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Tech Talk => Hardware, Tweaking & Networking => Graphics Cards => Topic started by: amd-dude on February 06, 2011, 11:23:17 AM
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Well fellas just as the title states i've been waiting on crysis 2 for a long time and it will be out later this year and i am thinking about a small upgrade....what graphics cards would you all recommend so i can play crysis 2 in full HD goodness with full AA and all the other goodies.
Been looking at the msi version of the 460 mainly because the current 250gts i have works so well and can overclock really well...plus the twin frozr cooler just looks badass, or should i wait till closer to the game release and see what other cards come out and what price drops take place?
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.....shouldn't u be running an amd card? ah go tell!!!
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Had bad times with ATI they emotionally scar meh so i jump to nvidia cards and they never let me down yet...but i was looking at a 5850 though...how does urs run?
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You should upgrade to TWO 460s, or else, what's the point?
If you're upgrading to a single card, it might make more sense to upgrade to a 560 Ti.
You're not going to see the kind of gains you're expecting with a single 460.
...and CryEngine is notoriously rapish on GPUs, despite optimisations.
You're going to need all the help you can get for Crysis 2.
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You should upgrade to TWO 460s, or else, what's the point?
If you're upgrading to a single card, it might make more sense to upgrade to a 560 Ti.
You're not going to see the kind of gains you're expecting with a single 460.
...and CryEngine is notoriously rapish on GPUs, despite optimisations.
You're going to need all the help you can get for Crysis 2.
What that guy said.
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You should upgrade to TWO 460s, or else, what's the point?
If you're upgrading to a single card, it might make more sense to upgrade to a 560 Ti.
You're not going to see the kind of gains you're expecting with a single 460.
...and CryEngine is notoriously rapish on GPUs, despite optimisations.
You're going to need all the help you can get for Crysis 2.
560 is the way much much better than the 460
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Yea bro as someone who has a GTX 260, I'll advise getting the GTX 560 ti lil later down this year in time for your game as the prices would have simmered down.
I plan to get a GTX 560 ti myself, most likely this one ====> MSI GTX 560 ti Twin Frozr IIOC 1GB (http://www.amazon.com/MSI-N560GTX-Twin-Frozr-IIOC/dp/B004JLNZXU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1297017613&sr=8-2/)
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Yip, a pardner bought that MSI 560, working bess. He couldnt be happier.
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I think Hard O/C is right
Thanks to the game now being a console title, you can bet they were forced to optimize the living daylights out of the code.
From all accounts, its running smooth enough on the 360 (albeit @ low res...and medium quality settings)
1152x720 to be exact
That means any mid range PC should be able to handle it at HD with ease.
Unless of course they hit us a "blackops"
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Humm looks like the 560 is a better way...but better still is a 580... a partner of mine has the evga 460 and he runs crysis at 1920x1080 with full AA and all that good stuff and he gets 40-50fps...that sounds like decent performance to me.
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Humm looks like the 560 is a better way...but better still is a 580... a partner of mine has the evga 460 and he runs crysis at 1920x1080 with full AA and all that good stuff and he gets 40-50fps...that sounds like decent performance to me.
Yea but a 560 would last long than the 460 would before u need a new gpu.
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Define 'full AA'. At that resolution, there's no way that you can achieve even 40 fps with anything more than 2x AA.
Pics, or it didn't happen (...is all I'm sayin).
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Define 'full AA'. At that resolution, there's no way that you can achieve even 40 fps with anything more than 2x AA.
Pics, or it didn't happen (...is all I'm sayin).
Remember there are different presets. He could have very well put it on entry level and just jacked up the aa. It would probably play well with one card in that case.
But cosign on getting a 560 ($260) over the 460 ($200). It just makes all kinds of sense springing that extra $60 to get *that* much more performance.
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yeah at that price you can't go wrong.
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Yea just asked him again and it was a mixture of High and Very high settings with 4xAA so i think i will shell out the extra and get a 560...but what kinda power does that ting pull...my 12c rail only has 36amps
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You should be fine with 36A, was trying to find somewhere that has a good listing of GPUs and their min required Amperage. What PSU you using btw?
Not sure if to follow this listing to heart but here it is anyway http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=104805.0;wap2 (http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=104805.0;wap2)
Here is another good read about someone wanting to get a GTX 560 Ti but concerned about power requirements http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=335925 (http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=335925)
It seems the only real problem would be getting the big baddies like a 580 or going sli with 470s but the other guys here would pitch in with more detailed info I'm sure :lol:
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I noe ppl will laugh at meh psu but its works well...its the diablotek phd 650 paid like 1500tt for it (clearing and shipping) but i guess is good components it made out of....it is a heavy thing, had it about a year now no problems...i read that some ppl who did an actual power test on the thing says it actually puts out 38amps and not the rated 36amps..but who knows the internet is full of truths only right....LOLZ :D
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Ok just read that the 560 needs 31amps and 500watt psu...you all think this to close to the 36amps and 650watt i have? should i really stick with the 460 which is 26amps and 450watt psu...this is just a temporary upgrade the main upgrade will come end of the year when sandy bridge and bulldozer settle down and i know how each overclocks
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So no love for the HD 6950 1GB?
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haha my smear campaign against AMD cards seems to be gaining traction muhahahah
nah but seriously, the 6950 seems to be a good performer, just based on my personal AMD experience, I find it hard to recommend them to anyone. How can I recommend a brand that has given ME ( and me alone...not talking about the multitude of AMD graphics users out there who have no issues) nothing but headache.
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And sadly Capn's issues could actually be the fault of some other piece of hardware or software running in his machine... as with many things milleage may vary XD
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Yeah, if I had to buy a single card right now, the 6950 would be it...especially
because of it's ability to 'unlock'.
...but somehow, there seems to be a puzzling anti-AMD sentiment running through this thread forum. :)
...and I've honestly never heard of 'Diablotek' before.
My god...you went past ALL them other brands and end up there? :shakehead:
I wish you had found this forum before you bought that.
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Particularly the article on Tom's Hardware that helps you identify (even 'BRAND' name PSUs) the ones that are CRAP disguised as 'priemere'... diablo... serisouly ?
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Yea i bought that when i "thought" i knew about parts (such a noob) but the main reason i bought it was cause my partner had a 850 in it and it works well...either way thats what i have now so that will work till the end of the year...the monster pc bank account is now at 12k...so i keep saving and maybe i will finally get a killer system end of the year :D...but i was actually youtubeing the 6850 which is placed between the 460 and 470 performance and runs at lower power...im just saying
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We have been referring to the 6950, NOT 6850. The 560 runs like a 470 (and according tom's hardware practically IS a 470 without disabled features) and the 6950 1GB bests the 560 most times... so that would mean since 560>=470 and 6950>560 logically 6950>560...
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lolz @ diablotech.
And sadly Capn's issues could actually be the fault of some other piece of hardware or software running in his machine... as with many things milleage may vary XD
Certainly a possibility.
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Yea i bought that when i "thought" i knew about parts (such a noob) but the main reason i bought it was cause my partner had a 850 in it and it works well...either way thats what i have now so that will work till the end of the year...the monster pc bank account is now at 12k...so i keep saving and maybe i will finally get a killer system end of the year :D...but i was actually youtubeing the 6850 which is placed between the 460 and 470 performance and runs at lower power...im just saying
My adice, get the gpu that gives the best performance at the resolution you play at or just get what you want because you would clearly have many options thrown out here (which is good) from members but just get what you want, cyar go wrong with that..
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Yea i bought that when i "thought" i knew about parts (such a noob) but the main reason i bought it was cause my partner had a 850 in it and it works well...either way thats what i have now so that will work till the end of the year...the monster pc bank account is now at 12k...so i keep saving and maybe i will finally get a killer system end of the year :D...but i was actually youtubeing the 6850 which is placed between the 460 and 470 performance and runs at lower power...im just saying
My adice, get the gpu that gives the best performance at the resolution you play at or just get what you want because you would clearly have many options thrown out here (which is good) from members but just get what you want, cyar go wrong with that..
True dat...all the advice the guys gave were good...i would have never considered the 560...i think right now its between the 560 and the 6850...good power consumption vs bang vs buck...or i might just wait for crysis 2 to come out...try it on my system and if i not happy with the performance then upgrade the card.
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You mean 6950, right? Don't confuse em.
...and I found a review (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/12/17/diablotek_phd650_650w_power_supply_review/1) of that Diablotek PSU.
Oh.
My.
Lawd.
My advice to you my friend, is to replace that PSU asap.
Not to scare you or anything, but the way you're driving such a PSU
with your OC'ing, it's gonna fail catastrophically sooner or later.
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Good greef my PSU is total shit...dah whatever this is a temporary system anyway next build i will go with one from the good folks at silverstone :D
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I already had EVGA GTX460, no need to upgrade for crysis 2.. i'l wait for the GTX600 series which they called kepler.. GTX460 and 560 has little bit difference, GTX400 series and GTX500 series are fermi, so they had the same technology used.. but this year i rather wait for the GTX 600 series the kepler. cause it will use new technology, it will be 28nm. so its much cooler than 400 and 500 series.. it said it will be release on the last quarter of 2011..
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Be that as it may, Nvidia isn't known for keeping their deadlines, particularly on process shrinks (admittently the fault of TSMC) and also because of power. These chips are getting bigger and more complex, couple that with new nm process usually == disabling features. The 560 is more akin to the 470 than the 460. It does have noticeable performance increases. That being said, if you follow a rule I subscribe to myself upgrade every 2 or more generations, then he could go with a 560 or as you said wait til the GTX 6xx comes out.
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I think i may as well wait for the 6xx series...if it does come out by years end that will fit into my major upgrade plan...bulldozer or sandy/ivy bridge (which ever one overclocks better for a good price...having said that my major upgrade bank account is now 14k...by years end i hoping for 30k to dip into so i can finally build a true beast of a system with no compromise :D
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14k is a quite healthy upgrade budget. I'll have make do with about a 7/8k budget depending on how much I can save between now and then.
Yes, the 560 is quite a bit faster than the 460. If by years end nvidia does release new parts/isnt even close, im hoping that the 570 comes down to about current 560 prices so that I can get two of those.
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I was looking forward to that beast that coming just now...the 590...dual gpu goodness :D but this year really is a shake up year for upgrades...just a waiting game now.
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Man, that 590 is going to be more expensive than 2 580's im guessing.
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HELLS TO THE YES...i feel that thing would cost in the 700 or even 900 region...but still... the power of 2 580's that's ridiculous