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Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« on: October 31, 2004, 12:42:51 AM »
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Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2004, 02:11:38 AM »
i don't think so....blame the parents...



                     

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2004, 07:53:22 AM »
^^exactly
if children were properly raised then there would be no problems.                    

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2004, 08:29:40 AM »
of course not....
but it may have some impact/influence on an individual

and its not always the parent(s') fault. however, more often than not it is.                    
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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2004, 08:58:55 AM »
I'll say yes. games can influence people, and if you continously playing violent games, you may end up trying to do what the game characters have done.

i've seen it happen with my own eyes so is talk from experience iymc.                    

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2004, 08:58:55 AM »

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2004, 10:02:24 AM »
yes, I too have scene it with my own eyes.

watch too much dragon ball z and you'll walk around throwin kamehamehas and trying to blow up buildings.

listen too much violent music and you'll feel to smash stuff.

I'll break you down!!! Punk!!! Now you know not to %#@* with me!!! I'll break you down!!! (big amv, picolo vs #17)

violent games reaches in you and touches that part of the male psych that wants to kick ass and take names. The aggresiveness,  and calls it out.

Just like watching a good kick up with Jet Li and friends. Men pouring out that cinema doing jump kick and cart wheel when they reach home.

Watch too much naruto and yuh start doing hand seals and practicin chidori.

Humans react to stimuli around them. That is how our brains learn.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2004, 10:10:13 AM »
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i don't think so....blame the parents...
It's elimentary my dear bastard
If they used to get lix and never had the game home to take over their minds and then have people blame that then a problem arises
the steps are as follows
1.)You get the game
2.)you enjoy it
3.)So So So TAKE OFF THAT GAME!!!
4.)the parent is ignored
5.)the child continues his/her own way
6.)parent sends the child to a tourney with such game
7.)someone interferes with his/her progress he stabs the person
8.)parent can say nuttin other than 'he was such a nice boy'


IF YOU DID DISCIPLINE HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN THE BOUNDARIES FOR SELF CONTROL
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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2004, 10:28:05 AM »
Horse d game and dem will make your more aggresive but it is within d parenting department where you learn wether to act on it or not. If i listen to lil jon i will not be fraid to slap a man cross his face cuz i 'crunk'. And if i now take in a good rounds of street fighter and a man cross my nerve is a shoryu ken in his eye. BUT i know not to act on agression cuz of my fada who would put me in my place                    


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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2004, 11:44:10 AM »
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Just like watching a good kick up with Jet Li and friends. Men pouring out that cinema doing jump kick and cart wheel when they reach home.

Watch too much naruto and yuh start doing hand seals and practicin chidori.

Humans react to stimuli around them. That is how our brains learn.

Violence iwmc!


i does be doing handseals at home :(
i does be trying dem jet li moves at home too :(
doh talk about when matrix come out, i was trying to run along de wall an thing :(

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2004, 12:45:58 PM »
well scientific evidence has shown that playing a violent game even for a short while does show marked increases in agression and violent behaviour, continuous sweatage does cause irreversible rises in agressive behaviour, but short interaction maybe once a week will have negligible effects                    


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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2004, 01:04:46 PM »
I remember a little book called lord of the flies

its shows the good nad evils of the world shown by children stuck on a deserted island

That was a powerful book by Golding, people should read it                    



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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2004, 02:19:47 PM »
I say to some extent games do add to the violence seen in children but I also agree greatly with AngryBastard that parents are in a large way to blame. Its a parents responsibility to know what their children are doing and what games they may be playing, there is a game rating for a reason.                    

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2004, 03:56:06 PM »
sometimes i does try to mold chakra and perform transmutations by clapping...but that is nut the point is violent games....

Basically it depends on the person him/her self...
i listen to violent music every day!!! and i am nut violent....:rolleyes:
i play violent games and i doh nut try to do those things...
mostly is americans that see stuff in movies and try to do them....like 2fast 2 furious.... somebody in america try to drive underneath a truck :huh:

So in my opinion it depends on the mentality of the person and how competent they are...                    

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2004, 07:25:36 PM »
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Watch too much naruto and yuh start doing hand seals and practicin chidori.

 
LOL aye!! i do my seals and practice my chidoris for the betterment of ninjakind, not cause iam violent!
                     

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2004, 07:45:46 PM »
No .....
  Does watching lassie make you a dog ?

   Games can DESENSITIZE people and make violence less shocking and more acceptable, but it does not make violent people . A few isolated incidents involving an xbox, or grand theft do not mean that violent games make violent people . Violent people get violent ideas from violent games.
                     
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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2004, 08:57:35 AM »
i will have to agree with Trini here, remember we are all individuals here and there are a lot of factors involved in forming a persons mentalityand personality, one thing a lot people seem to be forgetting is the strength of the person's sense of self and their own sense of their individuality has a LARGE part to play as well. learn about yourself and learn to control yourself. SELF CONTROL                    

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2004, 10:00:17 AM »
i agree with DeadEyes...our environment & factors within & around it determine who we r, games r 1 aspect, so if u let a bloody game cause u 2 kill someone then ur overall environment plus d game triggered it not jus 1 thing did that many things...

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2004, 10:45:58 AM »
I would say not necessarily. It's as simple as this. Parents have to monitor what their children do. In all types of media, movies to video games, especially at early ages where they are more impressionable. You wouldn’t let your kids watch porn would you? So why let them play a game where the theme is to kill hookers and Haitians? (keep in mind I am no fan of Haitians.) People pick syuff up from the media no matter what age they are.

People pick stuff up from the media, no matter the age. My cousin (18yrs) played Rainbow Six 3 on Xbox for an average of 10 hours a day. Now he thinks he’s some kinda of tactical espionage expert, always talking bout the caliber of a dessert eagle of how many meters a 60. sniper shot could go a second. So people are influenced by what they watch and especially by what they play. While you simply watch a movie, games are interactive, its supposed to simulate reality at some level. So it would have an influence on the kids.

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2004, 11:32:42 AM »
lol @ lassie


very very very very good point trini (lol i cah believe i jus say dat lol)


also, people like to ask if violent media ,both games and tv, make yu violent but then yu can ask teh opposite.

Does watching positive media and positive games, make yu a good positive person?

LOL i would say not

If you have good values and morals and a good sense of reality instilled in you, then watching this stuff wont turn yu bad.

Cause yu know what is good and what is bad and how yu should act.

But if your already a psychotic violent bastard, then anything could trip you off and not just the media.

Like say, i could say..... tstt makes me violent.
So should we ban tstt?....                    

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2004, 07:52:57 PM »
hoss? what kinda of psychedelic trip alyuh on??

By reading this thread you would think no one is responsible for their actions. There is always SOMETHING else that can be blamed.

Nonsense.

There are men who grow up in violent areas, with perfect excuse to come out criminals, and yet they grow into responsible young men with good jobs and families with strong moral values.

Yet there are men who grow up in proper households, with good moral upbringing that turn into killers and rapists.

Priests who molest little boys. They exposed to the good book for years upon years, yet still stray.

The point is, what is ultimately responsible for a man doing wrong is anyones guess. Insanity, MTV, the Devil, Bad Parenting, Anime, Video Games, whatever helps you sleep at night.

The question asked by this thread, "Does the Playing of violent video games cause a person to be more agressive?"

The answer, in my opinion, is Yes. There will be exceptions, but from the people in my life (myself included) whom I have seen exposed to violent video games clearly demonstrated increased aggressive behaviour. Mimicing the activities seen on the screen.

Cousin's, friends, brother and child.

It is the same for any strong violent media. Watching Gladiator, kung fu movies, anime, etc... has made them act more aggressive.

Likewise, I haven't seen them get up and start to act a fool after watching sesame street or fraggle rock.

ps....lol real hard @ crixx doing hand seals for the benefit of ninjadom.

                     

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Re: Are Games really to blame? (Violence, death, neglect...)
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2004, 07:52:57 PM »

 


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