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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #420 on: October 27, 2009, 12:50:19 PM »
I still think this game is going to be real good, probably will be playing it for a few months along with Uncharted 2 :p

Anyway this reminds me of the COD 4 campaign where you are the "innocent" president of that overthrown republic. You get executed from a first person perspective. So the game takes place with different characters in several situations, why is it so shocking that we get to experience the conflict from these different perspectives. We get so caught up with the "good" guys killing the "bad" guys and people are disturbed when innocent civilians die. I find it makes it more realistic as civilians do get caught in the cross fire. Most importantly people seem to forget that by the time you complete one of these games you've probably killed over 500 people, that's alot of killing regardless of "good" or "bad" lol.

I found this article on a game (Virtual Jihadi) interesting, you play the role of a suicide bomber and are shown the motivations for such activities (murder of ur family etc.) Interesting to see how uncomfortable people get when seeing it from this perspective.


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Is It Wrong to Assassinate the President in a Videogame?
John Funk posted on 24 August 2009 10:00 am
Filed under: john funk, art games, first amendment, george bush, kate mckiernan, president, protest, terrorism, virtual jihadi
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In games like Call of Duty 4, gamers step into the shoes of U.S. soldiers slaughtering Middle Eastern militants without a second thought. But when we switch the roles around - even target the President - is it suddenly offensive?

Games - and gamers - are no stranger to controversy. We decry it when modern TV networks portray our hobby inaccurately, seeing offensive material where there is none (so we think). We wholeheartedly reject the definition of violent games as "murder simulators." But ... what happens when someone intentionally makes a game that is a murder simulator - in fact, a murder simulator where your target is the sitting President of the United States of America?

As Kate McKiernan relates in Issue 215 of The Escapist, that was the case with The Night of Bush Capturing: Virtual Jihadi, a game mod created by Iraqi-born American artist Wafaa Bilal as a way to draw attention to the plight of Iraqi citizens under the American invasion and occupation. Bilal soon found himself in the center of an argument about morality and censorship - why is it okay for one game to demonize an entire group (in this case, Arabs and Muslims) as evil, but not to do the reverse?

    Virtual Jihadi is a game where it's easy to see the delineations between the medium (a first-person shooter), the content (shooting American soldiers and assassinating Bush) and the speech (racist generalizations are dangerous). The game uses the videogame medium as a chance to explore what would drive someone to become a suicide bomber (the content). By taking the player through the grief of the senseless death of a family member, Bilal asks the player to consider - not approve, but consider - where these bombers are coming from (the speech). It encourages players to consider that if The Night of Bush Capturing is a mindless recruiting tool for racist violence, Quest for Saddam may be as well.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2009, 12:52:16 PM by woodyear99 »

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #420 on: October 27, 2009, 12:50:19 PM »

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #421 on: October 27, 2009, 12:56:34 PM »
I like your post woody and agree completely, what the HELL is right and wrong? we label ourselves 'good' cause we using the AMERICAN SEALS? or army as our character? that makes it OK to fight in middle eastern countries and kill their forces? WHAT yuh really doing there in the FIRST PLACE? fighting 'terrorism' ? noone said bo about the 'civilian' EXECUTIONS in the beginning of MW, but BOOOHOOO we killing americans on american soil in a video game and OMG it's taboo all a sudden? %^&*ing double standards $H!T

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #422 on: October 27, 2009, 01:44:31 PM »
granted there has been violence to civies in past games, it was never put in our hands so much
and we have been groomed since our gaming youth that military type action should never be taken against civies, thats why its so shocking.

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #423 on: October 27, 2009, 02:02:51 PM »
True, we've played through countless mandatory levels in various games where one dead civilian = game over. I personally never liked missions where you had to protect an AI ally, leads to frustration at times lol.

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #424 on: October 27, 2009, 02:20:07 PM »
Personally, I don't have a problem with this, and I agree wholeheartedly with W1nTry on this one,
but do you see what I'm saying about the backlash? 

If our lil forum can heat up so much, and we're not even Americans, imagine the $#!t-storm in the American press when everyone has played the game and knows about this.

I'm going to enjoy playing that level (and shouting expletives in Arabic all the while :laughing7:).
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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #424 on: October 27, 2009, 02:20:07 PM »

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #425 on: October 27, 2009, 02:24:26 PM »
Personally, I don't have a problem with this, and I agree wholeheartedly with W1nTry on this one,
but do you see what I'm saying about the backlash? 

If our lil forum can heat up so much, and we're not even Americans, imagine the $#!t-storm in the American press when everyone has played the game and knows about this.

I'm going to enjoy playing that level (and shouting expletives in Arabic all the while :laughing7:).

+1 for arc das d same thing i go b doin :)


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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #426 on: October 27, 2009, 02:24:41 PM »
Personally, I don't have a problem with this, and I agree wholeheartedly with W1nTry on this one,
but do you see what I'm saying about the backlash?  

If our lil forum can heat up so much, and we're not even Americans, imagine the $#!t-storm in the American press when everyone has played the game and knows about this.

I'm going to enjoy playing that level (and shouting expletives in Arabic all the while :laughing7:).

For reals, it's payback time muhahaha

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #427 on: October 27, 2009, 02:31:08 PM »
you know what

i think arc just save this game for me
ahahah will purchase to shoot americans and shout arabic expletives!!
lower than my shoes!! infidel dogs! lol

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #428 on: October 27, 2009, 02:39:34 PM »
LOL, next a addon for 'Achmed the dead terrorist skin' whilst doing the mission XD

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #429 on: October 27, 2009, 02:41:50 PM »
SILENCE! I KEEL YOU!!!


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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #430 on: October 27, 2009, 02:54:36 PM »
that skin would win hard

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #431 on: October 27, 2009, 04:26:20 PM »
ROFLs and KEKs at allyuh imagination.  :laughing7:
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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #432 on: October 27, 2009, 04:47:19 PM »
Arc i thought you wasn't buying because of what the CEO said. Changed your mind?
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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #433 on: October 27, 2009, 04:49:22 PM »
Arc i thought you wasn't buying because of what the CEO said. Changed your mind?

Ah think he meant not on pc

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #434 on: October 27, 2009, 05:03:48 PM »
I said I would enjoy playing  it.  :happy0203:
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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #435 on: October 27, 2009, 05:09:35 PM »
I said I would enjoy playing  it.  :happy0203:

Yuh not buyin it on 360 again?

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #436 on: October 27, 2009, 05:50:38 PM »
That level would real win. Like Arc, I would enjoy PLAYING this.

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #437 on: October 27, 2009, 07:44:33 PM »
AH COULD JUST IMAGINE A BIN LADEN MOD FOR DA LEVEL.... LOL, OSAMA KEEEL YOU!!! *BANG BANG BANG*!!!!


WAIT..... F^&%



NO MODS FOR THE PC VERSION.......... jah bey..lol

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #438 on: October 27, 2009, 08:38:06 PM »
lol allyuh yes...
Yea from a story point of view as friendly_sniper pointed out...its all good.
I don't got a problem..but yes those american politicians and press gonna make a killing on this one.

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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #439 on: October 27, 2009, 09:56:30 PM »
AHAHAHAHA...IW's MW2 forum has finally 'collapsed' under the strain.

I can't even access it right now.  Took long enough.
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Re: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
« Reply #439 on: October 27, 2009, 09:56:30 PM »

 


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