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American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« on: September 21, 2007, 01:11:55 AM »
http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/126010/Student_Tasered_During_Kerry_s_Speech.html

good job america!!!

your teh best!!
get those damn question askin bastards!!

wheres grim reaper now?

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American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« on: September 21, 2007, 01:11:55 AM »

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2007, 01:33:05 AM »
Heck if I know....or care.

Anyhoo, moving on...I heard about this a while back.
From what I heard, he was being disruptive, and when campus police told him to leave, he refused, and they ended up tasering him.

I won't blame them at all if he was being a d**k at the Q and A (even though I think tasering him might have been a tad much), but, I won't really draw any conclusions until I see the whole video for myself.

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2007, 01:41:43 AM »
watch the video

yu will see that its diff from what yu heard

he literally started asking a question
and then police swarmed him
an hes like wtf? i cant ask a question?

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2007, 02:52:27 AM »
........................

I'm truly speechless.....So um, wtf was he arrested for again?  Keep in mind that he's WHITE!!!
Far less if he was another race.

Is this how America treats its citizens who dare to be critical thinkers and ask the hard questions?
The most unbelievable part of that whole debacle is that John Kerry kept 'moving right along',
while the poor guy is actually screaming for help.  Why didn't he intervene and ask the officers
to 'hold dey hand'?

Uh, why was he arrested again?.....

Land of the free, eh?  What a joke.
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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2007, 06:58:43 AM »
"USA USA USA" my [insert favourite expletive]!!!

nah.. I doh freaking believe what i just saw!!

They've already subdued the guy, and the zap him anyway??

John Kerry just lost ALL points with me for not doing anything....

I hope the student sues the police for that ish

Like Arc says, land of the free? Where exactly?

I quoting a comment form that page:

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Normally I'd be behind you guys all the way with this one. But there are a few facts that weren't mentioned in this video. First of all he had been causing problems before this (Problems = simple obnoxiousness) and had been warned before he had a chance to ask his questions. That's why the lady was ready for him when he started his rant. Secondly, he was bigger than every cop there (not his fault) and was asked to simply leave and let Kerry answer his question. Once he refused to sit down, after asking several questions, they began to forcibly remove him. You can see in the video that his handcuffs were not on. They were only able to get one hand in the cuffs so he was definatly fighting back. it was then that they tazered him after several warnings.

This is my home town and as much as I hate to say it (because i just hate cops) the police around here are not that bad. I've never heard of any other police brutality accounts in all my years here. If the guy would've asked his question and let the crowd think about his meanings than he wouldn't have had this problem. And the bigger issue about him being warned was that he knew exactly what he was doing. He went into this headlong. Good luck to him, but theres a better way of getting across a message.

Still no excuse for that going overboard.... and his height definitely didn't help him here.

Where IS Grim Reaper?? He should be out there culling 4/5ths of america for their nonsense.
God is dead.

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2007, 06:58:43 AM »

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2007, 08:41:18 AM »
Oh, him? He's gone. For good, this time.




John Kerry just lost ALL points with me for not doing anything....

I hope the student sues the police for that ish


I hope so, too.

I really don't like it when public speakers just stand there and keep talking when things like this happen, either, but one thing you have to remember is, that these people are trained to talk and not miss a beat, even in the face of adversity.

True, it would have been admirable to see John at least say something like, "Hey....aren't you guys going a bit overboard there?", but, in that case, there really wasn't much he himself could do, except to carry on for everyone else who came to hear him out. It may not be a case of John Kerry being an outright jerk, but rather, just somebody who weighed the situation for a few seconds and decided that the best way to handle things is to just carry on and let the police work things out.

As horrid as that last sentence sounds, though, I still think the tasering was a bit on the extreme side, but, if he was fighting back, then...you never know.
We are living in an age where anything is possible.

In any case, from what Saxman said and from what I reckon, the guy was given some ample warning before things came to this. As for the video.....it sounds like they cropped out the beginning (where he was being disruptive) to make it really seem like he was being pounced on for simply asking a question.

Ah, media.....anything for a juicy story, eh?

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2007, 10:57:07 AM »
err...

anybody bother to watch the video?... the guy didnt ask a question... he "recommended a book to kerry"... then start talkin about how the book say kerry win the 2004 question...  and disenfranchisement of black voters etc... on top of that he accusin the man of crap (his words were... "i am goin to inform then ask my question" thats not how things work...)... and whats his question? if kerry was in skull n bones secret society with bush...

he is one a dem conspiracy theorists that was jus tryin to cause confusion... that was the wrong time and place for htat

he deserve everything he get...

sighs @ people thinkin the police should get sued
« Last Edit: September 21, 2007, 11:00:40 AM by phoenix31tt »

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2007, 11:34:14 AM »
Lol @ skull and bones, good choice of words for such a topic

Anyone seen a movie called Zeitgeist?

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2007, 11:56:34 AM »
Ok i wasnt going to say anything because it seemed pointless but come on man is being an @$$hole enough for the police to detain and taser you I mean Come ON man. WTF and Kerry just goes on in the background BLAH BLAH BLAH . And you can find nothing wrong with that DUDE what kind of DUMB are you because it's definitely not the normal type.

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2007, 11:59:07 AM »
Who is Phoenix? Is it possibly Grim in disguise??  :lol: LOL


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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2007, 12:51:15 PM »
no he didnt get tasered or arrested for being an a$$hole... he got tasered and arresting for not complying with police requests...

which is as far as i remember... is umm.. legal...

he was more or less beginning a protest in a public Q&A/speaking...

if thats the case all police would need to be sued for firing teargas etc when protests get outa hand...

it went like:
student started making conspicracy comments etc
police asked him to leave
student continued
police proceeded to escort him out
student got roudy
police arrested/tasered

allyuh seein it like:
student asked a legitimate question
john kerry "couldnt/didnt want to asnwer"
police tasered and arrested...

under all that? what allyuh sayin john kerry shoulda do?... nobody is above the law... he doesnt have authority to interfere in police business... he did what any politician woulda do... last i recall he is a politician rite?

p.s. i'm not grim
« Last Edit: September 21, 2007, 12:52:57 PM by phoenix31tt »

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2007, 02:37:53 PM »
ok

what part exactly, was he protesting??
protesting is NOT ILLEGAL!!!
but when yu get violent then that is illegal.

once again, the guy started asking questions and making statements.
none of which are illegal or roudy

he started off by saying, mr kerry you reccomended a book to us, i would like to reccomend a book to yu.

illegal? how??
then he proceeded to ask kerry why he just gave up on the election.
Illegal? how?

then the police started escorting him away.

he proceeded to ask them WHAT HE WAS BEING ARRESTED FOR!!
and not one of them answered him!
they also did not read him any mirander rights!
WHICH IS ILLEGAL!!

asking a question in ANY TONE is not illegal
speaking  IS A GUARANTEED RIGHT UNDER THE FIRST FREAKING AMMENDMENT
so they were infringing upon that right of his.

this case will probably turn into a civil rights case,since they infringed upon his ammendment rights.

they were wrong.

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2007, 03:04:02 PM »
that footage was as real as it gets....

felt sorry for the man...seriously...

There are so many other methods they could have used to handle the situation...
Also from what I heard Kerry was responding to the guy's comments....when the police intervened...

He was not saying "I can't respond to those allegations...etc...etc..."

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2007, 03:13:20 PM »
ok

what part exactly, was he protesting??
protesting is NOT ILLEGAL!!!
but when yu get violent then that is illegal.

once again, the guy started asking questions and making statements.
none of which are illegal or roudy

he started off by saying, mr kerry you reccomended a book to us, i would like to reccomend a book to yu.

illegal? how??
then he proceeded to ask kerry why he just gave up on the election.
Illegal? how?

then the police started escorting him away.

he proceeded to ask them WHAT HE WAS BEING ARRESTED FOR!!
and not one of them answered him!
they also did not read him any mirander rights!
WHICH IS ILLEGAL!!

asking a question in ANY TONE is not illegal
speaking  IS A GUARANTEED RIGHT UNDER THE FIRST FREAKING AMMENDMENT
so they were infringing upon that right of his.

this case will probably turn into a civil rights case,since they infringed upon his ammendment rights.

they were wrong.

err its weird how u skip the part where he was talking about the disenfranchised black voters... and the voting machines that were rolled back... etc etc... all before he asked an idiotic question of why the pres jus gave up (mind u the election was already set and he had no choice)... and then askin the even more idiotic question of if the presedent was in skull n bones with bush...
notice the police came up to him when he start and ask him to leave...
he said he will ask a question...
the police backed off
then when he started his crap...
they came back...
thats when he refused to comply...
thats when he was being ESCORTED (not arrested mind u... no need for readin of rights) out of the building...
and obviously he insisted that he is staying...
;)...
maybe they did act a little rash by tasering (but it/he may have gotten out of hand if they didnt)...
many people dont think of these facts...
but when the police dont act fast enuff, they does say them police stupid... if i was that police that was never gonna happen

think it over...

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2007, 03:14:22 PM »
Who is Phoenix? Is it possibly Grim in disguise??  :lol: LOL

Nah. He's cool.

Looking back, I'm more or less inclined to agree with what phoenix said, because he does raise a few good points.

After perusing through a couple of articles about the incident, the guy who got tasered was being disruptive, and, despite being told to settle down, he insisted, and, after he got rowdy, the police took it upon themselves to restrain him and then taser him after he still failed to settle down.

I know, I know....a while ago, I did say that tasering was a bit of an extreme, but if the guy was being rowdy, he probably asked for it in the first place, because he got more than enough warnings from the proper authorities to settle himself down.



And guys....I am sorry, but Phoenix is right on this one.

John Kerry couldn't have done anything in that instance, other than continue with what he was put there to do.
After all, you're not going to expect him to leap off of the stage and start flinging punches all over the place.
That'll land him in even more trouble than before.

Also, he really isn't above the law to tell the police how to do their jobs, either. Had he tried to interfere at all, he would have most likely been caught up in some stupid lawsuit or charge concerning 'interfering with police business', than if he had just let things resolve by itself.

And, if he had stopped giving his speech altogether, it means that he's practically being unprofessional about the whole thing by screwing an entire audience out of the time they're dedicating to him to hear what he has to say.


Now, if something really serious happened such as the guy pulling out a gun or dropping dead or something like that, that may be cause to stop the speech. But, as is, it's a case of somebody being very rude and disruptive, and John Kerry carrying on despite that. Many professional speakers are trained to continue saying what they have to say in spite of hecklers or disruptive individuals, or, at least, invite them to hold off on their questions until he's finished. That's what the cops were trying to do, the guy did not comply, and he was dealt with afterwards.

It really does beget the question....."What could have John Kerry done?"

Accusing John Kerry of not stepping in when police are trying to restrain a disruptive individual is like accusing the parents of a baby trapped in a burning building of being heartless bastards because they're outside watching the place burn down.

They're not doing anything because they can't.
And, chances are, if they do try something, they'll likely wind up in even more trouble when what they should do is let the firemen, who are properly equipped to handle the situation, handle it.



So, yeah....long story short, after scrutinising the situation, the student asked for his misery, and John Kerry isn't to blame for doing his job despite what was going on. This just happens to be one of those things that can be easily misunderstood if you don't have all of the facts, something which the video clearly does not show (as a matter of fact, if you took the video completely at face value, you'd automatically come to the conclusion that it was a case of somebody being victimised for his freedom of speech.)

Unfortunately, anybody who assumes so has it all wrong- it's just a case of somebody trying to be a bit too assertive and payiong the price for it.




Here are some articles on the incident. I'll point out some things in BOLD here, and you can pretty much draw your conclusions from there.

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Man Tasered at Kerry speech
By The Associated Press
Article Last Updated: 09/18/2007 02:17:55 PM MDT


University of Florida student Andrew Meyer struggles with University Police as officers try to remove him from a question and answer session with Sen. John Kerry on Monday, Sept. 17, 2007, in Gainesville, Fla. (Independent Florida Alligator | Andrew Stanfill)Gainesville, Fla. — A university student with a history of taping his own practical jokes was Tasered by campus police and arrested after loudly and repeatedly trying to ask U.S. Senator John Kerry questions during a campus forum.

Andrew Mayer, 21, spent a night in jail before his release this morning. His attorney, Robert Griscti, did not return messages seeking comment.

Videos of the Monday night incident, posted on several Web sites, show officers pulling Mayer away from the microphone after he asks Kerry about impeaching President Bush and whether he and Bush were both members of the secret society Skull and Bones at Yale University.

"He apparently asked several questions — he went on for quite awhile —
then he was asked to stop," university spokesman Steve Orlando said. "He had used his allotted time. His microphone was cut off, then he became upset."
As two officers take Meyer by the arms, Kerry, D-Mass., can be heard saying, "That's alright, let me answer his question." Audience members applaud, and Meyer struggles for several seconds as up to four officers try to remove him from the room.
Meyer screams for help and tries to break away from officers, then is forced to the ground and officers order him to stop resisting.

As Kerry tells the audience he will answer the student's "very important question," Meyer yells at the officers to release him, crying out, "Don't Tase me, bro," just before he is shocked by the Taser. He is then led from the room, screaming, "What did I do?" Meyer was arrested on charges of resisting an officer and disturbing the peace, according to Alachua County jail records, but the State Attorney's Office had yet to make the formal charging decision. Police recommended charges of resisting arrest with violence, a felony, and disturbing the peace and interfering with school administrative functions, a misdemeanor.

Orlando said university police would conduct an internal investigation.

"The police department does have a standard procedure for when they use force, including when they use a Taser," Orlando said.

"That is what the internal investigation would address — whether the proper procedures were followed, whether the officers acted appropriately." Meyer was ordered released from jail today on his own recognizance.


Meyer has his own Web site and it contains several "comedy" videos that he appears in. In one, he stands in a street with a sign that says "Harry Dies" after the latest Harry Potter book was released. In another, he acts like a drunk while trying to pick up a woman in a bar.

The site also has what is called a "disorganized diatribe" attributed to Meyer that criticizes the Iraq war, the news media for not covering the conflict enough and the American public for paying too much attention to celebrity news.


Source: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_6927671



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A university student with a history of taping his own practical jokes was Tasered by campus police and arrested after loudly and repeatedly trying to ask U.S. Senator John Kerry questions during a campus forum.

Andrew Meyer, 21, spent a night in jail before his release Tuesday morning. His attorney, Robert Griscti, did not return messages seeking comment.

Videos of the Monday night incident, posted on several Web sites and played repeatedly on television news, show officers pulling Meyer away from the microphone after he asks Kerry about impeaching President Bush and whether he and Bush were both members of the secret society Skull and Bones at Yale University


Source: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/18/student.tasered.ap/index.html


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Meyer was in line to ask a question of Kerry when it was announced by Ambassador Dennis Jett, a University of Florida political science instructor and the forum's moderator,[1] that no more questions would be taken. According to a statement later released by Senator Kerry's office (see below) Andrew Meyer was "barging to the front of the line." Meyer was then recognized by Kerry to ask a question. According to The Washington Post, Meyer's question turned into "an increasingly agitated three-parter."[2]

Meyer spoke for approximately 1.5 minutes, beginning by citing the book Armed Madhouse and its author Greg Palast's description of the 2004 U.S. presidential election and allegations of election irregularities.[2][3]

What Meyer was referring to, according to Palast, was a chapter in the book [Armed Madhouse] called “Kerry Won. Now Get Over It,” in which he says millions of votes cast in the 2004 election were discarded, not counted or prevented from being cast in the first place–a fact the author says has special relevance to the locale of Meyer’s arrest.[1]

Andrew Meyer's exchange with John Kerry was captured on several videos distributed on the web.

YouTube Video,"UF Police Taser Student During Kerry Forum"


0:00 on YouTube video

John Kerry: [Finishing the answer to the previous question]: "...to continue to pile name upon name upon some wall in the future for a strategy that has failed.

That's the distinction."

[Recognizing and pointing to Andrew Mayer]: "Sir..."


Andrew Meyer: "I first and foremost want to thank you for your time.

You spent a lot of time talking to us here today.

Thank you for coming and being open and honest. You'd recommended a book to us earlier.

I had wanted to recommend a book to you. It's called Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast.


Kerry: "I have it."


Meyer: He's a top investigative journalist in America."


Kerry: "I've already read it."


Meyer: "AND, [holding up a copy of a yellow book, "Armed Madhouse" by Greg Palast],

he says [in this book] YOU WON the 2004 ELECTION!


Kerry: "Right."


Meyer: "ISN'T THAT AMAZING! -- ISN'T THAT AMAZING, YOU WON IN 2004!

In fact, there were multiple reports on the day of the election of disenfranchising of black voters in Florida and Ohio."


Kerry: "Right."


[Police officer interrupts Meyer]


Meyer: [Turning to police officer]

"I'll ask my question. Thank you very much. I'll ask my question. I'm going to preface it.

He's been talking for two hours, I think I've got two minutes.

Thank you, Thank you very much."


Meyer: [Turns to side] "I'm going to ask him my question. I'm going to inform people then, I'm going to ask my question,

so there were multiple reports of of disenfranchising of black voters on the day of the election in 2004."


Kerry: "Right."


Meyer: "There was also voting machines, electronic voting machines in Volusia County, Florida that tallied backwards.

So, amidst all these reports of phony, bogus stuff going on, how could YOU concede the election on the day? [small applause]

How could YOU concede the 2004 election on the day?

In this book, it says there were five million votes that were suppressed and YOU WON the election. Didn't YOU want to be President?

[responding to ?]

I am not even done yet, I have two more questions."


1:21 on YouTube video


Meyer: "If you were so against [the war in] IRAN,

how come you are not saying let's IMPEACH BUSH NOW? ,

IMPEACH BUSH NOW before he can INVADE IRAN? Why won't you IMPEACH HIM? IMPEACH BUSH.

CLINTON was IMPEACHED, for what, a BLOW JOB? Why don't we IMPEACH BUSH? Alright?"


Meyer: "Also, are you a member, were you a member of Skull and Bones in college with BUSH?

Were you in the same SECRET society, as BUSH? Were you in SKULL AND BONES?"

[turns to side]


Meyer [with sarcasm or irony]: "Thank you for cutting my mike. Thank you.

Are you going to arrest ME? EXCUSE ME, excuse ME, what are you arresting ME for?"


1:45 on YouTube video

[4]
After speaking for one minute and twenty seconds, at the request of event organizers, Andrew Meyer's microphone was turned off, and two University of Florida police officers seized him.[5] Several members of the crowd began to cheer and applaud. This physical contact by the police occured 1 minute and 31 seconds after Meyer began speaking. Kerry said, "That's all right, let me answer his question."[2] The student struggled for several seconds[3] and demanded to know why he was being arrested. He shouted several times "Help!", "What have I done?", and "Get away from me!", with his arms raised in the air, visibly struggling with the officers. Two more officers joined in, and the four officers forcibly removed him to the back of the room as Meyer struggled, once even breaking free. The officers wrestled Meyer to the ground and managed to handcuff one hand.

As Meyer requested he be allowed to leave of his own accord, they informed him that he no longer had a say in the matter and threatened several times to tase him if he did not comply. Meyer requested that he be allowed to leave.[3] Meyer yelled,[2] "Don't tase me bro, don't tase me", but was drive stunned (referred to in the police report as a "contact tase") in the shoulder by officer Nicole Lynn Mallo with her department-issued X-26 Taser when he failed to comply.[6]

I managed to take control of Meyer's right hand and restrain it into one side of my handcuffs. Due to Meyer's erratic flailing, the inability to attain Meyer's left arm from his resistance, and increased potential for injury with one cuff on, Sgt. King attempted to deploy a contact tase to no avail. He then instructed Mallo to apply a contact tase to gain compliance in order to place Meyer's left hand into the other cuff. Mallo gave verbal commands and informed Meyer that he would be tased if he did not comply. Once Mallo applied the tase, Wise assisted Meyer's left arm to where I was able to apply the other cuff. Once he was restrained, he was escorted out of the Auditorium where I checked the fitting and applied the double-locked function on the cuffs.

—Police Report, Statement of Officer Pablo De Jesus, Jr. [6]
He continued screaming for help as the officers removed him from the room. During the altercation, Kerry urged everyone to calm down, joked that "Unfortunately, he [Andrew Meyer] is not available to come up here and swear me in as President" and kept speaking to Meyer's question, which he referred to as "very important". Senator Kerry later released a statement saying that he was unaware that any Tasing had occurred until afterwards.[3]

POLICE [in background]: "GET DOWN!"

Senator Kerry: "I think if everybody just..."

POLICE: "DO IT NOW!"

Senator Kerry: "calms down this situation would calm down. ... I'll answer his question.
Unfortunately, he is not available to come up here and swear me in as President.

Andrew Meyer: "Why are they arresting me? Did someone do something here? Are they arresting?"

Senator Kerry: "Let me just say. because it is a very important question.

—YouTube Video Tape starting at 2:34 [4]
Meyer was then escorted off the premises, remaining uncooperative with police during questioning.[7] He was detained overnight in the Alachua County Jail.[8] Some students protested outside the jail that evening.[9]




Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Florida_Taser_incident

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2007, 03:19:28 PM »
iam not saying kerry could have done anything

but there is no justification for the police arresting someone for TALKING!!!

TALKING!! even if yu speak in a rowdy manner, yu have4 EVER RIGHT UNDER THE CONSTITUTION TO SPEAK!


the right to such speak is so protected, that the kkk can have its rallys, that promote discrimination and even violence against other races
and the police cant do them anything unless they act violently!!
so why should this guy be arrested for asking a poignant question
when the kkk can have mass rallys. say what ever they want and the  police cant touch them!
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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2007, 03:28:30 PM »
no u cant be arrested for speaking... but u can be escorted out of a building... and arested for being disruptive... and this is what people not realising... he was not being arrested @ first... he was being escorted out...

once u realise that fact.. everything will fall into place

kkk's had mass rallies etc in there own (or other public) places...

not a organised public Q&A where a senator is involved... other factors come into play there... it is not considered a public place from there on out... so u cant do whatever u want... u cant walk in playin music to loudly... u cant bring ur tv and sitdown and watch etc.. u WILL be escourted out...
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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2007, 03:41:03 PM »
Err...Crixx?
Read the timeline of the incident from the Wikipedia article.

The guy wasn't just being talkative....he was being all out disruptive. He used up his alloted time for speaking, refused to settle down when asked, and started getting on when they took action. The guy was practically on the verge of stirring up trouble, and these days, you really, really cannot take that chance. At all.

After all, if you were giving a speech, and I insist on repeatedly bludgeoning you with questions in a loud, rude manner and not letting you finish, wouldn't you try to find some way to get me to settle down and/or leave the premises if I refuse to comply?


Oh, and on a side note.....I still think the taser was a bit much.
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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2007, 04:10:02 PM »
but wait neo

again he was being disruptive by speaking right???


how the hell is that a crime????

thats my point alllllll he did was speak!!
no matter what he spoke it was just speach

isnt the kkk spewing racist garbage in the streets in mass marches being disruptive???
btu they cant be TOUCHED by the police because their right to do so is protected by the constitution.


if iam being persistant with a question and yu wanna shut me up, yu think the best method to do so is to arrest and taze me????
instead of answering the question???
what??? where the hell are we?

omfg!!

how in the hell can there be a justification for that kind of action in america?
the "land of the free"

but ill tell you what, the police utilised their rights to bear arms, and tazered him didnt they?

yeah, that right is totally protected.

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2007, 04:24:04 PM »
kkk's had mass rallies etc in there own (or other public) places...

not a organised public Q&A where a senator is involved... other factors come into play there... it is not considered a public place from there on out... so u cant do whatever u want... u cant walk in playin music to loudly... u cant bring ur tv and sitdown and watch etc.. u WILL be escourted out...

i'll quote myself as to why he can be ESCORTED out... sighs how much time do i have to say... he was being escorted out... THATS when he didnt comply and got himself tasered/arrested

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Re: American college student tazered for asking Kerry a question
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2007, 04:24:04 PM »

 


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