Carigamers
Off Topic => Ole Talk => Politics & Soap Box Rants => Topic started by: Bourbon_Ghost on January 28, 2005, 04:22:21 PM
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hmm... not sure i should put up this, but it is a high controversy topic and fits in nicely.... :unsure: .... however, no disrepect :angry: will be tolerated towards the RELIGION.
Please state your theories only no matter how absurd and do remember they are only theories and or statements, unless u have factual information plz i repeat pl contain yourselves.
P.S: Any statements written that i find inconclusive to the topic will be deleted and the mem will be warned. THANK YOU & HAVE A NICE DAY :D
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I have a strange feeling he is going 2 get away.....
men in that kind of position and power ususally end up free men...
However, i think we would all like 2 see justice served and him put 2 jail if he is guilty.
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i agree with carlsberg
i say he might unfortunately get away :(
i mean de man staged a failed coup and yet he is still a free man ?
tell me how this is a right thing ?
if he is guilty i sincerely hope he gets wat he deserves
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ONLY in Trinidad.
It's more than likely that this a*****e will get away, just like he did after staging a coup that took so many lives and destroyed so many businesses (my dad's being one of them).
He did, however, force a pardon from the President when he held a gun to the then-Prime Minister A.N.R. Robinson's head, so he got away on a legal loophole, the son of a b***h. And, chances are, he's going to get away on a blasted loophole again.
PERSONAL OPINION:
Though I'm never one to wish ill upon anybody, I hope he dies in a car accident. It'll be MORE than what he deserves.
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Even with dubyuas lack of common sense on his posts and use of language in his post, I will agree with him about the topic, who in T&T in their RIGHT MINDS would rule to put him away? unless u don't value ur health or ur family's health.
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Well,remember they DID get Dole convicted.
This is a different kettle but the fact is that powerful men have been put away before.
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to be totally biased (which is unlike me as you all know) but the bakar issue is one that get to me, to me anyone who tries to take the country over and cause so much havoc should have been hung in a public showing in woodford square.
And not be free and able to admit that they are part of the kidnappings in the country.
Hang them all high!
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D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-unit
d original Dubya iz back on d scene.
no likle EDITED mod suzpension gonna phaze me this rounds
Bakar gona get off just like he bwoy Dubs
Jamaat & Blak Clan 4 Life!!!
W1nTry: You don't learn do you.
You insensitive bastard.
If you think something that caused the loss of so many businesses and hell, freaking LIVES is nothing but a mere joke to you, then you don't deserve respect of ANY kind.
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Calm down Neo, as have been seen thus far, dubuya is here to do nothing of merit, as for Split, I agree with you on the public hangings although it should be with a entrance fee to somewhere like the oval so that the proceedings raised can go towards the families of those who have lost their lives or livelihoods becuase of said persons. To be honest the easy way out would have been to bring in feds or something, that trial wouldn't be a trial kinda the reverse of what it is now, it'd just be, ok we doh need a trial we like to hang terrorists where I come from, just send him up we'll take over from there. Ah well too bad I guess.
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Ever thought about what you all say?
Hang someone in a public square? So everyone could come and wittness a killing / justice ent.....
I believe in justice being served but why anyone would want to watch someone die is beyond me. Worst yet let's hang him in the Oval, how about right before the Trinidad vs USA match and save on renting the oval and that would be a next $5000 to go to the victims families. And we could all walk with our camera's and take pics of our first killing to show our grand kids.
My Take on it though, I think the man is a mad man, and from talking to him in person I'd rather not have him around me. And I don't believe that wittness go survive too much longer.
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I was thinking the same thing. For someone to actually go out and speak against him that requires balls. I was also thinking he aint gonna be alive much longer.
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he probably wont be sent to jail, the authorities fear his power! they fraid him! pressure!
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If he is convicted he'll probably get to serve his term like Pablo Escobar got to when he was 'jailed' in Colombia.
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alya playaz duz be rel harsh on meh scenez
C wha happon 2 dose who disrezpect d Jamaat
Gun shot fo so! Plotoye!
If you don't have anything worth while to say, shut the hell up.
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Normally i say "Calm down Neo", but this idiot has to get what's coming to him.
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The sad thing is that Abu Bakr may even pull a fast one and sue over this whole thing, and get some more $$$ to aid his cause....
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He'll get off, the jury is operating under an implicit threat.
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Can you prove that? if so please inform Timothy Cassel so he can get a retrial
But from the evidence I have seen, once the state can prove the key witness was in the same place as Bakar on the day the murders were comissioned, they have a pretty good chance on a convition. But their case hangs upon this lynchpin.
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I hate that it happened but the defense did well with those cell phone records.
Very sloppy by the police and Cassel.We have a blasted QC for nothing.
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Ok firstly & foremost Dubya simmer down plz [_[ (thanks for cleaning up the thread Neo) i don't now u rally but u are definely a n00b on the forumns and though it seems u are a muslim or supporter i doubt the lata, u are making some very stupid remarks and also very insultive [_[ . On with the topic:
As it is, i am personally related to Abu Bakr or his given name which i doubt some of u know is Lennox Phillips. I am not nor have i ever been to a Mosque and so forth.
I would also like to correct cereal in the beginning, where he stated that the coup was a failure.....I think that is statement could be inaccurate (no pun intended cereal) because of certain as u notice he is still walking around free and making money off of it. As some of your'll may know "Abu" was a policeman himself before, and a high one at that. So respect/fear is definetly a factor in this trial and because of his overwhelming supporters i believe he will get off free probaly with at most a years confinement to a residence of his choice......hmm...ok lets take it from there i have more to say but i want your veiws :)
P.S: Dubya keep out of the moderators eyes :) plz!
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under all dis ole talk
i remember de days when dey used to flikkin hang for treason.
swing dat beatch from a tree of our choice.
My friends father was killed in the red house when they stormed to take uncle robby.
My boy never gotten over it an his family in a state ever since.
Swing dat beatch, charge admission we.
Curly, i respect yu for yu somewhat legendary status in gatt, buh yu being kinda unpatriotic about an issue that is pretty hard to fight down.
He duck justice before, and hopefully he will get it now.
I say we call in Daddy castro and let him take this flikkin dissadent off we hands.
Once again, swing dat beach.
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I say we call in Daddy castro and let him take this flikkin dissadent off we hands.
A man after my own heart....lol
I fully agree with the Socialist sentiments Crixx. But I don't think the majority of the populace will be applicable to that discourse. As long as the desire for wealth is the driving force of humanity that is.
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well to be quite honest it was an act of treason, and last time i checked treason was punishable by death under her majesty's law. other than that i agree with the sentiments majorly expressed here that he will go free, and as papasmurf rightly said imo as long as the pursuit of money and power continues to be driving force of the populace, people like this will continue to be welcomed and a place made for them. But as curly said also, i don't agree with the admission thing
if he's gonna be hanged do it and get it over with, no gross public displays to feed the fury of the mob
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punishable by death under her majesty's law
We achieved independence in 1962. In doing that we attempted to say "Her majesty and all her laws can kiss our @r$e". However we retained the Privy Council as our final appelate court and thus an arm of our state. In other words England and her Queen are telling us "You may be independent.....but I'm Rick James, B!TCH!"
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Crixx - justice is not hanging a man in a public display, in the oval or putting a man out and letting the public throw rocks at him..... the days of that done.
that was my most serious objection.
In the past Mr. Man get off because our laws accomodate pardons etc. just like people does use the system to get what they want.... layers do it, doctors do it taxi drivers do it. everyone does it at some point or the other.
Everyone was upset after he terrorize the country and walk.... but anybody ever stand up and say... well hear what nah.... my family was done a great injustice in this thing... and I going to insist that they change the laws so it don't happen again.
Everybody continue bout life... government change laws stay the same, everybody just want they road pave before elections.
Now the man on trial and even thought you think he guilty the justice system allows him to be innocent until proven guilty, and I'm sure if you were in a court case and you were innocent you'd be glad to know that it's not about you trying to convince beyond a doubt that you innocent.
If the police did they job right the man will get sentance....
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u tink tha go stop true gangstas Like meh bwoy in GTA say
Groove street OG's 4 LiFE Homie!!!!!!!!
If u wanna stop d crime we needz 2 go bak to Islamic lawz. Choppin off man han an ting. Only den u go find tingz changin. Da is wha Uncle Abu wuz tryin to do. Just lookin out for u an me Thaz all
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Your 'Uncle Abu' also caused the deaths of several innocent civilians, cops just trying to do their jobs, people's livelihoods as well as A.N.R. Robinson's self-esteem. Oh, and let's not forget about the time 'Uncle Abu' took an entire TV station and all of the hard working people there hostage. Oh, and who could forget the time our favorite local terrorist 'Uncle Abu' placed a gun to the head of the then-Prime Minister, and forced a presidential pardon out of Mr. Hassanali? Did Uncle Aboo-boo tell you that? No? Probably because people like you have their heads so firmly shoved up this guy's rectum, that's WHY.
1990 will be a day that shall live forever in infamy, all because of 'Uncle Abu'. Long story short, if you want to stop crime, YOU DON'T DO S**T LIKE THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE AND TAKE THE LAW INTO YOUR OWN HANDS.
If you want to sympathise with a bona fide terrorist like Abu Bakr, that's all fine and dandy, peachy keen. You believe want you want to believe. Just don't come here and try to convince us otherwise. Not that you can, DUBYA, because, like your old account, this account is BANNED. Nice try. :)
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Bwaahhahaaha
Oh yes Neo....that pic rel crack me up. This little newb is kicks oui.
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neo you a man songing like if the system bad u will stay with it and waut for somebody else to do it man just try to chnage the system innocent people will most of the time get catch in the cross fire of a revolution.
u going on like u would be vex with the army for trying to take over the country in 70's because the government was doing crap
up risings happen when people do crap the reason why abu fail cause he did not have the people support the reason why the 70 up rising fail because they blow up a bridge
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No. I did it because Dubya's acting like a moron.
Besides which, YOUR dad didn't lose his entire business in the coup, did he?
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neo you a man songing like if the system bad u will stay with it and waut for somebody else to do it man just try to chnage the system innocent people will most of the time get catch in the cross fire of a revolution.
interesting perspective.....One man's terrorist is another's Freedom fighter...
Also accepted is the notion that much losses and violence must be endured during the onset of a revolution. And revolutions only happen when the masses are unbearingly unable to live in the old manner.
However, i question the motives of Abu Bakar in the 1990 coup attempt. I summise that it was more for his and the Jamaat Al muslimeen's benefit than for the rest of the nation. More self interest than national interest being displayed on his part. Thus, I don't think i would put him in the same category as Washington, Robspierre, Lenin, Castro & other revolutionaries. He's more at home with Kim JongII, Sadam Hussein, Robert Mugabe, R. Kelly etc
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Besides which, YOUR dad didn't lose his entire business in the coup, did he?
no he did not just car tire and rims but i am not going to be vex with the man and want him to die death is does be to easy a punishment for men who sometimes doh care. but if u want revenge so be it just be more blood shed later cause his people will want revenge then people like u who family get hurt will want revenge and it will just keep going on thats why there will really never be peace on this world
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True, but you have to admit that Abu Bakr has to pay, in one way or the other, for his crimes. There's absolutely no way a man like him should get off scot-free after what he and his band of men did.
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no he should not get away free he should pay back evrybody who he has destroyed physically and ementaly but it is unnlikely he put to much fear in to the goverment
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hmm... I find that last comment interesting why would u think, besides the obvious of course?
...and i do sympathise with Neo, but i agree with OVMan "an eye for an eye is not the way"
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maybe so
But when judging ppl of a certain religion, wouldn't it be proper to judge them by their own law too? eg, if they ketch u thiefin in El Socorro they chop off yr hand. Ewwwwww
Imagine what bakr will get for conspiracy to murder :-)
:lol:
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^^^ good point eh Striker.... :sigh:
but seeing that these are the days of modern times and how laws
seldom help the "poor" :( and the "rich" get off scott free who's
to say? :huh:
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"The Poor are crazy, the rich are eccentric"
I believe that's what u are trying to say.
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"The Poor are crazy, the rich are eccentric"
I believe that's what u are trying to say.
indeed
can anyone give me an update on the status of this? he in jail yet?
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no he is not in jail...and i very much doubt that we will even be near one soon the way the "so-called investigator" handled stuff.
i mean he singled handl probaly lay waste to what would have been a hard evidence case...which unfortunately brings us to right where we started :sigh:
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We'll know by this week....the jury has the case
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I'm stunned.Really.
That three people actually held strong to their 'guilty' verdicts.I thought he'd get a full acquittal.
I guess Cassell will be sticking around for a while longer.
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Now boys and girls show by raise of hands how many of u didn't see that this was NOT GOING ANY $#&INGWHERE but to waste our tax payers dollars to pay some high profile EXPENSIVE NO @$$ lawyer so he could make a mint off our sorry @$$es. *sighs*.... come on noone and I mean NOONE expected him to be convicted. As for the 3 guilty, I am sure thats arranged so the prosecution doh look TOO STUPID. Its ALL PR BS. BAKAS all of them. i say CHARGE them for being STUPID and WASTING OUR money.
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I'd rather see a QC representing the state than some nobody fresh out of law school.
It's a high profile case,it requires high profile representation by the state.
When the US had Clinton,who was the number one?Ken ****ing Starr.
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A mistrail isn't the same as an acquital
have some faith that justice will be done
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oh and i think the answer for for "nobody fresh out of law school. It's a high profile case,it requires high profile representation by the state" means just that they looking too get props and too stupid too realise what they be getting themselves into, thats my guess anyways :huh: