Author Topic: Philosophical45's PC (Hardware and Benching) (Read 30009 times)

Philosophical45 · « **on:** May 01, 2008, 07:58:10 PM »

Alright, since i just got my 8800gt, i say it's time for some tinkering and benchmarks:

System Specs:

Motherboard: MSI K9N PLATINUM nForce 570 Chipset
CPU: AMD Athlon 4400+ x2 @ 2.3ghz (2.7ghz OC)
RAM: 2 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 @ 800mhz (944mhz OC)
GPU: EVGA 8800GT SUPERCLOCKED EDITION @ 700/1700/2000

disappoiting i must say, my first score i fought to get, after many reboots, many fsb and multiplier adjustments, i finally found a setting that 3dmark06 didn't crash on, only to see that it gave me a score sub par to W1ntry.. interesting i must say, but after i observed the pic, i see my ht link speed was at 400, suggesting that my multiplier was set at two, GOD knows how dat set at two oui.. but after fixing that, 3dmark crashed again right after the cpu tests.. sigh.. many attempts were made, but only annoying crashes.. i finally got tired and did a virtual mark test instead, got 9600 which is not bad, but less than what i was aiming for..

the max oc i got on the cpu tho was 2.8ghz (posting and booting into windows), with just a increase in voltage to 1.4v.. after tryin to run a benchmark at this oc, i noticed significant slow down in the 3dmark tests, shocking i must say, i'm at a lost there..

so to all you benchmarking experts in gatt, i'm not sure what caused that major slow down, and i'm willing to accept any advice y'all have to share.. right about now, my little 4400+ handles the games very well, but at benchmarking, it is the ant in the elephant cage..

Carigamers · « **on:** May 01, 2008, 07:58:10 PM »

Arcmanov · « **Reply #1 on:** May 01, 2008, 08:19:43 PM »

Why use an 11x multiplier? Was it not OK to use 10x ?

I think you may also have to consider that CPU temperature could also be a limiting
factor here. Remember those Athlons put out a bit more heat than similarly clocked
Intel CPUs, and when you increase your CPU voltage, heat output increases as well.

Also, check your 'HT Link' parameter in the BIOS. For OC'ing purposes, you may have to set it
to 4x or even 3x to squeeze out a little higher fsb. If your RAM can take it, try upping the
voltage (very carefully) and see how it goes.

It could just be that you have a CPU that may not handle OC'ing as well as some others of the same batch.
The old adage always applies in OC'ing: 'your mileage may vary'.

Its interesting that your score is lesser than W1ntry...some analysis is required here.
AM2 socket CPUs 'should' have a significant OC'ing advantage over socket 939 CPUs, so I am as baffled as you.

As I always say...baby steps.

Philosophical45 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 01, 2008, 08:42:51 PM »

hmm ok well i'll play around with the 10x multiplier then. and yes i'm a bit baffled at the fact that my am2 is giving a lesser score than a 939 system with the same chip, but it's only day one, so i can't just end it there.. will try one more time tonight and see.

W1nTry · « **Reply #3 on:** May 01, 2008, 09:43:31 PM »

Well I must say that the AM2 should be a better OCer and it SHOULD score higher in the CPU test as it has significantly higher memory performance. However in terms of FPU and ALU performance there is little to NO difference in the 939 and AM2. The AM2 is just a 939 with support from DDR2. As Arc said check the HT multiplier keep in mind for the AMD platform the HT should run at 1GHz. Thus, for 250MHz memory you will have to set the HT mult at 4x once you go higher you take it down to 3, to stay as close as you can to 1GHz. You can in some instance surpass 1GHz but generall NOT by much. The 'FSB' multiplier on the other hand will be at least 10 maybe even 11. As arc said upping the voltage increase the heat output so it MIGHT be a factor.

That being said I noticed that even with relatively good temps I cannot surpass 2.5GHz stably. So temp may also NOT be the factor at least in MY case. DDR1 only has so much OC potential and i'm already at 25%. DDR2 should have some more headway. As you said it's day 1. Lastly keep in mind my Vid card is factory OCed to 660Mhz. I noticed that even with a HIGHER OC say 690-700 I saw LITTLE OR NO PERFORMANCE INCREASE, which leads me to believe its a CPU limitation at least on my end. Since FPU and ALU performance is similar between 939 and AM2 it could be that... just things to consider.

Spazosaurus · « **Reply #4 on:** May 01, 2008, 09:56:01 PM »

AMD dual core patch for XP/Dual core optomiser.

Carigamers · « **Reply #4 on:** May 01, 2008, 09:56:01 PM »

Philosophical45 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 02, 2008, 04:24:40 PM »

tried some more, but 3dmark keeps crashing, i'm beginning to think it's the version i have, i'm gonna download 3dmark06 basic and try again, but take a look at this, at 2.8ghz OC, i got 10100 virtual mark points, i'm slightly happy, lol... but it aint enough..

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #6 on:** May 02, 2008, 06:31:37 PM »

10,100 sounds good.

you patched up your 3dmark right?? With the february patch

Philosophical45 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 02, 2008, 06:50:10 PM »

well i'm downloading the 3dmark06 basic edition first, i had the february patch installed, but i didn't bench after i installed it, starting over a fresh later tonight, hopefully i should get a proper score, but right about now, i feeling to sweat some game..lol

Philosophical45 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 04, 2008, 03:16:11 PM »

CHP: NFORCE 570 ULTRA (MSI K9N PLATINUM)
CPU: AMD Atlhon X2 4400+ @ 2.7ghz
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 2 X 1GB DDR2 @ 944 MHZ
GPU: EVGA e-GeForce 8800gt Superclocked Edition @ 700/1700/2000

3dmark06: 9458

Virtual Mark Online Testing 10100 points (CPU @ 2.8GHZ, RAM @ 1000MHZ, GPU: 700/1700/2000) :

i now rest at this score.. for the top ten i may not dwell in, but the rankings i shall surely reside.. until some intel buying mofo come and rub me out..

i do realize the cpu limitation of the amd 4400+ x2. 10000 3dmarks with this chip aint possible unless i reach at least 2.8-3.0ghz and with the instability at those speeds, i can't get my scores higher.. so until something "new" comes into play, i shall remain content with my score and bow down to the intel cpus.

Crixx_Creww · « **Reply #9 on:** May 04, 2008, 05:23:11 PM »

it hurt meh heart to see dat amd blemish on an otherwise intel worthy rig

*sigh*

Arcmanov · « **Reply #10 on:** May 04, 2008, 05:29:41 PM »

lol @ 'amd blemish'....

Crixx could be such a clown sometimes.

*laughs some more*

Spazosaurus · « **Reply #11 on:** May 04, 2008, 05:46:13 PM »

Hold the phone...there's a February patch for 3dmark 06?

Philosophical45 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 04, 2008, 06:07:54 PM »

yup.. there is.. just adds support for newer hardware and it starts faster.... nothing major

TriniXaeno · « **Reply #13 on:** May 04, 2008, 07:01:34 PM »

muhahaha, I knew something the captain didn't!

* NoobGoneWild reclaims the ultra tech geek crown

Philosophical45 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 09, 2008, 11:33:02 PM »

Since i replaced the cpu, ran a bench, never posted it, i guess since this was the trend of the evening, i'll just post it, only the vcard was oc'd. The cpu ran too hot, things changed since then though.

May update score during the week, i have something coming in.

Motherboard: MSI K9N PLATINUM nForce 570 Chipset
CPU: AMD Athlon 6000+ x2 @ 3ghz Stock
RAM: 2 x 2GB OCZ DDR2 @ 800mhz Stock
GPU: EVGA 8800GT SUPERCLOCKED EDITION @ 700/1700/2000

Arcmanov · « **Reply #15 on:** November 10, 2008, 12:03:50 AM »

Doh study it, that something will improve the score quite a bit.

Philosophical45 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 10, 2008, 10:19:38 PM »

Motherboard: MSI K9N PLATINUM nForce 570 Chipset
CPU: AMD Athlon 6000+ x2 @ 3.3ghz
RAM: 2 x 2GB OCZ DDR2 @ 800mhz Stock
GPU: EVGA 8800GT SUPERCLOCKED EDITION @ 700/1700/2000

just playing with the new cooler and this cpu. stock voltage i got up to 3.3ghz and actually got to run 3dmark06 completely, no hiccups, not sure if it's fully stable, but what the heck. i got an ok score.

Philosophical45 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 21, 2008, 05:37:39 AM »

-UPDATE-

i had this new card for a week, but my old power supply was crapping out whenever i tried to start any intense 3d game. Will post benches later on.
Specs in sig.

Philosophical45 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 23, 2008, 02:06:29 PM »

finally got time to run a benchmark, installed vista 64bit friday night, and well i tell you, one lil mc problem had me troubleshooting since mc 3a.m this morning, but only because i couldn't sleep... it seems to be fixed now, so to celebrate, let's run vantage..

my cpu score is ridiculously high though.. seems that the nvidia physx module really helps

Arcmanov · « **Reply #19 on:** November 23, 2008, 02:39:15 PM »

Cheating sons of bitches...

Carigamers · « **Reply #19 on:** November 23, 2008, 02:39:15 PM »

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