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Off Topic => Ole Talk => Politics & Soap Box Rants => Topic started by: W1nTry on November 23, 2005, 03:42:27 PM
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I agree with everything this guys says, its a pretty interesting read:
Back off censors – we’re close to the edge
Column And we know where you live
By Marc Ninthly: Wednesday 23 November 2005, 12:00
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DOES ANYONE else think that that computer games are possibly being made a scapegoat for the world’s ills? As reported on yours truly this very day, it seems that the responsibility for our kids’ health (mental and physical) is increasingly being foisted on games developers, publishers, content providers etc. I always thought parents had a role to play in what their kids did on computers – at least at home – but these days a growing number of them are slow to monitor and quick to speed dial a solicitor when the s**t hits the fan.
Now, I’m not naïve. There is no way to know what kids are up a lot of the time. After all, most of the crap I pulled was done outside of the home or at friends’ houses. But as 2005 comes to a close, there has been a disturbing trend of games being turned into the whipping post for all psychotic behaviour. If someone kills someone else over a virtual weapon in a game, then that person was a ticking bomb waiting to go off.
The player in question was playing an online game called Lineage II, and trust me, this is no gory, ultra-violent first person shooter that cranks up your aggression levels. This guy was just waiting to pop. If it wasn’t this minor incident it would have been any number of other significant conflicts experienced in real life. The coverage of the story however glamorised the fact that he killed someone for an in-game item and what that says about games. Cue the ranting, feverish control mob. Not once did the fact that he was obviously disturbed, regardless of the trigger, come into play.
If someone dies playing a video game – which they have, rarely – it is often down to exhaustion. Once it happens though, it is on every single newspaper and TV channel, which leads inevitably to the silly Text-in polls, a discussion on the dangers of video-games, the violence in video games, calls to parliament and so on and so on. The actual event soon becomes lost in the political agendas of reactionary politicians and spokespeople for quasi-religious groups. Someone did something for too long and died. That’s it, in a nutshell.
People die jogging every day and nothing is said. No one is out to sue Nike – at least not for making running shoes, that is. iPods have been responsible for a massive rise in personal muggings and theft. Can Apple be sued for creating a product that’s too desirable? Medicine and tablets come with warnings telling people not to take too much, yet people do and die every day. I don’t see that on the news. I don’t hear about the lawsuits on News At Ten. I’m not making direct comparisons here just pointing out some of the absurdities.
Yet, when someone dies while playing a game - there are global calls for stricter rules, censorship, punitive damages, bans. In the noise and fury surrounding these stories, people seem to have lost any kind of perspective on the issue. The media is resolutely sensationalist when it comes to games-related stories. They are not echoing the fears of parents, they are creating them.
Games are fun. Otherwise they wouldn’t be the global billion-pound industry that they are. Like anything else, too much of anything can be bad. Unless, it’s fresh air or spinach, or something. Games-bashing is now a national sport but it is based on misinformation and hysteria, not fact. We have been here before though. Remember movie violence and how the children were being turned into axe-wielding lunatics. This, in the end, did not turn into the national epidemic it was made out to be. How surprising. Now you rarely hear anything on the news about movie violence because, well, they have found games instead. This, like that, will pass. In the meantime, eat your greens, play games for no more than 18 hours straight and always be kind to old people.
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errr wintry its spelled Censors.....
Yes blaming games for every thing that goes wrong is a habit these days , people always must find something to blame for their own mistakes and ignorance , whether it be death metal , rock , rap , socialistic movements etc.
Another problem is that whenever a death is linked in any way to the killer bieng a gamer they paint a bulls eye around games , statistics may show that probably all juvenile killers in the US would have played a violent game at one point or another,
but statistics also show that during the summer , Crime rates go up along with ice cream sales , does it mean that ice cream causes crime? No , its just too damned cold to commit some crimes in the winter , and too damned cold for people to want ice cream !
Similar thinking applies here too , violent people are attracted to violent games , violent games do not produce violent people , it may desensatize them to violence and give them ideas, but its not the game's fault that children are too stupid or messed up to not implement them .
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IS NOT MC GAMES!!!!
is the sdmc children PARENTS!
wamit man ..then i dont understand why a 13-18 year old has no COMMON SENSE that is jus a game ...bah
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good point...I remember when I was 8 years old my stupid step aunt used to frown on me for playing Mortal kombat 2. She was being a hypocrite and she said crap like: "oh it's so bloody, oh my god why play such things.?"
She was F***ing ridiculous, just like the stupid censors. People should be able to play what ever games the choose. Parents should educate children and indeptly show them the differnce between fact and fiction....who the hell is going to run down the street with a BFG(Quake) and frag a Combine (Half Life 2)....
...exactly no one!
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lol
but flip, kids watch wrestling and practice the stunts.
The media has an effect on our minds. That is without question.
All parents, despite their best efforts, won't be able to save their children from that negative influence.
That is the very reason the ESRB rating exists. As well as the movie rating system.
That is the work of adults (many of them parents) trying their best to prevent the young ones from seeing such extreme violence and other negative acts (sex and otherwise)
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uhh about that bfg...
BFG TIME!!!
:D woot!!
baego bes we open a school to educate children that if its on tv best not try at home
and our theory to make it work
LET THEM EXPERIENCE IT FIRST HAND mwahahahaha
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actually....technically and scientifically speaking....sex is not a negative act. ^_^
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man sex is overrated :(
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man sex is overrated :(
:huh:
what did he just post?
O_o
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man sex is overrated :angry:
are u insane!!!!!!!!
maybe ur not doing it right??????!!!!
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sex is overrated....but thas besides the point i think it has to do with the general culture of the places where they find these crimes taking place...i mean, in trinidad, how many kids u see go into a net cafe to pyong some heavy SoF everyday yet we don't have violent muthaf****rs running round killing each other. It has to do with the common sense level of these people... not to be racist or anything but white ppl stupid...
Thas my 2 cents
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sex is overated when uve had to much meh ..>.>
and plus ppl jus do it without emotion again ,..man sex is supposed btween lovers etc
now guy just $@#$ wateva walks..
IT HAS BECOME overated
eheheheheh
i could imagine 2 lil boys go in sip and pong sof
john" stfu noob i own u"
harry"heheheheh"
later that day ..
lets apply tactics from sof to klill these bullies
express next day
commando youngns tactically molest bullies
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Just card anyone that tries to buy a M rated game.
That way if they get one, it's the parents fault, not that it isn't already. But the blame can't be shifted then.
Perfect solution. Only people I can see having a problem with it are kids.
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dood um i dunno if you've checked our papers... but yes we do have violent mothafcukers running around killing each other with ak74s and m4s... and sniper rifles
the only dam ting we missing is d barn
but on another note the censors are getting out of hand
but i do see the need for it to a POINT...
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hhahahha @ only thing missing is the barn.