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Re: OS Reviews ( Mac OS, Linux, Windows , etc)
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2007, 06:20:33 PM »
orry bout the double post but it for a good cause
NoobGoneWild can u find out wat chipset it runs on, thats the most important part
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Re: OS Reviews ( Mac OS, Linux, Windows , etc)
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2007, 11:54:59 PM »
So I installed and everything seems to be working fine...except wireless network... When I type iwconfig eth1 (which is the id for the wireless adapter) i get this...

IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid
          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=-256 dBm  Noise level=-256 dBm
          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0

The when I type iwlist eth1 scan in another konsole i get this

nicholas@nick2:~$ iwlist eth1 scan
eth1      No scan results
nicholas@nick2:~$

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Re: OS Reviews ( Mac OS, Linux, Windows , etc)
« Reply #42 on: April 09, 2007, 12:46:52 PM »
you're going to need a wireless manager, as someone already pointed out you can try wireless assistant.

The broadcom 4318 chipset uses the ndiswrapper - which means that there isn't any native support for it. Like me, if you ever try to use aircrack or even ethereal to sniff its not really going to work. THis is because the ndiswrapper doesn't come with rfmon ( as the name implies enables you to monitor the rf.)

However unless you're planning on doing any wep cracking the card will work. Are you seeing the wireless network when you boot back in windows?(sorry but i have to ask) Also, does your wireless network have SSID broadcast disabled?

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Re: OS Reviews ( Mac OS, Linux, Windows , etc)
« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2007, 12:57:20 PM »
Ok after much digging and searching I found this dude on a forum that had a way to get the w/less air force one to work. Typing this post using w/less in kubuntu 7.04 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343383&page=2. Sandlst's post 4th post down.
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Re: OS Reviews ( Mac OS, Linux, Windows , etc)
« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2007, 01:06:21 PM »
Kewl. I'll keep that fwcutter i mind. Some dude was saying later on about cutting his bandwidth to 11Mbps from 54. Are you at 54Mpbs?
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Re: OS Reviews ( Mac OS, Linux, Windows , etc)
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2007, 01:15:13 PM »
slaming, legend has it that the Motorola wn825g runs a Broadcom 4320.

/sbin/lspci output:       15:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4320 (rev 03)

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Re: OS Reviews ( Mac OS, Linux, Windows , etc)
« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2007, 01:15:54 PM »
Well connection properties say bandwidth is at 49 Mbps. I dont know if its actually at that speed. Any recommendations on how I can check this?

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Re: OS Reviews ( Mac OS, Linux, Windows , etc)
« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2007, 01:30:33 PM »
Now found a "HowTo" for the ndis wrapper and that Motorola card.

Sounds like fun fun. See below.


Submitted by PastorEd on Tue, 01/25/2005 - 15:39.
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It took me a bit of reading, but it wasn't really too difficult to get running. Let me see if I can remember what you're supposed to do.



1) make sure that the version of Mepis you're running has "ndiswrapper" installed. You should be able to find it in your /usr/sbin directory (

ls /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper

at a terminal prompt will allow you to quickly check and see if it's there). If it is, you're 1/3 of the way home!



2) You'll need the original drivers for your card, either from the Motorola site, or from the CD with came in the box. When I set this up, I had left my CD home, so I just grabbed the drivers from the Motorola site. The link for that driver is:

http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/WN825g/downloads/WN-WPCI-Web-Update-v1.1.exe

Please note that it's a Windows executable, so you'll either need a working Windows install to unpack it, or a working Wine install (included with ProMepis, easy to install with SimplyMepis). Once that executable is unpacked, you'll see a number of files in the directory it created ('c:\Motorola_Wireless\WN-WPCI Driver and Utility').

Here's the file you're *really* interested in: bcmwl5a.inf... Now that you have access to *that* file in that directory, you are officially 2/3 of the way home.



3) Run ndiswrapper so that it uses your Windows driver. To find out the various options of ndiswrapper, run

ndiswrapper --help

. But to just get you started right away, use a terminal AS ROOT and navigate to the directory where the Motorola drivers were unpacked, and then do this:

ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5a.inf

<-- this creates the driver wrapper

ndiswrapper -m

<-- this creates the module in /etc/modutils.d

cp /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper /etc/modutils/

<-- moves module

update-modules

<-- um... updates your modules... Laughing out loud

/etc/init.d/networking restart

<-- restarts your networking



That *should* be the last third, and you should be home free. You might want to ping something while you're in a terminal, so you can quickly check to see if you're actually online:

ping 64.40.40.51

<-- this sends outgoing network info

If all worked well, you should see back:



PING 64.40.40.51 (64.40.40.51): 56 data bytes

64 bytes from 64.40.40.51: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=120.7 ms

64 bytes from 64.40.40.51: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=120.7 ms

64 bytes from 64.40.40.51: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=120.7 ms...



(this will go on forever until you stop it with Ctrl + C)



I hope these instructions weren't too cryptic, and that you can be online in no time!



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Re: OS Reviews ( Mac OS, Linux, Windows , etc)
« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2007, 02:26:44 PM »
Next thing i want to get working is bluetooth push service where i can download/upload files from my phone. The system recognises the bluetooth device w/o a problem, however the default bluetooth app is woefully inadequate. Now i've used the package handler to install some other bluetooth apps. The question is, how do I access these apps?

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« Reply #49 on: April 09, 2007, 03:26:21 PM »
lol....well most likely they'll be installed to the /usr/bin folder by default. If its not in your Applications Menu  then you can always open up a shell and type "./" and then the name of the app. So it looks like "./myapp". If you just Navigate to the usr/bin folder i should warn you that the folder is quite large. If you're in a shell you can narrow down the list by using "ls *firstletter/part of name*. Alternatively you can also use grep with ls - "ls | grep -i appname"
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« Reply #50 on: April 09, 2007, 11:21:43 PM »
So I ran into some trouble in that I only made a partition a little over 2gigs for the installation and i wanted to install some packages that required more than that. I tried several times to resize the partition w/o success. I mean I could easily do that if I format the entire hdd but tht would mash up Windows, which I can't really handle doing over right now, so....project scrapped for now.

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Re: OS Reviews ( Mac OS, Linux, Windows , etc)
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You can use GParted to resize your partitions. It works really well and is open source (naturally). I always have a Live CD ready for when I am fooling around with new distros.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/index.php

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Re: OS Reviews ( Mac OS, Linux, Windows , etc)
« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2007, 04:23:36 AM »
you're a guru

I am not. lol

maybe you can pass HQ some time and get mine running. Would be much obliged.

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« Reply #54 on: April 10, 2007, 11:03:52 PM »
I suppose if you're looking for a more "nerdish" way to re-partitioning your drives there is also fdisk, and I think parted is the CLI version of Qparted.(Or is it Gparted..one of dem ting)

http://www.nilbus.com/linux/disk-copy.php
See the later part of the article.

When I first started with linux I went to http://linuxhomenetworking.com
This actually proved to be quite a useful base...it won't tell you everything you need to know, but quite handy!

lol@TinyGrasshopper ... dude if you've recompiled your kernel without crashing you're a linux guru. So the day that I do that - then i'll stop considering myself a noob @ linux.

By the way out of curiosity, has anyone ever played around with gentoo?
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« Reply #56 on: April 14, 2007, 03:24:58 AM »
lol @ epic ndiswrapper guide
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« Reply #57 on: April 14, 2007, 09:36:16 AM »
the nice thing about linux and opensource, is thats there'a almost always great documentation that goes straight to the point.

you should give it try, its pretty simple to install.
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First INQpressions PC-BSD 1.3: Basic, simple, does the job

By Liam Proven: Tuesday 15 May 2007, 11:51
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Website http://www.pcbsd.org/
System requirements Pentium or higher (686), 256MB RAM, 4GB HD, Network & sound cards
Price free

I'VE BEEN TRYING to reinstall my old laptop recently. It's a battered old Thinkpad i1200 series from about 2001. It was a basic, economy-model machine: no Ethernet, no floppy, no serial, no infra-red, single Type 3 Cardbus slot; don't even ask about wireless or Bluetooth. One screen hinge is broken and I've fitted more than the official maximum amount of RAM (there's a 256MB SO-DIMM in its single slot, which only officially takes a 128, for a total of 320M), which works fine but /really/ confuses the BIOS. The hard disk whines nastily, too. Despite this, though, it's a real workhorse: it's very reliable and has never let me down. In the past it's run Windows ME (which it came with), Windows 2000 and XP - the latter sluggishly but solidly.

Since it was pensioned off a couple of years back, it's been running Ubuntu 6.06. This didn't install without a bit of a struggle, though - the kernel hangs on boot unless I pass the "irqpoll" switch. I don't know exactly what that does, but searching for info suggests that it saps performance somewhat.

Alas, no kernel newer than 2.6.15 will run on it, regardless of combinations of irqpoll and noapic and nolapic and disabling ACPI and so on. Xandros 4 came closest: it booted, but after more than four hours it hadn't got as far as the installer. Ubuntu 6.10 and 7.04 won't start, nor will SUSE, Fedora, Mandriva or Slackware (in the form of Zenwalk) or Debian (in the form of Knoppix). They all seem to hang at the point of polling USB.

While flailing around, I even tried the demo CD of Serenity's eComStation, a third-party update of OS/2 Warp. It booted happily but with no sound and no networking – so not an awful lot of use.

So, getting increasingly desperate, I thought I'd give PC-BSD a whirl. This is a distro of FreeBSD tweaked for an easy desktop install.

I've tried FreeBSD before but found it a real trial to get it installed and working. This was on a server, with no graphics or sound or anything, but still, I had to use boot floppies and manually configure the network card, and once it was finally running, there was no simple way to update the thing with the latest fixes.

But PC-BSD is a /very /different beast.

It went on first time, no hesitation. Even booting from the install CD, it found the Cardbus slot, found my old Xircom RealPort Ethernet card, connected and went online - which is a damn sight more than Ubuntu could do until I'd apt-getted it into submission. It cheerfully ran the setup program in 1024x768, the native resolution of the LCD. Sound, PCMCIA, USB, networking – everything just works. It knows it's on a laptop and displays a battery meter in the taskbar tray – but that's about it. No processor-throttling or anything: it's flat out, all the time. I had to manually tell it to blank the screen when idle.

I was straight online after a very easy, graphical install. One reboot and it was ready to go, with only 2GB of my 20GB disk used – and that's with browser, email, chat, media players, some games and basic productivity apps all pre-installed. It updated itself with some half a dozen fixpacks until it's now at v1.3.6 or so – only one of which required a reboot. It now sports KDE 3.5.5. I don't like KDE much - I used to, but I think it's horribly bloated these days: complex, slow, fiddly, ugly and a bit flaky. Bits of it keep on passing out - but that may be normal for KDE.

However, it does the job, and it's instantly familiar if you've been around the Linux block once or twice.

Aside from KDE, everything is quite responsive and it was dead easy to add Firefox, Flash, Java, OpenOffice, Skype and suchlike from their online package-download site, a link to which is handily left on the desktop. No fiddling about with repositories or restricted components – you download what you want then double-click it. Bosh.

There's a basic but fairly complete suite of admin tools, all integrated into the KDE control centre.

With no additional mucking around, I was able to get online from in bed then watch a DivX movie off a USB key. The only thing it didn't do is mount the USB key for me - I had to go to a terminal, SU to root, make my own mountpoint, inspect the kernel messages for the device name and then mount it myself by hand. That's a bit 1997 for my tastes, but I can cope.

Other luxuries which it doesn't offer but which one might expect in a modern Linux are suspend/resume, power management and maybe support for the onboard Winmodem – but I don't actually /need/ any of them.

I'm really quite impressed.

I can't honestly think of a reason to recommend this to anyone over Linux, unless you've got both a powerful aversion to Windows /and /some weird hardware glitch that means you can't install a modern Linux - but it works and works well. Friends of mine who are the sort of Unix beardie who lives at the command line and sneers at graphical desktops tell me that BSD feels more like an integrated whole than Linux: apparently, they say, you can tell that everything came from a single team and one source, rather than Linux's "three thousand unrelated bits of code flying in close formation". Me, I wouldn't know; all I care about is that commands like /dmesg/ and /top/ and /fdisk /do what I expect, which is more than they do on Solaris, say.

For something which is a real minority player, bearing the same sort of relationship to Linux as Linux does to Windows - a way-out, off-beat option for those who prefer to eschew the mainstream – PC-BSD works really well.

If you're comfy in a kaftan and sandals, you'll like this... In fact, it might all just be too easy. µ

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« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2007, 04:48:30 PM »
Just a suggestion.

Try out Linux Mint.

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  • cold_187: Why allur don't make a discord or something?
    December 03, 2018, 06:17:38 PM
  • Red Paradox: https://www.twitch.tv/flippay1985 everyday from 6:00pm
    May 29, 2018, 09:40:09 AM
  • Red Paradox: anyone play EA Sports UFC 3.. Looking for a challenge. PSN: Flippay1985 :)
    May 09, 2018, 11:00:52 PM
  • cold_187: @TriniXjin not really, I may have something they need (ssd/ram/mb etc.), hence why I also said "trade" ;)
    February 05, 2018, 10:22:14 AM

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