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Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: Bourbon_Ghost on October 15, 2004, 10:43:41 AM
I not sure if this post up but if its plz tell me.
The budget for the year2004/2005 is a pack of nonsense and
yet if you can calculate the difference between importing and local
items you'll notice u spend around the same amount of money
u spend every month! *stueps  [_[

Am I right?

                     
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: QDizzle on October 15, 2004, 11:05:27 AM
WHAT???????
Dude most of these things not even goin an take effect until mid november                    
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: Bourbon_Ghost on October 15, 2004, 01:02:46 PM
Um QDizzle who u talking to?

Anyways i talking about the consumer 's pocket expense
so what nosense you talking about yuh ain't go feel it until mid-november? [_[                    
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: strongton on October 15, 2004, 03:56:34 PM
it helps rich plp, come on, since when split peas is a staple???                    
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: DeadEyes on October 15, 2004, 04:53:59 PM
Doesn't do sh!t and as usual the money goes into the ministers pockets.... where is the F@#IN MC INTERCHANGE?                    
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: o'neilll on October 15, 2004, 07:34:51 PM
THE BUDGET THIS YEAR CATERS FOR THE LOWER INCOME GROUPS(THEY SUPPOSEDLY DRINK MAUBY AND COCOA).LOWERING THE TARRIF ON IMPORTED CHICKEN AND TURKEY(WHO EATS TURKEY?) WILL ONLY HELP IN THE SHORT RUN. PRICES WILL GO UP. THE GOV'T SHOULD HAVE GONE TO THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM; HIGH CHICKEN FEED PRICES AND A MONOPOLY OF SUPPLIERS, BY PROMOTING LOCAL FARMERS OR PRICES OF CORN&FEED. BY THE WAY HOW DO I JOIN A CLAN? AND DO U ALL WANT TO COME MY TOURNAMENT? :D
SO GUESS WHAT. THE BUDGET AFFECTS U, U TWIT! :blink:
                     
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: TrinireturnofGamez on October 15, 2004, 08:51:02 PM
I eat turkey... turkey is good.....


 the budget is just a rehash of all the others, dropping prices on a few items won't help .   Remember the government preaching transparency? Why is it that we still have no clue HOW those ministers qualify for their positions, and that they make decisions without parlimentary approval?  How come CARLOS JOHN's house gets raided and not Patrick mannings????                      
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: coldstorm on October 15, 2004, 09:01:57 PM
actually almost all minster in caribbean are not qualified for the postion they are put into . minster are normally lawyer so they hide behind litigation so they ain't do they mc job and does profit from it more than people who suppose to be profitting the common people
                     
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: wesleigh on October 18, 2004, 08:43:16 PM
dat is tru coldstorm...dey should have some kinda constitutional basis on which dese ministers are chosen other than age,how on earth can u reshuffle cabinet all willie nillie like dat, dat doh make sense even self u wanna keep the electroal MPs as cabinet members let us know if it have somebody runnin de show who more capable.
de budget does affect us u know we just wouldnt see it right away of course. budgets usually take years to take general effect.tings like raisin d wage limit and pension by a lil bit is good because changes like dat have to be gradual or else we go end up like argentina
                     
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: SPK on October 19, 2004, 12:41:06 AM
Well raising the minimum wage won't change much if everything else keeps on going up u know...just an observation.                    
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: DeadEyes on October 19, 2004, 09:00:31 AM
i honestly believe this couintry needs an overhaul in terms of the management of the top, a new party...a new direction                    
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: Bourbon_Ghost on October 19, 2004, 09:39:51 AM
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Well raising the minimum wage won't change much if everything else keeps on going up u know...just an observation.
^^^ I totally agree with what SPK saying I mean what yuh really trying to prove?  :angry:  [_[


(p.s: SPK yuh is a darn arcade freak hoss [_[ )                    
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: DeadEyes on October 19, 2004, 09:44:06 AM
that's like dropping the tarriff on chicken, then they say that increases in everthing else is going to make it stay at the price it is...who are they trying to fool?
                     
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: Bourbon_Ghost on October 19, 2004, 12:19:08 PM
^^^themselves is my best guess :(                    
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: DeadEyes on October 19, 2004, 01:22:49 PM
nah ghost is d rest of the country they fooling, promoting a set of segregation so the people fight themselves and are blinded to the true shit that's happening. misdirection is their forte                    
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: Bourbon_Ghost on October 20, 2004, 01:11:24 PM
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nah ghost is d rest of the country they fooling, promoting a set of segregation so the people fight themselves and are blinded to the true shit that's happening. misdirection is their forte

Me???

Just because I have....26....first places (for now), doesn't make me an arcade freak
"misdirecton" they gone playing "jihad" these flipping parliamentarians....
(not sure if it is a word) darn

SPK just give the rest of us a chance plz.....i have to look half way down the just to see u make a post.......geez :ph34r:                      
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: wesleigh on October 20, 2004, 03:11:59 PM
alyu mad orwa u have to raise d minimum wage by a little because if u do it by alot at one time dat will cause an imbalance]]]it go lead to it havin in a sense no low income group and den u go see d price of all de necessities rise to suit and den is not only de lower income who go start to feel it it go be d whole general econmy]]]den u gos ee ppl start to raise de wage payments and den when dat happen is higher income group who go be better off because their increases tend to be the largest]].soon money go be worth nuttin like in argentin ah tell yu ...dem was payin allkinda 2000 for a 3.10 loaf and ting
Real $hit cud happen

i aint sayin manning move like a boss i sayin dey hadda be careful up dere                    
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: DeadEyes on October 20, 2004, 03:42:59 PM
simple solution... increase the tax brackets on the upper end of the economy, not business tax cause they will use that as an excuse to increase product costs again, and utilize the industries properly. we have asphalt, and shitty roads, we have telecommunications that takes almost a year to get a land line. decrease the ministers salaries and HAVE QUATERLY OR BIANNUAL audits on ministers expenditures etc, just to name a few                    
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: Bourbon_Ghost on October 21, 2004, 02:57:30 PM
^^^ the only thing is it never really simple......... :(
                     
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: vinion2000 on October 23, 2004, 03:02:22 AM
Look it eh as simple as you guys yapping dread. as wesleigh  
 say its all about a balance. there are 2 trains of thoughts. tax the upper bracket and free up the lower which in turns generates more gov't income as well as frees up the lower bracket. yet with this train come a cargo cart. that is to say taxing the rich means they spend less and invest less which hurts business and the overall economy. so most governments tax the middle & lower classes and some of the upper. its sounds heartless but it works efficiently.

taxing or restricting business adversely harms the economy so for everyone to survive overall the rich must stay rich. its a harsh reality. doing things like raising wages and COLA and reducing taxes on lower incomes not only reduces gov't income but raises business cost which either lead to unemployment or a raise in the cost of consumer goods. its just simple business.

yet as ppl we dont care about economics, businesses or figures we want tangibles. its sad how a couple of paved roads and some new schools are the measurement of fiscal success. concidering that in some carribean countries things we consider normal are often luxuries. we are a nation who can afford $1500 shoes and clothing. where kids can spend $100 on a yugi-oh cards. where computers and internet are no longer luxuries but normal. houses being built all over the place and they getting filled.

i eh saying that some ppl eh suffering day to day and others just living hand to mouth. yet you have to realise how well off trinidad is economically.  

trinidad had a 4.5% real gdp growth as at 1/1/2004. thats 65th largest in the world. that makes our gdp $10.6 billion us. more than any other caribbean country.
trinidad has a $9,600 gdp per capita (ie the average income per person )
21% of trinidadians are below the poverty line. compared that  to USA which is 12% or UK 17%.
we have a 10.7% unemployment rate which is the lowest in the caribbean.

so be glad yuh get a good news budget whether or not it politically motivated. id love to see next year figures cause with the oil boost it should go up even more.                    
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: Mugsy on October 23, 2004, 11:18:38 PM
Actually bourbon raisin the minimum wage while the prices goin up going tuh change a lot. Wha u jus describe there is inflation and raisin the minimun wage jus tuh make the party look good could cause serious unemployment and even cause greater inflation.

(hmmm i now remember i have econ essays to hand in b4 the smester done, oh well)                      
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: Bourbon_Ghost on October 27, 2004, 10:14:17 AM
ok ....hmmmn..i think i understand what u saying but,
i don't think at all that the party looking good                    
Title: Who does the budget really Affect?
Post by: DeadEyes on October 27, 2004, 10:51:38 AM
ain't that the truth, and now even more crap is happening.                    
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