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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2014, 11:21:01 AM »
Pre-built systems are nice. Saves you the trouble of the work to install parts and software. For some of us, that's where the sense of accomplishment lies. Knowing you put it together.

Pros -
1) No hassle. Just turn it on.
2) You know it's working when you get it. Well.. supposed to be anyway.

Cons -
1) Dat shipping cost QQ. The weight on that thing fully built might hit you for a 6. Bringing a case alone is a bit much far less for it being fully loaded.
2) Warranty. Being in another country is going to make it difficult if something goes wrong. You may have to send back the entire tower. Again.. Dat shipping cost
3) Warranty again - Some of those companies will consider the warranty voided if you open the case/tamper with the hardware.

But with regards to your question about upgrading. Once there are areas to upgrade ie RAM, GPU, CPU. It can be done once it's not conflicting with the company's policy on the warranty etc.

That particular set up you linked is pretty low end. One of the higher end AMD APU's will out perform that with ease.
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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2014, 11:29:06 AM »
So you actually bought the two-fiddy D?   Nice.  :icon_thumleft:



You would usually have to pay a significant price premium for a pre-built system.
While they are convenient from a construction standpoint, they are also a royal pain in the ass to RMA if you don't live in the States.
Added to that, unless you're ordering direct from the website, you'll pretty much always get a part or two that you don't want/need.

Personally, I avoid pre-built systems like the plague.

Part of the joy of building a gaming rig yourself is the personal investment you have in the finished product.
You can look at it and say... 'damn... I built that'.  :lol:

Once you get all the parts we could arrange the where and when.
I'll be glad to help you with the mini-ITX build.





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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2014, 12:46:57 PM »
Good advice all around, After going through my current budget and planning I'm hoping for all parts to be here before July-August( Once I'm in good health and don't break a limb). I can order most of the parts now and have the Websource guys who I've made good acquaintance guys watch me vex when I can't pay for the delivery; which I have no plans to, those guys work hard in the Diego area and everywhere else in general; so yea, the waiting game begins.

Guess I have to abide with what I got till then, though somehow my current pc somehow knows it's going to be replaced and has been acting up lately  :ko: When I was first starting to think of this upgrade I played inquisitive and did a mock up build on http://www.originpc.com/.
 
BIG MISTAKE!! Even for a mini ITX custom pre build came up to 9k!! :protest: :shakehead: I've learned my lesson from that, and stick with you guys' suggestions, phew..  :ko: (+)  btw, they offering Titanfall and Daylight with any system from their site (for those who have more funds to spend  :notworthy:)


So unless I get blessed with a better job, this is the path I take. :awesome: :happy0203:
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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2014, 05:02:19 PM »
Nah, don't try to rush and buy everything one time.
I certainly don't / can't.

...and Origin PC is a 'boutique' PC builder.  They only use high-end components, so their builds are not for those of us bereft of coin.  :laughing7:





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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2014, 05:06:14 PM »

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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2014, 09:15:36 AM »
While the new system is being put together, I look at my 6 year old system and wonder if i can give life to the old girl. What upgrade options can I put into this system, and would it be worth it for the next few years. ( Or at least till i get the new system up and running.)

Mobo is this: XFX GeForce 8200 www.motherboards.org/reviews/motherboards/1799_1.html
CPU reference I got from here: http://mediafiles.xfxforce.com/xfxcpucompatibilitylist-amd.pdf

Kingston ValueRAM 8GB 667MHz DDR2 ECC Fully Buffered CL5 DIMM (Kit of 2) Dual Rank x4 Desktop Memory will this ram work as an upgrade?

CPU is AMD Athlon™ X2 Dual-Core 5200+ 2700Mhz AM2 65W, thinking to upgrade to a Amd Phenom X3 8750 Black.

As I changed out the GPU from a AMD Radeon HD 6670 to a Geforce GTX 550 TI, I got one day of superb gaming after drivers updated, but now my system is slowing down to a crawl... I'm doing scans and anti virus, will know if it's age or spyware that's causing my PC stress. I think at least i'll have to let go of some games till the new system is here.
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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2014, 10:01:01 AM »
What about I just port that CPU into a new AM2 Mobo that supports DDR3 ram and done? I'm thinking the upgrade options will be easier that way.

I have a feeling the CPU might cap out if I port it to a new Mobo, atm just thinking of getting a combo from Supertech. Or should I just retire the pc and go for a quick fix combo instead that they offer?  :dontknow: :idea1:

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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2014, 11:06:20 AM »
A few things, ECC memory is server memory most times than not, not usually seen in desktop builds. It has higher latencies and is slower than the performance memory, however it is made to be part of high quantity memory for server. The 5200+ is that DDR3 capable?

I used my old X2 in an HTPC with DDR2 as a HTPC doesn't need power as much as a gaming rig.

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« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2014, 11:34:38 AM »
Not sure how to test my CPU for DDR3 compatibility, in the end i guess I'll clone my drive and probably convert the system into a Linux PC. Do you know of a way to test the cpu for the DDR3 ram?

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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2014, 02:27:14 PM »
Motherboard came in, one step towards the completion of this build. :yay: :awesome:

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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2014, 08:21:13 AM »
Concerning RAM, which is better to work on the board i bought as well as being low profile in case the PSU may stick out over it, should i go with this: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231468

OR this: AMD Radeon R9 Gamer Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820403051

Also, what's the lowest PSU wattage I'll need for my build that will support a high end GPU to crosshair with my APU in the future?(Possibly a R9 GPU) Keep in mind it's to fit the CPU case ( CM 120 Elite). I seek one with 80 Bronze Plus ratings tnx.

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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2014, 09:54:59 AM »
Any 500 - 600W PSU will work.
Look at the modular Corsair models.

As for the RAM, the Ripjaws will work fine.
They're nowhere near tall enough to cause clearance issues with the PSU in the Elite 120.





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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2014, 04:33:25 PM »
You mean Crossfire not crosshair right? With a R9 GPU you say?

I don't think that possible considering the APU runs a low-mid range GPU unit.

The links below are the benchmarks for the A10 7850k and the R7 250/240. Notice they give you the results of the CPU and GPU both without Crossfire and with it. There is almost no difference and in some cases, there is a drop in performance. Also note that those benchmarks aren't at 1080p (1920 x1280) but at 1680x1050 and 1280x800.

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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2014, 07:13:57 PM »
Yes I meant Crossfire, my bad  :ko:

The GPU will be a future upgrade to the HTPC build. I was watching Linus do a pc build with Kaveri APU over the weekend, have a look at it and the build list is below.


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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2014, 02:56:38 PM »
Processor and ram just came in, aye ay yai!!!! :awesome: :banana:

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AMD A10-7850K APU AD785KXBJABOX


All I need now for the start up to the system is the PSU, HD/ SSD and the OS Win 8.1, anyone can post me a link for a freemimum torrent? :3 Or at least an affordable PC store locally to get it?  :sassy:
 

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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2014, 03:36:58 PM »
Corsair CX500 just came in W00t!  :happy0203:  :awesome:

Now if only by some miracle I can get a hard drive(a SSD or 1TB HD) and WIN 8 OS I can have this system running for the Easter Holiday. Arc you have sources? if you can get those last 2 for me we can build it for this weekend, Are you available? I might even hire you as a gopher if you can get those for a good price nuh.

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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2014, 04:50:41 PM »
Well, a pardner of mine has a nice used Crucial m4 128 GB SSD that he wants to part with.
Let me get back to you on the price.


Hard luck dey...da SSD gone arready.

As for Windows 8.1...ah could 'handle' yuh with that.   :happy0203:





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« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2014, 09:39:24 PM »
Anyone else who signed up for Wildstar beta weekends getting trouble to log in? i can't seem to at all, any advice? I did the firewall check and even confirmed my loggins on the main site, but still no dice for launcher loggins.

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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2014, 11:23:08 AM »
I got the Crucial M500 2.5 SSD 120Gb HDD from Supertech  on Thursday and the Seagate Desktop 2 TB Solid State Hybrid Drive SATA 6 GB with NCQ 64 MB Cache 3.5 Inch (ST2000DX001)also came in the same day.



Thanks to Saxman who helped me with transport to acquire the drive. (+)

The system is up and running with Windows 8 Pro. Currently seeking blue Led case fans with better intake speeds and less noise, I now see what Arc was saying about the ventilation issue with the case I got. Will definitely save up for a Corsair 250D, that way I can add in water cooling so this system can pack a punch while still running silent. (Yea i know, when i ent hear i ent listen to advice, but i learn now :ko:)

Even though the RAM is red, the lighting theme of the case is blue. I'll also be getting a set of custom dust filters; thanks to Arcman's tip; from http://www.demcifilter.com/

Saxman, expect a call from me when i get in the new cpu heatsink. (Yet another one of those woulda, coulda shoulda moments when I was too hurry to get the system up and running)

Can the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler fit in the Corsair 250D case with the parts I currently have? was saving it for the big build, but if it can i'll hold off getting a low profile heatsink and just get the Corsair 250D and do the change over of parts.

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Re: Trinilink's PC upgrade build(s)
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2014, 01:33:21 PM »
The 212 will end up being a tad too tall for the 250D.   It was really made for all-in-one liquid cooling kits.

I don't really recommend using a tower-style heatsink with a mini-ITX motherboard.   You will make an already small space an absolute NIGHTMARE to work in.

Take my 'stupid' advice and use a Corsair Hydro H60/H80.
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