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500 kills in 11 months, we may as well be playing unreal tournament...
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161407654
Arima man 500th murder
Gang, drug-related killings major cause of increase by 153 cases
Denyse Renne drenne@trinidadexpress.com
Sunday, November 30th 2008
T&T's murder toll reached 500 yesterday, with the latest murder victim identified as Wilfred Fredericks.
Fredericks, 20, of Bye Pass Road, Arima, was shot dead around 1.45 a.m. yesterday, while standing on Mahabir Lane, Arima. Police say Fredericks was approached by a lone gunman who shot him several times about the body.
Fredericks managed to run a few feet away before collapsing. He died at the scene.
Homicide detectives are yet to establish a motive for the murder.
So far for the year, gang and drug-related killings have contributed significantly to the upsurge in murders, while domestic brawls, altercations, robberies and collateral killings also accounted for a large percentage of murders.
Statistics further showed, of the 500 murders committed to date, only 71 have been detected, an increase of six, when compared to last year around this period.
Sunday Express' statistics also show murders have increased by 153, compared to the same period last year.
Region Two (North, North-Eastern, Eastern divisions) accounted for the bulk of detections, which currently stand at 43.
A senior homicide detective, commenting on Region Two's detection rate, said his officers "have been working tirelessly in an attempt to bring the perpetrators to justice".
"Several of my officers are called on their days off, and because of their dedication to the job they respond," the senior officer said.
Stating detectives under the supervision of ASP Johnny Abraham, Insps Stanley Ramdeen, Ancil Corbette and including Sgt Andrew Lawrence and PCs Sunil Ramoutar,Tyrone Jack, Kevin Thomas, Suzette Martin, Josaine Sampson-Johnson and Ameer Mohammed, just to name a few, the senior officer said Region Two's successes this year include the detection of nine murders which were committed in 2007, and also several others which were committed in 2006.
"Following investigations, two charges of manslaughter and attempted murder have also been laid," the senior officer said.
Numerous media conferences held by senior officials, including Acting Commissioner of Police James Philbert, who was appointed to the post on July 5, have tried to assure the public that officers are making progress in various homicide cases.
One such instance was the October 9 killings of elderly Swedish couple Ake Olsson, 73, and his wife, Anna Sulvan, who were found with chop wounds at their Bon Accord, Tobago, home.
Homicide detectives said then they believed that robbery was the motive and were expecting to lay charges soon.
Two suspects were arrested and subsequently released and an artist's sketch was issued to the public, but so far, detectives say they are still investigating the matter.
Express statistics further showed Tobago accounting for two cases of manslaughter and five murders.
Under Philbert's tenure, 229 murders have been recorded thus far.
Thirteen inquests have been ordered by the office of the Director of Public Prosecutions, while 17 killings are yet to be classified, since investigations are ongoing.
The unclassified killings include bullet-riddled bodies and autopsies, which have been inconclusive.
Inquests, manslaughters and unclassified killings do not form part of the Sunday Express' murder toll.
For the year thus far, 47 females between the ages of two to 65 have been brutally murdered, while 12 murder/ suicides were recorded.
Five law enforcement officers, inclusive of two police officers, along with one fire, prison and soldier were also murdered this year.
Seven State witnesses were also killed a month apart-Balliram Krishna Harripersad (February 11), Terrance Haynes (March 16), Harold Joseph (April 5), Ishmael Drayton and Daniel Roberts (May 1), Anthony Ryan (June 12) and Gabriel Charles (July 28).
Murders also took a toll on taxi-drivers who were plying their trade, with 17 drivers being killed for the year.
The murder toll recorded also included 30 persons who were reported missing by their relatives.
On September 19, National Security Minister Martin Joseph announced that the Special Anti-Crime Unit of T&T have been mandated to conduct investigations into gang-related killings.
Following the announcement, 53 killings involving gang members have taken place.
So far, May has been the bloodiest month, accounting for 56 murders, while June has the second highest with 55.
February accounted for 28-the least number of murders.
Any bets on the end of year figure???
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I'd say about 520.
December's yet to come, after all.
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This is sad... but hey(being sacarstic) with all the teen girls in the country(i know at least 5 from school) the amount of births make up for the deaths by far! :shakehead:
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520, NEO? Nah, man. 28 was the lowest figure for the year. I'd say about 541.
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You know, I was aiming for a higher number, but I figured that the crooks would like to take a break from all of the bloody God-forsaken slaughter that they've been undertaking and actually enjoy the holidays. You know, sing carols, enjoy a cold glass of sorrel, crack open some other guy's wallet and buy a big ham....
This is sad... but hey(being sacarstic) with all the teen girls in the country(i know at least 5 from school) the amount of births make up for the deaths by far!
...unless they choose to have the babies at Mt. Hope.
OOOOOOOH BURN.
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That's a 5 star burn there, sonny.
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You know, I was aiming for a higher number, but I figured that the crooks would like to take a shot at breaking the highscore in this bloody God-forsaken Deathmatch that they've been undertaking and actually enjoy the hellidays. You know, sing Movado/Kartel, enjoy a cold glass of Hard Wine, crack open some other guy's Head\Chest and buy more guns....
edited to show the criminal mind here... :violent5:
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yu know
that movada/kartel comment really hit home
as much as i hate when the media is to blame for bad things happening..
Is there any good that comes out of movados "music"
hmm just did a check...
New York State (not city but state)
population of 19.8 milli
murder rate, 801
trinidad
population of 1.3~milli
murder rate, 500+
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my god
i did another search
the borough of Manhattan (several times the size of trinidad)
has 65 murders a year.................... my god... what the hell are we doing?
When NEW YORK FREAKIN CITY IS SAFER THAN TRINIDAD!!
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to much lawlessness in Trinidad, wild wild west
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Wait, what?@Crixx's figures.
Oh hell no.
*packs bags*
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yu know
that movada/kartel comment really hit home
as much as i hate when the media is to blame for bad things happening..
Is there any good that comes out of movados "music"
hmm just did a check...
New York State (not city but state)
population of 19.8 milli
murder rate, 801
trinidad
population of 1.3~milli
murder rate, 500+
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my god
i did another search
the borough of Manhattan (several times the size of trinidad)
has 65 murders a year.................... my god... what the hell are we doing?
When NEW YORK FREAKIN CITY IS SAFER THAN TRINIDAD!!
Why you think I Live in NY now? EHH!!?? That offer still open eh Crixx, feel free to stop by when you visit NY... :P
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My neighbour just pulled us aside yesterday, while we were about to drive off, to lament about the situation in Trinidad and offer his home for sale. He's leaving, for good and recommending we follow suit.
Crime being the paramount reason why.
These statistics certify his position.
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My neighbour just pulled us aside yesterday, while we were about to drive off, to lament about the situation in Trinidad and offer his home for sale. He's leaving, for good and recommending we follow suit.
Crime being the paramount reason why.
These statistics certify his position.
I not even there and I recommend it too! Trinidad has changed so much since I was last living there. My family is still there and I am always telling them its time to move..Things are just out of hand there, and Haiti is what I see as the future of Trinidad, with the current Gov't in place. Children are suffering and starving to death in haiti daily. People need to wake up and realize that its time for CHANGE!! Take example from Obama's win here in the US and DEMAND Change!!
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I can see it now, Winston Dooks on a podium saying "YES WE CAN" XD
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you reccomend leaving?
awesome!! cause thats gonna soooper fix the problem!!!
yay for you and all like you!!.....
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you reccomend leaving?
awesome!! cause thats gonna soooper fix the problem!!!
yay for you and all like you!!.....
Well if you want to stay and try to change things, all well and good, good luck winning the elections and convincing the majority who vote for the PNM and manning for the Umpteen time that you are the Change that is needed.
They need to fix the laws and create TERM limits on Prime Ministers. I'm sorry, but the same two men running for Prime Minister every election is NOT democratic in any way, and for the general public to not take notice that a Dictatorship and NOT a democracy is in place there, then I feel sorry for the future of the country. Yes, I chose to leave, not because of the crime, I left to get an education here in the US, and over the years, as things have gotten exponentially WORSE, I decided it was time for Change, a Change of my place of residence. Change comes over time, and things have Changed there, for the worse...
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you reccomend leaving?
awesome!! cause thats gonna soooper fix the problem!!!
yay for you and all like you!!.....
You've done a right good job yourself by being here. I'm proud of the initiatives you've undertaken in your patriotic and selfless quest to save the country. Oh wait, what's that? I'm sorry. Did someone say that all our possible leaders are insincere, power hungry hacks who play an uneducated mass of simpletons every election day? That these citizens are far too laid back and far to set in their own ways for them to even be receptive to education, objectivism or changing their way of thinking and that the system of governance and the influence of the private sector and special interests on the government is so fundamentally flawed that it'd take a massive shake-up of each and every service done by a truly altruistic and charismatic leader who can play to a vastly polarized country to make a difference? But that such a hypothetical leader lacks divisiveness that Trinidadians are typically responsive too and has an extremely difficult task ahead and many, many adversaries with which they'll encounter because they'll chose to stand for something? That they'll be silenced and not even given the status or martyrdom that they've so rightly earned because Trinidadian and Tobagonians are f**king ingrates?
While we're at it...to HELL with anyone who leaves the United States or and comes here because they're dissatisfied with the type of life they experience there, because that "soooper fixes" the problem AND god damn those people who decide that they want to move away from socially and economically stunted neighborhoods because they're overwhelmed with a feeling of powerlessness and wrought with fear! Why don't they grow a backbone and stay and fix their damned neighborhoods? Is that what you were trying to say? Such an intelligent and well thought out argument, Crixx.
Oh. Never mind. Because if you weren't saying that I'd think it'd be wrong of you to even DARE to condescend to someone who makes the decision in the light of all this apparent futility to attempt to make something better for themselves for the short time they have here. I would think that you would understand that and that they decisions are equally as valid as anyone else's because they don't -owe- a society that is not even trying to look after itself -anything-.
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OH SNAP.
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1603/talkaboutowned5twnn9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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you reccomend leaving?
awesome!! cause thats gonna soooper fix the problem!!!
yay for you and all like you!!.....
You've done a right good job yourself by being here. I'm proud of the initiatives you've undertaken in your patriotic and selfless quest to save the country. Oh wait, what's that? I'm sorry. Did someone say that all our possible leaders are insincere, power hungry hacks who play an uneducated mass of simpletons every election day? That these citizens are far too laid back and far to set in their own ways for them to even be receptive to education, objectivism or changing their way of thinking and that the system of governance and the influence of the private sector and special interests on the government is so fundamentally flawed that it'd take a massive shake-up of each and every service done by a truly altruistic and charismatic leader who can play to a vastly polarized country to make a difference? But that such a hypothetical leader lacks divisiveness that Trinidadians are typically responsive too and has an extremely difficult task ahead and many, many adversaries with which they'll encounter because they'll chose to stand for something? That they'll be silenced and not even given the status or martyrdom that they've so rightly earned because Trinidadian and Tobagonians are f**king ingrates?
While we're at it...to HELL with anyone who leaves the United States or and comes here because they're dissatisfied with the type of life they experience there, because that "soooper fixes" the problem AND god damn those people who decide that they want to move away from socially and economically stunted neighborhoods because they're overwhelmed with a feeling of powerlessness and wrought with fear! Why don't they grow a backbone and stay and fix their damned neighborhoods? Is that what you were trying to say? Such an intelligent and well thought out argument, Crixx.
Oh. Never mind. Because if you weren't saying that I'd think it'd be wrong of you to even DARE to condescend to someone who makes the decision in the light of all this apparent futility to attempt to make something better for themselves for the short time they have here. I would think that you would understand that and that they decisions are equally as valid as anyone else's because they don't -owe- a society that is not even trying to look after itself -anything-.
who is the they that is supposed to fix our problems?
THe same "they" that made america such a "great"country?
Some enigmatic bunch that just one day decided that america wasnt good enuff and therefore they would push the, this isnt godd enough and it should be fixed button, and thus was born america the free?
No i think not. People run to more developed stable countries when things are bad in their own country, those people never consider how much effort and work had to be put into making said country great, by the very citizens that make said country.
You cant expect someone else to come in and fix your country for you.
What happens when things start going bad in america and things are going good in another country, or say Trinidad gets fixed?
You run back to Trinidad?? at that point you dont DESERVE to be in either country.
Patriotism and Nationalism are lost on the vast majority of our population.
Encouraging people to run away from the ills of our country is not and can not be the solution.
I dont see Obama being the new prez as such a giant deal as say an american might, because ive grown up in a country that was liberated from colonial rule by black leaders. I remember Mandela's struggle well, to be fair to most Americans, they dont know Mandela's struggle at all, they know not of Dr Eric Williams , so its not a case of them forgetting.
Now, again, you dont know me, so you couldnt be expected to know of my efforts or lack there of efforts to better this country.
I stand FIRM by my stance that leaving solves nothing and should not be encouraged.
and a month ago no one would heave ever thought it possible for a black man to become President of The United States Of America.
And in that vein, no one will believe its possible for a party or politician to change the face of politics and by extension, the ills of our nation, no one believe it possible, until the day its done.
So iam praying and working towards that day.
you can choose to be sarcastic and snippy and very happy with how well you wield your pen or maybe you could also believe
That, Yes we can.
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Nothing worth responding to in that post that I've not already covered...
"you can choose to be sarcastic and snippy and very happy with how well you wield your pen or maybe you could also believe
That, Yes we can."
...other than your hypocrisy.
"you reccomend leaving?
awesome!! cause thats gonna soooper fix the problem!!!
yay for you and all like you!!.....
Now what is the tone of this message? Tell me the tone of this message was not sarcastic and condescending, please? Or is it lost on you that I responded to you with the level of consideration and respect you offered? I'm sorry but your stance doesn't grant you the privilege of any superiority that you so clearly took when it doesn't make you one degree better than they are and you stance no more valid. Address the points.
In fact, don't even bother.
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Sync bringing some serious scholastic aptitude to this discussion yes.
Well let's not get at each others throats. The issues are real and no doubt escaping to a more stable country is one option. Granted it's not the patriotic recourse but then again, not everyone is a patriot.
Some may see the Planet as their playground and not limit themselves to the island of Trinidad simply because of it being their birthplace.
On the other hand, trini zealots may face down the crime situation and try to enact change. My bro is one such person. Always talking about revolution.
A great point was made about not allowing one to be Prime Minister for more than two terms. That's definitely going to shake things up a bit at the top.
More on the ground level though, what can we do to abate the crime on this island?
If say, one were to subscribe to your position crixx? What is step #1?
I love my country but I must admit, Canada (in particular British Colombia) starting to look better and better.
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Trinidadians tend to accept injustice and inequality on a daily basis.
People dont know their rights, the ones that do dont fight for them and people see the law being fractured all around them and wont do the simplest things.
My car was broken into for the second time in a month, i called 999, they told me to go to carenage branch.
I didnt like this, but i went to the branch, i felt that a car should have come, inspected the scene, made some rounds and taken my report.
I went to the carenage branch, was barked at to go to the four roads branch.
at this point the other occupants of my car were in no mood for more crap but i soldiered on.
Went to four roads, was greeted by a sympathetic and very very helpfull officer.
He gave me advice on changing my car locks to a more resistant type, something i didnt know previously existed.
and told me that i could go to st james branch to get the car dusted.
Went to St James Branch, didnt know where to park so i sent my friend inside to ask where to park, while iam waiting on her, a sergeant approaches me with a mean looking smg. I saw him coming so wind down my window , wow, he then points the smg into the car and ask me what the hell iam doing here...
I say well i sent my friend inside to ask where we should park, he steups and says, yuh cyah park here!
I said alright but where should i park sir,
He responds, what the hell yuh come in here for yuh cyah park here...
I once again say ok no problem i didnt know, there was no signage stating no entrance so i stopped to find out ...
Yu eh hear meh??? yuh cyah park in here.
Another officer walks over and asks me what iam doing here, i said i came to file a report.
He says ok sir, please park opposite the station, i say thankyou.
We file the report, car is dusted, the dustition (meemself know wah yuh does call dem) was very nice and very helpfull.
I relay the adventure of the previous officer and he shakes his head and says, that is unacceptable.
I went into the station and asked for someone in charge and told him what happened.
He summoned the officer and took him aside and spoke to him.
The officer walks off most angry looking but says nothing.
The guy dude in charge then apologizes for him and says have a safe day please.
Most people wouldnt have had the guts to stand up for themselves.
Especially in that station, where previously, an elderly man of 68+ years came in to the station to make a report and was allegedly beat badly by an officer for being rude....
But anyways.
Demand better service
Demand your rights.
Make noise through proper channels and follow up, loud dem up in de papers and through all possible means.
Not a racist thing or anything but i have noticed that the local whites tend to get better service and seeming respect from people in service positions. In part because they demand their respect and rights and also in part because of the lingering master slave mentality.
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That's a nice way to deal with things on an individual basis Crixx, I applaud your determination there, but again, how is that helping the country as a whole? You can't force everyone to do what you did. You think anybody in Trinidad know what happened to you except for you, your friends and your family..The average person in Trinidad is not going to do what you did, they would rather steups and move on with their business, because they fear that reporting the crime will result in nothing being done anyway.
Have you heard back from the police since they dusted your car for prints? Any leads in your case? If so then GREAT! Otherwise, you are in a long line of reports filed with police stations all over Trinidad about crimes like that. Do you have statistics of the success rates of catching the criminals that break into cars?
My point here is that it takes more than individual changes in behaviour and attitude. If a group is formed perhaps, to protest the lack of Police activity, and have public protests, then fine, if there is information being distributed amongst the country about the basic rights of Trinidadians as citizens to educate them or remind them if they have forgotten what rights they do have with regard to the laws and what is within the law for peaceful protests. Then all well and good. I believe that there is strength in numbers, and protesting in a peaceful manner to show your opposition to the way the country is being run within the limits of the law is every person's right to do so. The people are the ones electing the Gov't and it's the people who decide when they are unhappy and need change.
If you want to make a difference, start a group, to protest in a peaceful manner, which gains media attention and hopefully reaches an international level, where people in Trinidad can wake up, since they seem to be sleeping to the fact that Trinidad is in danger...cause it seems like they tend to pay more attention to International news than problems right at home...that's just my two cents...
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dont individuals make up groups??
It all starts with individual effort, with one person show that yes it can be done.
your right, a grain of sand alone is nothing, but then again, all it takes to start that land slide is one grain sliding along into another and another.
As for MAKING people do something, no, unfortunately iam not Darth Vader i cant do it all alone.
But i refuse to believe that my individual effort is in any way a bad thing and not a step in the right direction.
Maybe ill take that individual action further sooner rather than later and form some groups dedicated to certain actions and try our very best to get some snowballing done.
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It's pretty simple to solve crime, just make me the absolute ruler of the nation for 2 years. It'll be a totalitarian, despotic communist nation, but I guarantee i'll clean it up... so what if 60% of the population would go 'missing'? wouldn't you rather live in a less populated island anyway XD
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It's pretty simple to solve crime, just make me the absolute ruler of the nation for 2 years. It'll be a totalitarian, despotic communist nation, but I guarantee i'll clean it up... so what if 60% of the population would go 'missing'? wouldn't you rather live in a less populated island anyway XD
Oh there you go...although I think the UN would not look upon that as being Humanitarian...There will be heavy sanctions placed on your Totalitarian Gov't, you will be opposed by V's and their Vendetta will be merciless...ROFL!
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*In his best Joker imitation* "It's all part of the plan...." How else do you expect 60% of the population to go 'missing' ??? You think i'd waste money to make them vanish? HA! when famine will do that for me?
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lol @ dustitian and w1ntry's plan.
Nationwide Neighbourhood watch yes
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It's pretty simple to solve crime, just make me the absolute ruler of the nation for 2 years. It'll be a totalitarian, despotic communist nation, but I guarantee i'll clean it up... so what if 60% of the population would go 'missing'? wouldn't you rather live in a less populated island anyway XD
I dunno why...I just see Death Note for no apparent reason...
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More lolz @ 'dustition'. :laughing7:
This is Crixx's best english to date. I'm impressed. :)
On a serious note...our biggest problem here in sweet TnT is accountability.
No one, from the PM on down to the security minister and further can and are held accountable
when things go awry. They continue to plan, plan continue to fail, and we all go our merry way
until elections, and conveniently forget the indifference, and incompetence of the previous five years.
All the money spent on national security over the last 7 yrs by this administration (something like $15 billion)
and what has it gotten us? Can we actually point out improvements in anything. Are we any safer?
I went through the car burglary thing, so I can understand Crixx's frustration. Going through that and then
hearing from a policeman in San Juan that 'borse, well yuh ent gettin dat back yuh know', is truly infuriating.
Again, just a basic lack of accountability and devotion to duty.
As older folks often say: 'when fish rottening, it does start from the head'...
'...but de driver drivin good' (c) Luta
I don't agree with leaving either, but I could never be against someone for doing so.
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It's pretty simple to solve crime, just make me the absolute ruler of the nation for 2 years. It'll be a totalitarian, despotic communist nation, but I guarantee i'll clean it up... so what if 60% of the population would go 'missing'? wouldn't you rather live in a less populated island anyway XD
Hey I'd vote for you.
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Personally, I wouldn't knack anybody for leaving this country to 'go on to greener pastures', so to speak. A while ago, I would have, because I shared the point of view that if you leave, 'the terrorists have already won'. To an extent, that might still hold because if you run away from your problems instead of fighting them down, things simply won't get done.
But, on the flipside, people do have a right to a better quality of life, and if they see it happening somewhere else, then, you know. More power to them. I'm not going to go aggro on them and accuse them of being traitors to their country.
Let's face it. According to Crixx's stats, we're worse off than New York in terms of the murder rate, and that's one hell of a thing to accomplish in a single year. Food prices have been skyrocketing and the government has been callously throwing away money into useless projects that could have been forgone, and it's only recently they've begun to realise how utterly stupid they've been.
Is there really an incentive to stay here anymore?
Mind you, I'm not asking that as a rhetorical question, so don't automatically take my personal answer as an outright "No!". I'm posing that as a legitimate question to everybody out there.
Mind you, despite how bad things have been getting, Trinidad does have its merits.
As such, we should be able to fight for them as much as we can. But, for those of us with loved ones that might feel the bitter sting of criminals getting their revenge, I wouldn't blame you at all if you'd want to get them out of here and in a place where they're a lot better off.
So, it's a two sided coin, really, depending on your situation and point of view.
Fight or fly, it's your choice.
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The thing is that the 'common man' is so damn stupid that they willingly take the 'something for nothing' hand me outs that the government throws (their form of winning votes) and they don't realise that all the wild grass cutting expenditure will bite us further down the line when there isn't a steady flow of oil and gas and when they'll really need it. Trinidadians have a disgusting mentality of instant gratification. Most of the country i'd venture to say are 'common' cause only a MAJORITY can put a government in power and guess which bunch of retards they put back into power? the SAME MORONS that during the last oil boom spent our money recklessly and left the country in a difficult financial situation. Guess what history is destined to repeat itself and the ONLY good thing is the slow down has come whilst the IDIOTS are still in power, so just as the US was FINALLY able to see the current administration for the failures that they are, we can only hope that one good point to come out of this depression is that the 'common man' will finally be able to see with his own eyes that the current regeem is nothing more than smoke and mirrors, same old $hit different coating of paint. For the other 25% that didn't vote for EITHER OF THE FLAILING, STAGNANT, HYPOCRITICAL prominent parties and wanted change, well Fight or Flight indeed...
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You know, someone once suggested to me that Trinidad should adopt the American way of doing politics and just oust the person behind the mantle of power after they've served X number of years. Ideally, it's a good thought, but we simply don't have the people (as well as the open-mindedness to accept change) to even get cracking on that.
Still, the thought of ousting Patty from office is a rather good one. Especially if said ousting was done with a catapult.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd-X6sPcL80
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Looks like it will make for an interesting poll. Fight or Flight. Should we pour our efforts into leaving this country for a better and safer life elsewhere or stay and try saving it from murderers and corruption?
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Let's face it. According to Crixx's stats, we're worse off than New York in terms of the murder rate, and that's one hell of a thing to accomplish in a single year. Food prices have been skyrocketing and the government has been callously throwing away money into useless projects that could have been forgone, and it's only recently they've begun to realise how utterly stupid they've been.
You're kidding me, right? They've actually realised something?
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No country has become great by bemoaning their ill fortune, throwing their hands in the air and looking for an escape route. Brain drain is a serious problem and NEO if you dont consider those people unpatriotic, then what pray tell is the criteria for being unpatriotic?? The two major world powers right now, the established "democratic" federation of states aka USA and the up and coming Red state of China. What are there two foremost precepts? Patriotism and nationalism.
They both fought tooth and nail for their country and continue to do so.
We like to emulate america and everyone else for that matter so much but seldom choose to emulate the things that make them great.
And btw Arc, as for my diction here, isnt it obvious that my "bad english" is a choice on my part? I enjoy talking like a lol cat or 1337 speak on teh innernets, its great, because i dont speak like that at all in person so meh why not on tehz innerwebs?
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Actually, it's imperialism that's the foremost precept. Call me cynical, but more of than not patriotism and especially nationalism are forms of coercion used by those in power to establish as much single-mindedness within the population as possible. This can be good, yes... but it can (and often is) naturally bad because there are no benevolent administrators (i.e. why communism, while good on paper, mainly does not work). That's why, for all it's Patriotism and Nationalism, North Korea does not experience the same sort of glory these two countries do, now does it? I would say, in the case of the United States, that it's imperialism, coloured by that ostensibly American brand arrogance and ambition that has established them as a superpower. You know, the same brand of arrogance and ambition that caused them to annex Mexico in the very earlies of their existence right through Dollar Diplomacy and their current (and much maligned) foreign policy now that inspired their ascension into power and would -not- have occurred otherwise. Patriotism and Nationalism were just a tool in the hand of very adept political engineers.
In China's case, there's already a lot more of the same added to an already very homogeneous and culturally collectivist society, where patriotism and nationalism are maintained through censorship, fear and totalitarianism. These sort of dictatorial interface with the population going to facilitate that sort of growth. It's essentially a continuation of the Dynastic rule that China was accustomed to for centuries.
You know what's really something, though? Neither country was comparatively as power as they are now in modern times...because they're economically interdependent on each other.
I genuinely think you've narrowed your scope too far down, dude.
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Let's face it. According to Crixx's stats, we're worse off than New York in terms of the murder rate, and that's one hell of a thing to accomplish in a single year. Food prices have been skyrocketing and the government has been callously throwing away money into useless projects that could have been forgone, and it's only recently they've begun to realise how utterly stupid they've been.
You're kidding me, right? They've actually realised something?
lol... indeed this ship has no captain, no crew, and no rudder.... just a bunch of headless chickens running amok
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You know, someone once suggested to me that Trinidad should adopt the American way of doing politics and just oust the person behind the mantle of power after they've served X number of years. Ideally, it's a good thought, but we simply don't have the people (as well as the open-mindedness to accept change) to even get cracking on that.
Still, the thought of ousting Patty from office is a rather good one. Especially if said ousting was done with a catapult.
Term limits are imo undemocratic but definitely the way to go. For everybody. As in, your job for the next 30 years cannot be "Member of Parliament"; this career politician thing hadda go. However the same people who would have to vote in these term limit changes are the same ones that will be limiting themselves. So ya, not happenin.
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Anyone notice the latest headline in the express? SIX KILL BOY? and though I did not read the article myself (as my blood pressure would hit the roof reading the CRAP that T&T is doing) a co-worker did... and to hear that these 'things' these excuses for walking, talking piles of human WORM excrement did not take out their fierce and senseless hatred on the person who even remotely expressed his disapproval towards their action, but his FRIEND!!! they beat, stab and KILLED the FRIEND OF THE PERSON THAT SLAP THE CAR GLASS... not BREAK MIND YOU, SLAP *W1nTry unleashes Tsukiyomi on the 'hills of laventille' * WTMC!!!!!! and wait it gets better... the doctors sew the boy up thinking "great I can go pat myself on the back for being as close to God as humans can be with my mighty complex" and the boy DIES.... cause they punctured his HEART... *W1nTry unleashes Susanoo on Mount Hope*.... WTF IS GOING ON!!!
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It hurt me to read that article as well w1ntry...
What i gathered:
men in car bounce down boy.
boy hit glass of car in retaliation
heated exchange, leading to boys getting beaten/stabbed
men speed off in car.
i hope they get caught and they all HANG for this.
F**k Amnesty Int'l. Cases like these is where hangings and Police Brutality is really needed.
btw don't forget to amaterasu the Beetham.... we need that place cleaned up in time for the summit....
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It hurt me to read that article as well w1ntry...
What i gathered:
men in car bounce down boy.
boy hit glass of car in retaliation
heated exchange, leading to boys getting beaten/stabbed
men speed off in car.
i hope they get caught and they all HANG for this.
F**k Amnesty Int'l. Cases like these is where hangings and Police Brutality is really needed.
btw don't forget to amaterasu the Beetham.... we need that place cleaned up in time for the summit....
Its time like this, I wish there was a Hammer of Dawn like in Gears of War...tactical fire from the sky to burn them all to hell!!
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F**k Amnesty Int'l. Cases like these is where hangings and Police Brutality is really needed.
Quoted for truth
btw don't forget to amaterasu the Beetham.... we need that place cleaned up in time for the summit....
I'll need to use something more powerful than Amaterasu for that... *W1nTry goes off to learn merging with the Kyubi*
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lol we need to form "TRINISUKI" lol
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I hold no brief for The Beetham, or Laventille, but how are you all so sure the perps came from there?
A lot of good people live in those communitites folks, but the 'bad boys' have them under heavy manners.
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I hold no brief for The Beetham, or Laventille, but how are you all so sure the perps came from there?
A lot of good people live in those communitites folks, but the 'bad boys' have them under heavy manners.
I would just as equally obliterate Arima, Parts of Sando, Penal, Mayaro, etc. Don't think because i've singled out two 'notorious' areas that I am discriminating, however sterotypes are there for a reason and the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. If by vaporizing a few areas the entire nation will benefit, such is the cost of progress.
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steups @ that more powerfull than fire from sun god comment
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* shudders at the thought of W1ntry being
emperor Prime Minister * :hiding:
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no no
i would be emperor, or rather lord vader minister, rule with ultra iron fist
i firmly believe in anakins stance, that maybe.. sometimes.. you just need to MAKE them obey, and MAKE the politicians agree on the best course of action for the country.
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*PM Vader performs mind trick over tv* there is no need to fight or use/sell drugs anymore.... no need for killings.... I am your emperor obey me and all will be well..... do not test my patientice
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^_^ and there will be cake for everyone ^_^
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*W1nTry makes side note: The merging with Kyubi comment was more for increased chakra more than anything else*
That aside, who needs politicians? everyone should just obey me, and all will be well and there will be cake and ice cream for all the good little boys and girls of T&T...
XD
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lol imagine trinidad get guts out from all de chinese ppl that coming here lol, the seemingly lowly construction workers who are actually sleepers of the red army of china lol *shudders*
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^ Dat would be sooooo Coool!!!
I just hope dey don't kill me until they kill all the blasssteeed creemmeenals first!
Btw... teh cake... eet eeess LIES!
but on ah less hyper note...
Is it just me, or is the media, the persons running talk shows as well as the music being played all over the airways complementing the lifestyle that these hooligan criminals are pursuing?
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but on ah less hyper note...
Is it just me, or is the media, the persons running talk shows as well as the music being played all over the airways complementing the lifestyle that these hooligan criminals are pursuing?
It's not just you
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wha we go do is trinidad lol promote violence +9 comments about lessening violence +1