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Tech Talk => Hardware, Tweaking & Networking => Processors => Topic started by: Spazosaurus on February 27, 2012, 03:34:36 PM
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Those, like me, who are marking the launch of the Ivy Bridge chips may have to wait a little longer.
No problem, will give me more time to save up...
Manufacturing issues apparently
Intel exec Sean Maloney told the Financial Times over the weekend that Intel’s next generation 22nm chips will ship in June.
Ivy Bridge was originally expected to ship in early Q2, but it seems Intel was forced to delay it for a couple of months due to manufacturing issues. Rumours of an Ivy Bridge delay have been circulating for weeks, but this is the first time an Intel exec went on the record and confirmed the delay.
“I think maybe it’s June now,” he said.
However, some things are still not clear. VR Zone reported last week that dual-core Ivy Bridge parts will be delayed, but quads were supposedly on track. Maloney did not elaborate and it is unclear whether he was talking about the entire series, or just dual-cores.
Intel’s official position is only that it will start shipping Ivy Bridge in Q2, so both April and June are covered.
In any case, the delay could play into AMD’s hands, as the outfit is gearing up to launch Trinity APUs and even try to unsettle Intel in the ultrabook market with some low-voltage parts.
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26087-ivy-bridge-pushed-back-to-june
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Saw this. Good post!
One thing for sure, like you said there: More time to save up.
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Well... A month or two won't hurt. I just hope retailers actually obey the MSRP.
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^ Wishful thinking.
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http://blogs.nvidia.com/2012/03/tesla-gpus-crank-intel-sandy-bridge-cpus-up-to-11/?sf3431807=1
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http://wccftech.com/intel-roadmap-officially-confirms-ivy-bridge-launch-q2-2012-sandy-bridgee-q4-2011/
http://www.slashgear.com/intel-ivy-bridge-launch-confirmed-for-april-29-27220313/
Maybe no delay after all?
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What an epic fail. No six core? Nah.
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Intel Hyperthreading technology seems to be superior to physical cores and adding additional cores would only increase power consumption(added heat) with marginal processing gains. They seem to be focusing on gaining more power out of a smaller package by improving the cpu basic and advanced instruction set.
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^^ Like I mentioned to the guys on mumble. I will say it again. Intel's 1366 platform has showed itself to be much a champion and well then same 1155, a small line. But with juice! Then 2011 who has since been the borse on the block. The ivy bridge 1155 skt would only be able to do so much against 12 threads of raw power.
Does anyone else notice the OBVIOUS pattern from Intel ??
This time I am sticking with 2011 six core platform.
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This is interesting...
Intel admits Ivy Bridge chips run hotter
Overclockers beware
By Lawrence Latif
Mon Apr 30 2012, 11:50
CHIPMAKER Intel has admitted that its latest Ivy Bridge processors run hotter than its previous generation Sandy Bridge chips.
Intel launched its Ivy Bridge line last week with the firm touting its 22nm process node as its biggest achievement. Intel's smaller process node along with changes in the interface material between the die and the heat spreader have led to reports of higher temperatures.
Overlockers lifted the lid on its Ivy Bridge sample to find that the chip's die had thermal paste on it to interface with the heat spreader, whereas Sandy Bridge processors used solder. Now Intel has confirmed that it is using "a different package thermal technology" on its Ivy Bridge processors.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, Intel said the shrink to the 22nm process node leads to higher temperatures due to increased thermal density, adding that "users may observe higher operating temperatures when overclocking". The firm added, "This is as designed and meets quality and reliability expectations for parts operating under specified conditions."
Intel's process node shrink has concentrated heat generation, meaning it needs improved heat dissipation, which judging by reports and our own tests, it doesn't have. Although our tests were conducted on the statistically irrelevant sample size of one, put simply the same heatsink and fan that worked on our Sandy Bridge Core i7 2700K could not cut it on the Ivy Bridge Core i7 3770K.
Intel will claim that Ivy Bridge thermal design power is the same as Sandy Bridge and in this case it is true that temperature isn't linked to power usage. Nevertheless, going by Intel's own admissions overclockers might want to steer away from Ivy Bridge. µ
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2171299/intel-admits-ivy-bridge-chips-run-hotter (http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2171299/intel-admits-ivy-bridge-chips-run-hotter)
Personally I was just telling a padna NOT to buy Ivy as the tech improvements with 3d and Tri-gate were invested heavily into improving the IGU not the CPU... so wait till its pure CPU... but thats just me.
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But what the ......
Come on Intel. Better than this
On another note. Intel is facing the whole idea of smaller CPUs and power. That sound like heat to me
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As win rightly pointed out, they have shifted into a strategy where their midrange chips have video integrated into the CPU. Obviously this would be technically more complicated than a pure CPU but it makes sense to make decent and standardised integrated video available to board partners and consumers that just want a powerful non-gaming rig...which is fine.
For this very reason, IB is definitely NOT meant for the hardcore enthusiast that wants the maximum performance and overclocking. I really do not know why people are treating it as such.
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^^ so they did with the 32nm Sandy Bridge.
How else would ppl want to treat it? Come on, you as well waited patiently on it because of the performance figures SB presented to us.....
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*starts chewing :happy1: while awaiting Awesome's response*
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lol @ red the bacchanalist.
Not because a b-14 can do 220km/h means it is a race car. Its fast but wast built for racing.
So is the current Sandy Bridge and Ivy bridge line of cpu's. SB-E and IVB-E is where it is and will be at respectively for the hardcore.
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^^ Now you are just guessing. Or did I miss the memo with the IVY Bridge E ?
Anyhow, still standing high, is the fact that SB is serious cutass and IVY falls short of a few things.
SBE is totally on another platform clearly..
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U forget the 'E' stand for Enthusiast. Plain old Ivy Bridge replacing plain old Sandy bridge. Whenever it comes out, IB-E will replace the current crop of SB-E 3930k's and 3960 x's
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Like I said, totally different platform altogether.
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I go jump in.
Ivy Bridge rel disappoint me oui.
Ivy bridge was meant for the mobile market, and more advancement has been made on the gpu side of things.
Power consumption, heat etc. If u running Stock SB vs Stock IB, then yea, IB is the way.
But for overclockers, IB could stay right there.
A Sandy Bridge could overclock better than that thing, i not even tlaking SB-E, plain old sandy, over-clocking better than IB.
Also, no 6 core? Sigh.
Im skipping IB all together.
I either staying Sandy, or bumpin up to d 3930k.
And based on what i see bout IB, even if ure able to cool it to the point that d thermal limits are removed and u could OC d shit out of it, them chips not meant to run with that kinda voltage, and im sure d lifespan of a OCed IB going to be significantly less than a SB. D kinda madman OC i does do, that go stay right there. (Running 4.9GHz on my 2600k now, going IB i lucky to make 5).
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Correct, IB is not meant for the enthusiast and/or overclocker. IB-E is the only thing on the horizon that could compete with SB-E.
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I was intrigued by the 77W TDP as well, but when I saw all the official reports of temps near 100C while overclocking (and with proper tower-style coolers too) I was a tad disappoint.
I'll be sticking with X79/LGA2011 as my upgrade path, although for the price of that 3930K, you can get a 3820 + motherboard.
Intel could keep that. :laughing7:
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I always wanted to go 6 core, but d insane price of d X series, vs d little to no benefit it gives in gaming, just wasn't wroth it. That 3930k is ah nice compromise, still an expensive beast, but still plenty cheaper than d X.
So i taking ah bite of that.
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^ yep it is certainly the sweet spot!
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Chiney sound like we building d same rig boy.
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
Intel Core i7-3930K
Corsair Vengeance RAM
2 * EVGA GTX 680 Hydro Classified / GTX 690
If i go 690 go be interested to see how it faceoff against yuh 2 680s in true.
But with that rampage, im almost tempted to go 3 680s.