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We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« on: November 30, 2008, 07:58:24 AM »
500 kills in 11 months, we may as well be playing unreal tournament...


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161407654

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Arima man 500th murder
Gang, drug-related killings major cause of increase by 153 cases
Denyse Renne drenne@trinidadexpress.com

Sunday, November 30th 2008


   

T&T's murder toll reached 500 yesterday, with the latest murder victim identified as Wilfred Fredericks.

Fredericks, 20, of Bye Pass Road, Arima, was shot dead around 1.45 a.m. yesterday, while standing on Mahabir Lane, Arima. Police say Fredericks was approached by a lone gunman who shot him several times about the body.

Fredericks managed to run a few feet away before collapsing. He died at the scene.

Homicide detectives are yet to establish a motive for the murder.

So far for the year, gang and drug-related killings have contributed significantly to the upsurge in murders, while domestic brawls, altercations, robberies and collateral killings also accounted for a large percentage of murders.

Statistics further showed, of the 500 murders committed to date, only 71 have been detected, an increase of six, when compared to last year around this period.

Sunday Express' statistics also show murders have increased by 153, compared to the same period last year.

Region Two (North, North-Eastern, Eastern divisions) accounted for the bulk of detections, which currently stand at 43.

A senior homicide detective, commenting on Region Two's detection rate, said his officers "have been working tirelessly in an attempt to bring the perpetrators to justice".

"Several of my officers are called on their days off, and because of their dedication to the job they respond," the senior officer said.

Stating detectives under the supervision of ASP Johnny Abraham, Insps Stanley Ramdeen, Ancil Corbette and including Sgt Andrew Lawrence and PCs Sunil Ramoutar,Tyrone Jack, Kevin Thomas, Suzette Martin, Josaine Sampson-Johnson and Ameer Mohammed, just to name a few, the senior officer said Region Two's successes this year include the detection of nine murders which were committed in 2007, and also several others which were committed in 2006.

"Following investigations, two charges of manslaughter and attempted murder have also been laid," the senior officer said.

Numerous media conferences held by senior officials, including Acting Commissioner of Police James Philbert, who was appointed to the post on July 5, have tried to assure the public that officers are making progress in various homicide cases.

One such instance was the October 9 killings of elderly Swedish couple Ake Olsson, 73, and his wife, Anna Sulvan, who were found with chop wounds at their Bon Accord, Tobago, home.

Homicide detectives said then they believed that robbery was the motive and were expecting to lay charges soon.

Two suspects were arrested and subsequently released and an artist's sketch was issued to the public, but so far, detectives say they are still investigating the matter.

Express statistics further showed Tobago accounting for two cases of manslaughter and five murders.

Under Philbert's tenure, 229 murders have been recorded thus far.

Thirteen inquests have been ordered by the office of the Director of Public Prosecutions, while 17 killings are yet to be classified, since investigations are ongoing.

The unclassified killings include bullet-riddled bodies and autopsies, which have been inconclusive.

Inquests, manslaughters and unclassified killings do not form part of the Sunday Express' murder toll.

For the year thus far, 47 females between the ages of two to 65 have been brutally murdered, while 12 murder/ suicides were recorded.

Five law enforcement officers, inclusive of two police officers, along with one fire, prison and soldier were also murdered this year.

Seven State witnesses were also killed a month apart-Balliram Krishna Harripersad (February 11), Terrance Haynes (March 16), Harold Joseph (April 5), Ishmael Drayton and Daniel Roberts (May 1), Anthony Ryan (June 12) and Gabriel Charles (July 28).

Murders also took a toll on taxi-drivers who were plying their trade, with 17 drivers being killed for the year.

The murder toll recorded also included 30 persons who were reported missing by their relatives.

On September 19, National Security Minister Martin Joseph announced that the Special Anti-Crime Unit of T&T have been mandated to conduct investigations into gang-related killings.

Following the announcement, 53 killings involving gang members have taken place.

So far, May has been the bloodiest month, accounting for 56 murders, while June has the second highest with 55.

February accounted for 28-the least number of murders.

Any bets on the end of year figure???
God is dead.

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We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« on: November 30, 2008, 07:58:24 AM »

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2008, 09:07:53 AM »
I'd say about 520.
December's yet to come, after all.

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2008, 09:23:49 AM »
This is sad... but hey(being sacarstic) with all the teen girls in the country(i know at least 5 from school) the amount of births make up for the deaths by far!  :shakehead:

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2008, 09:27:00 AM »
520, NEO? Nah, man. 28 was the lowest figure for the year. I'd say about 541.
What can you do to end the hunger?
It's no surprise that many will die with the coming shortage of food
When there is no grain to feed the butchered cows
When there is nothing to feed yourselves...
Then you will see that money can't be eaten.

-The Locust

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2008, 09:31:30 AM »
You know, I was aiming for a higher number, but I figured that the crooks would like to take a break from all of the bloody God-forsaken slaughter that they've been undertaking and actually enjoy the holidays. You know, sing carols, enjoy a cold glass of sorrel, crack open some other guy's wallet and buy a big ham....


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This is sad... but hey(being sacarstic) with all the teen girls in the country(i know at least 5 from school) the amount of births make up for the deaths by far!


...unless they choose to have the babies at Mt. Hope.


OOOOOOOH BURN.


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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2008, 09:31:30 AM »

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2008, 09:33:19 AM »
That's a 5 star burn there, sonny.
What can you do to end the hunger?
It's no surprise that many will die with the coming shortage of food
When there is no grain to feed the butchered cows
When there is nothing to feed yourselves...
Then you will see that money can't be eaten.

-The Locust

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2008, 12:54:22 PM »
You know, I was aiming for a higher number, but I figured that the crooks would like to take a shot at breaking the highscore in this bloody God-forsaken Deathmatch that they've been undertaking and actually enjoy the hellidays. You know, sing Movado/Kartel, enjoy a cold glass of Hard Wine, crack open some other guy's Head\Chest and buy more guns....


edited to show the criminal mind here... :violent5:
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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2008, 03:05:38 PM »
yu know

that movada/kartel comment really hit home

as much as i hate when the media is to blame for bad things happening..

Is there any good that comes out of movados "music"


hmm just did a check...
New York State (not city but state)
population of 19.8 milli
murder rate, 801

trinidad
population of 1.3~milli
murder rate, 500+
....

my god
i did another search
the borough of Manhattan (several times the size of trinidad)
has 65 murders a year.................... my god... what the hell are we doing?

When NEW YORK FREAKIN CITY IS SAFER THAN TRINIDAD!!

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2008, 05:03:30 PM »
to much lawlessness in Trinidad, wild wild west
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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2008, 06:44:50 PM »
Wait, what?@Crixx's figures.

Oh hell no.

*packs bags*
What can you do to end the hunger?
It's no surprise that many will die with the coming shortage of food
When there is no grain to feed the butchered cows
When there is nothing to feed yourselves...
Then you will see that money can't be eaten.

-The Locust

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2008, 09:54:23 PM »
yu know

that movada/kartel comment really hit home

as much as i hate when the media is to blame for bad things happening..

Is there any good that comes out of movados "music"


hmm just did a check...
New York State (not city but state)
population of 19.8 milli
murder rate, 801

trinidad
population of 1.3~milli
murder rate, 500+
....

my god
i did another search
the borough of Manhattan (several times the size of trinidad)
has 65 murders a year.................... my god... what the hell are we doing?

When NEW YORK FREAKIN CITY IS SAFER THAN TRINIDAD!!

Why you think I Live in NY now? EHH!!?? That offer still open eh Crixx, feel free to stop by when you visit NY... :P


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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2008, 12:45:05 PM »
My neighbour just pulled us aside yesterday, while we were about to drive off, to lament about the situation in Trinidad and offer his home for sale. He's leaving, for good and recommending we follow suit.

Crime being the paramount reason why.

These statistics certify his position.

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2008, 12:56:01 PM »
My neighbour just pulled us aside yesterday, while we were about to drive off, to lament about the situation in Trinidad and offer his home for sale. He's leaving, for good and recommending we follow suit.

Crime being the paramount reason why.

These statistics certify his position.

I not even there and I recommend it too! Trinidad has changed so much since I was last living there. My family is still there and I am always telling them its time to move..Things are just out of hand there, and Haiti is what I see as the future of Trinidad, with the current Gov't in place. Children are suffering and starving to death in haiti daily. People need to wake up and realize that its time for CHANGE!! Take example from Obama's win here in the US and DEMAND Change!!


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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2008, 04:18:42 PM »
I can see it now, Winston Dooks on a podium saying "YES WE CAN" XD

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2008, 04:25:50 PM »
you reccomend leaving?

awesome!! cause thats gonna soooper fix the problem!!!
yay for you and all like you!!.....

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2008, 04:42:49 PM »
you reccomend leaving?

awesome!! cause thats gonna soooper fix the problem!!!
yay for you and all like you!!.....

Well if you want to stay and try to change things, all well and good, good luck winning the elections and convincing the majority who vote for the PNM and manning for the Umpteen time that you are the Change that is needed.

They need to fix the laws and create TERM limits on Prime Ministers. I'm sorry, but the same two men running for Prime Minister every election is NOT democratic in any way, and for the general public to not take notice that a Dictatorship and NOT a democracy is in place there, then I feel sorry for the future of the country. Yes, I chose to leave, not because of the crime, I left to get an education here in the US, and over the years, as things have gotten exponentially WORSE, I decided it was time for Change, a Change of my place of residence. Change comes over time, and things have Changed there, for the worse...


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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2008, 05:29:28 PM »
you reccomend leaving?

awesome!! cause thats gonna soooper fix the problem!!!
yay for you and all like you!!.....

You've done a right good job yourself by being here. I'm proud of the initiatives you've undertaken in your patriotic and selfless quest to save the country. Oh wait, what's that? I'm sorry. Did someone say that all our possible leaders are insincere, power hungry hacks who play an uneducated mass of simpletons every election day? That these citizens are far too laid back and far to set in their own ways for them to even be receptive to education, objectivism or changing their way of thinking and that the system of governance and the influence of the private sector and special interests on the government is so fundamentally flawed that it'd take a massive shake-up of each and every service done by a truly altruistic and charismatic leader who can play to a vastly polarized country to make a difference? But that such a hypothetical leader lacks divisiveness that Trinidadians are typically responsive too and has an extremely difficult task ahead and many, many adversaries with which they'll encounter because they'll chose to stand for something? That they'll be silenced and not even given the status or martyrdom that they've so rightly earned because Trinidadian and Tobagonians are f**king ingrates?

While we're at it...to HELL with anyone who leaves the United States or and comes here because they're dissatisfied with the type of life they experience there, because that "soooper fixes" the problem AND god damn those people who decide that they want to move away from socially and economically stunted neighborhoods because they're overwhelmed with a feeling of powerlessness and wrought with fear! Why don't they grow a backbone and stay and fix their damned neighborhoods? Is that what you were trying to say? Such an intelligent and well thought out argument, Crixx.

Oh. Never mind. Because if you weren't saying that I'd think it'd be wrong of you to even DARE to condescend to someone who makes the decision in the light of all this apparent futility to attempt to make something better for themselves for the short time they have here. I would think that you would understand that and that they decisions are equally as valid as anyone else's because they don't -owe- a society that is not even trying to look after itself -anything-.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2008, 05:34:11 PM by Synchronomyst »
What can you do to end the hunger?
It's no surprise that many will die with the coming shortage of food
When there is no grain to feed the butchered cows
When there is nothing to feed yourselves...
Then you will see that money can't be eaten.

-The Locust

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2008, 06:24:39 PM »
OH SNAP.



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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2008, 07:18:42 PM »
you reccomend leaving?

awesome!! cause thats gonna soooper fix the problem!!!
yay for you and all like you!!.....

You've done a right good job yourself by being here. I'm proud of the initiatives you've undertaken in your patriotic and selfless quest to save the country. Oh wait, what's that? I'm sorry. Did someone say that all our possible leaders are insincere, power hungry hacks who play an uneducated mass of simpletons every election day? That these citizens are far too laid back and far to set in their own ways for them to even be receptive to education, objectivism or changing their way of thinking and that the system of governance and the influence of the private sector and special interests on the government is so fundamentally flawed that it'd take a massive shake-up of each and every service done by a truly altruistic and charismatic leader who can play to a vastly polarized country to make a difference? But that such a hypothetical leader lacks divisiveness that Trinidadians are typically responsive too and has an extremely difficult task ahead and many, many adversaries with which they'll encounter because they'll chose to stand for something? That they'll be silenced and not even given the status or martyrdom that they've so rightly earned because Trinidadian and Tobagonians are f**king ingrates?

While we're at it...to HELL with anyone who leaves the United States or and comes here because they're dissatisfied with the type of life they experience there, because that "soooper fixes" the problem AND god damn those people who decide that they want to move away from socially and economically stunted neighborhoods because they're overwhelmed with a feeling of powerlessness and wrought with fear! Why don't they grow a backbone and stay and fix their damned neighborhoods? Is that what you were trying to say? Such an intelligent and well thought out argument, Crixx.

Oh. Never mind. Because if you weren't saying that I'd think it'd be wrong of you to even DARE to condescend to someone who makes the decision in the light of all this apparent futility to attempt to make something better for themselves for the short time they have here. I would think that you would understand that and that they decisions are equally as valid as anyone else's because they don't -owe- a society that is not even trying to look after itself -anything-.

who is the they that is supposed to fix our problems?
THe same "they" that made america such  a "great"country?
Some enigmatic bunch that just one day decided that america wasnt good enuff and therefore they would push the, this isnt godd enough and it should be fixed button, and thus was born america the free?

No i think not. People run to more developed stable countries when things are bad in their own country, those people never consider how much effort and work had to be put into making said country great, by the very citizens that make said country.
You cant expect someone else to come in and fix your country for you.
What happens when things start going bad in america and things are going good in another country, or say Trinidad gets fixed?
You run back to Trinidad?? at that point you dont DESERVE to be in either country.

Patriotism and Nationalism are lost on the vast majority of our population.
Encouraging people to run away from the ills of our country is not and can not be the solution.

I dont see Obama being the new prez as such a giant deal as say an american might, because ive grown up in a country that was liberated from colonial rule by black leaders. I remember Mandela's struggle well, to be fair to most Americans, they dont know Mandela's struggle at all, they know not of Dr Eric Williams , so its not a case of them forgetting.

Now, again, you dont know me, so you couldnt be expected to know of my efforts or lack there of efforts to better this country.

I stand FIRM by my stance that leaving solves nothing and should not be encouraged.

and a month ago no one would heave ever thought it possible for a black man to become President of The United States Of America.
And in that vein, no one will believe its possible for a party or politician to change the face of politics and by extension, the ills of our nation, no one believe it possible, until the day its done.

So iam praying and working towards that day.

you can choose to be sarcastic and snippy and very happy with how well you wield your pen or maybe you could also believe
That, Yes we can.

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2008, 07:45:35 PM »
Nothing worth responding to in that post that I've not already covered...

"you can choose to be sarcastic and snippy and very happy with how well you wield your pen or maybe you could also believe
That, Yes we can."


...other than your hypocrisy.

"
you reccomend leaving?

awesome!! cause thats gonna soooper fix the problem!!!
yay for you and all like you!!.....

Now what is the tone of this message? Tell me the tone of this message was not sarcastic and condescending, please? Or is it lost on you that I responded to you with the level of consideration and respect you offered? I'm sorry but your stance doesn't grant you the privilege of any superiority that you so clearly took when it doesn't make you one degree better than they are and you stance no more valid. Address the points.

In fact, don't even bother.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2008, 07:48:27 PM by Synchronomyst »
What can you do to end the hunger?
It's no surprise that many will die with the coming shortage of food
When there is no grain to feed the butchered cows
When there is nothing to feed yourselves...
Then you will see that money can't be eaten.

-The Locust

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Re: We finally done it! 500 murders in T&T!!
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2008, 07:45:35 PM »

 


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    January 20, 2019, 09:19:53 PM
  • protomanex: Shout out to man like Crimson
    January 20, 2019, 09:19:44 PM
  • Crimson609: shout out to gyal like Corbie Gonta
    January 20, 2019, 09:19:06 PM
  • cold_187: Why allur don't make a discord or something?
    December 03, 2018, 06:17:38 PM
  • Red Paradox: https://www.twitch.tv/flippay1985 everyday from 6:00pm
    May 29, 2018, 09:40:09 AM
  • Red Paradox: anyone play EA Sports UFC 3.. Looking for a challenge. PSN: Flippay1985 :)
    May 09, 2018, 11:00:52 PM
  • cold_187: @TriniXjin not really, I may have something they need (ssd/ram/mb etc.), hence why I also said "trade" ;)
    February 05, 2018, 10:22:14 AM

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