Suggestions for new laptop for CAD/gaming

[TriniPCGamer]

Hi guys coming to u'll for help again. i hav jus been accepted into university to do architecture an i need a laptop that can handle CAD work and gaming. Cad work basicly include drawing and rendering. from my research, i hav found one laptop that fits the bill.

Toshiba Satellite® : X205 : X205-SLI5
http://explore.toshiba.com/laptops/satellite/X205/X205-SLi5

specs im lookin for are:
must hav a 17" or bigger screen (cad users will kno a small screen ain't gonna cut it)
must be around $12,000TT
i like the fingerprint reader but its not a must
must hav wifi
must be dual or quad core
must hav atlease 2GB of ram
an it must hav a dedicated graphics card (two would b nice)

would like any suggestions. oh i need suggestions quick, need 2 buy soon.
thanks in advance for all u'll help guys  

[Crixx_Creww]

id say wait for our suggestions

thats alot of money for that toshiba and i wouldnt say its the best

for that kinda kache it should be a quaddy

[TriniPCGamer]

Ok Crixx_Creww i'll wait. if i could get a quad dat would b great but i havn't seen any.
This was another option i found
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220309

what u'll tink?

[Crixx_Creww]

you need to understand something about the laptop market

its a big huge rip off market

there is no such thing as price performance in the laptop market

so avoid the hype and the "ultra portable/uber stylish" rigs that cost an arm and a leg

look for quality parts and good waranties.

i just realised how expensive "high end" laptops have now become

right now iam configuring a dell, not an xps but an inspiron, that i think will meet your needs well and cost much less than its xps breathren


wow i must admit that asus lappy is most impressive.
and probably a better buy than the toshiba or an xps or an alienware alx system


ok that asus looks great, also lower down on the page for the asus is another asus that is also great

go to dell and configure an inspiron 1720 .
iam quite surprised at how good that laptop can be configured

check out acer as well

new egg has some good options, look around

yu dont need to go all the way up to 2k us

aim lower and take shipping into consideration

[TriniPCGamer]

tanks for the advise. now goin to check out d dell.

[TriniPCGamer]

i checked out the dell but it came up 2 $2500. dats way more than the asus and the asus hav better specs.

Specs i chose:
SYSTEM: COLOR Jet Black edit
PROCESSOR: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T9300 (2.5GHz/800Mhz FSB/6MB cache) edit
OPERATING SYSTEM: Genuine Windows Vista® Ultimate Edition edit
LCD PANEL: High Resolution, glossy widescreen 17.0 inch display (1920 x 1200) edit
MEMORY: 3GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz edit
HARD DRIVE: Dual: 500GB (2x 250) 5400RPM Hard Drive edit
OPTICAL DRIVE: CD / DVD writer (DVD+/-RW Drive) edit
VIDEO CARD: 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT edit
WIRELESS NETWORKING CARD: Intel® 3945 802.11a/g Mini-card edit
SOUND OPTIONS: Integrated Sound Blaster® Audigy™HD Software Edition edit
CAMERA: Integrated 2.0 Megapixel Webcam

PRIMARY BATTERY: 85Whr Lithium Ion Battery (9 cell) edit
POWER OPTIONS: 90 Watt Spare AC Adaptor edit
PRODUCTIVITY: Microsoft® Office Small Business 2007-includes Publisher + Outlook2007 edit
ANTI-VIRUS & SECURITY: No Security Subscription edit
ADOBE SOFTWARE: Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1

SUPPORT SERVICES: LA 2 Year O/S (Unisys)

Network card and Modem Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem 
Labels Windows Vista™ Premium 
Processor Branding Intel Centrino Core Duo Processor 
DOMS Camera Mod Basic Black Matte LCD back color w Camera 
Extended Service International Processing

Wats specs did u choose wen u did it?

[Fkacn_tt]

That is one hell of a rip off $2500 laptop m8, you could reduce the price a little by going to vista home premium instead of vista ultimate. about $150 savings there.

Check out HP this one can bge customized to the same specs like you have above but comes with a 512mb 8800m gt
http://www.shopping.hp.com/series/category/notebooks/HDX_series/3/computer_store?jumpid=in_r329_personalization/browse1/home_SDP

[TriniPCGamer]

Tanks Slaming, jus checked out the hp. its good but the price comes up to $2500 when i try to get to the specs of the asus, which is too much. so far the asus seems to b the best bet. Keep those suggestions coming as quickly as posibble, need 2 purchase soon. Tanks. Oh an to Crixx_Creww, from what i hav seen, quads start at $3000+ an dat way out of my price range. wish i could get it tho. dat would be sweet. 

[Crixx_Creww]

remember what i said about laptops being an ultra scam? there is no such thing as price performance.

and did you choose the inspiron 1720 with the 1 year warranty? that starts at 1100 i believe and with  all the specs it came up to 1750 or something like that

why in the hell would yu choose vista ultimate?....

[TriniPCGamer]

lol@why in the hell would yu choose vista ultimate?.... was idle i guess. lol. i did it over an took the 1 year on d warranty. it cam up 2 $1950. i am using the asus as my benchmark, spec wise, an it seem as if all d systems i customise to com up to the same level as the asus cost more. the asus is a monster for the price. 500gb hard drive an 4gb of ram. an with a price of $1,749.99US (11077.45TT). an it has good reviews so Crixx_Creww let me kno if the asus is a good buy? oh an if u customise a system plz send d parts list u used plz so i could c. tanks.

[TriniPCGamer]

Oh these were the parts i used for the dell to get the $1950
and sry for the jumble mess of text below. i jus cut an paste.

SYSTEM COLOR Jet Black edit
PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T9300 (2.5GHz/800Mhz FSB/6MB cache) edit
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1 edit
DISPLAY High Resolution, glossy widescreen 17.0 inch display (1920 x 1200) edit
VIDEO CARD 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT edit
MEMORY 4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz edit
HARD DRIVE Size: 320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM) edit
OPTICAL DRIVE CD / DVD writer (DVD+/-RW Drive) edit
WIRELESS NETWORK CARDS Dell Wireless 1395 802.11g Mini Card edit
BLUETOOTH AND WIRELESS USB Built-in Bluetooth capability (2.0 EDR) edit
INTEGRATED WEBCAM Integrated 2.0 Megapixel Webcam edit
BATTERY OPTIONS 85Whr Lithium Ion Battery (9 cell) edit
SOUND OPTIONS High Definition Audio 2.0 edit
My Software & Accessories
ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE Norton Internet Security 2008, 15-Month edit
OFFICE SOFTWARE Microsoft® Office Small Business 2007-includes Publisher + Outlook2007 edit
COLOR COORDINATED BAGS  Belkin Jet/Cabernet 17" Messenger Case edit
COLOR COORDINATED MICE  Logitech V220 Wireless Mouse - Jet Black edit
TV TUNER & REMOTE CONTROL Dell Travel Remote Control, IR edit
My Service
WARRANTY AND SERVICE 1Yr In-Home Service, Parts + Labor,24x7 Phone Support edit
DATASAFE ONLINE BACKUP Included 3 GB DataSafe Online Backup for 1Yr edit
DIAL-UP INTERNET ACCESS No ISP requested edit
ALSO INCLUDED WITH YOUR SYSTEM
Network Card Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem 
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1 
Labels Windows Vista™ Premium 
Processor Branding Intel® Core™2 Duo Label 
DOMS Camera Mod Basic Black Matte LCD back color w Camera 
PHOTO AND MUSIC SOFTWARE No Entertainment software pre-installed

[Fkacn_tt]

nice setup, but i wish the 8800M gt become a standard for laptops $1500 and over, cause really a 8600 GT barely cutting it these days.

[Spazosaurus]

Well, the 8600 is definitely not the best but with low enough settings it will play any game comfortably. After all, you can't expect the sun, moon and stars from a sub us $2000 notebook.

[TriniPCGamer]

lol at captain. well it seems i hav 2 go with the toshiba with the 2 8600. family goin 2 florida for a couple days so im restricted to buyin from florida. lucky there is a circuit city in florida thats has the toshiba so im goin with that. mite b less raw power but its saving me money not having to ship it so its cool.

[Crixx_Creww]

omg
iam sure yu can get it shipped to florida or some ish
DONT BUY PCS FROM CRAP PLACES LIKE CIRCUIT CITY WTF!!!

[TriniPCGamer]

yea i could get it shipped from another place but he only goin 4 2 days so it would b difficult 2 make sure it arrives at the hotel on that date so dat y i went circuit city. he could jus walk in the store an buy it. an like i said it saves me shipping. i would hav gone tigerdirect but they cost $200 more.

[TriniPCGamer]

Hey guys, well my new laptop was delivered last nite. its a monster. I went Asus.
Check the link.
http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/asus-m70sa-b1/4507-3121_7-33060323.html

I ordered from a site called www.lagoom.com i have to give them props for customer service. ordering was smooth an easy an it only took a week an a half from the date of the wire transfer to the date of delivery.

Its a sweet piece of machine an its pretty light 2. Everything works rock solid. No issues. Havn't realy don any gaming since i was installing my cad software last nite. but i'll let u'll kno. i totally recommend this to anyone that has the cash.
 

[woodyear99]

Hmm I still looking around at laptops that can run some games when I am bored...... what you think of this MSI on amazon? Don't want to spend more than $800 US and would just prefer to order something quickly and easily off Amazon hehe.....

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GX630-028US-15-4-Inch-Dual-Core-Processor/dp/B001L5U0RG/ref=pd_ts_pc_19?ie=UTF8&s=pc

*edit* lol answered meh own question saw a review here....  http://techreport.com/articles.x/16211

[Crixx_Creww]

ppfffttt @ anything less than c2d

really
no!!
check out the 18 inch acer

[woodyear99]

The $800 USD price tag is pretty attractive, does MSI make good quality gaming laptops?