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Tech Talk => Hardware, Tweaking & Networking => Graphics Cards => Topic started by: TriniXaeno on February 12, 2012, 09:06:13 PM
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Price, specs, release date:
http://lenzfire.com/2012/02/entire-nvidia-kepler-series-specifications-price-release-date-43823/
Prices/performances seem intriguing.
WTF
45%
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And right around the corner in april. Interesting times.
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*Sits back and waits for GTX 560's-580's to go on sale for piper prices*
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(http://www.operationsports.com/forums/albumpicture.php?albumid=2395&pictureid=20426)
GG AMD.
That 650Ti looks like the best deal there. Wouldn't even bother looking at the 500 series after these drop.
Also doesn't look like the 7870/7850 are going to be a match for the mid range cards either. Oh well. Nvidia FTW!
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Saw a similar article a couple weeks ago, still waiting on more concrete evidence instead of these rumours.
Still, without a doubt, a GTX 680 with my name on it has secured a place in my rig soon after launch day...to start.....
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Like everything I take with pinch of salt. OFFICIAL pictures or it DIDN'T HAPPEN. I have no problems giving whomever is better my money. My mobo supports both SLI and Xfire so whomever has the best card for my money wins. Plain and simple.
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^ With you on this one!
Also, until my 6990 cries out, I see no need to upgrade. :cowboy:
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bleh... as with previous nvidia releases... i'll wait till its actually out and benched..
still not upgrading for awhile doh
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likewise, not upgrading for a while....but keenly interested in the development of this line.
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More than likely most ppl CPUs will be the bottleneck here.
Also considering it's PCIe 3.0, most ppl may have to upgrade their boards as well (I know i will), if they want to unlock the true potential of the card (i'm talking about the GTX 680).
I will not be upgrading for a while...
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bottleneck or not, you'll be playing games at blistering speeds. That's for sure.
and that's the more important thing imo, lol
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hmmm glad I en upgrade in awhile.
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So it seems that waiting could pay off... after seeing the successful launch of the 7k series AMD gpus, I figured, hey why not at least WAIT to see what the green team has to offer... interesting times...
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Kepler-Samaritan-GeForce-GK104-gpu,14927.html#xtor=RSS-998 (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Kepler-Samaritan-GeForce-GK104-gpu,14927.html#xtor=RSS-998)
In case you're too lazy to read that RATHER SHORT article... it basically says, Nvidia kepler is able to run (in real time) an EPIC Games Demo on ONE kepler card, that took them 3 GTX 580s to run last year.... unless its a GTX 690 which is technically 2 GTX 680s then i'd say the increase in performance is HARD to ignore.
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nvidia 680 is mineee, regardless of price/
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670 or 680 for me
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nvidia 680 is mineee, regardless of price/
You saying dat now, until IF true and it BLOWs the competition away and they put a 700USD price on the 680.
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nvidia 680 is mineee, regardless of price/
You saying dat now, until IF true and it BLOWs the competition away and they put a 700USD price on the 680.
Well if that's the price for problem free drivers,i say that's a good price.
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Well if that's the price for problem free drivers,i say that's a good price.
A DOWN PAYMENT on a SECOND HAND CAR is NOT a good price... (u ask how is this possibly a down payment? we just sold a PBD elantra for 13k so YEAH 4K IS A DAMN DOWNPAYMENT) I does MARVELL at ppl that willing to pay thousands for comp parts and say 4K is a GOOD PRICE... or a phone, or a ANYTHING that isn't actually a life needed necessity... that being said, I also know if you have it spend it, but many ppl spend copious amts of money on FRIVOLOUS things and cyah even pay rent or food bills, or baby fees...
Sorry bout the rant ppls, I just can't let it be said that 700USD is a GOOD price.
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That can never be a good price!!
NEVER, not for a start up price at least.
Tell me you plan to let it sit for as least a month or 2 before you spend 700US x 2 ....
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700 US getting two midrange cards that will pwn one of those so-called 'high-end'.
I not even willing to pay 400 US for a card, so 700 is absolute mind-lossery. :laughing7:
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Lol my work is done here
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Apple lacks faith in Nvidia??
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-nvidia-intel-kepler-ivy-bridge,15015.html#xtor=RSS-998
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Product launch or it didn't happen XD
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Link Arc shared with me earlier, nearly wet myself all kinna thing...
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-kepler-geforce-gtx-680-benchmarked-blows-hd-7970/
Read and enjoy.
Dont worry brahs...
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Those results weren't as impressive as you made it sound Capn. The 3DMark showed a marked increase the actual gameplay wasn't as stellar and tied in some cases. We have to see the price of these cards now to determine who's best and as with everything milleage will vary depending on budget and needs.
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Nvidia 'Kepler' GeForce GTX 680 Specifications Leaked
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-Kepler-GeForce-GTX680-gpu,15012.html
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Those results weren't as impressive as you made it sound Capn. The 3DMark showed a marked increase the actual gameplay wasn't as stellar and tied in some cases. We have to see the price of these cards now to determine who's best and as with everything milleage will vary depending on budget and needs.
Tied exactly in one place, where im led to assume that the game is cpu limited at that resolution since both cards produce the SAME fps...not to mention that mw3 engine is like7 or 8 years old at this point.
I'm inclined to agree with Hard. Historically, competing cards in the same segment from both manufacturers are usually very close performance wise with Nvidia being slightly slower.
This time, the opposite seems to be true AND does so with less total power consumption and lower tdp. Coupled with the fact that I expect that with more mature non-beta drivers, performance will only look better compared to ATI's 'more matured' (insert fistful of salt here) drivers.
I'd say this (if true) is an epic win for nvidia. ONLY thing that would make it fail is if the price delta between the two cards is too great.
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LOL @ 'fistful of salt'. I have experienced the best and worst of AMD's drivers, so I know of what you speak.
All of a sudden, the GPU wars have heated up again. :awesome:
I await the announcement of the midrange kit. (660/670 GTX, maybe?)
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All of a sudden, the GPU wars have heated up again. :awesome:
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Reviews out on the GTX 680:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5699/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-review
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-review/
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4622/nvidia_geforce_gtx_680_kepler_2gb_reference_card_video_card_review/index.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/52616-nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-2gb-review.html
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=877&Itemid=72
Enjoy!
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http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-review/
read this early this morning
very impressive nvidia.. never disappoints!
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=gtx+680&x=0&y=0
Newegg has them up already, nothing on Amazon side yet -_-
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http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/introducing-the-geforce-gtx-680-gpu?sf3580958=1/
More reviews. Comments from ppl in India and Malaysia wanting cheaper prices on the GPU :ko:
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WOW!! This thing TRIPLES the performance of a single one of my GTX 460's!!!
want want want want want
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Wow... dual-GPU cards and all getting a beat-out.
Nvidia strike gold this rounds yes.
If only **heavy prayers** the price could come down to about 450 US, I may have reason to ditch Crossfire/SLI for my next upgrade.
I wonder if two of these in SLI could wine up on three 7970s?
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I wouldn't day nvidia never disappoint, but this is definitely a welcomed product. Waiting on 650gtx
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Raster and cheeze, nvidia boy waaayyeeeee.
Card keeping pace with my 6990 oui, my word.
Well like i always say, no blasted loyaltee nah, amd could hull they tail.
Nvidia come good boy rass.
More performance than d 7970, Less TPD and less $$, RASS!
One of them cards going toe-toe wiht my current card, i wondering what 2 woudl do.
Any word on when we seeing d GTX 690?, that will be disgustingly sweet, based on how d 680 getting on, and most likely my Next GPU.
(Time to join d green team)
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I wonder if two of these in SLI could wine up on three 7970s?
I'd like to see that comparison myself. Going off raw power, woudlnt be able to , but if they SLI scaling better, mite juss be another beat-out.
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I see 2 of these in my near future
6990 for sale!
unless i can get another 6990 i will keep mine and quad fire
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Only problem with quadfire it doesnt scale well.
2 680s will WTFPWN 2 6990s unfortunately.
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Contemplating waiting on the 4gb version. With 3d coming in more and more, may need the extra texture storage soon er rather than later.
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ANNDD then again there's the even MORE uber version (http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26459-geforce-kepler-gk110-basic-specs-leaked) coming out in q2!!
Ok, i'm officially waiting for gk110
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Ok then.
The wait is on!
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oh yes.. nvidia didnt drop the ball this time...
good news for consumers
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hmm to sell current card or not to sell....hmmmm
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=gtx+680&x=0&y=0
Sold out in 1 day, lmao
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Amazon doesn't even have them yet wtf.
I also still don't get how the 7970/7950 hasnt dropped in price either =/
Maybe we shall see some changes in the next few days? hmmmm...
edit: The 580 has seen some price drops. Some nice ones too, on Newegg at least
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Yeah I looking all over online to buy one and it sold all everywhere.
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The gtx 680 sold out on newegg but on ebay have some with prices over $700 us, rofl.
People buy out Newegg to make a profit on ebay yes! That actually doesn't sound like a such a bad idea tho.....
Amazon has still yet to stock them so if you're looking to grab one asap, i advise u keep hittin F5 on amazon lol
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Give it a couple weeks, brahs. There will be enough for everyone.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Kepler-GeForce-GTX-680-GPU-Jen-Hsun-huang,15096.html
man showing love to employees n ting too oui
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Hmm was gonna get another 560 and go sli but this 680 is looking like the way forward as I like having a single card. Less power consumption??!! Always a plus!!
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And heres the sli review:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-sli-review/
Crysis 2:
2560*1600
DirectX 11
High Resolution Texture Pack
Ultra Quality settings
4x AA
Level - Times Square (2 minute custom time demo)
66 FPS? I think i found my new GPUs
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Thought it was the AC in work doing "that" to me. I was wrong. :banana:
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Another SLI review:
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1453/pg1/zotac-geforce-gtx-680-graphics-card-sli-performance-review-introduction.html
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Looking at the reviews tho, I'm still pressed to say that that 7970 still has some standing ground, not much, but some. Not in terms of the price of course, it NEEDS to drop since the 680 is outperforming it in most areas.
With a decent price drop though, it still possible that it may outsell the 680 as it does still offer comparative performance. But Nvidia did quite well, i must say. Now to see how their mid range cards look compared to that of AMD. That's were the sellers will be.
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Yup @ mid range cars. Process will undoubtedly change now to what makes sense so at the end of the day price/performance will ultimately win my money could be either still
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The one thing i'm impressed with is the fact that this new 680 card only uses two 6 pin connectors... i love it man
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BRHAHAHAHAHA
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-Edition-2xmDP-Graphics-FX797ATNFC/dp/B006Q4MPRA/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1332520039&sr=1-2
Can u say instant price drop? WAYEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Whoever buy one of these in d past 2 months mustbe cussing now.
The 7970 seem to be scaling better in crossfire than d 680 though.
But d 680 go still have d TPD and Heat over d 79s, but based on them prices i seeing on amazon now. thats no longer ah concern, waye, men eh stick nah, instant price drop ftw.
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$40? To me that was how it was a few days now, prior to the launch of the 680, i could be wrong of course. Still not a very good deal =/
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I doubt they concerned, you always run the risk of paying a premium when you adopt new tech early. as someone rightfully said before on this forum waiting on the next best thing on the world of computers is a fools errand, you'll be waiting forever
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http://www.amazon.com/Galaxy-GeForce-Express-Graphics-68NPH6DV5ZGX/dp/B007KFDFW8/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1332521819&sr=1-5
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Messiaah buy out Amazon stock one time yes! lol.
For one of the leading companies in online shopping, i find they're taking their merry time to get stock on this product you know -__-
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NVIDIA's GTX 680 tested in SLI and multi-display modes, loses some of its lead
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/03/gtx680sli.jpg)
Just hours after our review round-up of the new GeForce GTX 680 graphics card yesterday, a Dutch site has managed to test multiple cards in different (but invariably exorbitant) SLI modes. One of the strange things we learned during our hands-on was that SLI is complicated by NVIDIA's GPU Boost technology, which causes individual cards in the same chassis to run at different clock speeds depending on their load and temperature. Fortunately, Hardware.info reports no problems with SLI whatsoever, but it also concludes that the GTX 680 doesn't scale quite as well as AMD's Radeon HD 7970 in this type of niche setup. That changes if you throw down even more money on a 5760 x 1080 triple-display rig, in which case NVIDIA takes the lead in some games, but loses in others -- leaving the two rivals closer than the single-card reviews we looked at yesterday. If horizon-filling gameplay is your thing, don't give anyone thousands of dollars until you've checked out the source link.
Source (http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/2641/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-quad-sli-review-english-version)
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totally agreed @ fools errand.
It is smart to "pay" for the baby brother of the current best thing
the market leaders always do the hard and veiny tango with their flagship product.
The second tier offerings per gpu generation tends to be the bang for the buck champ.
Can't wait to see what sort of numbers they push.
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That is an awesome setup messiaah post there... Quad sli... But for persons like myself, the 650gtx is where its at. maybe even sli in the future
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEPL1SilkJ8&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLCDYVXiL-0&feature=player_embedded
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X79 Motherboards Don't Run GTX 680 in PCIe Gen 3
http://www.guru3d.com/news/x79-motherboards-dont-run-gtx-680-in-pcie-gen-3/
GeForce GTX 680 Full Cover Water Blocks
http://www.guru3d.com/news/geforce-gtx-680-full-cover-water-blocks/
EVGA first with custom GeForce GTX 680 cards
http://www.guru3d.com/news/evga-first-with-custom-geforce-gtx-680-cards/
GTX 680 Hydro Copper Classified (http://www.evga.com/articles/00669/#GTX680HydroCopper).......*drools*
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Can anyone dieses which gpu messiaah getting? I'll give a hint, its not a 79..
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Can anyone dieses which gpu messiaah getting? I'll give a hint, its not a 79..
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GPUs, plural.
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Mug of juice...salivates:
EVGA Water Block
Swappable Inlet/Outlet
Full Cover Block
.25mm x .35mm pin patrix for optimal thermal transfer
8+8 Power Design
14 Phase PWM Design
OC BIOS Mode
EVGA Backplate
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Well guess we go have to see how d ATI goes up on that .
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ZOTAC Working On GeForce GTX 680 with 2 GHz Core Clock Speed
http://www.guru3d.com/news/zotac-working-on-geforce-gtx-680-with-2-ghz-core-clock-speed-/
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its coming out really reasonable i believe like $500USD or something so...i was thinking to get one..will hav to do another overhaul again
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Just have to wait until Amazon get their stock but I shall see how things showcase themselves later on this year with options. Don't want any sudden issues suprising me either.....
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As discussed with awesome and notnice. Wait.
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http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26501-most-geforce-600-mobile-gpus-are-still-fermi
Most Geforce 600 mobile GPUs are still Fermi
Rebrands, Keplers comes later
We hoped that most new 600-series mobile Geforce will be based on the new, energy efficient Kepler architecture. Sadly, we were wrong and the series is still dominated by rebranded Fermi products.
The flagship GTX 675M is a Fermi, it is basically a renamed 580M posing as a new card. It still has the same 620MHz core clock, 384 Shader cores as well as texture fill rate of 39.7 billion a second. It uses 256-bit GDDR5 at 1500MHz clock enabling some 96 GB/sec throughput. The desktop GTX 680 has about double the bandwidth. The mobile GPU supports two-way SLI , but we don’t think you can even plug some more in that big gaming notebook, apart from some huge and heavy 17-inchers.
This is where it gets interesting. The GTX 670 and GTX 675 are Fermi based, while the GT 660M, 650M and the 640M are Kepler cards. The GT 640M LE will apparently come in Fermi and Kepler variants, but we haven’t got the details yet.
Moving down to the low end, the GT 635M, GT 630M and GT 620M are still based on Fermi. Last but not least is Geforce 610M, they are all simple rebrands to meet the launch of Ivy Bridge notebooks.
We were told that Kepler notebook parts will come soon, but probably synchronized with Ivy Bridge launch, or around that date. Ivy Bridge is still scheduled for 29th of April launch. Confusing? Indeed, the branding is a mess and anyone in the market for an Ivy Bridge notebook with discrete 28nm graphics should consult the internet before making a decision.
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That article ignored the single most important card the 650GTX
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Wait, so isn't the GTX 680 a Kepler based chip or no? I haven't read much about this new series yet. I did remember reading last year that they were to start shipping Kepler on the mobile platform then introduce it to desktop in the 700 series. O_o
I thought it was all rumour.
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Mobile 6 series is still based on Fermi architecture. 6 Series desktop is the new Kepler.
Very misleading advertising if you ask me. Uninformed masses are going to be buying mobiles with 6 series cards and feel they are getting performance in the same pedigree as the real thing. Booo nvidia.
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Nvidia has been doing this for years. Nothing to see here. Move along. :laughing7:
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I wouldn't doubt that.
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These ......
Is there a reason for this?? :|
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I can't think of a better way to get rid of the old chips.
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I can't think of a better way to get rid of the old chips.
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Pretty much i guess. Not only that but you also have the cost of developing the Mobile chips as well. The average laptop user doesn't care and for the avid gamer, they'll obviously do the research. AMD did it as well. The 7000-7560M are all rebranded cards from the 6000M. Which may have also been rebranded or slightly tweaked from the previous series. Only the upper-mid range to high performance cards will be based on the Kelper.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-fermi-kepler-gpu-graphics,15289.html
Nvidia Reportedly Prepping More Fermi Cards as 600-Series
5:00 PM - April 11, 2012 by Douglas Perry - source: Fudzilla
Rebadging old products with new names is a trend graphics cards buyers are used to.
Most recently, Nvidia confirmed that it will slap new labels on two old Fermi cards for OEMs who want to suggest that buyers are getting newer generation cards. If a report from Fudzilla is accurate, the rebranding will not be limited to OEMs, but reach retail and there may be another Fermi card that will join the Kepler ride as an unexpected guest.
Nvidia reportedly plans to rebrand the GeForce GT 440 (GF108), provide a BIOS update and sell it as the GT 630. Previously, Nvidia confirmed that the upcoming GeForce GT 605 and 620 are Fermi based (GT 510 and GT 520/GF108, respectively), while it now appears that there will also be a 610 model that is based on the GT520/GF119. Eventually you will see new cards in retail - the 610, GT 620, and GT 630 - all of which are labeled as 600-series cards, but are based on the old Fermi architecture.
The strategy behind this marketing decision appears to be a defensive move against integrated solutions from AMD and possibly even Intel's Ivy Bridge. There may be customers who are simply replacing an older card and they may not care what architecture they buy as long as the product in a retail shelf fits their price range. However, buyers who do basic research and consult Nvidia's product page may be tricked into believing they are buying a new product, while they are in fact purchasing last year's technology.
We contacted Nvidia for comment, but have yet to receive an answer.
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Ha!
What they really expect Nvidia to say...? :/
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/GTX580-GTX680-GTX590-Kepler-GeForce,15339.html
Report: Nvidia Stopping Production of GeForce GTX 580, 590
3:00 PM - April 16, 2012 by Doug Crowthers - source: SweClockers
With the success of the Kepler-based GTX 680 and more units slated for May and beyond, Nvidia's partner manufacturers have stopped production of the GTX 580 & GTX 590.
Information coming out of SweClockers states that Nvidia has reportedly stopped production of GeForce GTX 580 GPUs. Launched in November, 2010, the GeForce GTX 580 had been the fastest single-GPU graphics card until AMD responded with Radeon HD 7900 series over a year later. With the successful launch of the GeForce GTX 680 and more Kepler based GPUs slated in May, the GeForce GTX 580 has served its purpose to users around the world. The cards will remain in inventory until fully excused out in the market. Nvidia has already stopped production of GeForce GTX 590, with the rumored dual Kepler-based card already in the works.
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http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news/gainward-officially-launches-4-gb-geforce-gtx-680-phantom-a-dark-chilled-demon/
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Good LORD that's beastly, but that writeup was clearly done by someone who's not a native English speaker. Read it aloud... I DARE you not to laugh. :laughing7:
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NVIDIA unleashes GeForce GTX 690 graphics card, loads it with dual Kepler GPUs, charges $1k
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/04/mod-41397geforcegtx6903qtr-1.jpg)
GG
By Joe Pollicino posted Apr 29th 2012 12:57AM
Would you look at that? NVIDIA hinted it would be coming today, and it looks like the tease is living up to the hype. The company stormed into the weekend at its Shanghai Game Festival by unleashing its latest offering, the GeForce GTX 690 -- and oh yeah, it's packing two 28nm Kepler GPUs! Trumping the recently released GTX 680 as the "worlds fastest graphics card," it's loaded with a whopping 3,072 Cuda cores. The outer frame is made from trivalent chromium-plated aluminum, while you'll find thixomolded magnesium alloy around the fan for vibration reduction and added cooling. Aiding in cooling even further, the unit also sports a dual vapor chamber and center-mounted fan. It'll cost you a spendy $1,000 to pick up one these puppies come May 3rd, and you'll likely be tempted to double up -- two can run together in SLI as an effective quad-core card. With that said,NVIDIA claims that a single 690 runs 4dB quieter and handles about twice the framerate as a duo of GTX 680s in SLI -- impressive, but we'll reserve judgement until we see it for ourselves. check out the press release after the break if you'd like more information in the meantime (...and yes, it runs Crysis -- 2 Ultra to be exact -- at 57.8fps, according to NVIDIA).
Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/29/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-690-dual-kepler-gpu-graphics-card-announced/)
AndanTech (http://www.anandtech.com/show/5795/nvidia-unveils-geforce-gtx-690-dual-gk104-flagship-launching-may-3rd)
Toms Hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-690-gk104,3188.html)
*faints*
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Saw it yesterday. Not impressed. But wicked never the less. Good game nvidia.
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Man say not impressed yes, wah more yuh want, ah nuclear plant in yuh pc? lol.
Given nvidia past track record, this is very impressive, i doubt amd going to be able to beat that card. Nvidia strike gold with kepler oui.
I waiitng to see wah evga do wiht d hardware overvolted liquid cooled edition.
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Impressive specs no doubt, but at that price...?
Well...let's just say Nvidia will be keeping that. :/
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Waiting to see wah AMD price going to be.
Right now amd have better price and availability than kepler
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This card being twice as fast as two GTX 680's in SLI is wrong. Twice as fast as ONE 680 in a very selective benchmark (Heaven) is more like it.
Thinking about it logically, anyone can see that two downclocked 680's could never double up on performance on two full sized cards.
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Yea, that was an error in d engadget article.
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Yea I was rel wondering about that double fps remark, didn't make sense
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As o said not impressed. Wad expecting nvidia dyal gpu to be exactly that. The price. Well yes nvidia will keep that.
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Whilst MOST ppl will laugh off that price, hey as long as there are buyers with deep enough pockets to purchase the single most powerful dual gpu single card solution on earth (ftw) then hey I doh give em wrong, it's dollars and cents to them.
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Its a very good SLI on a stick solution...but depending on the individual, it will fail or take epic win for a variety of reasons.
Must admit though, if that proposed 1K price tag is to be believed, a LOT of people wanting SLI are going to want to take a bite, especially as two separate 680's cost more than that right now.
This is impressive because as far as I remember, historically, dual gpu cards have always worked out to be more expensive than two separate GPU's of the same pedigree.
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Well I did buy 2 680s. So this would of made sense to get right.
Wrong.... this cannot beat the dual PCB setup..
I am only pointing this towards the comment of double FPS...
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Of course to you and me a dual gpu card wont make sense opposed to two independent gpu's because of already stated performance limitations...however, 'speed' is not the only factor people may consider.
You have more convenience and less hassle with a single PCB card, less space taken up as well as lower noise levels and power consumption not to mention you have the people who wanna do a quad sli setup for a compact, money is no option beast rig.
So is it worth it? Depends...
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Being in the bracket of said statements. I will adhere to them yes. BUT, deep pockets and want to build an all out beast? Well that clearly sounds like 4 680s to me.. not a LIMITED 690 by 2.
Like you said. Depends....
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Chiney, ill bet u a gtx 680, that my Single 690 going to cut ur 2 680s ass :)
I'll await your reply before i jump into the discussion u and awesome have going.
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lets not go there..
especially since i kno we both going to be water cooling ....
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Man refuse d challenge, cool beans.
And i wont be water cooling, well, technically u could call it that.
Anyways, i go jump in.
Agreed with much of what Captain awesome say.
But to add.
A waterblock cost around 150-160.
Watercooling 2 680s vs 1 690 is an extra 160 yuh looking at off the bat.
That 160 could get put towards other aspects of the rig that will work together to increase overall performance. Also, like the 6970, the 690 has 2 full 680 cores.
And the SLI performance between those 2 cores will be higher than across 2 separate PCBs
Also, the heat output of 2 680s is significantly more than a single 690. But with water cooling, that is less of a issue, but u still have flow drop to consider. Which may not affect gpu temps, but will definitely affect CPU temps. If you going an independant loops for you GPUs u will avoid that. Power draw as mentioned by awesome is a key factor as well. Power bill going to be alot lower with a single 690 than double 680s.
A liquid cooled 690 will easily beat 2 air 680s. (which will run u about 1300$ vs 1150 for d LCS 690). But if u water cool d 680s, and spend money on minimizing all d overhead of a extra pcb. U go end up spending significantly more, to get d 680s to outperform d 690 overclock.
And ill argue, that if u take d money to illuminate said problems, and dump it behind, improved cpu/liquid setup. The overall performance of d 690 will cut d 680s ass.
Then there is space to consider. Right now on my sabertooth i cant even run a 2nd card, because my PCI-E ssd is in there. which will means a board with more PCI-E slots, and the $ keep rising and rising. When u could comfortably wtfpwn with a single 690.
All that said and done, if money is no object, and u could afford to shell out for independent loops, and still have d cache to beast out on every other component in d rig. Then d dual 680s MITE outperform it as a whole in real-world gaming performance. But seeing that d cores on d 690 is exactly d same, the theoretical over-clock threshold on both d 690 and 680s full cooled, will be d same. CPU and Memory clock is what will determine who machine cut more ass.
So is all about budget, and how best to spend it, to get d highest FPS in d end.
And liquid cooling 4 680s, vs 2 690s, is ah whole different ballgame all together.
Not to mention wont make any sense atal unless u running eyefinity.
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Well money being no object still sits well for 4 680s.
That person would obviously be in for the challenge as well
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I agree with all that you say there, except maybe for the 690 being able to match two 680's.
I have a feeling with the independent nature of the 680, you're gonna be able to push them further than two gpu's crammed together in one PCB.
Even though two gpu's on the same pcb, its still SLI tech bridging the two.
Still lets wait till the benchies come out to see.
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It does have ah dedicated chip on dem boards to handle d sli eh. My 4870 X2, 5970 and 6970 Had it. And watercooled and overclocked it was gettin on juss like ah pair of similar single cars.
2 Cards in SLI d PCI-E slots will run @ 8x, which = same 16x total a dual-cpu card go run at.
So that addresses bandwith and sli connectivity.
D only other factor i could see 2 cards will benifit from, is power draw. 4 * 8pin vs 2 on d 690.
And d only way to really benefit from said extra power, is if u bios overlock, actually not even that, if u capacitor mod / volt mod the gpu to draw significantly more current than stock, which is where d extra power go benefit the 2 680s vs single 690.
Drivers / Scalling is d only other thing to worry bout.
So once yuh eh volt-mod d card, i eh see no difference in d 2 solutions in terms of performance, once properly cooled and over clocked.
And ive also seen d chip on d dual cpu cards, d 6970 in particular, overclock futher in frequency, than d single card solution. Due to (what i think it is) hand picked chips for dual cpu boards, which get ah little bit more headroom, than d off-the-shelf single card chips, yuh coudl get lucky, or bad lucky with single cards, yuh card mite clock far, it mite not.
With d dual chip boards, yuh almost guaranteed epic overclocks, with them cherry picked chips.
Edit: Back in d day, dual cpus, d cpus itself was slower in frequency. But as of the 6970, is 2 real cores they put, fully unlocked, but factory downclocked to meet TPD, once u bypass that, GG. From what i read of d 690, its the same thing they do.
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I hear your points. Lets see if you're right come release day.
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Yep, acknowledged.
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Indeed, only time go tell. But check this out.
(http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=37726)
Watch how d MARS II getting on against 680 SLI.
D MARS II is a dual GPU on single PCB Card. With 2 580 cores Factory OCed.
Once u enter LCS and temps is no longer ah factor, DualGPU cards could throw down with the best of em.
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GeForce GTX 690 arrives in the Guru3D lab ...
By Hilbert Hagedoorn, May 2, 2012 - 2:57 AM N/A - 0 Comments
You have probably seen it on a couple of other selected websites already (our sample arrived a tad late), but NVIDIA is sending around the GeForce GTX 690 in a rather original way. A week prior to shipping out the card some press (including Guru3D) received a crowbar. To use against zombies or .... was marked on it.
Once we received the package with the card it all made sense, the card came in a wooden crate. Honestly I'm a sucker for for these things, and absolutely loved the idea. Though I doubt the crowbar made is through customs for everybody :)
(http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=39073)
(http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=39072)
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I LOVEEEEEEEEE that box!!!!!
Ah want one :(
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INDEED!
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On my word... I'm speechless
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1 More day left till reviews, cant wait!
"Before we go on, let’s get one thing straight: like the GTX 590 before it, the GTX 690 is a dual GPU card. But don’t allow this small fact dissuade you from reading further. As we will see on the upcoming pages, NVIDIA has designed the GTX 690 to be unlike any other card that’s come before it. Not only have top shelf materials been used but unlike previous generations, the GTX 690 has sidestepped the usual dual GPU limitation of reduced specifications. That’s right; there is a pair of fully enabled GK104 cores beating at its heart, all but ensuring its ascension the gaming market’s upper reaches."...source (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/53744-nvidia-geforce-gtx-690-preview.html)
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PC Perspective and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 Live Review - Thursday, May 3rd @ 1pm EDT
http://www.pcper.com/news/Editorial/PC-Perspective-and-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-690-Live-Review-Thursday-May-3rd-1pm-EDT
Ah Yes, lunchtime watch.
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sounds good!
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Would certainly like to see how the numbers add up on this one....
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And here we go!
Reviews:
Guru3D (http://www.guru3d.com/news/geforce-gtx-690-review/)
HardwareCanucks (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/53901-nvidia-geforce-gtx-690-review.html)
PCPerspective (http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-690-Review-Dual-GK104-Kepler-Greatness)
AnandTech (http://www.anandtech.com/show/5805/nvidia-geforce-gtx-690-review-ultra-expensive-ultra-rare-ultra-fast)
HardwareHeaven (http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1489/pg1/nvidia-geforce-gtx-690-dual-gpu-graphics-card-review-introduction.html)
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Epic
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Wow, very close to two 680's and as expected slightly slower. Very very nice job nvidia gg!!
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When TurboBoost kick in, i see no difference at all between 690 and 2 680s, d 690s even beat it in a few instances.
So just as i thought, performance wise, both solutions is the same, once turbo kicks in. And you still have manual overclocking to play with. They come boss, GG. (reading the rest of reviews now).
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Now finish my 2nd review.
Havent read each page of a review in a while, but ive just read the 27 page guru3d review, and now finish the pcperspective.
Good Grief this is a boss product. True SLI on ah stick.
Plus:
1. Better drivers than amd at the moment.
2. Better all-round scalling.
3. Lower TPD
4. Less Heat
5. GPU Boost Tech
6. Adaptive Vsync Tech (bess)
7. GeForce Experience (http://www.anandtech.com/show/5805/nvidia-geforce-gtx-690-review-ultra-expensive-ultra-rare-ultra-fast/4)
"For about the same cost, you can get either a GTX 690 or a pair of GTX 680s to run in SLI. There are some benefits to the GTX 690 though: you only use a single PCIe slot and only use two slots on your case, you have the capability to Quad SLI using only two cards, the noise levels are lower on the GTX 690, the power consumption is slightly better as well, you have fancy LED lights on top of your card so you can show everyone how awesome you are."
Need i say more? GTX 690 here i come!
Now the question is, wait on evga version wiht the liquid cooler built in, or rush it like ah green band maxi in port of spain, and buy waterblock later...decisions!
Edit:
Important:
It’s worth noting that because NVIDIA is using a 3rd party PCIe 3.0 bridge here that they’ve opened up PCIe 3.0 support compared to GTX 680. Whereas GTX 680 officially only supported PCIe 3.0 on Ivy Bridge systems – specifically excluding Sandy Bridge-E – NVIDIA is enabling PCIe 3.0 on SNB-E systems thanks to the use of the PLX bridge. So SNB-E system owners won’t need to resort to registry hacks to enable PCIe 3 and there doesn’t appear to be any stability concerns on SNB-E with the PLX bridge. Meanwhile for users with PCIe 2 systems such as SNB, the PLX bridge supports the simultaneous use of PCIe 3.0 and PCIe 2, so regardless of the system used the GK104 GPUs will always be communicating with each other over PCIe 3.0.
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for $2000.00USD?
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for $2000.00USD?
Huh?
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ebay and their over excited first prices
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A pretty impressive monster, I like the fact that they continue to make these cards use less power and produce less heat.
As always peeps need to note the resolution that they play at when choosing that new gpu.
I play at 1920X1200 so everyone can observe accordingly (not like most of y'all don't know this :P )
Now I wanna see if the GTX 670 is gonna hit the sweet spot for potential upgrade later down this year for me and if to venture into sli with two of em of course after comparing bang for buck!!
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for $2000.00USD?
ebay could suck ah egg with those prices.
@Red: 2 670s mite cost d same as a 680 and perform the same. Kepler's architecture is so efficient, it kinda defeating d purpose of sli oui, unless u want to go 3-way sli, otherwise, juss going with the next card up in the chain will gain you same performance @ same price with less hassle.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rFYAKI-1u4
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single slot 670's are in the works, if the rumors are true thats 4x sli easy! either way the 670 looks to be a winner
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4715/nvidia_geforce_gtx_670_2gb_video_card_overclocked_performance_preview/index.html
screw the 7970 or 680, 670 sli
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GeForce GTX 670 2 and 3-way SLI review
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-670-2-and-3way-sli-review/
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Read that long time!!!! BAW!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/10/nvidia-geforce-gtx-670-review-round-up/
the round up there
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My wallet is not as deep as some of you, at least for a new gpu. I'm waiting on gtx 650
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Sadly, people rushing these cards at those ridiculous prices, so people (like me) who waiting on price drops (and coin, for that matter :laughing7: ),
have a a very long wait ahead of them... but yeah I no longer desire them 7950s, unless AMD does something really drastic with the price of course. :happy0203:
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Them 670s look very attractive i wont lie.
200$ less for virtually d same performance as 680 SLI oui. Even at high resolutions.
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/2725/nvidia-geforce-gtx-670-review-plus-sli-and-3-way-sli
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I almost feel like a sucker for getting the 680's, where a mini, less power hungry version is nipping very closely on his big brother's heels.
Nvidia, wth? How do you justify charging $100 for 2fps more???
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size
power
oh my
gg nvidia
i`ll keep the 680s though
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Boy i was thinking 3 670s, but 3way sli not scaling nearly as good as dual, and it also have worse performance in a couple games. I still deliberating. :)
BTW, who responsible for updating the 3Dmark ladders, capt. should be wineing on 1st place all now. Need to bolt out d current holders and crown d new king.
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NVIDIA GK110 surfaces -- has 2880 Shader processors
http://www.guru3d.com/news/gk110based-surfaces--has-2880-shader-processors/
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that nvidia company reminds me of women....
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that nvidia company reminds me of women....
How so?
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NVIDIA GK110 surfaces -- has 2880 Shader processors
http://www.guru3d.com/news/gk110based-surfaces--has-2880-shader-processors/
I was reading about this earlier on another site. Consumer versions of this card would probably be awesome in specs, not to mention PRICE! I say about $850us a pop.
Those are also probably a year or more away from being available in the form of a consumer ge-force product anyway, just in time for my next video card upgrade! (remember these are specs for enterprise class gp-gpu parts)
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If is 1 year away, that eh make sense to wait. But if is this year, it just mite.
Go see what news leak out next week.
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women always pissing you the #$%^ off.. lol
nvidia just lookin for shoot
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lol.
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I was reading this review / comparison of the GTX670:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/05/14/geforce_680_670_vs_radeon_7970_7950_gaming_perf/3 (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/05/14/geforce_680_670_vs_radeon_7970_7950_gaming_perf/3)
I'm getting the urge to post a couple of red cards in the trading grounds and go green!
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Go green go green!!!
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-kepler-gk104-Launch-release-date,16275.html#xtor=RSS-998
The Internet rumor mill has turned up another new Nvidia card.
The GK104-based GTX 660Ti is apparently slated for an H1 August launch and debut with a suggested price of $299.
According to Wccf Tech, the new card will arrive with seven active SMX units, 1,344 processing cores and 1.5 GB memory. The clock speed will below the clock speed of the 670 card, but the performance will be, according to the site, above the GTX 580 and directly competing AMD Radeon 7800 cards.
Wccf Tech also noted that the GTX 660Ti will be Nvidia's last GK104 card and the company will be transitioning to the 700 series going forward. At a price of $299, the 660Ti makes a lot of sense below the $399 670 and the $499 680 cards.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Evga-GTX_660_Ti-GeForce-Kepler-gpu,16453.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-kepler-gk107-gtx650-gpu,16541.html
Finally! News on the 650 and 660 ti! Woot!
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Ah but I'm still gonna get myself a 670 >:D
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Yeah but where the 660Ti GTX or whatever it will be called?
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Yeah but where the 660Ti GTX or whatever it will be called?
first link sir
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massive quantities of epic win detected!
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/geforce-660ti-nvidia-graphcis-card,16631.html
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-benchmark-review,3279.html
Its FINALLY here folds. Not bad. Was expecting it to be slightly better than AMD's 7870 but its more or less on par for the same price. Not bad at all.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_364666042_3?ie=UTF8&docId=1000824421&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=top-1&pf_rd_r=73ED9F6981D142E2AB81&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_p=1389924562&pf_rd_i=gtx%20660%20ti
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Yeah was looking at a review of the 660 ti that they had OC'ed and it is quite the bang for the buck.
Hopefully I get my replacement 670 tom and can continue to enjoy how sweet this series from the green team is!!!
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price tag on that 660ti is ballz
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Define 'ballz'.
'Ballz' because 3 660s can be had for LESS than the price of TWO 680s? (...and you KNOW where the performance stacks up)
...or just 'ballz' overall? :laughing7:
Your 680 tears...I can taste them. (troll)
After comparing benchmarks and reviews, I don't want no 670s again.
$100 US x 2 for 10-15% more performance overall? No thanks.
This card has now made the 670 price 'ballz' in my opinion.
Its the same 'enthusiast-level' GPU in the 670 and 680.....for a 'mainstream' price?
Put me down for TWO please. :)
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The cards real powerful for the price stop hatin chinee.
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I predict many a system poping up on the forum with this boss card!
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hating cuz nvidia prices starting to get out of hand
total ballz
the 660 supposed to be in the affordable range just like they have done in the past..
however..nvidia wants to dominate so bad..they didnt think about users with shallow pockets....
arcman boy.. soon i wont even have any more 680s
i`m fedup of them already... time for something new
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-690-4GB-DDR5-PCI-E-Graphic-Video-Card-NEW-04G-P4-2690-KR-/190709660457?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2c672e7b29
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Considering the card's predecessor i.e. the 560 ti, is STILL $220 - 250 USD there about, I dont think Nvidia's concern was about dominating but puttin forward a contender to the HD 7800 cards.
I think the 660 ti is well priced given the price range its contending. The HD 7870 is within a 5-10% range higher in performance other the 660 and is priced right at $300 USD. Ideally it should sell for less but the Nvidia fan boys would take the green over red no? I would just based on driver issues to be quite honest although AMD has stepped up their game about the drivers, for now at least.
The 670 on the other hand could do with a price slash
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nope
dont agree with you
the 670 is well priced based on performance......
not the 660..
then again, thats just my opinion eh
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I recall something along the lines of the 670 is at most 25% more performance at 35% more price... or something such, trick is ALL the cards regardless of manufacturer seemed priced right (when compared against each other and themselves) in terms of their relative performance. I would LOVE to get a 670, however that 400USD+ pricetag is just too bitter for me to swallow even though I rather 1 fast card vs. 2 slower cards in xfire/SLI. I am atm debating the 7870 vs the 660 as they are both within spitting distance of each other in terms of performance and whats important to me isn't their best performances but rather their performance at the level I would game at. 1920x1080 is the res monitor I have at present and that isn't going to change too soon unless LED monitors come down in prices (something else that isn't moving atm). So once I can get 60+ frames on the titles I am interested in consistently on 1080p, I really couldn't care if its 10 or 25% faster, definitely not at 35% more in price. It's dollars and SENSE.
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The GTX 660s are out, and the prices are nice (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_365305482_3?ie=UTF8&docId=1000832461&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=top-1&pf_rd_r=1FEBFAD065BD4997BD2A&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_p=1396851342&pf_rd_i=GTX%20660).
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The GTX 660s are out, and the prices are nice (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_365305482_3?ie=UTF8&docId=1000832461&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=top-1&pf_rd_r=1FEBFAD065BD4997BD2A&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_p=1396851342&pf_rd_i=GTX%20660).
From reviews, the Asus model seems to be one of the better choices. A few fps behind the 660Ti cards at half the power draw (theoretically considering the 660's use 1 6 pin supplemental only as opposed to the Ti versions' dual 6 pin).
Very good buy imho.
The GTX 650 is a big disappointment though, seems that is the budget line.
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Nvidia come rel good this rounds boy.
Kepler series of GPUs are awesome.
Good hardware, Good software.
Adaptive VSync is brilliant and works as advertised. One of my best features of kepler thus far.
And EVGA Precision X is ah boss of ah program too.
Nvidia Adaptive VSync Review: (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/04/16/nvidia_adaptive_vsync_technology_review)
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Not bad at all, makes sense and is a welcome addition to the improve by quality not just quantity idea. I wonder what AMD will come up with to match this feature...
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I wondering d same thing, because playing rage that was a big issue for me. Because rage had massive tearing, so i HAD to put on vsycn, but never understood why d heck my fps drop was so huge on such a powerful machine. That review explained exactly why. So now i'm in-love with Adaptive Vsycn.
AMD betters implement a comparable feature in their driver set and soon.
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Interestingly enough I went 'googling' right after I read that article and it appears triple buffering used natively with xfire and SLI is supposed to make this a non-issue... (I guess save if the drivers for that particular game aren't optimized)
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What you mean by "natively", provide d link to that article.