest of the ants like puppets!!! mwahhahaha. I mean he is the ultimate ninja. If big bad pein needs help, then (if he is anything like oro) why bother saving him. Let him die, and just swing by and capture kyuubi himself

Exactly, but after pain is defeated. Why wait for Konoha to rebuild itself? hit em when they're down. Cake run.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on March 08, 2009, 09:05:19 PM
Did someone say CAKE?



*backs out of thread and closes the door...*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: EmpireKing on March 08, 2009, 09:56:27 PM
.....who say itach....wait sorry wrong thread....

hinata still alive....??? lovely
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on March 08, 2009, 10:52:46 PM
like we forgetting about Root?   That danzo guy is supposed to be on the 3rd hokage's level , he'll make a move for power once the dust settles  .  Tsunadae is going to die or be retired somehow.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on March 08, 2009, 11:11:06 PM
civil war would be nice
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on March 09, 2009, 10:36:06 AM
like we forgetting about Root?   That danzo guy is supposed to be on the 3rd hokage's level , he'll make a move for power once the dust settles  .  Tsunadae is going to die or be retired somehow.

Wait wut.
Who say he on the Third level? D man kill goggles frog and suddenly he is ah boss?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 09, 2009, 12:54:05 PM
Wait wut.
Who say he on the Third level? D man kill goggles frog and suddenly he is ah boss?
No but it was a decision between the 3rd and Danzo... so we suspect the man had some skills.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on March 09, 2009, 01:18:58 PM
*Edit W1n you cut me off there boy, this was directed at exar

^^ Exactly, all i could remember that they were saying was that danzo wanted to be hokage, nothing about him being as strong as the 3rd hokage.

And civil war in konoha, at this stage, the hidden leaf village will be totally destroyed leaving the fire country vulnerable for attacks from other countries as well.
Wouldn't exactly be the smartest course of action for the betterment of the village would it?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on March 11, 2009, 10:54:19 AM
So Naruto goes 8 Tails and daddy shows up in his mind to calm him down...

http://s5.tinypic.com/sc4010.jpg
http://s5.tinypic.com/29ikig.jpg
http://s5.tinypic.com/bfkkma.jpg
http://s5.tinypic.com/2072q0o.jpg
http://s5.tinypic.com/2ci9ooi.jpg

Quote
Kyuubi: You!!!

Naruto: Yondaime...Hokage...

Yondaime: I made the seal such that when it's on the brink of being released I would appear in your mind. Though I don't want this to happen, because I don't want to see you again...Kyuubi, but I'm glad to see my grown up son...so things even out.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on March 11, 2009, 11:57:20 AM
So Naruto goes 8 Tails and daddy shows up in his mind to calm him down...

http://s5.tinypic.com/sc4010.jpg
http://s5.tinypic.com/29ikig.jpg
http://s5.tinypic.com/bfkkma.jpg
http://s5.tinypic.com/2072q0o.jpg
http://s5.tinypic.com/2ci9ooi.jpg

Quote
Kyuubi: You!!!

Naruto: Yondaime...Hokage...

Yondaime: I made the seal such that when it's on the brink of being released I would appear in your mind. Though I don't want this to happen, because I don't want to see you again...Kyuubi, but I'm glad to see my grown up son...so things even out.

Won't you mind starting with a little ***SPOILER*** next time, thanks
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on March 11, 2009, 12:04:44 PM
steups @ more deus ex... but must say.. 4th looks mighty handsome in that shot
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 11, 2009, 09:32:32 PM
Hmm so looks like Naruubi going more tails... and also looks like Pain sent out some kinda black ball... hmm vortex anyone... I guess we'll have to wait till at least 2-3 more chps before we see pain get his @$$ totally handed to him
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: sp3 on March 11, 2009, 11:02:59 PM
um yea that'd wud help alot
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on March 12, 2009, 11:13:33 AM
I will wait until tomorrow
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on March 13, 2009, 02:10:14 AM
I dunno bout all yuh, but it seem to me like pein was ready to sh!t he pants when he see 8 tails break through he ultimate jutsu. I know i was excited to read this chapter boy, but yondaime hoss, Next week cyar come soon enough
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on March 13, 2009, 08:41:46 AM
yea.. it was your imagination alright

as far as i see, naruto is the only one sitting in a dark pool of what looks like his own sh%t

but as predicted, its gonna be slowed down, dragged out a bit.. *sigh*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: sp3 on March 13, 2009, 08:47:57 AM
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YONDAIME!!!!8 FREAKING TAILZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WTF????????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: sp3 on March 13, 2009, 08:48:40 AM
BTW,LV UP MAI CARD :p:p:p:p:
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on March 13, 2009, 09:13:30 AM
*Naruto reaches for seal..*

*SLAP!*

"No touchie!! I'm your daddy!"
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 13, 2009, 12:43:58 PM
The question now is how wil Yondaime help naruto bring the kyubi under control. Anyone notice something about the junchurikis? so far the ones we've seen (gaara, 2 tails, 8 tails, Naruto) with the exception of Naruto (who is the youngest save gaara) they can all undergo FULL transformation without suffering damage to their own bodies and also can control the tailed beasts powers ALOT better. I rule it out to experience.... but also keep in mind it has to do with the techniques used to seal away the beasts. So far 8 tails is the boss hands down, but considering that Pain seemed to be surprised at the 8 tails being able to break out of his jutsu... and considering they've defeated almost all the others (1-7) it would suggest that the 9 tails far surpasses everything they've encountered so far... so when naruto can really control it properly... it will truly be something to behold.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Redfish on March 15, 2009, 08:41:09 PM
Anyone noticed how his father's cloak looks quite the same to the one he wears now after learning sage techniques.

Can't wait to see the pottong as crixx calls him lol grow up to one pissed off pitbull....

It shall be Epic!!!

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Redlum08 on March 19, 2009, 11:51:15 AM
Shucks...I guess we have to wait till the next chapter to see a fight...oh well...what's another week of nail biting? >:(
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on March 19, 2009, 02:32:35 PM
sigh......now he's going to have a new rejuvenation and fight with more purpose.......










NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO doggy ownage like Crix suggested
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on March 19, 2009, 02:51:43 PM
i would like to know why his life wasnt ended the moment he lifted a finger against the 4th..sigh blaspheme.

But as i suggested, talk talk talk talk
hes going to come down and give pein some bs will of fire, make your own destiny, hard work is greater than all nonsense speach. le yawn.

And the doggy was put away but i dont like this trend of shit just appearing in his fricking consciousness like wtf, that thing that itachi gave him is going to pop up and annoy me, i know it!
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on March 19, 2009, 02:59:55 PM
*stifles the urge to say Itachi gave Naruto a vd*

But you're right about this
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hes going to come down and give pein some bs will of fire, make your own destiny, hard work is greater than all nonsense speach.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on March 19, 2009, 03:04:56 PM
*stifles the urge to say Orochimaru gave Sasuke a vd*

Fixed
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 19, 2009, 03:09:46 PM
LMAO @ all this Naruto vd nonsense... I want to see what Naruto really going to do against pain... he is already in senin mode with the last of the clone gone... the frogs are all gone... pain was contemplating a BIGGER Chibaku Tensei... which means he has tonnes more power... I mean really.. what is Naruto going to do? I suspect finding the real body is part of the plot... or naruto will do what he does best... OUTLAST his enemy...I mean pain is a gosu nin to have him taken out without a SPECTACULAR move by naruto (and we've seen ALL his moves already) would be a disappointment... I wonder what will happen indeed...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Wa_DoDem on March 19, 2009, 03:27:24 PM
whats senin mode?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on March 19, 2009, 03:29:38 PM
he will try his emo talking to death routine
make real pein cry about being abused as a child
and a whole lot of make your own destiny dotishness
if he pull out some justsu that the 4th happen to have left in his subconcious
i seriously done watching this.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on March 19, 2009, 03:36:36 PM
^^ LOL AHAHA Crix


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make real pein cry about being abused as a child

*still wiping away tears*

Sounds like a Samurai X kinda beat down going to past.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on March 19, 2009, 04:23:08 PM
2 main things i gained from this chapter except to bowing in awesomeness of yondaime

1 - The fact that the 4th said he sealed HALF of kyuubi's chakra within naruto (Yes HALF). Makes you wonder what the hell he was facing huh?

2 - The fact that he said he couldn't defeat madara. Really just how strong is that guy.

As such we could draw the conclusion that the 4th had a repeat incident against madara the same way shodai did. Having to face both madara and kyuubi at the same time. Even though he died at the end, it was still his choice to use that forbidden jutsu, so i won't say he was defeated by madara directly.

To be continued...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on March 19, 2009, 06:24:56 PM
whats senin mode?

I think W1nny really meant "sage" mode...

LOL @ Naruto punching 4th in stomach
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on March 19, 2009, 08:20:13 PM
  I think the whole 'fox' is sealed within naruto but half is left to mix with his own chakra , we'd have to check back several chapters...  could be just something lost in translation
 
Else the whole  kyuubi was too much for any human to handle and half might still be lying around somewhere... Room for  a naruto sequal perhaps ? Starring Naruto's son?

 I think Yondaime should have been able to handle Madara , the sealing jutsu ought to take out any ninja or demon no matter how strong they are . 

Madara probably sent the fox to avoid a direct confrontation , knowing Yondaime would sacrifice himself to eliminate him .





Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on March 19, 2009, 09:14:56 PM
well if he did send in the fox alone and let yondaime alt qq himself
then why didnt he proceed to conquer/destroy the village with its hero gone?

i think the 4th genuinely beat madara back, hes a star no doubting it, but maybe madara didnt want outright victory, so the loss of kyubi was a hindrance to his plan so decided to start it all over again.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on March 20, 2009, 11:18:15 PM
Umm, we've known for a long time that's it's only the yang half of kyuubi's chakra that got sealed. The ying is presumably inside the Reaper along with Minato himself.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on March 21, 2009, 02:29:52 AM
Umm, we've known for a long time that's it's only the yang half of kyuubi's chakra that got sealed. The ying is presumably inside the Reaper along with Minato himself.

I guess you've known for quite a long time it somehow flew past me ???
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on March 21, 2009, 03:06:22 PM
Its in the manga chapter before Jiraiya fights pain,  HALF the kyuubi chakra is that powerful? Damn.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on March 21, 2009, 03:37:48 PM
 
 I think Yondaime should have been able to handle Madara , the sealing jutsu ought to take out any ninja or demon no matter how strong they are . 

Madara probably sent the fox to avoid a direct confrontation , knowing Yondaime would sacrifice himself to eliminate him .


http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/440/10/ (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/440/10/)

The third slide
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: sp3 on March 29, 2009, 06:12:52 PM
lol,naruto said he cant do anything,he's stupid
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on March 30, 2009, 07:38:21 PM
lol,naruto said he cant do anything,he's stupid

Well.. he's never been referred to as a genius... though he is the son of one..
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Wa_DoDem on April 03, 2009, 02:32:09 PM
now that pain got his ass kicked whose next?

a friend of mine thinks it's going to be Jiraiya come back to life the way pain was.

Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on April 03, 2009, 05:37:57 PM
now that pain got his ass kicked whose next?

a friend of mine thinks it's going to be Jiraiya come back to life the way pain was.



Scary thought, but why the heck NOT?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on April 04, 2009, 11:16:48 AM
Would make sense for  Pein to have used Jiraiya's body for  as another puppet.

The time skip is supposed to occur soon ,  i don't think we'll see any more big fights just plot  and character development . 
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Wa_DoDem on April 04, 2009, 11:18:17 AM
Would make sense for  Pein to have used Jiraiya's body for  as another puppet.

The time skip is supposed to occur soon ,  i don't think we'll see any more big fights just plot  and character development . 


that time skip?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: AR!Ø on April 17, 2009, 08:11:13 PM
Threads are pretty dead lately...everybody watchin the summit now awat?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on April 17, 2009, 10:47:40 PM
Nah boy, all d action done and is just so much talkin now, if i had to post sumtin it woulda be b!tchin about all d talkin that goin on
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on June 05, 2009, 08:24:24 AM
........so anybody else half expected this recent development but still excited about it?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on June 05, 2009, 08:24:39 AM
well after weeks of silence because of general uber gayness in the manga... we finnaly have an interesting plot point.

I was gonna give up on this manga with the level of gayness i expected after that hand holding session between naruto an pein. they started the tree hugging and general ass patting and then cut away to this interesting plot point.

I wanted sasuke to just show up an pwnzor the village.. but a civil war would be much funner at the moment.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: ProtoJoe on June 05, 2009, 10:27:32 AM
something tells me he aint gonna be 6th hokage for very long....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on June 05, 2009, 10:54:18 AM
I was gonna give up on this manga with the level of gayness i expected after that hand holding session between naruto an pein. they started the tree hugging and general ass patting and then cut away to this interesting plot point.



Guess with that in mind Oro should be making an appearance soon




*sorry Crix I couldn't help it*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on June 05, 2009, 01:53:52 PM
something tells me he aint gonna be 6th hokage for very long....
Let's hope not... what I want to know though... since the slugs were relaying everything that was going on with Naruto... and Naruto had the long talk with Pain about why he became the way he did... and seeing as Pain told him about the betrayal by DANZOU and the KAge Hanzou... should EVERYONE now know that Danzou was a bastard that tried to doublecross the 'to-be' 3rd by gaining support of the hidden rain?

LMAO @ crixx comments...

Study though... If Oro came out of Sasuke shoulder during the fight with Itachi... what 'other' parts of sasuke's anatomy was Oro hiding in... O_o...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on June 06, 2009, 06:25:35 AM
I can't help but think of a connection between danzou and madara.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Cross on June 07, 2009, 01:50:40 PM
Study though... If Oro came out of Sasuke shoulder during the fight with Itachi... what 'other' parts of sasuke's anatomy was Oro hiding in... O_o...

AHAHAA *dies*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on June 07, 2009, 03:56:49 PM
Study though... If Oro came out of Sasuke shoulder during the fight with Itachi... what 'other' parts of sasuke's anatomy was Oro hiding in... O_o...

AHAHAA *dies*

I do believe that oro that resides in sasuke is completely dead (hence the disappearance of the cursed seal etc). But i remember a kabu-romaru in one of the chapters. What ever became of that ??? At least that cling to hope that the naruverse ultimate villain oro is still running around molesting little boys somewhere in kabutos body.

How about the Danzo = Madara thing thats the new discussion on popular forum sites. Any insights or opinions?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on June 27, 2009, 09:19:31 AM
Sasuke is an idiot.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on June 27, 2009, 11:30:28 AM
Sasuke is an idiot.

I can't believe it took 453 chapters for someone to say it
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: disciple on June 27, 2009, 12:16:13 PM
Sasuke is an idiot.

*phew*

i thought is just me alone fine he is a dik....
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on June 27, 2009, 01:15:31 PM
Absolutely nothing redeeming after this chapter.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on June 27, 2009, 02:01:01 PM
Though it was a fabulous chapter to see naruto's mental maturity, like last week when we got to see his physical maturity. See how without hesitation he pulled out sai's sword and got on the move. Damn boy, finally, some skills.

And how good was it to see gaara again. Boy the anime and manga have me going wild these days
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Netizen1 on June 27, 2009, 04:41:27 PM
anime? what anime?

sorry, but since dattebayo dropped shippuuden, I stopped watchin it. Now I mostly rely on ppl telling me what's happening in the manga
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on June 28, 2009, 03:28:34 AM
anime? what anime?

sorry, but since dattebayo dropped shippuuden, I stopped watchin it. Now I mostly rely on ppl telling me what's happening in the manga

Dread horrible-subs does rip crunchy roll every thursday and taka does fansub a couple days later

horriblesubs.org for d torrent
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on July 08, 2009, 01:07:33 PM
This is a Things that make you go WDMC kinda post... but since not everyone follows the manga or anime it would be inappropriate. Either way SPOILER!!!

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9104/wwwdotuporg216634.th.jpg) (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/wwwdotuporg216634.jpg/)

so... about those Danzou==Madara theories...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on July 08, 2009, 01:14:55 PM
yeah the danzo = madara theories are like hmmzzz right now
same eye too i think.

but is there any reason madara wouldnt have both eyes?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on July 08, 2009, 03:09:08 PM
To me that still doh mean danzo = madara. It just mean that danzo is possibly an uchiha, and now we should be thinking why he wanted the uchiha clan destroyed (if the reason madara gave was true/false)
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on July 08, 2009, 03:34:13 PM
No, they betrayed him, they did NOT support him as the Hokage, they instead appointed the 1st Hokage. So Madara held a grudge against his own ppl, at least until all of them were gone, till he was the last and could re-make the clan and village as he sees fit. Madara being Danzou would fit imho. Think of Palpatine, manipulate both sides until there is a clear winner then emerge as the ruler regardless.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on July 08, 2009, 03:45:56 PM
but why would madara have only one sharingan?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on July 08, 2009, 03:48:15 PM
Maybe he lost the other eye in the fight with the 1st Hokage? most reasonable explanation imho, or he just faking (just as plausible an explanation).
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Netizen1 on July 09, 2009, 09:07:41 AM
Maybe Kakashi has it?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on July 09, 2009, 01:30:52 PM
Maybe Kakashi has it?
*Slaps Net with a rotting fish for the Obito==Danzou==Madara theory*
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on July 09, 2009, 01:49:06 PM
aight you narutards don't jizz yo pants already :P

tmr we gonna see :D
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on July 09, 2009, 02:10:29 PM
Maybe Kakashi has it?
*Slaps Net with a rotting fish for the Obito==Danzou==Madara theory*

ahahah yeah that one is a little uh....

lol @ madara= 10-12 year old noob obito=tobi=madara=danzo
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Saxito Pau on July 10, 2009, 08:59:10 AM
Thoughts:

Danzo looks had he that sharigan a while now.. I guess that he harvested Obito's other eye covertly. either that or..

Probably also obtained the eye in a bargain with Madara a long time ago as well. Madara hacked out some other Uchiha's eye to give Danzou in return for some favour.

Of course, the next obvious question is:
How well can Danzo use his sharingan?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on July 10, 2009, 09:24:56 AM
Or y'know, Danzo might actually be Madara.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Redlum08 on July 10, 2009, 09:41:53 AM
Danzo could be Madara's BROTHER...O_o
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on July 10, 2009, 12:34:04 PM
madara took both his eyes
and i think you know.. the whole ripping eyes out your head... might kill you...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on July 10, 2009, 01:51:26 PM
Thoughts:

Danzo looks had he that sharigan a while now.. I guess that he harvested Obito's other eye covertly. either that or..

Probably also obtained the eye in a bargain with Madara a long time ago as well. Madara hacked out some other Uchiha's eye to give Danzou in return for some favour.

Of course, the next obvious question is:
How well can Danzo use his sharingan?

Finally someone who thinks. This is the first series of statement pertaining to this topic that might actually make sense. If danzo == madara in any way shape or form, he probably suffers from an unusual split personality and must be a master of bushin since he could be busy following sasuke and had to hear about danzo becoming hokage from zetsu.

I figured either danzo really harvested that sharingan from obito right side or it was probably given to him by madara in exchange for having itachi destroy the uchiha clan or some other reason. Or you know he is pretty resourceful so he could have gotten it himself or linked up with orochimaru, i don't know too much possibilities.

Tobi = Madara, i mean how many times must they say it in the manga. And Madara = Madara, not danzo or obito but just madara.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/02/ (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/02/)
So then people must be saying danzo was once the mizukage. I mean how likely is that. Seriously. Because he couldn't make hokage he became mizukage. That is treason, even he isn't that stupid.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on July 10, 2009, 02:32:19 PM
Theres obviously a bigger plot still to be revealed , but i'd say Danzo is most likely an average guy lusting for power , after the uchiha massacre there must have been dozens of sharingan eyes lying around easy to harvest...
   
 Likely the 3rd hokage would have ordered that all uchiha bodies be cremated to prevent theft of their sharingan after, and danzo's root anbu covertly harvested an eye for him..

He probably lost his eye in some battle ages or ago hence the reason for the bandage.

I think a good plot twist would be ' Sasuke , this eye is from your dead father and its power matches yours!'


What i'm still waiting to see is a Byakugan Versus Sharingan fight  , Sasuke would obviously own neji but it will still be interesting to see.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Exar_Kun on July 10, 2009, 04:31:12 PM
Finally someone who thinks. This is the first series of statement pertaining to this topic that might actually make sense. If danzo == madara in any way shape or form, he probably suffers from an unusual split personality and must be a master of bushin since he could be busy following sasuke and had to hear about danzo becoming hokage from zetsu.

You're the one not thinking. Someone who fooled most of Akatsuki for half the series couldn't have played off not knowing who the hokage was? Did it never occur to you that the entire point of that was to have Sasuke hear who the hokage was? I think Madara could have spoken to Zetsu in private if he wanted to.
Let's get real here.

Your comments on the mizukage don't even make sense. Kisame said he was mizukage, plain and simple. I think Kisame can be counted on to know who the kages of his village are. And your treason thing isn't making sense. Are you saying that he wouldn't have become mizu because that would be treason against Konoha? Madara is worried about committing treason against Konoha? Seriously?
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on July 10, 2009, 05:38:10 PM
Not Madara, danzo. Stop using them interchangeably. So sandaime wouldn't know the man who was challenging him for the title of third all those years ago was madara. Even though he was named third by the men who faced him (first and second so you saying they wouldn't recognize that danzo is madara). Or none of the village elders would be aware that danzo was madara.

Also Your comments assume danzo == madara until proven otherwise, where as my own shows danzo != madara until proven otherwise. You are making an assumption about danzo = madara where as i am stating why danzo is not madara.

And did you even read what i said about him being mizukage. I am asking a simple question. Because he couldn't make it as hokage (DANZO not MADARA) did he run off and become mizukage. I still see them as two separate people and none of your arguments in any way proves danzo to be madara. It just attempts to refute my arguments by assuming danzo is already known to be madara which is still just speculation like tobi = obito.

Come on exar, we in dis long time. Bring forth an argument that proves danzo to be madara.

Here let me get you started. When madara revealed himself to sasuke, he only showed him the sharingan half of his face. So we didn't get to see his mouth or anything

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/03/ (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/03/)

So we still don't know what the rest of madara's face looks like or why he only uses one eye, his right one. Very similar to danzo even his hair.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: rb on August 03, 2009, 11:33:18 PM
Thread been pretty dead. Been catching up on my manga and .....



LOL @ SAI OWNING SAKURA

I've waited an entire series for this.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on August 03, 2009, 11:55:26 PM
bout damn time someone does it, that aside, why Naruto lusting on sakura this long and he have Hinata professing love for him and laying she life on de line...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Nephilim on August 04, 2009, 07:49:51 AM
why get one when you could get 2 winny :D
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on August 04, 2009, 08:18:19 AM
why get one when you could get 2 winny :D
Whilst that may be true, man eh even seeing the 2 XD, he have on blinkers
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on August 07, 2009, 01:52:12 AM
Finally, ha haha haha ha!!!

DANZO NOT EQUAL MADARA/TOBI!!!

If chapter 459 en prove it to you, then i en bothering to ever hold a discussion with you again. And no chapter next week boy after that cliffhanger. I mean, who in dey right mind go jump in to a meeting with 5 freakin kages, each of them with the 2 most trusted shinobi. You hah to be mad.

Bess chapter. KILL SASUKE. HAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Synchronomyst on August 07, 2009, 09:01:45 AM
Yeah but everyone's theory was wrong so...
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on August 07, 2009, 09:16:05 AM
I suppose it IS a dread theory now, however on the grounds that it were still possible, keep in mind its MADARA we're talking about. Man still alive, can teleport, faking another's chakra shouldn't be THAT hard for him to do.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: Crixx_Creww on August 07, 2009, 09:31:55 AM
yeah everyone's theory was wrong, we were royally f**** with, iam sure kishi enjoyed that.

And this going to be a nice departure from all the long talk, that is a real bachanal scene dere.
it looked like plant guy only sent his white half in though, so i guess even if they kill it he can recreate it or something.

Steups @ sakura over emoness.

But iam not sure iam liking this hacking of body parts all super willynilly

i mean itachi was supposed to have killed shushui.
And the uchiha police should have disposed of his body all secretey like.

And that hyuga eye ninjaness, again, the body they gave them was supposed to be all de eyefied and stuffies :(

i want one ah each!! since they flikkin handin dem out!!
an ah go take ah rinningan in meh forehead while ah at it
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: W1nTry on August 07, 2009, 11:03:08 AM
I think you're a little off on the idea of the hyuga eye, he said it was a souvenier from a fight, which in all likeliness means he defeated an Hyuga and was able to salvage 1 eye from the remains. As for Danzoi's eye... seeing as just before zetzu appears hes speaking to madara... could it be that in the past Danzoi and Madara were in league with each other? and that the eye was a gift from Madara for Danzous coop? (unlikely I am sure but just a theory). Considering that Danzou is the head of root, its not beyond imagination that he could have retrieved it.

I believe that zetzu has appeared speaking about sasuke to cement the notion that sasuke is an international criminal and that thus make it easier for him to maintain control over him. After all we've already seen that sasuke wants to leave on his own scene, but with all the great ninja villages against him, it would be easier for madara to convince sasuke that he NEEDs the support of akatsuki.
Title: Re: THE GENERAL ALL-PURPOSE NARUTO THREAD
Post by: UltimateGamer on August 07, 2009, 11:25:32 AM
I think you're a little off on the idea of the hyuga eye, he said it was a souvenier from a fight, which in all likeliness means he defeated an Hyuga and was able to salvage 1 eye from the remains. As for Danzoi's eye... seeing as just before zetzu appears hes speaking to madara... could it be that in the past Danzoi and Madara were in league with each other? and that the eye was a gift from Madara for Danzous coop? (unlikely I am sure but just a theory). Considering that Danzou is the head of root, its not beyond imagination that he could have retrieved it.